randompeep Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 I came back to this game for a moment after playing around with Skyrim and Oblivion. So I had thought I installed everything correctly to the letter, everything was working perfectly fine before. But then I load up my latest save and try some intimate action via dialog screen and I get two actors (my own and an npc) standing in each other. In other words the animations were not playing. Here is my load order. FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmCaravanPack.esmCFWNV.esmAWorldOfPain(Preview).esmNevadaSkies.esmPipboyRemover.esmProject Nevada - Core.esmProject Nevada - Equipment.esmSexout.esmSexoutCommonResources.esmSexoutSlavery.esmSexoutLegion.esmT6M Equipment Replacer NV.esmWARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esmLings.esmmsexBase.esmCrossModData.esmAgeBasedBodys.esmAnother-Kick-In-The-Head.esmDaughters of Ares.esmSexoutOffSpring.esmSexoutPregnancyV3.esmSexoutSoliciting.esmwsex.esmProject Nevada - Rebalance.espProject Nevada - Cyberware.espDaughters of Ares.espReadius_NV.espThe Mod Configuration Menu.espA Better Boone.espA Better Cass.espA Better Veronica.esppopulatedcasino.espProject13 - Populated Wasteland.espLight My Flare.espwsexInnuendoNPCs.espBrotherhood Armor.espbzArmour.espDaughters of Ares - CouriersStash.espDragsModernGunslinger.espFlashlightNVSE.espGlove_be_gone.espNCR Rearmament v1.5 (Lore).espSeeker Armor.espTGsArmorCollectionVegas.espLingsPrettyThings.espDaughters of Ares - Lings Patch.espFollower Home Marker.espSunnyCompanion.espUnlimitedCompanions.espUnlimitedCompanions SCRIPT FIX.espModified Combat Values v2.espWeaponModsExpanded.espProject Nevada - WMX.espBetterGamePerformanceV4.espCompanion Sandbox Mode3.espARESproject.espT45d Power Armor Replacement - PN.espA Better Boone Default Sandbox.espEVE FNV - NO DLC.espWMX-EVE-NoDLC.espJustAnArmorPack_NV.espSmallerTalk.espmsexVeronica.espRoad Warrior's Armor.espGood things in good Springs.espJoOsArmory.espDragsCasualCourierAndMore.espTatctical Third Person Camera - FOV 30.espPN - Rebalance Sneak Override removal.espCNR_Beta.espRSO - Realistic Stealth Overhaul - NV.espL.E.A.N.E.espED-E Daughters of Ares.espSexout-Another-Kick-Extension.espSexoutCrowdsB.espSexoutSexAssault.espSexoutSpunk.espSexoutZAZ.espSexoutSex.espSexoutKings.espSexoutKhans.espSexoutNCR.espSexoutFiends.espwsex.espAlternative Start.espTotal active plugins: 90Total plugins: 94 Help would very much be appreciated. I'm sure it my be something with the load order, because only after I added some more mods on did it start getting messy.
myuhinny Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 What mods did you recently install? Did you try turning those ones off to see if anyone of those were the culprit? Did you install any pose type mods? I think I had problems with pose mods before and had to turn them off after taking the pictures to get the animations working again. http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34703/? FNVEdit by ElminsterAU Download it unzip it and run the .exe that is in it that will load all .esp/.esm's that you have installed in your game if it hits a error in your load order it will stop and tell you why in the bottom right hand area read it fix it close FNVEdit and repeat starting it till it is able to load everything up without hitting any errors then try your game again.
randompeep Posted April 19, 2014 Author Posted April 19, 2014 Thank you for the reply. Yes I have used FNVEdit before, though not to a great extent. I am still a newb with these things, I have no pose mods installed. If I remember correctly the first time I noticed this issue (depending on which I installed first) was after I installed another H mod. I don't recall the order, as I abandoned New Vegas for Skyrim and Oblivion. But have returned to it just recently. So I'm not entirely sure, I tried uninstalling sexout and any mods with it, along with Sexual Innuendo, but the game would crash upon loading a save game. It's not game breaking, as other dialog options do work. But one particular line refuses to load animations. This line of text is a dialog option, which leads to several options- then action. The two main dialog lines that work for initiating sex are the "So you're open for business" (for hookers, prostitutes, I'm not sure what mod this is from) line, and whatever line Sexoutsex.esp uses. PS: Yeah, once I noticed I tried to backtrack a bit. I fear I may have to do a complete clean save or new-game to see what happens. But man I don't wanna. Now that I think about it, the dialog option when speaking with Trudy, complementing her, the same thing happens- no animations. Maybe it is SexoutSoliciting that is having problems, I'm not sure... the line of dialog by the way that is giving me no animation says something like "Hey I wanna try something with you. . ." I'll have to go check it.
Odessa Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 I believe those lines are from SexoutSex. It allows you to play some animations that are not included in the main Sexout download, you have to get them seperatey. If you try to start one of those without having them then you will get the situation you describe. The mod OP probably says what those anims are and where to find them. Also, try disabling wsex or use the sexout converter for it. I think using both can be problematic.
nyaalich Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 It isn't just pose mods. If memory serves, it's mods that add other knockdown idle animations, like Alice in Wasteland on the Nexus (fixed on here) and Nina (not picking on you, A.J. I just haven't played with other mods that added idles ). You can remove those records with FNVEdit. The dialogue is definitely from Sexout Sex. I second the wsex patch on here. I've seen that it causes issues in other threads.
randompeep Posted April 19, 2014 Author Posted April 19, 2014 Thank you for the replies. Okay well, I'm going to remove Sexout Sex from my data folder and all. I will see what happens to the dialog lines. As far as wsex goes, are you saying remove the .esm or the .esp (patch)? PS: I removed sexoutsex and sexoutsoliciting, however I am no longer receiving extra dialog options with regular npcs like freeside people. "I need to get going" comes up. There are 0 options with them other than that, which was not the case earlier. I will enable sexoutsoliciting only and see what dialog comes up. However, with King Groupies I do receive the "You wanna have a good time" option.
nyaalich Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Sexout Sex shouldn't be causing the issue. I've got it, and it works fine. Don't remove the wsex patch. We were making sure that you had it. Maybe you hit your mod limit? Inactive ones count towards that.
randompeep Posted April 19, 2014 Author Posted April 19, 2014 Nah I have about only 90 to 100 plugins, including inactive ones which I just removed into a different folder reserved for them. Okay, I'm going to renable those 2 starting with sexoutsex (since you're sure it shouldn't be causing anything) to see what dialog options come up and if they work.
nyaalich Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Have you toggled Archive Invalidation since you installed Sexout Sex?
randompeep Posted April 19, 2014 Author Posted April 19, 2014 Yes, by the way, the animations for the single dialog line that wasn't working- work now. Aside from reactivating sexoutsex.esp I did happen upon a meshes folder which contained idle anims, I did not get a prompt to overwrite anything so maybe that's what was missing? I'm reactivating sexoutsoliciting now. PS: Everything still seems in order, I have not come across problems as of yet with both the sexoutsex.esp and sexoutsoliciting.esm activated. Only thing that bugs me now is the absence of Bnb in some animations. Some actor alignment is an issue too, but I'll try your mod from your signature for that. I do have Arma's animations installed already so... Does using bodycontrol (setting encountered npcs to pick a body) conflict with Bnb? I'd imagine so, if any of the bodies were not compatible.
nyaalich Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Character Resize only helps when the actors are above/below the standard height (referred to as scale in the game). If you open the console, select an NPC, and type "getscale", you'll see if they are > or < 1 (1 being the average height that all animations are made for). For example, Sunny Smiles is .95. Sexout Sex did recently incorporate Amra's modder's resources, and that's what the "I want to try something..." dialogue allows you to initiate. I'm glad that you mentioned that. : D Only Amra's animations have bouncing breasts. I'm guessing that's what you mean when you say "Only thing that bugs me now is the absence of Bnb in some animations." Also, I'm guessing that this is what you're referring to with body control? If you've already got it installed and it works, cool. If not, I'd be worried about them not using the BnB compatibility skeleton. For example, they mention Breeze's FO3 Biped Animation Kit, which has its own skeleton (not that I'm sure if it can even be used in game, but still...). I can't advise beyond this. Sorry.
randompeep Posted April 19, 2014 Author Posted April 19, 2014 Character Resize only helps when the actors are above/below the standard height (referred to as scale in the game). If you open the console, select an NPC, and type "getscale", you'll see if they are > or < 1 (1 being the average height that all animations are made for). For example, Sunny Smiles is .95. Sexout Sex did recently incorporate Amra's modder's resources, and that's what the "I want to try something..." dialogue allows you to initiate. I'm glad that you mentioned that. : D Only Amra's animations have bouncing breasts. I'm guessing that's what you mean when you say "Only thing that bugs me now is the absence of Bnb in some animations." Also, I'm guessing that this is what you're referring to with body control? If you've already got it installed and it works, cool. If not, I'd be worried about them not using the BnB compatibility skeleton. For example, they mention Breeze's FO3 Biped Animation Kit, which has its own skeleton (not that I'm sure if it can even be used in game, but still...). I can't advise beyond this. Sorry. Well, thank you for your timely responses. Body control works fine, but there's no BnB on any of the bodies I think, likely because they're using a different skeleton as you suggested. Just when I thought I had everything corrected, textures for the male body used in the animations begin looking distorted and messy. Late edit:everything is working fine now.
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