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My papyrus logs are very large. For example, 40 minutes of playtime generates a 66 MB papyrus log (also why I'm not pasting them here)

 

There is a lot of text because of stacks getting too large and being dumped into the log.

 

[09/26/2014 - 08:04:50PM] Suspended stack count is over our warning threshold, dumping stacks:

 

This seems to constantly happen. I can alt - tab to check updates to the papyrus logs, and every time there will be a ton more dumped stacks.

 

 

 

Is this a sign of a problem? I have been having quirks with this playthrough (SL Aroused MCM menus not working, Locational Damage being incredibly lagged, despite Convenient Horse's script lag test showing average lag of <100ms, SD+ not working right [well, I've always had issues with it])

 

I want to attribute it to SL Aroused since there's something clearly wrong with it (MCM menus not loading). Even if I use a save game tool cleaner to remove the SLA scripts and its instances, the MCM menus just break again later on.

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I'm seing these two a lot:

 

 

 

[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM] Dumping stack 169721:
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]     Frame count: 1 (Page count: 1)
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]     State: Waiting on other stack for call (Freeze state: Freezing)
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]     Type: Normal
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]     Return register: None
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]     Has stack callback: No
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]     Stack trace:
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]         [None].DualSheathReduxApplyEffect.OnEffectStart() - "DualSheathReduxApplyEffect.psc" Line 6
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             IP: 0    Instruction: 0    Line: 6
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [akTarget]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (00019821)>]
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [::temp0]: False

 

 

 

 

 

[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM] Dumping stack 212972:
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]     Frame count: 1 (Page count: 1)
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]     State: Waiting on other stack for call (Freeze state: Freezing)
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]     Type: Normal
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]     Return register: None
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]     Has stack callback: No
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]     Stack trace:
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]         [None].KahmulLOCaddAbScript.OnEffectStart() - "KahmulLOCaddAbScript.psc" Line 17
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             IP: 40    Instruction: 2    Line: 17
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [Target]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (00019821)>]
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [Caster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [::temp0]: [kahmullocmcm <KahmulLOCQuest (64000D62)>]
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [::temp1]: None
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [::temp2]: None
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [::temp3]: False
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [targetRace]: None
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [::temp4]: False
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [::temp5]: False
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [::temp6]: 0
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [::temp7]: False
[09/26/2014 - 09:17:49PM]             [::temp8]: False

 

 

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I also get these errors on load:

 

 

 

[09/26/2014 - 09:47:54PM] error: Native function GetUseSound in empty state does not match existing signature on linked type Potion. Function will not be bound.
[09/26/2014 - 09:47:54PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[09/26/2014 - 09:47:54PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:09PM] Cannot open store for class "follower3dnpc", missing file?
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:10PM] Cannot open store for class "_arissa_inpc_behavior", missing file?
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:10PM] Cannot open store for class "chherdingquestscript", missing file?
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:11PM] Error: Unable to bind script traptriggerbase to TweakTraps (5700C515) because their base types do not match
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:11PM] Error: Unable to bind script TrapBear to TweakTraps (5700C515) because their base types do not match
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:11PM] Cannot open store for class "SF_TweakP1Hangout_02017201", missing file?
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:11PM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_TweakP1Hangout_02017201 to  (57017201) because their base types do not match
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:11PM] Cannot open store for class "SF_TweakP1Pose_02017788", missing file?
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:11PM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_TweakP1Pose_02017788 to  (57017788) because their base types do not match
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:13PM] Cannot open store for class "isilStingGlow", missing file?
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:13PM] Cannot open store for class "MODTimeOfDayScript0", missing file?
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:13PM] Error: Unable to bind script MODTimeOfDayScript0 to  (71085BFB) because their base types do not match
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] Error: Property Player on script _sdras_master attached to alias _SDRA_master on quest _SD_enslavement (7600182D) cannot be bound because alias _SDRA_player on quest _SD_controller (76000D64) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] Warning: Property coAgg on script sldn attached to alias Player on quest SLDangerousNights (9C000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] Warning: Property Agg on script sldn attached to alias Player on quest SLDangerousNights (9C000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] Error: Property Compatibility on script wizRockAliasScript attached to alias wizRockAlias on quest wizPickaxeQuest (BD02C943) cannot be bound because alias wizDTCompatibilityAlias on quest wizDTCompatibilityQuest (BD0135A9) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] Warning: Property Cover on script SLDN_Follower_aux attached to SLDN_Follower (9C0133F4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] Error: Property funct on script _sdsf_thug_scene_03 attached to  (76036673) cannot be bound because _SD_thugslave (7603610A) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] Error: Property CiceroAlias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias CiceroEndGameAlias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] Error: Property Initiate1Alias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias Initiate1Alias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] Error: Property Initiate2Alias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias Initiate2Alias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] Error: Property Slots on script xpoanimation attached to xpoAnimation (8502BB0B) cannot be bound because SexLabQuestAnimationSlots (0E03CE6C) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] Warning: Property Alias_Elenwen on script skyrimunboundmq101script attached to MQ101 (0003372B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (A4003DEF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0003BDE9) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] VM is freezing...
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:21PM] VM is frozen
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Reverting game...
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_TweakP1Pose_02017788 to  (57017788) because their base types do not match
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Error: Unable to bind script traptriggerbase to TweakTraps (5700C515) because their base types do not match
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Error: Unable to bind script TrapBear to TweakTraps (5700C515) because their base types do not match
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_TweakP1Hangout_02017201 to  (57017201) because their base types do not match
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Error: Unable to bind script MODTimeOfDayScript0 to  (71085BFB) because their base types do not match
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Warning: Property Cover on script SLDN_Follower_aux attached to SLDN_Follower (9C0133F4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Warning: Property Alias_Elenwen on script skyrimunboundmq101script attached to MQ101 (0003372B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Error: Property Slots on script xpoanimation attached to xpoAnimation (8502BB0B) cannot be bound because SexLabQuestAnimationSlots (0E03CE6C) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Error: Property CiceroAlias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias CiceroEndGameAlias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Error: Property Initiate1Alias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias Initiate1Alias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Error: Property Initiate2Alias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias Initiate2Alias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Warning: Property coAgg on script sldn attached to alias Player on quest SLDangerousNights (9C000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Warning: Property Agg on script sldn attached to alias Player on quest SLDangerousNights (9C000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Error: Property funct on script _sdsf_thug_scene_03 attached to  (76036673) cannot be bound because _SD_thugslave (7603610A) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:22PM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (A4003DEF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0003BDE9) is not the right type
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:54PM] Loading game...
[09/26/2014 - 09:48:54PM] VM is thawing...

 

 

 

The line about arissa_inpc_behavior is quite odd since I don't use the Arissa npc mod and never have. I also use ModOrganizer, so it's not like I leave stray files behind when uninstalling mods either.

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Hi,

 

The size of a papyrus log isn't by itself a problem, it happend that most mods are very verbose, because most modders want a output line that confirm the passage in case of debug...

 

But, if you get a lot of stack error and problem with your game yes...

 

Note: there are EVERY time error but not all are problems

 

Some depends by dirty edits, other by incorrect upload, other about missing raccomanded mod, dirty save, mods conflict etc.

 

IF you had lag and problem the only advice that i can give to you is to Uninstall skyrim (and remove the folders too, keep only the savegame) Do a Clean install THEN start re-adding mod Updated, trying to avoid conflict and missing mod

 

Also: if you have modded something you could be fallen in a stupid error of Looping While (a While that has not an end)

 

And: If you could also hava done a "Farmer uninstall" (disable a mod and removed without using the correct procedure of uninstalling) For example, there are modder that use the "registerforupdate" instead that "RegisterForaSingleUpdate", if the mod get uninstalled without stopping the updater it goes on in an infinite loop of pointless cycle (and error)

 

 

Some solution:

-As previously said: massive uninstall and reinstall it should solve almost any problem RELATED TO AN INCORRECT MENAGEMENT OF THE MOD

-A Save cleaner should clean your savegame from errors/loop etc.

 

So, do some test, start a NEW game, play 5/10 mins, do some stuff, kill nazeer, then look at the log.

 

If it have the stack error, is a problem of mod

If not it is your save

(approximately)

 

About yours specific error it coiuld simply depends by a conflict mod or a not updated version, try to run Boos/Loot/Tes5Edit to see if there are conflict

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When a stack dump happens all the commands that were in that stack waiting to happen are all tossed out, usually killing whatever script that had processes waiting. The stack dumps are not the cause of your problems but a result of them, likely numerous repeated errors. My advice at this point (especially if you have continued playing with them happening) is start a new game and check for errors before continuing with that new game.

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When a stack dump happens all the commands that were in that stack waiting to happen are all tossed out, usually killing whatever script that had processes waiting. The stack dumps are not the cause of your problems but a result of them, likely numerous repeated errors. My advice at this point (especially if you have continued playing with them happening) is start a new game and check for errors before continuing with that new game.

 

This is already on a fairly new game since I switched from Live Another Live to Skyrim Unbound.

 

I tried loading a new game anyway though and the logs look kind of similar, though there are less errors--the earlier logs had some lines that look like SD+ broke something.

 

Anyway, these errors show up in the logs by just loading Skyrim:

 

 

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:27PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:27PM] error: Native function GetUseSound in empty state does not match existing signature on linked type Potion. Function will not be bound.

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:27PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:27PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:42PM] Cannot open store for class "follower3dnpc", missing file?

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:42PM] Cannot open store for class "_arissa_inpc_behavior", missing file?

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:42PM] Cannot open store for class "chherdingquestscript", missing file?

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:42PM] Error: Unable to bind script TrapBear to TweakTraps (5700C515) because their base types do not match

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:42PM] Error: Unable to bind script traptriggerbase to TweakTraps (5700C515) because their base types do not match

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:42PM] Cannot open store for class "SF_TweakP1Hangout_02017201", missing file?

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:42PM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_TweakP1Hangout_02017201 to  (57017201) because their base types do not match

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:42PM] Cannot open store for class "SF_TweakP1Pose_02017788", missing file?

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:42PM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_TweakP1Pose_02017788 to  (57017788) because their base types do not match

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:43PM] Cannot open store for class "isilStingGlow", missing file?

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:43PM] Cannot open store for class "MODTimeOfDayScript0", missing file?

[09/27/2014 - 12:15:43PM] Error: Unable to bind script MODTimeOfDayScript0 to  (71085BFB) because their base types do not match

 

 

 

And these additional errors occur when loading a save on a new game (right after Skyrim Unbound tosses you to your starting position):

 

 

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] Error: Property Player on script _sdras_master attached to alias _SDRA_master on quest _SD_enslavement (7600182D) cannot be bound because alias _SDRA_player on quest _SD_controller (76000D64) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] Warning: Property Agg on script sldn attached to alias Player on quest SLDangerousNights (9C000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] Warning: Property coAgg on script sldn attached to alias Player on quest SLDangerousNights (9C000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] Error: Property Compatibility on script wizRockAliasScript attached to alias wizRockAlias on quest wizPickaxeQuest (BD02C943) cannot be bound because alias wizDTCompatibilityAlias on quest wizDTCompatibilityQuest (BD0135A9) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] Warning: Property Cover on script SLDN_Follower_aux attached to SLDN_Follower (9C0133F4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] Error: Property Slots on script xpoanimation attached to xpoAnimation (8502BB0B) cannot be bound because SexLabQuestAnimationSlots (0E03CE6C) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] Error: Property Initiate2Alias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias Initiate2Alias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] Error: Property CiceroAlias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias CiceroEndGameAlias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] Error: Property Initiate1Alias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias Initiate1Alias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (A4003DEF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0003BDE9) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] Error: Property funct on script _sdsf_thug_scene_03 attached to  (76036673) cannot be bound because _SD_thugslave (7603610A) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] Warning: Property Alias_Elenwen on script skyrimunboundmq101script attached to MQ101 (0003372B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] VM is freezing...

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:45PM] VM is frozen

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:46PM] Reverting game...

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:46PM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_TweakP1Pose_02017788 to  (57017788) because their base types do not match

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Error: Unable to bind script TrapBear to TweakTraps (5700C515) because their base types do not match

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Error: Unable to bind script traptriggerbase to TweakTraps (5700C515) because their base types do not match

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_TweakP1Hangout_02017201 to  (57017201) because their base types do not match

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Error: Unable to bind script MODTimeOfDayScript0 to  (71085BFB) because their base types do not match

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Warning: Property Agg on script sldn attached to alias Player on quest SLDangerousNights (9C000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Warning: Property coAgg on script sldn attached to alias Player on quest SLDangerousNights (9C000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Warning: Property Cover on script SLDN_Follower_aux attached to SLDN_Follower (9C0133F4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Warning: Property Alias_Elenwen on script skyrimunboundmq101script attached to MQ101 (0003372B) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Error: Property Slots on script xpoanimation attached to xpoAnimation (8502BB0B) cannot be bound because SexLabQuestAnimationSlots (0E03CE6C) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Error: Property funct on script _sdsf_thug_scene_03 attached to  (76036673) cannot be bound because _SD_thugslave (7603610A) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (A4003DEF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0003BDE9) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Error: Property Initiate2Alias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias Initiate2Alias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Error: Property CiceroAlias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias CiceroEndGameAlias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:18:47PM] Error: Property Initiate1Alias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias Initiate1Alias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type

[09/27/2014 - 12:19:11PM] Loading game...

[09/27/2014 - 12:19:11PM] VM is thawing...

[09/27/2014 - 12:19:11PM] UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript OnPlayerLoadGame

[09/27/2014 - 12:19:11PM] [Zad]: QuestMonitor is now watching for device events.

[09/27/2014 - 12:19:11PM] UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript Maintenance

[09/27/2014 - 12:19:11PM] UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript SKSE installed, release 46

 

 

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Most of those are from mods that have changed properties that other things look at, either by removing the property or changing the property type. Some of the errors are likely from mods checking for other mods (missing file errors) and should only happen at loading a game.

 

What you want to look for is errors that repeat constantly, those are the errors that will kill your game. One of the big reasons I have found for that happening is either updating a mod where it has changed properties (they won't update) or removing a mod that had changed properties or replaced a script so those are now missing (won't change back to standard).

 

Your log should not get over 1mb ever. I use a lot of scripted mods and have error logging active on them and for a several hour session mine is usually about 600kb.

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Most of those are from mods that have changed properties that other things look at, either by removing the property or changing the property type. Some of the errors are likely from mods checking for other mods (missing file errors) and should only happen at loading a game.

 

What you want to look for is errors that repeat constantly, those are the errors that will kill your game. One of the big reasons I have found for that happening is either updating a mod where it has changed properties (they won't update) or removing a mod that had changed properties or replaced a script so those are now missing (won't change back to standard).

 

Your log should not get over 1mb ever. I use a lot of scripted mods and have error logging active on them and for a several hour session mine is usually about 600kb.

 

I'll have to try a new mod setup. Going to disable SL Aroused (and therefore also SD+ and DDI). I have a very strong suspicion SLA and SD+ broke something on my last game.

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