A dark day for a better, faster Skyrim!

Hentai-chan · April 7, 2014

Today, I came across this video that featured a memory patch and guide to integrated to Skyrim. The video is about how this patch can be integrated into Skyrim for better performance. I followed every bit of instruction in the video and when I went to run Skyrim, it crashed loading the menu. It was NOT crash on startup, it was a crash loading the menu. I was convinced that the problem was caused by SKSE. So I noticed there was a discussion page that was linked to Nexus. So I went to the site to if I did anything wrong. It mentioned that need to compile a new "skse_steam_loader.dll". I followed the guide to see an skse_steam_loader.dll was not compiled or it was compiled and I couldn't see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37xAMUQc1oY (Skyrim Mod Sanctuary by Gopher)

http://enbdev.com/ctdfix.html (Skyrim Memory Patch)

http://enbseries.enbdev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2729&start=40#p45684 (this was very useful, too)

Am I doing something wrong? Or is there more that I need? Or is .NET Framework being a total bitch? 'Cause I am having problems with that, too.

Note: I also have the alpha build as recommended by Gopher.

EDIT: My rig falls fairly in line with the recommendations. 8GB RAM, 512MB VRAM (NVIDIA 310M), 64-bit Win7 and I have ENBoost to top it all off.

TnTTnT · April 8, 2014

You may want to try this version of the patch. It is less complication. No need to re-compile SKSE.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305

bradleyh · April 8, 2014

Use SKSE Beta 1.07, and make an SKSE.ini file with,

[General]

ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

[Memory]

DefaultHeapInitiailAllocMB=756

ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

Place the ini in Skyrim\Data\SKSE.

Using ENBoost (part of the ENB download) can separate V-Ram from the 3.1Gb Skyrim has.

Hentai-chan · April 8, 2014

You may want to try this version of the patch. It is less complication. No need to re-compile SKSE.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305

There's mention of the SSME in Gopher's video. (And since I said I followed everything the video to the letter) I already have SSME.

EDIT: Nope. It still doesn't budge. Maybe if I give everything I have it'll be more helpful, yeah?

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50471/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D50471%26preview%3D&pUp=1 (Memory Blocks Log)

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D46465%26preview%3D&pUp=1 (Safety Load)

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D50305%26preview%3D&pUp=1 (Skyrim Startup Memory Editor)

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/38649/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D38649&pUp=1 (ENBoost)

The Latest ENB (Wrapper Edition)

Use SKSE Beta 1.07, and make an SKSE.ini file with,

[General]

ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

[Memory]

DefaultHeapInitiailAllocMB=756

ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

Tried it with antialiasing and anistropic filtering turned off. Still doesn't budge. Bitch. (Skyrim, not the reader or the commentator)

EDIT3: Correction on the VRAM. Changed it 1GB to 512MB on the OP. Not my fault if NVIDIA gives false info on their product.

*CGi* · April 9, 2014

SKSE 1.7a with enabled memory fix and SSME do the same. Choose only one.
Safety load does someting similar, so you should choose again. it's only SKSE 1.7, SSME or Safety Load.

You can speed up Skyrim by optimizing your textures and limiting their size (like 2048px), use ENB with or w/o graphic modifications, clean your plugins and DLCs and last but not least: Get rid of loose files and use BSAs.

Hentai-chan · April 9, 2014

Get rid of loose files and use BSAs.

Right. How do I do that exactly?

*CGi* · April 9, 2014

By packing up all files (except animations, as else the FNiS generator might throw errors at you) with BSAopt or any other tool that can create BSAs.
Choose max (forced) compession to speed up load times and reduce micro stutter.

Edit: The BSA must have the same name as the plugin file of the mod or it won't be loaded (unless you use MO).

Hentai-chan · April 29, 2014

I was looking through my documents when I heard mention of a papyrus log. And I found this error.

Cannot open store for class "_sltns_update", missing file?
[04/08/2014 - 02:32:47PM] Error: Unable to bind script _sltns_update to _sltns_update (1F00331F) because their base types do not match
[04/08/2014 - 02:32:48PM] Cannot open store for class "aaaUCTest", missing file?
[04/08/2014 - 02:32:52PM] Cannot open store for class "tweakfollowerscript", missing file?
[04/08/2014 - 02:32:53PM] Error: Unable to bind script _SL_ChangehornSCRIPT to SuccubusChangeHornsQUEST (63021C79) because their base types do not match

Is it related to problem I'm having?

Bwog · April 29, 2014

"EDIT: My rig falls fairly in line with the recommendations. 8GB RAM, 512MB VRAM (NVIDIA 310M), 64-bit Win7 and I have ENBoost to top it all off."

I am not an expert, but because ssme allocates memory for loading, and I think that should be less than your total 512MB VRAM. Anyway, it is not much effort to try.

I read that ssme checks if another program does the memory allocation, that means that if you use skse 1.6.16 stable ssme will be active and if you use the alpha, the alpha will be active.

I use ssme (d3dx9_42.dll and ssme.ini in skyrim folder) and skse 1.6.16. I have ENB boost. I do not use safety load, I do not need it with ssme.

I removed the memoryblockslog after a short test, but it is probably ok.

Hentai-chan · April 29, 2014

As I recall, the memory patch increases the total memory of the first block to 512MB. The first block is the equivalent of my VRAM. Hmmm... I doesn't make much sense but is it possible Skyrim just "cancels out" because it sees there's isn't enough memory for the 2nd block?

Uriel · April 29, 2014

First and second memory blocks have nothing to do with VRAM because they don't contain any models or textures or other resources. It's more like a database that holds descriptions on the objects currently in use in the game process. For ex, if you spawn a bunch of NPC's, you second block usage will grow.

So, do you still crash before the main menu appears? Post your logs from "Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE\" please.

*CGi* · April 29, 2014

Another cause for this error can be seen as bug report on german forums, where people who pirated the game use the launcher of another language.

if your game is not pirated, check if the string files for your language (Data\Strings) and the translation file (Data\Interface\Translate_{YOUR_LABGUAGE}.txt) is present.

if not, let Steam verify your game files.

As i'm on wits end, this is the only other error i could google up as for me this error only comes up when a plugin misses a dependency.

JLF65 · April 30, 2014

If you use Windows XP (like I still do... only for gaming, I use linux for everything else), the largest block size you can allocate with SSME (or the other memory block fixes) is 640MB. If you try to set it to 768MB or bigger, it WILL CTD. I keep SSME set for 640MB/256MB for the primary/secondary blocks.

If you have 64-bit Windows, be sure to turn on x64 memory handling in enblocal.ini. The [memory] section should look like this

[MEMORY]

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true

ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

DisableDriverMemoryManager=false

DisablePreloadToVRAM=false

EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false

ReservedMemorySizeMb=64

VideoMemorySizeMb=0

EnableCompression=true

AutodetectVideoMemorySize=true

The VideoMemorySizeMb should be 0 with autodetect turned on for card with less than 1GB of ram. If you have more video ram than that, set the (approximate) size and turn off autodetect.

If you use 32-bit Windows, ExpandSystemMemoryX64 should be false.

Hentai-chan · May 1, 2014

So, do you still crash before the main menu appears?

As of now, I haven't run Skyrim nor have I made taken any steps to do fix the problem. (Other things to tend to.) But I do want this problem fixed and I want get a handle of how things work, essentially. So I postponed all efforts to fix until I get a Steam copy.

where people who pirated the game use the launcher of another language.

That won't be an issue. Because I didn't do that.

If you have 64-bit Windows, be sure to turn on x64 memory handling in enblocal.ini. The [memory] section should look like this
[MEMORY]

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true

ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

DisableDriverMemoryManager=false

DisablePreloadToVRAM=false

EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false

ReservedMemorySizeMb=64

VideoMemorySizeMb=0

EnableCompression=true

AutodetectVideoMemorySize=true

The VideoMemorySizeMb should be 0 with autodetect turned on for card with less than 1GB of ram. If you have more video ram than that, set the (approximate) size and turn off autodetect.

If you use 32-bit Windows, ExpandSystemMemoryX64 should be false.

Here's the memory section of enblocal.ini from ENBoost and CTD fix...

[MEMORY]

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true

ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

DisableDriverMemoryManager=false

DisablePreloadToVRAM=true

EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false

ReservedMemorySizeMb=256

VideoMemorySizeMb=0

...And the logs.

SKSE

SKSE runtime: initialize (version = 1.7.0 09200000 01CF531E341A78C8, os = 6.1 (7601))

imagebase = 00400000

runtime root = D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\

config path = D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\skse.ini

plugin directory = D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\CFM_extensions.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\CFM_extensions.dll (00000001 skse_categorized_favorites_menu 00000003) reported as incompatible during query

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\CharacterMakingExtender_plugin.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\CharacterMakingExtender_plugin.dll (00000001 ExCharGen plugin 0000002E) loaded correctly

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\FirstPersonPlugin.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\FirstPersonPlugin.dll (00000001 firstperson plugin 00000001) loaded correctly

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\hdtHighHeelNative.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\hdtHighHeelNative.dll (00000001 hdtHighHeelNative 00000001) loaded correctly

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll (00000001 hdtPhysicsExtensions 00000001) loaded correctly

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\MemoryBlocksLog.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\MemoryBlocksLog.dll (00000001 MemoryBlocksLog plugin 00000001) loaded correctly

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\MfgConsole.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\MfgConsole.dll (00000001 Mfg Console plugin 00000002) loaded correctly

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\nioverride.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\nioverride.dll (00000001 nioverride 00000002) loaded correctly

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\SafetyLoad.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\SafetyLoad.dll (00000001 Safety Load plugin 00000002) loaded correctly

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\showRaceMenu_preCacheKiller.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\showRaceMenu_preCacheKiller.dll (00000001 ShowRaceMenu preCacheKiller plugin 00000001) loaded correctly

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll (00000001 SKSE_Elys_Uncapper 010F0011) loaded correctly

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\StorageUtil.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\StorageUtil.dll (00000001 papyrusutil plugin 00000001) loaded correctly

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\TKHitStop.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\TKHitStop.dll (00000001 TK HitStop plugin 00000001) loaded correctly

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\tkplugin.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\tkplugin.dll (00000001 tktk plugin 00000001) reported as incompatible during query

checking plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\UltimateCombat.dll

plugin D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\\UltimateCombat.dll (00000001 ultimate combat plugin 00000001) reported as incompatible during query

init complete

hooked dinput

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\hdtHighHeel_ENGLISH.txt...

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\SexLab_ENGLISH.txt...

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\SexLabAroused_ENGLISH.txt...

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\SkyUI_ENGLISH.txt...

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\LoversComfort_ENGLISH.txt...

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\AMatterOfTime_ENGLISH.txt...

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\Athletics Training_ENGLISH.txt...

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\ImmersiveFP_ENGLISH.txt...

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition_ENGLISH.txt...

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\Skyrim Immersive Creatures_ENGLISH.txt...

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\DeadlyDragons_ENGLISH.txt...

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\Brevi_MoonlightTales_ENGLISH.txt...

Reading translations from Interface\Translations\CharacterMakingExtender_ENGLISH.txt...

SKSE_loader

skse loader 01070000 01CF531E340B367C 6.1 (7601)

runtime root = D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\

config path = D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\skse.ini

procPath = D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\\TESV.exe

launching: TESV.exe (D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\\TESV.exe)

dwSignature = FEEF04BD

dwStrucVersion = 00010000

dwFileVersionMS = 00010009

dwFileVersionLS = 00200000

dwProductVersionMS = 00010009

dwProductVersionLS = 00200000

dwFileFlagsMask = 00000017

dwFileFlags = 00000000

dwFileOS = 00000004

dwFileType = 00000001

dwFileSubtype = 00000000

dwFileDateMS = 00000000

dwFileDateLS = 00000000

version = 0001000900200000

normal exe

hook call addr = 00F56831

load lib addr = 0106B0B4

dll = D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\\skse_1_9_32.dll

main thread id = 6468

remote memory = 001D0000

old winmain = 0069D1D0

launching

SKSE_nioverride

skse_nioverride

NetImmerse Override Enabled

runtime root = D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\

config path = D:\Games\The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\nioverride.ini

SKSE_tkplugin

tkplugin.dll

unsupported runtime version 1.9.32.0

(this plugin needs 1.8.151.0)

SKSE.log0

SKSE runtime: initialize (version = 1.6.16 09200000 01CEE548175AF59D, os = 6.1 (7601))