Oddity with SL animations not playing - script lag?

[begalund]

Okay so about 3.5 months ago my computer had a major meltdown.  Power supply, mobo, hard drives (with the mod I was working on), processor, both graphics cards - it was a real mess (and before you ask, no it wasn't a surge I run on a UPS, it was gremlins).  I've finally gotten around to rebuilding the damn thing and even upgrading a bit, but I've been having a terrible time fixing my Skyrim setup.

 

Yes, I know all about MO, and LOOT, and TES5.  Those aren't the issues.  Right now I'm down to three little things - only one of which I'm asking for help with here (although I'll mention the other two anyway   The Dreamgirl body type is just fubar for me - even in a MO profile where that is the only mod installed, the hands and feet are just wrong (not just bad seems, they appear to be the wrong size); and no matter what I try I can't get Better Vampires to completely turn on - again, even if it is the only mod running).  

 

Anyway, I've installed a few SL framework mods that all seem to be working well together.  Specifically, Mass Matchmaker, Bestial Essence, The Animal Mansion, Aroused and Aroused Creatures, Aroused, Attraction, Approach. Solutions, Werewolves, and More Nasty Critters.  I've also got Estrus Charus and all the prereqs, as well as Soul Gem Oven II.  Everything is working, including having HDT physics and pregnancy scaling.  (BTW, all are excellent, and I commend all the authors!))

 

Except.

 

Whenever I trigger off the spells from Mass Matchmaker targeting myself and one other person, inevitably - over 90% of the time - they default to solo masturbation sessions and not copulation.  And a good 75% of the time those masturbation sessions involve the tentacle effects from Estrus Charus.  This doesn't happen with any of the "scripted" events from the other mods (like those triggered by Solutions for example), nor those caused between various NPCs when I drop the area effect spells from Mass Matchmaker.  Only when I'm using the single targeted spells involving my character in the act.  

 

I suspect it has something to do with script delay since when I tick off the masturbation animations in SL, and then trigger the spells nothing happens at all.  However, I don't know how to check on this, since I've already checked my save games with SaveTool looking for bad scripts to clean and there aren't any.  

 

So, any suggestions?

[Sailing Rebel]

We'll need a load order and papyrus log from a game in which the issue occurred.

 

Not sure about the DG model problem but it sounds like the hands and feet nifs are mismatched. Is it possible there are loose character model files in your vanilla Data folder?

[Ashal]

Literally impossible to give any sort of accurate answer without a debug log. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/32980-important-post-your-debug-logs-your-load-order-is-a-useless-waste-of-everybodies-time/

[begalund]

Oh yeah, was planning to include those when I had more time to do so.  I was in a bit of rush this morning when I fired off the first message.  I was hoping that maybe someone might say "oh yeah, I had that problem and it was ..."  

 

But it isn't ever that simple.

 

Attached are all three files people might need:  a quick papyrus log - wherein all I did was enter the game, target Serana and fire off the two mass matchmaker spells (target and self).  My character did a standard female ap masturbation, while Serana was wrapped in estrus tentacles.  The animations played normally, but this is exactly what happens a good 90% of the time I target myself and any other female character - only the masturbation and/or estrus tentacle animations are typically chosen.  If I pick myself and a male character, then the male character is typically only involved in standing male masturbation, while my toon typically gets the usual choice of regular masturbation or estrus tentacles.

 

The other 10% of the time the animations appear to "sync" up normally and then choose from the available checked choices in sexlab.  Although I will admit I haven't triggered enough individual sessions to be precise about that 10% figure - I'm just guessing.

 

The other two files are labeled as "leftside" and "rightside" corresponding to the left (mod) and right (plugin) side load panels in MO respectively.  The only oddity about these two files is that MO seems to save the leftside file in reverse order for some reason.  So read it from the bottom up.  It should be pretty obvious though since it'll have an overwrite file at the top (I keep it around for when I run fnis) and all the unofficial skyrim updates at the bottom.

 

Let me know if you need anything else - such as running a longer game session for a longer papyrus log or something.

 

As for the DG suggestion, I'll look into it.  I don't think that's the problem since I've been running MO since I started the rebuild, and the DG body type was the first one I installed for testing, but I'll check it out anyway.  Odd thing is, that's the only one so affected.  All the others I've tried (UNP and variants, CBBE and variants, etc) have all worked fine, just not the one I wanted most.  Very odd and annoying.

leftside.txt

rightside.txt

Papyrus.0.log

[begalund]

After reviewing my own first posted papyrus log, I realized that it might not show enough info, so I re-entered the same save game and did the same steps.  

 

1. targeted Serana and myself

2. fired off the same two spells

3. waited for the animations to finish

 

except this time, instead of quitting and posting the results, I did the following:

 

4. immediately retargeted Serana and myself

5. fired off the same two spells again

6. ended up with a normal copulation

 

scrolling down through the papyrus log this time you can see a difference between the two events - specifically in the "found animations" section during the first act it only finds 5 available, in the second it finds 33.  And no, I didn't change any settings in the MCM.  All I did was wait for the first animations to finish (Serana reclothed herself after the tentacles finished ravishing her) and then triggered another act.

 

That's the only issue I can see.  I know there are still missing issues way at the top with Better Vampires and Selene Kate - there are no loose scripts however, since I've already cleaned those out.

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

[begalund]

Well, glad to know that posting my logs got me extra assistance (only a bit miffed, since I did follow up almost immediately and then hear nothing back for days).

 

Anyway, I'll add a bit of my own investigations to this topic:

 

I turned off Soul Gem Oven, Bestial Essence, Animal Mansion and all the werewolf modification mods (actually I copied the MO profile over to another profile and started a new game without those mods turned on).  Now Mass Matchmaker seems to work properly.  By werewolf modification mods, I am referring to both the sexlab werewolf as well as the non-SL ones (perk mods and the like).

 

So it is likely an odd conflict with one of those mods.  I've been up and down the papyrus logs before and after the change and can't see anything in particular that showed the conflict.  

 

*shrug*  anyway, off to figure out the next issue.

[Ashal]

Exact same things mentioned here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/40004-animations-wont-play-cant-initiate-prostitution/?p=1002810

[begalund]

Thanks!

 

Wonderful answer.  And something I never would have found, since the forum search function is occasionally buggy (and I never look for radiant prostitution anyway).

 

That does seem to be the issue; although I'm curious why it gets triggered that way, since it seems to be an issue with estrus charus almost overriding the SL scripts.  In any event, I'll just be avoiding that mod in the future.  Thank you for the assistance.

 

 

 

(As a side note, I have never in my life seen anyone else use the name Zylanya before.  It is a pretty rare name originally found in a book by Gary Jennings.  I use it in games from time to time.  To have seen it appear in another person's log file as their character's name was just odd  )

[Ashal]

(As a side note, I have never in my life seen anyone else use the name Zylanya before.  It is a pretty rare name originally found in a book by Gary Jennings.  I use it in games from time to time.  To have seen it appear in another person's log file as their character's name was just odd  )

 

Not just the Zylanya name, but also testing with Serana and using estus as well. It's weirdly very coincidental, I was honestly just assuming both posts were you, just under a new username to try and get the problem seen again.

[begalund]

Nah, I'd never do that.  Very cheesy method of trying to get a post answered.  I'll always stick with my original login name on any message board - unless I completely forget the password or something - and then I'll make every attempt to contact an admin and get the accounts merged in some fashion.

 

I'm unfortunately one of those unfortunate types that knows just enough computer savvy to get themselves in all kinds of trouble, and usually enough to understand the gist of what is happening/going on/what is wrong.  But never quite enough to fix everything completely.  And I never have enough time to learn any particular language or gain enough coding ability to fully grasp everything I want.

 

Good example - I'm making my first armor mod; and while it's coming together slowly, and looking better than a lot of them out there (imho), I have no idea how any of the HDT stuff works (even in the slightest), and I'm not sure if I want to try and fool with it at all.  

 

So thanks again.  Rebuilding is painful, and tracking down annoying errors like this is a bitch for me.