ntblood Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Hi. I have Sexlabs and several related mods installed. When I try to initiate a sex scene with dialogue "Let's have some > time to know eachother" the game CTD's every single time a bit after the NPC disrobes even though I tried Sexlabs nude-skins and uninstalling Zaz animations, etc. Also the Sexlab Matchmaker irresistible self fizzles when cast on NPC's even it seems if there aroused level is high (?) I updated all my mods the other day again but no luck. You can see what Sexlabs mods I have installed in the screenshot below (I added the note that the new version of Sexlabs Solutions is also installed in the pic). This is frustrating as I've been trying to get this to work off and on for almost a year :\ I use the XP32 Extended 2.05 Skeleton now with Realistic Ragdolls, No RaceMenu or ECE.Any suggestions are welcome. I'm combing through the pinned thread again now. Thank you!
bob11 Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Hi. I have Sexlabs and several related mods installed. When I try to initiate a sex scene with dialogue "Let's have some > time to know eachother" the game CTD's every single time a bit after the NPC disrobes even though I tried Sexlabs nude-skins and uninstalling Zaz animations, etc. Also the Sexlab Matchmaker irresistible self fizzles when cast on NPC's even it seems if there aroused level is high (?) I updated all my mods the other day again but no luck. You can see what Sexlabs mods I have installed in the screenshot below (I added the note that the new version of Sexlabs Solutions is also installed in the pic). This is frustrating as I've been trying to get this to work off and on for almost a year :\ I use XPMSplusSOSplusSMS Skeleton not the XP32 mod but just the modified one for compatibility with SOS. Any suggestions are welcome. I'm combing through the pinned thread again now. Thank you! Which female skeleton are you using? XPMSplusSOS is an outdated male skeleton.
ntblood Posted August 13, 2014 Author Posted August 13, 2014 I just switched to XP32 Extended 2.05 although I'm having the same issue. I think XP32_E covers both male & female, I'm playing a male pc) I installed it last, after Realistic Ragdolls & Force.When I update FNIS should I check the "Skeleton Arm Fix"? I haven't been recently.
bob11 Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 I just switched to XP32 Extended 2.05 although I'm having the same issue. I think XP32_E covers both male & female, I'm playing a male pc) I installed it last, after Realistic Ragdolls & Force. When I update FNIS should I check the "Skeleton Arm Fix"? I haven't been recently. I run FNIS with that checked. I also have the Extended one. I don't think any mod from that list would cause CTD on undress, that's a skeleton issue afaik.
judge0 Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 The actual load order of all your mods might be a little more informative. What you have provided, just leads to more questions: like why you have the Sexlab Working Girl Sound Files and no Sexlab Working Girl. If you are getting CTDs, a good thing might be to post your papyrus logs, also advised in the "Pinned" thread. As for suggestions on how to fix: Run Loot against your load order, and pay attention to warnings/errors Run Wrye Bash against your load order and again pay attention to warnings/errors Run TES5Edit against your load order, and pay attention to it's warnings/errors Check your masters for dirty edits Check for requirements of your mods (SKSE,JContainers, skeletons, PapyrusUtil, HDT HighHeels etc) Make sure to run GenerateFNISforUsers as required. Make sure to run any required Reproccer apps as required. Suggestions based solely on the undressing portion: Make sure you have a proper skeleton for your setup (i.e. If you are using a custom race like ygNord or Ningheim, manually placing the proper skeleton in that custom location) Make sure your armor is appropriate for your body mesh (BBP, HDT etc)
ntblood Posted August 14, 2014 Author Posted August 14, 2014 Where do you get that: "you have the Sexlab Working Girl Sound Files and no Sexlab Working Girl." ?I think I've covered most everything you listed there already for the most part at least. I'll go over it again.Ok, thank you for taking a look!Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5] 05 HearthFires.esm 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5] 07 Dragonborn.esm 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5] 09 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 0A Falskaar.esm 0B Wyrmstooth.esp [Version 1.10] 0C BBLuxurySuite.esm 0D SexLab.esm [Version 1.59] 0E ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 0F ApachiiHairFemales.esm 10 JSwords.esm [Version 1.4] 11 hdtHighHeel.esm 12 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 13 RaceCompatibility.esm 14 RSkyrimChildren.esm 15 SexLab Attraction.esm 16 SexLabAroused.esm 17 ApachiiHair.esm 18 SPERG.esm 19 Sanctum of the Fallen.esm 1A AP Skyrim.esm 1B UndergroundBathhouse.esm 1C ZaZAnimationPack.esm 1D HighResTexturePack01.esp 1E HighResTexturePack02.esp 1F HighResTexturePack03.esp 20 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.1.7] 21 ChainmailBikini.esp 22 Azincourt.esp 23 iHUD.esp 24 NakedComments.esp 25 HelmetToggle2.0.esp 26 Better Dynamic Snow.esp 27 ScaledBikini.esp 28 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 29 CannabisUpdate.esp 2A zzLSARAddon.esp 2B ERSO 03.4 - Super Mighty Dragonborn Dragons.esp 2C Convenient Horses.esp 2D Hearfire Girls Sleep UHP.esp 2E dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 2F DPnTrielekMix.esp 30 SexCrop.esp 31 ERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.esp 32 ERSO 03.5 - New Dragon Loots.esp 33 SexyKunoichi2ndByNausicaa.esp 34 ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp 35 SexLabMatchMaker.esp [Version 5] 36 DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp 37 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp 38 DCSorceress.esp 39 ERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp 3A Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 3B EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 3C ERSO 03.3 - Super Mighty Dawnguard Dragons.esp 3D ERSO 06 - Wait More Time Dragon Encounter x4.0.esp 3E Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 3F Pupetteer Master.esp [Version 1.6] 40 Gokstad Sailable Ship v1.3b.esp 41 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 42 More Dynamic Shadows.esp 43 High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp 44 FNISSexyMove.esp 45 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 46 ub_tapestry.esp 47 HugMe.esp 48 ERSO 03 - Super Mighty Dragons Unleveled DG.esp 49 Lace.esp 4A MashupUNP.esp 4B NoNakedComments.esp 4C Northgirl.esp 4D NorthGirl_SkyRe Patch.esp 4E PipeSmoking.esp 4F ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp 50 FixedEyeAdaption.esp 51 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 52 RevampedExteriorFog.esp 53 SexLab Approach.esp 54 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp [Version 1.4] 55 SkyUI.esp 56 Customizable Camera.esp 57 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp 58 ub_npc_rework.esp 59 WATER DG.esp 5A WetandCold.esp 5B WATER Falskaar.esp 5C Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 5D FA Guard Helmet.esp 5E SkyRe_Main.esp 5F 3DNPC.esp [Version 3.06] 60 FCO - 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SIC Patch.esp [Version v1] 85 SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp [Version v6.1.2] 86 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2a] 87 SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp 88 DFB - Random Encounters.esp [Version 1.2] 89 High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp 8A Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.7] 8B WetandCold - Holidays.esp 8C BloodyFacials.esp 8D Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 8E EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 8F Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp 90 BeautifulVampires.esp 91 High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp 92 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 93 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 94 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 95 WATER DB Waves.esp 96 multimarriage.esp 97 BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp 98 DragonsDiversified.esp 99 SexLab Solutions.esp 9A Inconsequential NPCs.esp 9B noiraldg.esp 9C Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp 9D RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 9E Beautiful Whiterun.esp 9F Cloaks.esp A0 ERSO 07 - Super Mighty Dragon Priests.esp A1 ERSO 09 - Vendor Trainer Quest-giver protected USKP.esp A2 zzLSAR.esp A3 RSChildren - 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ntblood Posted August 18, 2014 Author Posted August 18, 2014 Here are some recent papyrus logs. I had several ctd's during these. If anyone can take a look at these logs and give me your impression I would greatly appreciate it.**I will upload a new log soon that will be just the CTD when launching sexlabs.Thank you
raindy88 Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 Is there any possible that you forget to register zaz animation? Just now started a new game and CTD whenever sexlab started, and then only realize that I forget to register zaz animation
ntblood Posted August 18, 2014 Author Posted August 18, 2014 I just did register zaz in MCM and then got the same exact ctd as always after stripping & right before any animation. I attached the targeted ctd papyrus log for this issue I'm having. At least this papyrus log it 1/4 the size as the previous ones I posted.I thought sexlab didn't need zaz animation pack. I have it installed and have tried starting sexlab animations with and without zaz installed in the sexlab MCM menu, it's animation editor, the same ctd result each time. Thanks for pointing that out. I wish it would have fixed the issue.
Ashal Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 Try on a new game and see if you have any luck there, after that try following the complete save game cleaning steps given in the troubleshooting guide, http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22241-sexlab-support-troubleshooting-guide-read-me-before-posting/?p=549438 It's the big block of red text that starts with "Perform a complete save game script scrubbing" DO NOT skip any of the listed steps.
ntblood Posted August 19, 2014 Author Posted August 19, 2014 Ok, I'll look at the cleaning guide. Is it normal for the papyrus log to be so large and So many errors with missing files in the first 4 logs I uploaded here?
Ashal Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 Is it normal for the papyrus log to be so large and So many errors with missing files in the first 4 logs I uploaded here? It is when you have an old save that you've continually added and removed mods from constantly, which is why I'm suggestion you do the clean save steps, to remove all those old mod remnants and/or broken active mod instances. Whichever mods you have installed that are adding the xxxCombatModificationsDistribution, WeaponRackActivateScript and TweakFollowerAliasScript scripts however are the absolute worst offenders in your save game. Whatever mod is adding those individual scripts are likely broken and actively causing performance or CTD's on their own, outside of anything SexLab is doing. For some perspective, I have 253 active esp's in a 23 hour playtime save, after playing for an hour or two my papyrus log is usually around 200 kb. Assuming you've actively made sure you have the latest version of all major requirements, I'd take a guess that everything else broken in your save is causing papyrus to lag up or freeze whenever you tried to initially install SexLab. In which case a new game should have it functioning. None of your logs show SexLab actually being installed though, which suggests you had it installed in a broken way beforehand, in which case nothing is really going to fix that until you remove it, save, installed it, and let it rerun it's install and properly complete it's process. Post a debug log from when you do nothing else other than start a new game using Alternate Start, close character creation, and then just let the game idle for 3-5 minutes while all the mods go through their install process.
ntblood Posted August 19, 2014 Author Posted August 19, 2014 OMG! tried the other suggestion, a new game, and it works!! wow, finally after a year tryingThank you!I still want to know if Sexlabs is installed properly now (If I have to reinstall it like you described).
Ashal Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 If it works in a new game than there's no need the extra log, the problem is what I said it was. Just disable all SexLab mods and save your game with them disabled, re-enable SexLab.esm, load your game, wait for SexLab to finish installing, save your game again, then start adding other SexLab mods you want to use. This would be the "quick and dirty" method of doing a clean save.
ntblood Posted August 19, 2014 Author Posted August 19, 2014 Oh.. Ok. So I do need to uninstall sexlabs framework only, then save, then re-install sexlabs framework then I guess.Here is the log of an alternate start for 6+ minutes. It looks like there are some errors.** Does this mean that after I do that process than my old saved game is going to be better with sexlabs or do you think that saved game is phook-ed?
Ashal Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 None of those errors are sexlab related, all the lines from sexlab in that are reporting success on various actions. That's still a lot of errors from other mods though, you should really consider removing the mods causing them, Estrus, iHud (those errors are all from the new version beta if I remember right), Cloud Layer/Volumetric Clouds (can't remember which adds CloudLayerScript). I'd strongly suggest disabling Estrus at the very least as it's one of the biggest offenders.
ntblood Posted August 19, 2014 Author Posted August 19, 2014 So estrus is just a bad mod for having a clean running game I guess. Small bummer. Now that sexlabs is working estrus could fall by the way-side. (If I ever wanted to use that mod I guess I could install it, not use any newly created saves long-term, and then uninstall going back to my previous saved game I suppose.) It's weird because I thought that was a relatively up-to-date version of estrus I thought it would be better. iHud's new beta version, 3.0b3, is a bad one too. Is the previous iHud beta, 3.0b2, less error inducing do you know off-hand? Before that it was iHud 2.4, released Aug.2013.Is there a good replacement for iHud as that's the mod that hides the compass and UI, which I like for immersion/a clean look.I just googled CloudLayerScript and it seems to be Real Clouds as I suspected.Thank you
Dubhorizon Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 If you look at Fnis consistency check while having estrus installed you will get a lot of errors related to estrus. When I tried the mod I never encountered any problems or CTD though.
ntblood Posted August 19, 2014 Author Posted August 19, 2014 Ok, thanks.Here is my "follow-up" papyrus log running a new game. Still looks like a lot of errors I guess.I removed realClouds, estrus, and installed the previous iHud beta 3.0b2.I'm hoping you will take one more look, Ashal or anyone.Ashal, do I understand correctly that I don't need to re-install sexlabs because it was working properly in the previous papyrus log I gather?
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