Guest Jack Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 So basically I have followed many tutorials on how to install HDT, but none of them worked for me. I always had CTD after loading a save file or started a new game. I couldn't get into to a game. After loading screen it crashed. Main reason is that SKSE loads hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll and it crashes. If I delete every HDT file from SKSE plugins folder and just keep the HDT esm and esp file it works like a charm. Same thing was with "HDT Body 1.4", "HDT All_in_One 1-3 Update Version 1-3" This is a list of tutorials I have followed but none of them didn't help. 1. http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/974-havok-breast-physic-xml-files-for-beginners-video-addet/ 2. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28507-how-to-install-hdt-step-1-click-this-an-overly-descriptive-tutorial/ 3. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25482-setup-step-by-step-setup-basics-for-hdt-physics-extension/ 4. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22938-add-hdt-breast-collision-physics-to-all-your-armor-with-just-1-armor/page-2 I have tried all of them. I tried combining them, but still it crashed. I have the latest SKSE. I tried installing hdt-physics-extension-v10-24-stable and hdt-physics-extension-v1428-latest, but none of them worked. I installed these as the skeleton: http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/676-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/ I used bodyslide for creating a CBBE body. I have tried using this body http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/4888/? and some UNB body, didn't help at all. All xml files were in the SKSE Plugins folder. Here is a screenshot of my SKSE plugins folder, character assets folder and character assets female folder. Here is a list of my Nexus mod manager mods. GameMode=SkyrimSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1SexLab.esm=1SexLabAroused.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1ApachiiHairMales.esm=1AzarHair.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1Night Eye Overhaul.esm=1ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1ETaC - RESOURCES.esm=1Havok Breast Physic.esm=0SGHairPackBase.esm=1HDT Havok Object.esp=1HighResTexturePack01.esp=0HighResTexturePack02.esp=0HighResTexturePack03.esp=0Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1SMPC.esp=1Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1FNISspells.esp=1dd - realistic ragdoll force - realistic.esp=1Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1portal2mod.esp=1Angel.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp=1UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp=1The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp=1amazingfollowertweaks.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1RaceMenuOverlays.esp=1ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp=1ASX_Spells.esp=1ASX_Potions.esp=1Havok Breast Physic.esp=0Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp=0Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp=0ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp=1SGHairPack01.esp=1SGHairPack02.esp=1SGHairPack03.esp=1SGHairPack04.esp=1SGHairPack05.esp=1SGHairPack06.esp=1Fh hairs-by zzjay.esp=1Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1SoS - Civilization.esp=1SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp=1Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp=1BHWarPaints.esp=1TSFemaleWarPaints.esp=1LiFEv1.1.esp=1xvisionchildren.esp=1YChildren of the Sky.esp=1SexLab_DibellaCult.esp=1NPC_Overhaul_1_3_.esp=1Delphine Makeover.esp=1Ysolda.esp=1rainbows.esp=1StripNPCs.esp=1RevampedExteriorFog.esp=1canalhome.esp=1splashofrain.esp=1Blackout_Skyrim.esp=1Blackout_Dawnguard.esp=1wetandcold.esp=1wetandcold - ashes.esp=1fantasy music overhaul.esp=1fantasy music overhaul - no vanilla music.esp=1fantasy music overhaul - unique town music.esp=1hdplants+herbs.esp=1NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp=1lt_camping.esp=1argonianmercarmor.esp=1aassassinscraftables.esp=1Aradia Lingerie Dress.esp=1BlackSacramentArmor.esp=1darkseraticheavyarmor.esp=1dbarrows.esp=1dbbownogloss.esp=1dbdagger.esp=1dbsword.esp=1DHuntress.esp=1EternalShineArmorAndWeapons.esp=1Fgems Skimpy Armor Set.esp=1Field Mage Outfit.esp=1FlameAtronachArmor.esp=1FullBootForKKSA.esp=1grayseraticheavyarmor.esp=1highric Armor.esp=1HuntressArmor.esp=1listernersarmorset.esp=1Neo's Oriental Dress.esp=1nightshade_armor.esp=1SuccubusCBBE3GiftByNausicaa.esp=1WestWindAssault.esp=1yangyang_SavageArmor.esp=1dragonbridgelights.esp=0bettercitiesnewfarm.esp=0bettercitiesjarlshouses.esp=0bettercitiesmorebees.esp=0bettercitiesdocksolitude.esp=0betterdawnstar.esp=0betterinns.esp=0bettermarkarthexterieur.esp=0bettermorthal.esp=0betterwinterhold.esp=0enhancedhighhrothgarbymat.esp=1fortwinstad.esp=0fortheljarchen.esp=0markarth_plus.esp=1helgenrebuilt.esp=0garrettsretreat_v02a.esp=0hg.esp=1the void walker.esp=0voidLetsGetNaked.esp=1whiterunexenhanced.esp=0whiteruninenhanced.esp=0armored-horses.esp=1faster vanilla horses.esp=1unreadbooksglow.esp=1betterravenrock.esp=1riverwoodenhancedplugin.esp=1taveriften.esp=1tavesolitude.esp=1tavewindhelm.esp=1tavevillages.esp=0tavefalkreath.esp=1bearmusicianeng.esp=1Amanda.esp=1LC2013.esp=1Lyla.esp=1Michelle.esp=1Misha.esp=1purewaters.esp=1kkdrbreplacer.esp=1armor of the assassin.esp=1regnpiercings.esp=1thereserve_v2.esp=1bee.esp=1betterfire.esp=1chillrend_armor.esp=0marchanditinerant.esp=1mavari armor.esp=1mm01 open inventory.esp=1newplaceddawnguard.esp=1newplacehermaeusshrine.esp=1KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp=1KKSDrBWeightFix.esp=1KKFur.esp=1smarter combat ai.esp=1item recycling.esp=1scribe scroll.esp=1c35Silmeriagirl002.esp=1QBlade Echidna.esp=1snake.esp=1ResortBeach.esp=1ladyflirt.esp=1Corrupter TBBP.esp=1Lara Croft 2013.esp=1LadyBlood.esp=1TeraArmorCollection.esp=1Falmer Darkseeker.esp=1blackwidow.esp=1Aeri.esp=1Krooman-Jenassa.esp=1Krooman-Lydia.esp=1Krooman-Saadia.esp=1purposeful guards.esp=1nyyrikki.esp=1BHTNF.esp=1n7armor.esp=1SED7-CBBE3-BM_SILVEREDITION_NipplePiercing_Rings.esp=1SED7-CBBE3-BM_GOLDEDITION_NipplePiercing_Rings.esp=1SED7-CBBE3-BM_UNIEDITION_Nipplewand.esp=1SED7-CBBE3_SILVEREDITION_femaleLabiaPiercings.esp=1SED7-CBBE3_UNIEDITIONfemaleNipplePiercing_SwordNShield.esp=1SED7-CBBE3_GOLDEDITION_Barbell.esp=1SED7-CBBE3_GOLDEDITION_femaleLabiaPiercings.esp=1UnblockActivateNoWereNoMap.esp=1NewmillerPiercings2.esp=1NewmillerPiercings3.esp=1Predator Vision.esp=1UltraVision.esp=1unlimited amulets and rings 0.1.esp=1Mannequin.esp=1DAWN 1.esp=1AsharaErinFollower.esp=1Krooman-Irileth.esp=1BVLT - Human.esp=1BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp=1zzEDialog.esp=1barenziahquestmarkers.esp=1impatienceofasaint-markers.esp=1Brothers.esp=101VampireNoDirtTintmask.esp=1Better Vampires.esp=1Vampire Eyes - Normal Race.esp=1Skyrim Unbound.esp=1Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1NEO Persistent Spell.esp=1NEO Tint 6.esp=1Night Eye Overhaul.esp=1Futa equippable.esp=1SexLab Romance.esp=1SexLabDefeat.esp=1SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1SexLabZaZAnimations.esp=1SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1SexWithThieves.esp=1BarbarianExplorer.esp=1EdhildilsWitchDoctor.esp=1GDZZJJDH.esp=1Hirl Craftable.esp=1MK 9 Jade Armor.esp=1Osare Culort Outfit.esp=1TrissArmorRetextured.esp=1better dialogue controls.esp=1CharGen Morphs.esp=13DNPC.esp=1CampingKitNorthernRanger - Without Amberwood.esp=1FarEastChristmas.esp=1Fireworks.esp=1HolidayUnderwear and Apparel.esp=1SexLab Frostfall.esp=1SexLab_Hormones.esp=1SkyrimToyStory.esp=1EbonySkullArmor.esp=1vImmersiveBeds.esp=1Sylgja.esp=1Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp=1Witch Of The Wild.esp=1NewmCBBELO1.esp=1Cleric Armours.esp=1Osare HotPants.esp=1NewVampChainsCuirass.esp=1ColdharbourDaedra.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=0ETaC - Complete.esp=1ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp=1ETaC - Complete HF Patch.esp=1ETaC - Smelters.esp=1HeavyMetal.esp=1DoomedValkyrie.esp=1MicroBikini.esp=1MicroBikini Topless.esp=1MicroBikini Bottomless.esp=1Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1 So does anyone know why HDT extenstion files in the SKSE plugins folder causes CTD and how can I fix it ?
Khe Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 I can't help other than to say "just uninstall it", really. whenever I have HDT physics installed there it causes CTD on exit, which is a pain. as for it working 'fine' with just the plugin/esm...it isn't 'working', as I believe the dll is required for breast bounce. if someone does find a solution, i'd love it, because right now i'm living with a non-bouncy chest...which is odd because once upon a time I had it working.
b00marrows Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 crash after loading... AND new game???can't be HDT as it wont even be loaded in a new game... right? (default is set to male/nord so nothing will be loaded)If It Is HDT than the log file "hdtphisiceextention.log" should point to the issue. a crash after loading screen SCREAMS missing files to me and most likely player related like a skeleton or model
Guest Jack Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Is your RaceMenu updated? No it's 2.1.4. But it doesnt let me even in the game, Are they still connected somehow ? crash after loading... AND new game??? can't be HDT as it wont even be loaded in a new game... right? (default is set to male/nord so nothing will be loaded) If It Is HDT than the log file "hdtphisiceextention.log" should point to the issue. a crash after loading screen SCREAMS missing files to me and most likely player related like a skeleton or model I have this alternate start mod, which I used since the beginning of my save files. Maybe I have uninstalled it. Can't find in the active mods list. In log file I saw last message "SKSEPlugin_Load" or and when I used this tutorial http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22938-add-hdt-breast-collision-physics-to-all- your-armor-with-just-1-armor/page-2 then it said as a last line that it loaded hdtCBBE.xml from its location and thats it. Haven't seen more message after these two. If i am using default beginning. Remember it has to load female guards/npc, right ?
Groovtama Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Is your RaceMenu updated? No it's 2.1.4. But it doesnt let me even in the game, Are they still connected somehow ? crash after loading... AND new game???can't be HDT as it wont even be loaded in a new game... right? (default is set to male/nord so nothing will be loaded)If It Is HDT than the log file "hdtphisiceextention.log" should point to the issue. a crash after loading screen SCREAMS missing files to me and most likely player related like a skeleton or model I have this alternate start mod, which I used since the beginning of my save files. Maybe I have uninstalled it. Can't find in the active mods list.in log file I saw last message "Loading SKSE menu" or something like that and when I used this tutorial http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22938-add-hdt-breast-collision-physics-to-all- your-armor-with-just-1-armor/page-2 then it said as a last line that it loaded hdtCBBE.xml from its location and thats it. Haven't seen more message after these two. Older RaceMenu plugins are INCOMPATIBLE with HDT!!! Any RaceMenu older than 2.1.5 with HDT => Crash
Guest Jack Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Older RaceMenu plugins are INCOMPATIBLE with HDT!!! Any RaceMenu older than 2.1.5 with HDT => Crash THANK GOD IT WORKED !!! I tried to fix this for like straight 24 hours and you tell to update Racemenu AND IT WORKED. THANK GOD FOR THE SOLUTION. I mostly like to thank myself for fixing this without anyone help and few others. I'm just kidding. Thank YOU Groovtama. Thank you so much. I have no idea what I would have done it without you. Probably gone mad. If anyone is also having the same problem, here's what I did. I updated, Racemenu, its optional files, loose base script, overlay plugin and ShowRaceMenu Alternative mod. Thanks again
bastilleday Posted May 30, 2014 Posted May 30, 2014 Hi everyone here at loverslab. I spent a couple days working on this and finally got everything (mostly) working. I'm using a UNP body from the TC page on the Nexus, in the optional files section. I always install the xp32 1.93a skeleton last, allowing it to do the final overwriting. Sexy Idles is also working well, with collision, without the need to install the separate Havok Breast Physics (using HDT Breast and Butt instead). I'm running both RaceMenu and ECE right now, and just got the hang of running the FNIS exe file. I also use all of XP32's new animations, each one separately from the Nexus, ticking the boxes that do the patching in the FNIS generator. All of this, plus installing new kill moves and Selene Kate companion caused my first CTD experience with launching Skyrim, while attempting to load a game. The same exact save, when tried again, works (sometimes takes a 3rd try). The CTD is certainly intermittent. Once the game is loaded, subsequent loading of the problematic saves doesn't cause a problem--only when initially launching Skyrim. I'm also running the 1.7 alpha version of SKSE, with the 768 / 256 memory tweak I learned from Gopher. Overall my laptop is churning out a highly stable Skyrim, with the CTD's only intermittent since I added HDT and FNIS, and the couple of mods that use them. If things go awry I'll attempt to follow up here.
bastilleday Posted May 31, 2014 Posted May 31, 2014 Update. After a session of breaking it again, I refined the whole process a bit better. I wound up removing Enhanced Character Edit for now and I'm using the latest RaceMenu. This seems to have cleared up CTD's. Regarding just physics and animation here's my rundown to do the build from start to finish (in installation order): unpb 2.4 body from tc page, dimonized unp (texture only), victoria's walk, dragonfly walk (just for the backwards walking anims), momo jump for the backflip, 1h weapon anim, running with bow anim, tc craftable's, tc replacers, hdt-pe, hdt breast and butt physics - collision version, skyrim hair physics, tc hdt patch, ragdolls, dance of death, xp32 skeleton 1.93a (overwrite all), sexy idle animation I'm also running FNIS and Selene Kate. The above build seems to reliably get the boobs working with the hands and collision. This doesn't get much into my face build but hopefully this is somewhat helpful to someone.
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