Questions about LAPF and Blockhead support

[ljacquard]

Basically my question is to know if LAPF is (or will be) able to support several types of custom bodies for different races.

 

My planned setup is to fully take advantage of <Blockhead>, use HGEC or TGND for the females of some races and ROBERT for the females of some other races. Mix and match different animations also. Later, I shall look into using several different bodies/animation sets for males of different races (ROBERT, BREEEZE, etc.).

 

The idea is to make my orcs bulkier, my Nords more muscular, my high elves high tall but puny, my wood elves smaller but cuter sneakier, etc.

 

1/ Is this currently possible ? Where can I define the particulars of each race once LAPF kicks in, so that their lower body matches their upper body ?

 

2/ Is it possible to have different voices for each race ?

 

3/ Finally, is it possible to have only a limited number of females being futa (say 5%), and the rest use female/dildo animations ?

 

Thank you.

[Gaebrial]

1. Take a look at the latest version of SetBody, which uses Blockhead. It has an addon, LoversJoystick, which handles the particulars of each race when sex starts. Put simply, it has a version of each lower body with a futa penis attached, and it swaps that body in when sex starts, then swaps it back to the normal lower body when sex finishes.

 

2. It is possible to have different voices for each race, you just have to associate the voice to the race. This is vanilla Oblivion. If you meant to ask if it is possible to have different voices for each character, I don't think it's possible to prevent the default race voice from cropping up. Companions that have unique voices tend to use unique non-playable races, as if a race is non-playable, NPCs of that race won't get a default voice.

 

3. Again, I suggest looking at SetBody and LoversJoystick. You would need to have two lower body variants for each body, though. One with a futa penis, and one with a dildo.

[ljacquard]

1. Take a look at the latest version of SetBody, which uses Blockhead. It has an addon, LoversJoystick, which handles the particulars of each race when sex starts. Put simply, it has a version of each lower body with a futa penis attached, and it swaps that body in when sex starts, then swaps it back to the normal lower body when sex finishes.

 

2. It is possible to have different voices for each race, you just have to associate the voice to the race. This is vanilla Oblivion. If you meant to ask if it is possible to have different voices for each character, I don't think it's possible to prevent the default race voice from cropping up. Companions that have unique voices tend to use unique non-playable races, as if a race is non-playable, NPCs of that race won't get a default voice.

 

3. Again, I suggest looking at SetBody and LoversJoystick. You would need to have two lower body variants for each body, though. One with a futa penis, and one with a dildo.

 

1/ I will do that. I actually had it downloaded, but not yet installed for some reason.

 

2/ Yes, that's what I meant : setting (once and for all) different "Lovers" voices for each race, like I can pick a voiceset for my PC. Orsimer/Orc females would always use voiceset 5 or something, etc. If it's possible, I haven't figured out how (through the LAPF in game interface anyway).

 

I can understand LAPF not supporting custom races, and handle that on my own.

 

3/ some more specifics would be awesome (as to where to look, and input the parameters), but yes, I will have a closer look at <LoversJoystick>.

 

Thank you, Gaebrial.

[gregathit]

On item 3, I'm not sure that you can pull that off with the current versions of the LAPF\Setbody\Joystick.  I'm not aware of any mechanism that would randomly specify a percentage of females to have a dick or a dildo.  Obviously a script to do just that could be made, but I wouldn't know the first thing about how to go about it.  Scripting is not my bag.  

[fejeena]

You can play LAPF with custom races.

LAPF has 5 "Default" female and 6 male lowerbodies but you can use 9 male/female. You must add your own lower bodies in the meshes\clothes\as\  Folders 6 to 9 ( 6 to 9 for females and 7 to 9 for males . Therefore, these folders are  free ! )

 

So you can play a cutom race with hooves or claws with LAPF even without bolckhead/LoversJoystick.

 

But if you want custom NPC races with hooves or claws or different bodies for races then you need blockhead\LoversJoystick ( Or you can do it in game with the LAPF target Setting spell and change every NPC that should use a different Body. Much work if a whole race should have a own Body   )

 

 

[Vaelorian]

On item 3, I'm not sure that you can pull that off with the current versions of the LAPF\Setbody\Joystick.  I'm not aware of any mechanism that would randomly specify a percentage of females to have a dick or a dildo.  Obviously a script to do just that could be made, but I wouldn't know the first thing about how to go about it.  Scripting is not my bag.  

 

Create two tokens; one for futa, one for not.

When an act starts, check for the token; if there - add the body corresponding to it. If not - use whatever function you like to roll the dice, and add the appropriate token (along with the corresponding body) to the actor.

 

When an act starts next time, the actor already has a token in her inventory, thus there will be consistency.

 

This, however, does not ensure consistency once an actor respawns (as the token will be gone from their inventory).

[movomo]

3/ Finally, is it possible to have only a limited number of females being futa (say 5%), and the rest use female/dildo animations ?

You kind of can using setbody and joystick, but I'm afraid it may not exactly be the way you wanted.

 

1. replace *most* of the lowerbody meshes with traling _AP suffix in their file name (which come with joystick) with strap-on, instead of flesh dick.

but leave *some* of them alone.

 

2. from there tweak your autosetbody.ini file. register fleshy dicks as futa body source - you'll have to modify normal (non _AP) lowerbody meshes as well if they aren't already a futa. (a few lowerbodies in setbody are already futa.)

 

3. there is a setting for the futanari chance in the autosetbody.ini. zero by default.

[ljacquard]

That would actually more than satisfy me, Movomo. You have my sincere thanks, and all the talented people here as well, generous with sharing their creations and knowledge about modding.

Ideally, I would like my game to remain as "vanilla" as possible, with no custom races, despite 200+ or so mods. My little moonshadow elf PC customized up to the ear, clit and nipples appears as a 100% Bosmer pure-blood to the game, thanks to <Blockhead>. The only thing that still messes with the peace of my mind are the stock female voicesets. I absolutely despise them, so maybe I will have to create a custom race just to shut them down for good.

About the futanari (or other custom) bodies and LAPF (question 1/ and question 3/), I think Lovers joystick (and the advice in this thread) will allow me to find a good compromise. I don't want every female in game to be futanari, the "novelty" wears off quickly, but in small numbers, coming in a "surprise" package, they definitely have an appeal. More or less 5% seems about right to me. However, used in conjunction with some Lovers mods, like <Daedra seed>, I could also see 100% of the females of a race (Dremora) to be futa. That would add to the challenge wrestling with, err fighting them. Vaelorian's idea about a token also would work, but that would force me to look into scripting, which I haven't done yet. I intend to do this however, as I would like to create dynamic levelled lists (on the same principle that Maskar seems to use) to "randomly" distribute items across my game, namely clothes. This should save me countless ESP slots, and make the whole business of completing my wardrobe with pretty clothes much more rewarding. It looks like a monumental task (for me), but after modding all these years, and starting to feel pretty comfortable at it, there is nothing that will stop me!

About question 2/, I wonder if <autosetbody> could be extended to set the "Lovers voiceset" on the NPC at the same time that it sets a lower body. Again, a scripting question that needs investigating on my side. Hopefully, it is possible to give every NPC of race a specific "Lovers voice", that they also would keep at reload. My Orsimer/Orc ladies should have that Domme' intonation to them while shagging procreating for the glory of Malacath, while my Breton or Altmer ladies could sound much more frivolous civilized. Doing this NPC per NPC seems too much work, leaving it to the random number generator unsatisfying to me.

Next, I will probably look into adding Emma's children as replacement of MBP/x117 children to Tamago/Hiyoko. As much as I can find some of their races attractive, the whole thing is just not worth the trouble setting up to me, debugging, reworking into a BSA, and then keeping it up to date. I like to know and control what goes where, when and why. Plus, they clash way too much with Nuska's face styles, which in my opinion are the best since Morrowind, Skyrim, sliced bread and LAPF of course. I will probably be back at that time with more questions on how that could be achieved.

Finally, let it be said that to this day I am still amazed of the quality of the LL offerings : <LAPF> + animations, creature extension, tamago/hiyoko extensions, break armor extensions, GSB compendium (which has conformulated hair, yay, contrary to 50% of the hair I've downloaded elsewhere), to name only a few. There is so much quality in there, attention to details, so much that could wrong because of it (but does not!), all the while still being updated, that I think that Bethesda would do well to look into hiring some of you for their future games. Ooh, and shadeMe, Maskar and some other very crafty peeps over at the Beth forums. Bugs do happen (like the summoned Lovers creatures' responsibility stat, which probably should be 0, so that they don't report me to guards), but barely noticeable or easily fixed on the user's side. I certainly wouldn't mind buying those games.

Please stay safe.

[gregathit]

 

On item 3, I'm not sure that you can pull that off with the current versions of the LAPF\Setbody\Joystick.  I'm not aware of any mechanism that would randomly specify a percentage of females to have a dick or a dildo.  Obviously a script to do just that could be made, but I wouldn't know the first thing about how to go about it.  Scripting is not my bag.  

 

Create two tokens; one for futa, one for not.

When an act starts, check for the token; if there - add the body corresponding to it. If not - use whatever function you like to roll the dice, and add the appropriate token (along with the corresponding body) to the actor.

 

When an act starts next time, the actor already has a token in her inventory, thus there will be consistency.

 

This, however, does not ensure consistency once an actor respawns (as the token will be gone from their inventory).

 

 

Yea, I think I'll stick to animating.  Learning blender just barely well enough to animate was torture enough.  Trying to learn to script......well......I'd just end up offing my self out of shear frustration.  

[movomo]

Probably, I haven't tried myself, but you might be able to tweak LoversChorus by Wappy to distribute a specific lovers voice set for each race. And that kind of cycling scripts aren't all that complicated anyway.

[ljacquard]

Thanks for the tip.

 

I used to use that mod, but uninstalled it. The content seemed redunant to me with the latest version of LAPF

 

I will have another look.