Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 Hello again, I am back asking more annoying things. I apologize. I know that awhile back (long before Skyrim) there were some very awesome creature animations, especially with zombies & goblins. When I initiate sex with a creature now though I get the same (no offense but I sort of think they are lame) humping animations that I really don't care for and nothing else. I know Goblins used to do... some very interesting positions and zombies for whatever reason, had some extremely well done animations. Dunno about the animation project and typing it in the search pulls up way too many finds. I think Donkey created them, or at least had a big hand in them. I tried looking through their posts to see but it's 121 pages of things. I am not trying to bring up anything bad as well seeing as most the posts I see now say that Donkey is not supporting anything from Oblivion anymore in the way of mods and wishes that no one changes this particular project which I honestly understand fully! I am not trying to start anything negative! I miss my wicked creature animations though, it's my favorite thing about the entire Lovers series! I have tried the latest Creatures and CreaturesExtended but neither of them seem to have these animations other then the bleh humpy ones I don't care for personally. A direct link would be nice but if they aren't available or whatever anymore I fully agree. I am a serious newby to the forums here and I am not trying to be pushy or ungrateful for the work that has been done in not only fixing most (if not all) of these but also translating; etc as well. I just don't want to seem rude is all. :blush:I am a complete and utter ditz sometimes, shows what hydrocodone can do to your brain I guess, ugh. I think (I *think*) *this* is what I was talking about but not totally sure. As the thread is officially closed I can't ask on there either so here goes. Is this already added into the latest Creatures and/or extended versions? If not, is it compatible with either/or?
Guest Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 Check this thread: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=184 Hope this helps!
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 Yes, that is the thread I linked. I didn't see an answer to the two questions though. Edit: Ok after awhile of reading the 22 pages and a full migraine the answer isn't there but the questions are. I figured it out though that no they are not in either mod and need to be added separately but work fine now. Didn't delete this because other people are wondering and you cannot post new comments in that thread. Won't be answering anything else, I just wanted to state that right now so I would not seem rude to you HaloReachMan123 as you tried to help and I don't want it to look as though I just dumped the issue. Hope this helps other people who asked the same question.
gregathit Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Froggy, did you go to the link Halo sent you and open the txt file that is in the OP which has a link to the animations that Donkey made?
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Sorry for taking so long to reply, don't mean to seem rude. I honestly don't remember seeing a text but I will look in awhile, I'm sorry I'm not really awake. Edit: Ok, I see what you were saying. Yes, I read the text and got the link to download the files, that is how I know it works ok now. I couldn't have downloaded them and added them to the original mods if I hadn't. It was the first link I said. Also as I said I didn't delete it because I saw other people had the same questions as I did. I answered them, so I thought it would help others who were slightly confused (I honestly thought the new animations, seeing as they cannot be worked on anymore anyways; should be in both packs by default but are in fact not) so they know to go ahead and grab that the animations pack too because it's amazing and; as far as I am concerned; necessary to really enjoy either mod. Second Edit: After installing this, the creatures work ok and the new animations work as well; but now I am back to my old problems of having bandits get up and attack me after they have died. I tried the Rape spell on one, her clothes flew off; she got up and started attacking me. I tried re-installing Joburg and a clean save (I think that is what you call it, where you deactivate the plug ins and start the game then save, reactivate then start the game again?) but she keeps doing the same thing.
gregathit Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 FoggyZerani, The second problem is one I need to see your load order to figure out what mods you are running. If clothes are flying off with rape I am guessing that you are running an old gangbang edition of joburg as it had that feature. Unfortunately that version was extremely buggy and that feature never really worked correctly.
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Oh ok, I'm sorry I didn't think of that, thank you for being patient with me. Load Out right now~ Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm All Natural Base.esm Cobl Main.esm Harvest[Containers].esm Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esm x117race.esm Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm LoversCreature.esm DLCShiveringIsles.esp All Natural.esp All Natural - SI.esp Immersive Interiors.esp OBGE - Liquid Water.esp Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp ImprovedSigns.esp P1DseeYouSleep.esp P1DseeYouSleep - Vampire Bedroll Anims.esp Portable Campsite.esp P1DseeYouSleep - Portable Campsite.esp Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp P1DseeYouSleep - Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp VA_BetterGold.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp Slof's Horses Base.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - My Horses.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - Friesian Horses.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - Shadowmere.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - Extra Horses.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - More Horses.esp Zira's Horse Modpack - Armored Legion Horses.esp DLCThievesDen.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Si.esp Cobl Tweaks.esp Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp Alluring Wine Bottles.esp Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla - Ore Respawn.esp Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp Harvest [Flora].esp Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp Better Dungeons.esp HUDCompanions.esp Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp quickstart.esp Basic Primary Needs.esp MadCompanionshipSpells.esp MCS extension.esp SetBody.esp SupremeMagicka.esp SM_ShiveringIsles.esp SM_DLCSpellTome.esp SM_COBL.esp SM_EnchantStaff.esp SM_VanillaSpells.esp SM_NoSpellLights.esp SM_Scrolls.esp SM_SigilStone.esp HumantouchNPC.esp zzEstrus.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Cobl Races.esp Cobl Races - Balanced.esp KT_CustomRaceFix.esp QTdof.esp X-Ray Detect.esp Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversSlavePlay.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPower.esp LoversFSE.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversLight.esp LoversHideMenus.esp LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreatureExtender.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp I saved your suggestion from this post - http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=5435&page=2 from the first time you helped me because I don't want to keep bothering the people on this site with my problems. I just can't seem to get this right. Joburg - 1_17 LoversBitch - v0_5b LoversWithPK_Rev91 New and improved animation project - 2.4 I always download stuff from the first post, I'm probably wrong in doing so but I always assumed they were the files that were updated. I do think it has something to do with the raping stuff by itself, when I initiate sex or accept an offer then everything works alright. I don't fully understand why it is when I rape someone, my stats are damaged but I will read it over again. I'm sure this is just me messing everything up; I am expert messer-upper.
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Here is what is happening in my game. Being raped by either sex or creatures is ok. If my character initiates the rape, they will walk around as if nothing is happening while my character does the animation. If my character violates an enemy after they have been defeated, they get up and attack my character but my character goes through with the animation. Regular sex, accepting an offer, being raped in combat or being raped randomly by a stalker causes no problems. Raping someone during combat or after they have been killed causes the problems. Also, I am not sure why, but my character's stats are damaged even if they are the ones initiating the rape. They always get damages to their stats no matter who rapes who.
gregathit Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Are you sure you are running the normal joburg and not the gangbang edition? Normal joburg: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2 Normal RaperS: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=26 Here is the gangbang edition of joburg: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=1672 This one has a version with stat damage and clothing/armor/weapon drops. I would try reinstalling the normal raperS and normal joburg as well as reinstalling the resource pack and then the lovers base pack. Resource pack: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=29 Then install base pack: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=7 Stat damage is why I think you used/are using the gangbang edition as the normal one doesn't have this as I remember.
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Just to show what I actually have. I am going to do as you suggest though because you have been so patient with me during the whole process. Your suggestions are highly appreciated, thank you for taking the time to help me with all of this. I will do you as you say with the last post, it will take a moment. I just wanted to post the picture to show you what I have because I am confused about all the different types of Lovers mods.
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Fresh installs, started a new game and it is still the same. Stats reduced, they can rape me but when my character initiates they just stand there or walk around calmly until it's finished then resumes combat. I'm starting to wonder if there is something wrong with the file itself. I think today now that I have the mods I know that I want, I am going to uninstall everything and start over completely fresh and see if that changes things. I'm not looking forward to re-installing MBP though :/
Guest Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 If your using the lovers raperS roleplaying edition, that problem will arise, especially if you try to rape as a female. I'm not sure why this happens, but that's how it is. You'll have to switch to a different version.
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Starting a fresh install now, hopefully I won't muck everything up so badly. Thank you for the help, I need to teach myself how to do these things so I stop bothering you guys with this every five minutes. Thank you for being patient with me while I try to learn. Much appreciated; I know I say this a lot I do mean it though. Now to just wait for the DL to finish on my crappy internet connection. Least I have Darth Marenghi's Dark Place to keep me company.
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Are you sure you are running the normal joburg and not the gangbang edition? Normal joburg: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2 Normal RaperS: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=26 Here is the gangbang edition of joburg: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=1672 This one has a version with stat damage and clothing/armor/weapon drops. I would try reinstalling the normal raperS and normal joburg as well as reinstalling the resource pack and then the lovers base pack. Resource pack: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=29 Then install base pack: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=7 Stat damage is why I think you used/are using the gangbang edition as the normal one doesn't have this as I remember. This time I started a completely new game, fresh out of the box so to speak. I got all of my other mods working with no problems and decided to go ahead and start doing the Lovers stuff all over again. Everything works ok for the most part (I will test further later, I am extremely tired right now; sorry) as far as I can tell. But, I used the links here to grab the 'normal' versions. My stats are reduced with rape still and clothes still go flying off though. It's the file, it wasn't me for once. I guess this is just how they are now? I don't like it to be honest but there isn't anything I can do as far as I know. I found a file that changes the LoversCreatureExtended.esp so that the mushrooms aren't flying out of people anymore but I guess for now I will have to live with stat damage. I really * really* hate that though.
gregathit Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 Are you sure you are running the normal joburg and not the gangbang edition? Normal joburg: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2 Normal RaperS: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=26 Here is the gangbang edition of joburg: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=1672 This one has a version with stat damage and clothing/armor/weapon drops. I would try reinstalling the normal raperS and normal joburg as well as reinstalling the resource pack and then the lovers base pack. Resource pack: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=29 Then install base pack: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=7 Stat damage is why I think you used/are using the gangbang edition as the normal one doesn't have this as I remember. This time I started a completely new game' date=' fresh out of the box so to speak. I got all of my other mods working with no problems and decided to go ahead and start doing the Lovers stuff all over again. Everything works ok for the most part (I will test further later, I am extremely tired right now; sorry) as far as I can tell. But, I used the links here to grab the 'normal' versions. My stats are reduced with rape still and clothes still go flying off though. It's the file, it wasn't me for once. I guess this is just how they are now? I don't like it to be honest but there isn't anything I can do as far as I know. I found a file that changes the LoversCreatureExtended.esp so that the mushrooms aren't flying out of people anymore but I guess for now I will have to live with stat damage. I really * really* hate that though. [/quote'] Froggy, Try the attached version of RaperS and see if you still have stat damage. Try starting a new game to make sure there is no code left over from the other.
galgat Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 if you have started new, do one mod at a time, and test, I know is slow and boring that way, but when you load the mod that is causing the problems you will know it. And can cull that mod. or look for a different version. also turning off one mod at a time, and seeing if it makes a difference is another way to find a conflict. The Error checking stuff in Wrye bash, and OBMM I mean they have so many if, and's and maybes about them that they are mostly good for nothing but confusing you. So look at them from the proverbial grain of salt perspective. the one mod off or on at a time is the surest method to sort out conflicts. It gets even more troublesome as more and more modders use scripts & quest from previous mods, and renaming there mod to something else. If I were clean starting I would go with this load order, and start adding one at a time after that. 01 Oblivion.esm 03 Lovers with PK.esm 04 LoversCreature.esm 05 BreakUndies.esm <<< and this one is questionable 07 KT_CustomRaceFix.esp 09 DLCHorseArmor.esp 0A DLCOrrery.esp 0B DLCFrostcrag.esp 0C DLCThievesDen.esp 0D DLCVileLair.esp 0E DLCSpellTomes.esp 0F DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 10 Knights.esp 11 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 18 ExnemEyeCandy.esp 23 LoversLight.esp << 24 LoversFSE.esp << 29 RealWalk.esp << 2D LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 3D Lovers with PK.esp [Version 93] 3E LoversCreature.esp 3F LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 40 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 41 Lovers3dorgasm.esp
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 I'll do it again as you guys say, I'm not trying to be a butt I have been following instructions but I'm still not 100% sure it's not just me screwing something up. I was uncertain of break undies as well cause of the flying clothes so I actually removed that and it's still happening. I will try the alternative download and try each plug in separately. I was modding from about 5pm yesterday till 11am so when it comes to taking a lot of time and doing it one by one, I don't mind. I have way too much time on my hands for awhile anyways.
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 New game with Lovers Resource Pack, PK base and the Alternative RaperS loaded with absolutely nothing else in the load order (well, as far as Lovers stuff goes I mean) This is what I get still. Rape 1 Rape 2 Rape 3 The stat reduction doesn't happen with creatures and the armor/weapons no longer fly off their bodies but being raped by another human causes the stat reduction. This is with the alternative RaperS that was provided and the two base packs only. Edit: Tried the last list and load order with an additional pack, the Mod Mini Pack (new game, all my saves are deleted before I begin the game anyways) and now this happens: I decided to try a different type of character with loads of strength and endurance and apparently it now just completely removes your stats all together. Will uncheck everything and do it over again. Mind you, the first mess ups happened with only the 2 necessary packs and the one plug in. This is my last edit for now, I'm pretty frustrated to be honest and I don't think it's something I am doing wrong anymore. I really believe something is messed up somewhere else that wasn't my fault (for once). Load (showing what I have during the last test) Outcome Not sure what else to do. All of these are as basic as it gets, but the stat problem persists no matter what. All of them are fresh games, I dunno what else to try anymore. This happens with only the two necessary packs + ONE plug-in; no matter which plug in I try. The two packs were freshly downloaded from Are you sure you are running the normal joburg and not the gangbang edition? Normal joburg: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2 Normal RaperS: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=26 Here is the gangbang edition of joburg: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=1672 This one has a version with stat damage and clothing/armor/weapon drops. I would try reinstalling the normal raperS and normal joburg as well as reinstalling the resource pack and then the lovers base pack. Resource pack: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=29 Then install base pack: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=7 Stat damage is why I think you used/are using the gangbang edition as the normal one doesn't have this as I remember. suggestions before I ever started testing. I'm convinced there is a problem somewhere else now that I myself cannot fix.
gregathit Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 FroggyZerani, Humor me and disable ALL your plugins except for The lovers base pack and resources files and RaperS (the one I sent you) and start a new game (leave joburg out of it for now). Note: This includes ALL non-official DLC that you have enabled like humantouch.esp and basic primary needs.esp and COBL...Every last one. With only these few mods enabled start your new game and go get your PC raped and see if you still have stat damage. The reason I want you to do this is sometimes there are other mods that can interpret the rape as a hostile action (which of course it is) and thus damages you. If no stat damage occurs then start adding back mods in groups of 2 to the mix until things get funky again. That will narrow down the mod in question.
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 I will give these a shot later (I'm so sorry, I thought you meant to go back and only disable Lovers mods; I misunderstood what you said entirely, that is my fault) but for tonight (it's 3:31am for me) I am giving it a rest as it's getting me upset and that is a bad thing for me right now lol. Edit: My name is Foggy. No R.
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOKAY! Everything seems to be working now as I want it to! I have a bigger problem but I am aware of this being an old Oblivion glitch. My mouse doesn't work so well for some reason right now, when I go to 'finish the combat' (rape defeated enemy) and it says "'blah' has been beaten badly and is now being violated!" or however it says it, I can't click on the 'Done' button for some reason. This has happened to me before with only texture packs though, so I know it's not a mod. I should have done the last suggestion from the every beginning. I wasn't thinking right and still have some problems adjusting. Thank you so very much for being so helpful and patient with my dumbass. I have all my spiffy animations and the new ones from Nubsie(sp?) as well so it is going a lot better. I need to replace a few of the voices (I'd like a super gruff male voice for rapists and something new for females but other then that I am perfectly happy now! Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!! Oh and yes, it WAS Basic Primary Needs. I guess something in Lovers changed because I used to have that one before with Lovers (when it was just xLovers) but apparently now they do not play well together. My load order wasn't causing the actors to become reanimated or stop my rape during combat either, it was the mini mod pack. It has a lot of .esps that seem unnecessary for the files to run without problems. Mainly just doubles to be exact. Everything is super sorted out now, some of the sound effects I changed from the squishy to a more 'slap happy' sound while being penetrated and changed the BJ sounds so they aren't so nappy and instead reflect the female being forced to give one instead! All works very well now, I have to remember how I fix the mouse thing but everything else (including my super creature rape animations) are perfect! I can't begin to tell you how happy it makes me! I ~love~ creature rape:blush:, thank you SO MUCH again! <3
gregathit Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Actually the message "'blah' has been beaten badly and is now being violated!" IS from a lovers file called RaperS.esp You can rape the recently killed (you have like 2-3 seconds to do so before they are truly dead and unavailable for sex). Unless you have lovers necro installed it won't bring them back to life they will simply die when you finish with them. Not sure why your mouse won't work. Try hitting the console key (~ by default) and see if there are any errors from lovers when this happens.
Guest †Foggy♥Sugar† Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Not sure why your mouse won't work. Try hitting the console key (~ by default) and see if there are any errors from lovers when this happens. Oh it's an old Oblivion glitch that rears it's ugly head from time to time. It's ok now, it's not that bad to fix really. I wanted to try Better Cities and made a new character (this time to actually PLAY!) so everything seems alright now. Seriously, you have a new stalker er fan. Thank you so much it means the world to me to get something done right, I'm obsessed with modding for some reason.
gregathit Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Yea, it is an infectious disease (modding)! Soon you will spend more time modding than playing Have fun!
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