best way to merging mods?

[Lord Ariakas]

Hi all,

 

I tried several times to merge some or all of my mods together, first with wyre smash (but that is just merging several mods together what it is thinks it's mergeable.)

Then I tried to use tessedit, but somewhere I made a mistake and all of my mods became corrupted.

Also when I just reinstalled them the created patch didn't work.

 

But once and ever again I hit the 255 mod limit and it is became really annoying because there are lot of good small mods there but I can't use them because all I can think of is like this mod is worth the space?

 

If I could breach the limit, then...

 

What do you think which is the easiest (and working )way to merge some or all of the mods into one esp?

[Nergui]

First, get this -

TES5Edit

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25859/?

and this

 

Plugin script for TES5Edit to merge mods.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37981/?

 

Turorial for use in plugin description.

[Lord Ariakas]

This is what I tried.

So this is works for you?

There is no easier way?

I think this was the one what didn't work for me...

[Nergui]

Were you uisng the merge script that came with TES5Edit? If so, that one isn't so good. The one I linked does a far better job of merging mods.

[germanicus]

I'm using the Wrye bash patch program and it does a great job of merging files for me.

[Lord Ariakas]

Ok, thanks tonight I will give it a try. This plugin seems capable:)

[Lord Ariakas]

Yay....thank you so much.

Yesterday I merged a whole lot, I could reduce my esps with 20.

However when I tried to merge followers, all the overhaul mods(beautiful followers) worked fine, but standalone followers like Sara the mystic knight, zt followers and skymaidens or whatever got messed up.

They turned up ingame but their head was more dark and their face was ugly.

I checked, no BSAs. It is looks like an ECE error, but why?

[germanicus]

Sky maidens come with In game body changer: UNP / CBBE Standard package,CBBE BBP / SeveNBase BombShell BBP package,ADEC BBP / UNP Blessed BBP package,CBBE Slim / Dream Girl package...there is possibility that your body mesh doesn't correspond with the mods and base body, so Wrye can't merge them properly. Wrye also have error check possibility as Tes5edit, so you can check your mods with it. I have several different custom made followers with various body types (all ranges of UNP) bodies, and Wrye did a great job for me.

 

Listen, I'm sorry, I know what I want to say, I just do not know how. My English is limited as terminology in this area. So all this what I'm saying maybe doesn't have a sense to you. Maybe you can post your problem under a new thread?

[Killikrates~2014]

Not all mod are happy being merged with the TES5Edit merge script. Avoid mods that are required by other mods as dependencies (Mod Organizer will show this in the load order pane, LOOT will tell you after the merge once you disable the plugin). Avoid mods with MCM menus as merging may cause the menu not to be available. Absolutely avoid merging mods that edit the same NavData as holes in Skyrim and general weirness will ensue.

The error check option in TES5Edit won't detect properly unless you exit TES5Edit and the relaunch the editor loading just the new merged plugin and then selecting check for errors.

Here's a list of my current merged patches as an example of mods that are playing nice with each;

 

Early Order Mods;
Moss Rocks
Beards
Disease Descriptions
Better Dynamic Snow
Ash Rocks
Chesko Lore-based Loading Screens
Correct Gender Animations DG
Neutral Hjerim
Disease Descriptions DB
ORM Arvak
Animated Weapon Enchants
DG Rune Weapon FX Replacer
Brows
Dragon Shout Voice
Disease Descriptions DG
Clams Drop Pearls
Moss Rocks DB
Physics Impact Damage Fix
Symphonies of Skyrim
Arrow Duration 60
True Eyes
No Combat Boundaries Legendary
Open Container
SG Eyebrows
Sulfur Rocks
Webs Extended
Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge
Humans Drop Human Parts
IHSS

Middle Order Mods;
Better White Phial Effect
Soul Gems Differ
Random Thunder
Skyrim Coin Replacer Redux
Understone Keep Repairs
RV Markers
Correct Gender Animations DB
Correct Gender Animations
BOYD
Solsteim The Lost Levels
SPT Consistent Older People
Diverse Priests
Diverse Priests BOYD patch
Diverse Priests COP patch
Height Adjusted Races w/ True Giants
XCES
PP Ogmund's Tomb

Late Order Mods;
Dawn of Riften
Beautiful Whiterun
Daggercross Alley
Legendary Companion Perk
Dungeon Quest Awareness
Better City Entrances
Snowbound Acres
dD No Spinning Death Animation
Blessings Altar Descriptions
Pilgrims Delight
The Paarthurnax Dilemma
Oblivion Black Soul Gem Creation
High Hrothgar Overhaul
Sword of Sigdan
Block Sparkles
Gildergreen Regrown
PP Windcaller Pass
PP Engelmann Rest
RBB Row Boats HF Hotfix

ACE Complete SPO SSR patch Merged;
Smithing Perks Overhaul Remade
ACE Archery Dragonborn
ACE Archery
ACE Armor
ACE BYOG
ACE Enchanting
ACE Magic
ACE Melee
ACE Realistic Fighting
ACE Smithing
ACE Speech
ACE Synergy
SSR ACE Armor Patch

Alternate Start Complete Cooking Expansion;
Cooking Expanded DB
Campfire Cooking
Campfire Cooking - Alchemy
Cooking Expanded
Cooking Expanded HF
Cooking Alchemy
Campfire Cooking - DB
Campfire Cooking - DG
Alternate Start - Live Another Life
Campfire Cooking - Live Another Life
Helgen Imperial Armory

AOS Patches;
AOS FIO patch
AOS EBT patch
AOS W&C patch
AOS RWT2 patch
AOS GDO patch
AOS WAF patch
AOS DCOdb patch

Armory Merged;
Insanity's Sorrow.esp
DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
skyforgedWeapons.esp
GladiatorArmor.esp
calyps-bosmer.esp
haebonyblade1handed.esp
ebonymaillight.esp
executionerarmor.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
AethEbonyCrownReplacer.esp
Third Era - Dwemer.esp
lefthandrings - dawnguard.esp
lefthandrings.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
BosmerArmorMATY743.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
Insanity's Shields.esp
ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
isilNarsil.esp
skyforgedShields.esp
SniperBowPack.esp
Elemental Staves.esp
JetDwemerBows_DG.esp
Insanity's Chrysamere.esp
Insanity's Umbra Sword.esp
Insanity's Empire Longswords.esp
FunctionalBags.esp
TS_Whipcane.esp

ELE EDWS RS Merged;
ELE-Spell and Torch Lighting.esp
Relighting Skyrim - Update.esp
RelightingSkyrim.esp
Relighting Skyrim - Dawnguard.esp
Relighting Skyrim - HearthFire.esp
Relighting Skyrim - Dragonborn.esp
ELE-FX Emittance.esp
ELE HF-Interior Lighting.esp
ELE-Interior Lighting.esp
ELE DG-Interior Lighting.esp
ELE DB-Interior Lighting.esp
ELE-Weathers.esp
ELE Dragonborn-Weathers.esp
enhanceddynamicweathersystem.esp
ELE-Imagespaces.esp

ETaC Complete BFT Merged;
BFT Ships & Carriages
ETaC Complete BFT patch

ETaC Complete Inns and Taverns Merged
Inns and Taverns
ETaC Complete Taverns patch

ETaC Complete Plaguesword Merged;
FH Plaguesword
ETaC Complete Plaguesword patch

ETaC Complete Merged;
ETaC Complete EWDR patch
ETaC Complete LoS patch
Hearthfire Chimneys ETaC

Hroldan Complete Merged;
Hroldan Nightgate Sawmill
Ravenscar Village

ISC Merged Patches;
ISCompendium AOS Patch
ISCompendium CCO Patch
ISCompendium EBT Patch

Lakeview Merged;
HF Lakeview Avant Garden Performance
Lights Lakeview Manor
Llewellyn Female
Lakeview Manor Fish Hatchery

New Lands Merged;
Skyfalls DB FS Small Waterfalls
Skyfalls Skymills DG DB FS WT
RBB Long & Row Boats New Lands
Falskaar Wildlife
RW2 Waves WT
RW2 Waves FS
Hearthfire Chimneys Falskaar
Falskaar Clouds
bhabhilon

TK ETaC FS Merged;
ETaC Complete TK Children patch
PNP TK Patch
TK Children V
Falskaar TK patch
TK Children DB
TK Children HF

Wardrobe UNP Expanded;
UNP Fence Net Body Set
Test Merida
Aradia Kato Outfit
SOS Equipable
Scarlet Dawn Armor
Mashup UNP
UNP Leather Cami and Shorts
el Gilded Doublet Set
Tavern Clothes MTM
UNP Academy Dropout
UNP Black Vinyl
UNP Smithy Sex
UNP Snap up Booty Shorts and Top
UNP Boots 02
UNP Boots 04
UNP Leather Clothes
Calyps Investigator
Light Blades Armor
Black Sacrament Armor DB Replacer
Lady of Death
Black Sacrament Armor (ACE Patched)
Bouncy Bodices Booties Belts Stockings

 

[mezzoforte]

Yay....thank you so much.

Yesterday I merged a whole lot, I could reduce my esps with 20.

However when I tried to merge followers, all the overhaul mods(beautiful followers) worked fine, but standalone followers like Sara the mystic knight, zt followers and skymaidens or whatever got messed up.

They turned up ingame but their head was more dark and their face was ugly.

I checked, no BSAs. It is looks like an ECE error, but why?

Taking a guess here since I haven't used the merging script for TESVEDit myself yet, but your face problem sounds like a facegeom/facetint issue.

 

If the merged esp has a new name, you might need to move the tint and meshfiles from their old locations to the new one.

 

like move/copy the .dds from

D:\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\Textures\Actors\character\facegendata\facetint\cerwidencompanion.esp

 

to a new folder with your merged esp as the foldername

 

D:\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\Textures\Actors\character\facegendata\facetint\"Merged ESP Name".esp

 

for the face tints.

 

and move/copy the .nif from

 

D:\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\Meshes\Actors\character\FaceGenData\Facegeom\CerwidenCompanion.esp

 

to a new folder with your merged esp as the foldername

 

D:\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\Meshes\Actors\character\FaceGenData\Facegeom\"Merged ESP Name".esp

 

for the meshes.

 

I'm guessing the new merged esps are looking for the NPC head meshes and face tints but don't know they're still in their old folders.

[Lord Ariakas]

Thank you Killikrates, yes I tried to avoid mods with MCM script or same worldspace edit. All of my merged mods working fine so far, and I am really cautious.

 

Your list...Wow, this was helpful.

Thank you.All the mods in one section means that is a single merged patch?

 

Also relight skyrim all files can be merged? I will give it a go.

 

Germanicus : Thanks, I can understand you perfectly, no worries. Your english is very good.

Yeah maybe the ingame body changer messed the things up, but Victoria and zt followers doesn't have anything like that.

[Lord Ariakas]

 

Yay....thank you so much.

Yesterday I merged a whole lot, I could reduce my esps with 20.

However when I tried to merge followers, all the overhaul mods(beautiful followers) worked fine, but standalone followers like Sara the mystic knight, zt followers and skymaidens or whatever got messed up.

They turned up ingame but their head was more dark and their face was ugly.

I checked, no BSAs. It is looks like an ECE error, but why?

 

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What is that?

[mezzoforte]

 

 

Yay....thank you so much.

Yesterday I merged a whole lot, I could reduce my esps with 20.

However when I tried to merge followers, all the overhaul mods(beautiful followers) worked fine, but standalone followers like Sara the mystic knight, zt followers and skymaidens or whatever got messed up.

They turned up ingame but their head was more dark and their face was ugly.

I checked, no BSAs. It is looks like an ECE error, but why?

 

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What is that?

 

 

Sorry bout that, internet connection was acting up. Corrected my post above which might help with fixing your custom npc faces and face tints

[Lord Ariakas]

Thanks Mezzoforte, yeah it sounds right, I will give it a go.

It is a bit complicated as I am using MO, but I will try to create a new folder:)

[mezzoforte]

Thanks Mezzoforte, yeah it sounds right, I will give it a go.

It is a bit complicated as I am using MO, but I will try to create a new folder:)

 

 Oh MO, yeah that sounds a bit more complicated. You might need to create the new folders in the same location as where your merged esp and related files exist(?)

 

good luck with fixing that face mesh/tint problem.

[germanicus]

Metaton - Now I understand why some yours followers can't be merged as suppose in Wrye bash. Wrye and MO doesn't cooperate so well as Wrye and NMM, and I'm using NMM since MO is very complicated for me.

[Killikrates~2014]

Yes, I grouped mods either into logical groups (like Expanded Towns and Cities so I can re-merge with each frequent update) or by load order (early, middle, late to help LOOT keep them sorted). If you read up on TES5Edit you can do additional conflict resolution, carry forward changes despite LOOT order, and probably cut the number of merged plugins to one or two (that's still a work in progress for me, I need to study more).

[Lord Ariakas]

Metaton - Now I understand why some yours followers can't be merged as suppose in Wrye bash. Wrye and MO doesn't cooperate so well as Wrye and NMM, and I'm using NMM since MO is very complicated for me.

For merging purposes I am using tess5edit not wyre.

Wyre is just for creating bashed patch.

[Lord Ariakas]

Yeah I can see you have 30% same content as me.

So I will use those mods as a solid base (because you already merged them so they are "safe" and try to wrap my other mods around them.

[Lord Ariakas]

Thank you guys for everyone.

I just created a merged package with 13 mods in it. I checked all ingame. All working fine.

So with this method I think I created at least 30 free space on top of my existing 255 mods.

Thank you very much...now I can start looking for new mods, I think my problem is solved.

[germanicus]

Metaton - glad to hear that. Enjoy.