chuckdm Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 So...after looking over the massive ton of things included in SD+, I've elected not to try it. However, one thing I'd really, really like to see is the "Slave Master as a Follower" idea from SD+ made into its own mod. That's all. Just a NPC follower who acts as a Slave PC's master/owner. That is, the PC would be able to ask any "affluent" NPC (like Nazeem and the like, named NPCs that have both routines and money) if they could become their Slave. With enough "convincing" the affluent NPC would agree to this. The NPC would then go about their normal routine and expect the PC to follow them around. If the PC was to oversleep, stray too much, etc, they'd be punished accordingly. The NPC would occasionally allow their friends to use the PC for fun, etc, but otherwise would stick to their vanilla schedule. Also, integration with DD would be amazing. Specifically, it'd be really nice if the NPC/Master would squeeze inflatable plugs or (if the NPC is a mage) cast soul gem plug triggering spells under certain conditions. This could also vary with the type of plug and the PC's behavior. For example, with a normal gem plug, this might be a reward. But if a PC is disobeying frequently, they might be given a training plug instead, where the casting quickly becomes a punishment. Anyhow, it'd just be nice to have a mod like this without all the extra death-related things in SD+. Any chance someone might do this? Or is maybe already doing this in secret?
carnifex Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 SD+ is supposed to feature "master as follower" functionality in the foreseeable future. "A Prostitution and Player Slavery Mod" team is working on releasing a fully functional Dom follower as a standalone mod to test out their slavery framework functionality before moving on to implementing more robust slavery-related quests and storylines. Mygoodnes777 is working on yet another slavery framework, and he plans to release a Dom follower mod by the end of July. Here's the thread: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/29718-wip-skyrim-slavery-returns/ While not exactly what you ask for, Captured Dreams Shop is supposed to feature a full enslavement scenario where you become a slave to Master and have to play the rest of the game with restrictions stemming from that. And that would be the rough rundown of related projects in the works right now. Nothing currently has what you want, but the future is looking quite bright to us BDSM lovers
Alva Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 So...after looking over the massive ton of things included in SD+, I've elected not to try it. However, one thing I'd really, really like to see is the "Slave Master as a Follower" idea from SD+ made into its own mod. That's all. Just a NPC follower who acts as a Slave PC's master/owner. That is, the PC would be able to ask any "affluent" NPC (like Nazeem and the like, named NPCs that have both routines and money) if they could become their Slave. With enough "convincing" the affluent NPC would agree to this. The NPC would then go about their normal routine and expect the PC to follow them around. If the PC was to oversleep, stray too much, etc, they'd be punished accordingly. The NPC would occasionally allow their friends to use the PC for fun, etc, but otherwise would stick to their vanilla schedule. Also, integration with DD would be amazing. Specifically, it'd be really nice if the NPC/Master would squeeze inflatable plugs or (if the NPC is a mage) cast soul gem plug triggering spells under certain conditions. This could also vary with the type of plug and the PC's behavior. For example, with a normal gem plug, this might be a reward. But if a PC is disobeying frequently, they might be given a training plug instead, where the casting quickly becomes a punishment. Anyhow, it'd just be nice to have a mod like this without all the extra death-related things in SD+. Any chance someone might do this? Or is maybe already doing this in secret? I've been toying with this idea for a while - making it based on your follower/companion so it could be more or less generic (think mSexVeronica from New Vegas, but generic), but currently still lack the ability to actually implement much concrete and I keep coming up short when trying to put things together. I have a schema of things I'd like to do (initial phase, on going phase, possible exit phase mapped out in large features plus additional later larger scale event and even which mods I'd like to integrate with, DD being an obvious one) - but whether it'll be anything of substance prior to one of the more experienced modders get it into their mod(s) - that I cannot promise. I need to dedicate some more time to figuring out how to actually get started with modding before I can make much headway. So I know it's not really what you'd want to hear just now you're not alone in wanting to see something like that. And well - hopefully I'll get something running myself or one of the experienced modders can cover it in theirs.
chuckdm Posted June 30, 2014 Author Posted June 30, 2014 SD+ is supposed to feature "master as follower" functionality in the foreseeable future. "A Prostitution and Player Slavery Mod" team is working on releasing a fully functional Dom follower as a standalone mod to test out their slavery framework functionality before moving on to implementing more robust slavery-related quests and storylines. Mygoodnes777 is working on yet another slavery framework, and he plans to release a Dom follower mod by the end of July. Here's the thread: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/29718-wip-skyrim-slavery-returns/ While not exactly what you ask for, Captured Dreams Shop is supposed to feature a full enslavement scenario where you become a slave to Master and have to play the rest of the game with restrictions stemming from that. And that would be the rough rundown of related projects in the works right now. Nothing currently has what you want, but the future is looking quite bright to us BDSM lovers So in other words, this is totally going to happen at least once, it's just a matter of when and which mod will get there first? Ok, cool. I can be patient, I was just unaware that anything aside from SD+ had this functionality (even "in progress") so I figured I'd throw it out there. And I don't really need for it to be attachable to any affluent NPC, that was just an idea that made logical sense. If it applies to only a single NPC - even a new, non-vanilla one - I'm fine with that. The idea is just to have a SD-like Master system but without the immortality/death-related things in SD. Think something like the Alicia mod but in reverse. That's what I'm looking for. Oh and nothing against SD, it's just not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for more along the lines of voluntary player enslavement, rather than combat-triggered enslavement. In an unrelated query...is there any mod that makes the PC not be the Dragonborn? I mean, a mod that simply disables the main quest and makes the number of dragons already set at a mid-late game level, where you can still kill them, but no soul absorbing, no shouts, etc? Just wondering because if/when we get a working Master follower mod, it's gong to be strange that I'm still this epic superhero of legend and yet I'm voluntarily agreeing to be a slave. It'd make so much more sense of my player simply wasn't Dragonborn.
carnifex Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Oh and nothing against SD, it's just not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for more along the lines of voluntary player enslavement, rather than combat-triggered enslavement. This is actually possible in SD+, as long as you have a collar around your neck, you can approach NPCs and ask them to enslave you. While the current version seems to have a problem with it, it is theoretically possible to become enslaved by a follower already. Problems being, there's not much to do like that, and the limitations of SD slavery make it impossible to pass some quests while enslaved. In an unrelated query...is there any mod that makes the PC not be the Dragonborn? I mean, a mod that simply disables the main quest and makes the number of dragons already set at a mid-late game level, where you can still kill them, but no soul absorbing, no shouts, etc? Just wondering because if/when we get a working Master follower mod, it's gong to be strange that I'm still this epic superhero of legend and yet I'm voluntarily agreeing to be a slave. It'd make so much more sense of my player simply wasn't Dragonborn. Try Alternate Start - Live Another Life or Skyrim Unbound. Both let you choose where you start the game. In LAL, you get a quest to go check out what's going on in Helgen, and as long as you ignore it, the main storyline will never kick in and the dragons will never show up at all. SU simply lets you choose whether you want the main storyline to feature at all in the game. I don't think there's any mod that leaves dragons intact but forgoes the part where you're the Dragonborn.
DeepBlueFrog Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 That's what I am slowly working on changing SD into (along with death alternative scenarios... sorry ). I have a whole system of NPC tasks and needs planned out, to make enslavement by an NPC less boring, as well as perks such as different slavery outfits based on factions (and eventually, configurable). Unfortunately, between stupid ghost issues with CK editor, distractions from my other mods and RL events that need attention, this is taking longer than I thought, but I am still making progress.
Vuulgar Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 I have been looking for a mod to make my follower more aggressive toward the PC for a long time, so many sounded like they may work (Lovers Victim, Animal Sex, Approach, Horny Follower works great but its only when you ask them to show their inventory once a day) I wanted it to work more from something such as Aroused to trigger...not totally random and do bad things beyond the players control, murder and rob travelers and hunters, steal and rape, use Devices, a bad guy with some power over the dovakhin or must be kept around for some ultimate purpose. I had just started doing some reading and tutorials to hopefully learn how to do this or at least try to make a follower that will bang your brains out whenever they want hehe. It would be great if some genius who knew what he was doing would make a mod like this that would work with any follower and have MCM configurables for crimes (evil slider), you could call it Necessary Evil...
Ashra XIII Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 In terms of not being the Dragonborn, I've found that Skyrim Unbound is your best bet, because you can actually toggle off soul absorption and word walls so that you cannot get shouts at all, while still having dragons flying around the game right from the beginning of the game. Also, if you do want to be the Dragonborn, you awaken your power by absorbing your first soul just like in the vanilla game, but it can be any dragon in the game, and not just the one attacking the tower outside Whiterun. I really like it.
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 I have been looking for a mod to make my follower more aggressive toward the PC for a long time, so many sounded like they may work (Lovers Victim, Animal Sex, Approach, Horny Follower works great but its only when you ask them to show their inventory once a day) I wanted it to work more from something such as Aroused to trigger...not totally random and do bad things beyond the players control, murder and rob travelers and hunters, steal and rape, use Devices, a bad guy with some power over the dovakhin or must be kept around for some ultimate purpose. I had just started doing some reading and tutorials to hopefully learn how to do this or at least try to make a follower that will bang your brains out whenever they want hehe. It would be great if some genius who knew what he was doing would make a mod like this that would work with any follower and have MCM configurables for crimes (evil slider), you could call it Necessary Evil... Best tutorial I know of regarding making custom followers - http://deck16.net/post/22645519500/making-a-unique-voiced-follower-in-skyrim-part-1 What you are describing sounds like an interesting extension to Alicia (who already does things outside the control of the player as a follower). I will keep that idea in mind when I go back to working on my favorite follower.
Alva Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 <snip> Just wondering because if/when we get a working Master follower mod, it's gong to be strange that I'm still this epic superhero of legend and yet I'm voluntarily agreeing to be a slave. It'd make so much more sense of my player simply wasn't Dragonborn. My take on that would be that even powerful people could be submissive in relationships
chuckdm Posted July 2, 2014 Author Posted July 2, 2014 Thanks for the nudge towards Skyrim Unbound guys, that looks to be configurable into what I was looking for on that front, i.e. dragons without PC dragonborn. Probably going to go ahead and use it now. I've always used LAL but I'm OCD so I can't make myself just "ignore the quest." This looks like a solution though skyrimll, just wondering: mayhaps a global toggle in the MCM for SD+ that disables Sanguine would do what I'm asking for? I mean it seems like SD+ is so heavily integrated into Death Alternative that might neuter it entirely but...idk, somewhere down the road once you get all the voluntary enslavement stuff finished, please consider a toggle for the death-related content. Like I said, I don't hate it or anything. It's just more than what I really want to...to "deal with" for lack of a better way to phrase it. And yes, like I said, I'm basically looking for something like Alicia in reverse, i.e. follower is the Dom while player is the Sub. For all I know this might be the easiest path, just modifying Alicia. Sadly I know nothing about papyrus/scripting (I can fumble my way through CK enough to do basic armor edits and make minor changes in Nifskope, little more.) Though if nothing is still here in a couple months I might try to learn
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Death Alternate is a master to SD, so I cannot disable it completely but you can already tone down the death related content considerably. Just disable the quests and events in Death Alternative that you do not want to see. That includes visits to Sanguine. The only visit you would get is on sleep occasionally. You can also disable inventory transfer to Dreamworld with the Limited Item removal option.
Vuulgar Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 I have been looking for a mod to make my follower more aggressive toward the PC for a long time, so many sounded like they may work (Lovers Victim, Animal Sex, Approach, Horny Follower works great but its only when you ask them to show their inventory once a day) I wanted it to work more from something such as Aroused to trigger...not totally random and do bad things beyond the players control, murder and rob travelers and hunters, steal and rape, use Devices, a bad guy with some power over the dovakhin or must be kept around for some ultimate purpose. I had just started doing some reading and tutorials to hopefully learn how to do this or at least try to make a follower that will bang your brains out whenever they want hehe. It would be great if some genius who knew what he was doing would make a mod like this that would work with any follower and have MCM configurables for crimes (evil slider), you could call it Necessary Evil... Best tutorial I know of regarding making custom followers - http://deck16.net/post/22645519500/making-a-unique-voiced-follower-in-skyrim-part-1 What you are describing sounds like an interesting extension to Alicia (who already does things outside the control of the player as a follower). I will keep that idea in mind when I go back to working on my favorite follower. Excellent, thank you for the info, I have just started a game with Alicia, shes been great so far and I love SD+ so I owe you thanks for some fun mods. I love the way DA works and would love to see more scenarios long, medium and short in length. Variety while keeping the game rolling is spectacular. I have made the basic follower, 2 actually, for this experiment, the one I am sure I will end up using is a male orc for a female PC, named Vuulgar of course.
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