Wandering_Mania Posted July 31 Posted July 31 So I needed to make a completely fresh install of FO4 on a new computer (long story); And so I grabbed the AAF 1.61.1b installed everything according to the guide here on LL. Had a few hiccups trying to get the 'Discrete Female Skeleton' to work with physics, but that was my bad as I forgot to copy the new skeleton into the separated folder. Anyway, I digress. I can not for the life of me figure out how, or why, AAF gets a 15% lockup no matter what I try. It just will not load. I'm on game version 1.10.163 after doing a version downgrade, installed everything via Vortex, even though I hate the thing, 'cause it's manual sorting is excessively complex, and LOOT is worthless. Anyway, I keep thinking that I'm missing something like 'FORES' or 'Nemesis' but that can't be. Am I missing something? Anyone got any ideas? 'Cause I'm fresh out. Any help/ideas is/are appreciated.
JB. Posted July 31 Posted July 31 35 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said: So I needed to make a completely fresh install of FO4 on a new computer (long story); And so I grabbed the AAF 1.61.1b installed everything according to the guide here on LL. Had a few hiccups trying to get the 'Discrete Female Skeleton' to work with physics, but that was my bad as I forgot to copy the new skeleton into the separated folder. Anyway, I digress. I can not for the life of me figure out how, or why, AAF gets a 15% lockup no matter what I try. It just will not load. I'm on game version 1.10.163 after doing a version downgrade, installed everything via Vortex, even though I hate the thing, 'cause it's manual sorting is excessively complex, and LOOT is worthless. Anyway, I keep thinking that I'm missing something like 'FORES' or 'Nemesis' but that can't be. Am I missing something? Anyone got any ideas? 'Cause I'm fresh out. Any help/ideas is/are appreciated. That's a very old version. For example, in that version, AAF creates a clone of your character to use in the animations. In newer versions, they use your actual character. The new version is on Discord and is currently 1.7.2.
Wandering_Mania Posted July 31 Author Posted July 31 5 minutes ago, JB. said: The new version is on Discord and is currently 1.7.2. And if that's the only place I can get it, then I'm SOL. Because I choose to stay far far away from Discord. Too much malware, and other crap, hosted there. Not to mention the 'mind rot of the social medias'. Fucking Nexus mods going straight batshit crazy and doing rando-removals! Ahh well, thanks for the info. Kinda figures it'd be the AAF version I was able to get a hold of.
dagobaking Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Just don't download anything from there except for the newest AAF. Malware issue solved. And socializing can be completely ignored if you aren't interested in that. 1
Wandering_Mania Posted August 1 Author Posted August 1 3 hours ago, dagobaking said: Just don't download anything from there except for the newest AAF. Malware issue solved. And socializing can be completely ignored if you aren't interested in that. Let me put this as bluntly as possible: I WILL NOT USE DISCORD! That is MY choice. As well as a lot of other people's choice. Not everyone want to use the Anti-social medias. Some people want to stay as far away from them as possible. And to even access anything on some of them, like discord, one is required to make an account. And that requires giving Discord information. Information that we DO NOT want to give them. And If your gonna delete every single out of date version, and turn off the comments; Don't leave the only publicly available version, a non-functional version. That's a big 'Fuck you!' to anyone who may need to reacquire the essential mod. And like it or not, computers do need to be replaced sometimes. Why is this all so difficult to understand? Oh that's right. Because 'common sense' has been completely murdered by the brain rot of the social medias. And you wonder why I refuse to use them? Gee... I couldn't imagine.
dagobaking Posted August 2 Posted August 2 11 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: Let me put this as bluntly as possible: I WILL NOT USE DISCORD! That is MY choice. As well as a lot of other people's choice. Not everyone want to use the Anti-social medias. Some people want to stay as far away from them as possible. And to even access anything on some of them, like discord, one is required to make an account. And that requires giving Discord information. Information that we DO NOT want to give them. And If your gonna delete every single out of date version, and turn off the comments; Don't leave the only publicly available version, a non-functional version. That's a big 'Fuck you!' to anyone who may need to reacquire the essential mod. And like it or not, computers do need to be replaced sometimes. Why is this all so difficult to understand? Oh that's right. Because 'common sense' has been completely murdered by the brain rot of the social medias. And you wonder why I refuse to use them? Gee... I couldn't imagine. And let me reply as bluntly as possible: I've tried many options and given my reasons for hosting decisions ad nauseum. It's a closed issue and not up for debate on my part. Deal with it or simply accept that myself and my work are none of your business. Your arguments for staying away from "Anti-social medias" make zero sense. Especially written on the original form of social media: an internet forum. Do you think the people writing their opinions here are different than the people writing their opinions on Discord? And creating an account? If you are so worried about that, make a protonmail account and use that address. Would take you five minutes and gives up absolutely nothing.
Wandering_Mania Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 1 hour ago, dagobaking said: Your arguments for staying away from "Anti-social medias" make zero sense. How about this one then? Upper Echelon: The kids are getting dumber Is that better explained? 1 hour ago, dagobaking said: Especially written on the original form of social media: an internet forum. And this, is nothing like those algorithm driven, 'doom scroll' baiting, attention span dwindling, intelligence dimming, dangerous "challenge" promoting, killers of minds, and people. 1 hour ago, dagobaking said: I've tried many options and given my reasons for hosting decisions ad nauseum. It's a closed issue and not up for debate on my part. Deal with it or simply accept that myself and my work are none of your business. Yup. In other words, you want to be an asshole, and there's nothing I can do about it. Gotcha. Your not the first, and you wont be the last.
dagobaking Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: How about this one then? Upper Echelon: The kids are getting dumber Is that better explained? Are you seriously suggesting that if you go to Discord to download AAF it will make you dumber? But, if you download it from somewhere else you will be fine? 2 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: And this, is nothing like those algorithm driven, 'doom scroll' baiting, attention span dwindling, intelligence dimming, dangerous "challenge" promoting, killers of minds, and people. See above. 2 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: Yup. In other words, you want to be an asshole, and there's nothing I can do about it. Gotcha. Your not the first, and you wont be the last. Let's examine the facts here. You decided to ask for help with work that I made and provided to the public for free. I personally took the time to read your post and reply with a constructive and true comment. You decided to reply with a "blunt" lecture, criticizing where I choose to distributed my free work. And you accuse ME of being the asshole? You're a funny guy. Like I said, if you choose to be a technology hermit and have weird superstitions, etc. that's fine. As you say, it's your choice. But, then don't turn around and bitch about the things your choices stop you from reaching. After all, it was YOUR choice. Edited August 2 by dagobaking
Wandering_Mania Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 6 hours ago, dagobaking said: And you accuse ME of being the asshole? You're a funny guy. And you upload a non-functional version to the most convenient places. While telling others, 'to get a functional version we need to go out of our way', even when that includes using platforms that we don't want to touch. You're equally "funny". 6 hours ago, dagobaking said: Are you seriously suggesting that if you go to Discord to download AAF it will make you dumber? But, if you download it from somewhere else you will be fine? If you actually watched that whole video you actually understand. But it's pretty clear that you don't want to learn anything. So there's no hope for you. Anyway, I'm done with this. JB already hooked me up with a functional version. So you can take your Discord and shove it. Good day Sir.
Holylokki Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 10 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: And this, is nothing like those algorithm driven, 'doom scroll' baiting, attention span dwindling, intelligence dimming, dangerous "challenge" promoting, killers of minds, and people. Facepalm. Does Discord force you to view unwanted information? Does Discord force you to communicate with anyone? Do you even know what Discord was designed for in the first place? Apparently not. Because Discord was created as a voice communication tool for players in multiplayer games. I remember Skype, TeamSpeak, and RaidCall conferences with 20+ players and the problems they had. And I remember how quickly everyone switched to Discord as soon as it came out. Not only because it offered better voice communication. More importantly, it gave team leaders convenient team management tools. I still remember the time when a team leader had to know everyone's phone numbers, lol. Discord made it much easier to notify the team about changes in rosters and schedules. It was later discovered that the Discord server format is very convenient for creating highly specialized, thematic conferences on any topic. And they are often more effective than similarly specialized forums. Edited August 2 by Holylokki
dagobaking Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wandering_Mania said: And you upload a non-functional version to the most convenient places. While telling others, 'to get a functional version we need to go out of our way', even when that includes using platforms that we don't want to touch. You're equally "funny". You just keep putting your foot in your mouth. The old version was functional at the time it was posted, many years ago. Then Nexus changed rules that prohibit deletion, expanded rights they gain when posting there, etc. Which is the reason I stop posting there in the first place. [You also greatly overstate your case by suggesting that there is a "we" involved here. I'm sorry. But, you and the other 4 hillbillies that are afraid of what email might do do not represent anything that I should consider.] 1 hour ago, Wandering_Mania said: If you actually watched that whole video you actually understand. But it's pretty clear that you don't want to learn anything. So there's no hope for you. I don't need to watch videos made for moron-clicks in order to see that there is nothing to learn there and it will just make me dumber for watching it. The irony of you pushing a youtube video about social media making kids dumber apparently escapes you? 1 hour ago, Wandering_Mania said: Anyway, I'm done with this. JB already hooked me up with a functional version. So you can take your Discord and shove it. Good day Sir. JB should not have done that. But, you clearly won't make it far without needing more help or some different version anyway. Won't be getting it from me. You're fired. Edited August 2 by dagobaking 1
Samhsay Posted August 2 Posted August 2 11 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: How about this one then? Upper Echelon: The kids are getting dumber Is that better explained? Is there nothing on this channel about the harmful effects of pornography?
Wandering_Mania Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 3 hours ago, dagobaking said: But, you clearly won't make it far without needing more help or some different version anyway. Won't be getting it from me. And you assume I need it? That just shows how truly unintelligent you really are. You think you know everything, when in reality, you know nothing. But to quote Socrates: "The ancient Oracle said that I was the wisest of all the Greeks. Because of all the Greeks, I know, that I know nothing." I admit that I do not know how to create mods. But I do know to get mods that shouldn't work at all together, to at least work along side one another. And you could upload a working version here on LL. But no. Instead you choose to make people work around what YOU want. And intentionally make people go out of their way to acquire working versions. That's just being a D-bag for no reason. 3 hours ago, dagobaking said: JB should not have done that. He helped. What have you done but attempt to funnel people to your paywall and discord? Yeah, I don't see anything more you being the problem here. 3 hours ago, dagobaking said: The old version was functional at the time it was posted, many years ago. And now, it's non-functional. Times change, versions change, and that is an obsolete non-functional version. But people still may need to reacquire it because of it's 'essential' status to so many other mods. Yet you keep on refusing to make it available in convenient places. 2 hours ago, Samhsay said: Is there nothing on this channel about the harmful effects of pornography? I don't think he touches that subject. But there is enough people who do already. So I personally don't think he needs to. 4 hours ago, Holylokki said: Does Discord force you to view unwanted information? Does Discord force you to communicate with anyone? Do you even know what Discord was designed for in the first place? 1: Don't know. I never used it, and I never will. 2: See number 1. 3: Yes I do actually. But the Chinese Communist Party Investments via 'TenCent', and Discord being forced to get people to scan a government ID are reason enough to stay far far away. The CCP don't need to have, let alone do I want them to have, information on me. Or anyone but their citizens really. But if you guys want to hand that info over to them, that's your problem. And before you say it: You really can't expect TenCent to invest in something, without making data requests on the users of the platform. Not in this day and age of 'Data Brokering'. Remember, you're only as safe on the internet, as you are paranoid. And I am one paranoid MF.
JB. Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 5 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: Anyway, I'm done with this. JB already hooked me up with a functional version. So you can take your Discord and shove it. Damn, man. If I'd known you'd react like this (or sell me out for free...) I wouldn't have bothered. The modding scene exists thanks to frameworks and mods, and only those who get involved truly see the effort and sacrifices made for a community that’s often ungrateful or indifferent. I helped you because you helped me test, suggest, and improve my mods, like many other valuable users. I respect that. But the scene is driven by people who give up part of their lives to keep it alive. After seeing how you acted with Dago, I wouldn’t have lifted a finger. I'll probably get kicked off the AAF Discord server for this, so it doesn’t make me eager to help someone in need next time.🤣 Edited August 2 by JB. 1
Wandering_Mania Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 59 minutes ago, JB. said: Damn, man. If I'd known you'd react like this (or sell me out for free...) I wouldn't have bothered. Sorry, I knew I shouldn't have name dropped you. But you really do have to stand up to corrupt assholes like that. 1 hour ago, JB. said: The modding scene exists thanks to frameworks and mods, and only those who get involved truly see the effort and sacrifices made for a community that’s often ungrateful or indifferent. I helped you because you helped me test, suggest, and improve my mods, like many other valuable users. I respect that. But the scene is driven by people who give up part of their lives to keep it alive. I know. I know all too well. And this is why you have to stand up to those who would abuse that community for their own personal gain. What he's doing is no better than what the Nexus, or any big corporation is doing with the removal of user rights. As was said in 'Spiderman(2002)': "With great power, come great responsibility." And he is blatantly abusing that power. 1 hour ago, JB. said: After seeing how you acted with Dago, I wouldn’t have lifted a finger. Well, I do appreciate your help, my game now works because of what you did. And without that help, I would still be stuck with the busted version. And no way to use any of the mods that depend on it, including yours. And if doing the right thing, by standing up to the corrupted gets me blacklisted, I'll take that risk any day. 1 hour ago, JB. said: I'll probably get kicked off the AAF Discord server for this, so it doesn’t make me eager to help someone in need next time. Well, if helping people in the community out, and actually being a good person, is so bad as all that; Do you really want to associate with those that do that? As it says in my sig below: "Because I am hard you will not like me, but the more you hate me the more you will learn. I am hard but I am fair..." I stand up to the corrupt. I do not bow to those that make unnecessary demands of others. And I respect those who show respect. As the 'Golden Rule' applies evenly to everyone. But still, even if you do choose to blacklist me; I am still grateful for what you did. And you do have my deepest thanks, and my sincerest apologies if any of the 'Fallout' happens to come your way. You truly are a life saver, and a game saver. I think the only way to end this is how 'The Truman Show(1998)' ended. "In case I don't see ya'; Good afternoon, good evening, and good night."
Samhsay Posted August 2 Posted August 2 @Wandering_ManiaThere is one thing you’re overlooking in your reasoning. Everyone here posts their mods voluntarily and for free. No one can force JB or Dago to release an update or upload their creations to a platform they don't want to use. What’s more, they could both charge money for their mods, just like many Sims 4 creators do. So, talking about corruption is, to put it mildly, foolish. I might not like the fact that many things can only be downloaded via Discord or Patreon, but posting them there is the creators' right, and it’s not my place to judge them. 1
Wandering_Mania Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 47 minutes ago, Samhsay said: No one can force JB or Dago to release an update or upload their creations to a platform they don't want to use. No, no one can force them to use a platform they don't want to use. But seeing as how he is already using this one; Is it really that outlandish to ask him to host it here? But Dago is actively trying to force me to go to a platform that I don't want to use; So how does that make him any better? It's a 2 way street. Because he made the tools that everyone depends on, it should make him more accommodating; Not the other way around. 54 minutes ago, Samhsay said: I might not like the fact that many things can only be downloaded via Discord or Patreon, but posting them there is the creators' right, and it’s not my place to judge them. And that's exactly why you SHOULD judge them. Because, "if you give a mouse a cookie, he's gonna ask for a glass of milk...", as the old story goes. If they didn't want to release their framework to the public, then they shouldn't have done so in the first place. And someone else would have taken up the reigns. But when their framework becomes so essential to everything, they need to be accommodating to the community that depends on it. Take a look at the 2020 lockdowns for example; Restaurants, Grocery Stores, and so on, where labeled as 'essential businesses' and where ordered to stay open; Why? Because people needed them to survive. It's not the same 'survival' kinda element, but it is a very close proxy when so many mods require that 1 thing for all of those others to even work.
dagobaking Posted August 3 Posted August 3 6 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: And you assume I need it? That just shows how truly unintelligent you really are. You think you know everything, when in reality, you know nothing. But to quote Socrates: "The ancient Oracle said that I was the wisest of all the Greeks. Because of all the Greeks, I know, that I know nothing." 100%. You need it simply based on your OP. "Am I missing something?" Only several areas of guides and download descriptions that clearly explained to you that your actions wouldn't work and how to fix them yourself. 6 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: I admit that I do not know how to create mods. But I do know to get mods that shouldn't work at all together, to at least work along side one another. And you could upload a working version here on LL. But no. Instead you choose to make people work around what YOU want. And intentionally make people go out of their way to acquire working versions. That's just being a D-bag for no reason. "for no reason" - When I told you that I've discussed my reasons and given them ad nauseum here, did you think that I was lying? Since you want to, lets get to the bottom of it now: Do you think that I've stated my reasons for my hosting choices? Yes or no. 6 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: And now, it's non-functional. Times change, versions change, and that is an obsolete non-functional version. But people still may need to reacquire it because of it's 'essential' status to so many other mods. Yet you keep on refusing to make it available in convenient places. Thats MY choice. And as I've pointed out multiple times now: I gave my reasons ad nauseum. Do you believe that is true? Yes or no. Regarding the version on Nexus: A) They don't let you delete mods. So, I can't really delete it now. B) They do let you delete the mod listing. But, then that would remove my ability to at least let users know there are updated versions at other locations. Did you read that when you downloaded it, thinking it would work? Yes or no. 6 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: 3: Yes I do actually. But the Chinese Communist Party Investments via 'TenCent', and Discord being forced to get people to scan a government ID are reason enough to stay far far away. The CCP don't need to have, let alone do I want them to have, information on me. Or anyone but their citizens really. But if you guys want to hand that info over to them, that's your problem. And before you say it: You really can't expect TenCent to invest in something, without making data requests on the users of the platform. Not in this day and age of 'Data Brokering'. Remember, you're only as safe on the internet, as you are paranoid. And I am one paranoid MF. Do you or do you not know what protonmail is? Yes or no. 6 hours ago, JB. said: I'll probably get kicked off the AAF Discord server for this, so it doesn’t make me eager to help someone in need next time.🤣 You're good by me. You were just trying to be helpful. Thank you for speaking up on my behalf here. 4 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: Sorry, I knew I shouldn't have name dropped you. But you really do have to stand up to corrupt assholes like that. Now I'm corrupt? For what? You said it yourself: its your choice to not go onto Discord. Great! I don't give a shit. But somehow it's not my choice where to distribute my own work? I'm corrupt if I don't put it somewhere you deem convenient? 4 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: And he is blatantly abusing that power. You want something that I give away for free. But, you are mad that I don't give it away in the way you want. Should I feel bad about the "power" of you wanting things that I make? And again, how is it not my choice where to host it? Why do you think it should be your choice? 4 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: "Because I am hard you will not like me, but the more you hate me the more you will learn. I am hard but I am fair..." I stand up to the corrupt. I do not bow to those that make unnecessary demands of others. And I respect those who show respect. As the 'Golden Rule' applies evenly to everyone. You sir need a wake up call: You are not fair. You hold a double-standard about your choices vs mine. And I've done nothing corrupt at all by hosting my work on Discord. The reasons for that have nothing to do with you. Yet, you talk about this as if you've been victimized or targeted. 3 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: No, no one can force them to use a platform they don't want to use. But seeing as how he is already using this one; Is it really that outlandish to ask him to host it here? But Dago is actively trying to force me to go to a platform that I don't want to use; So how does that make him any better? Is it outlandish? Yes. Since I've answered that question 100 times already and pointed that out to you, it is outlandish for you to continue acting like I haven't. I'm not actively trying to force you to go to Discord. Did you not read the part where I fired you? I give my work away for free. After that, do you really think I care whether or not you, Wandering_Mania use it? What difference do you think it makes to me if you do or not? Absolutely none. I'm not asking or begging you to use Discord. I'm letting you know that if you want my work, that is where you will have to go to get it. Take it or leave it. Makes no difference to me. As a helpful person, I was trying to talk you off of your tin-foil ledge about it. But, if you want to flail around like an idiot over TenCent, go right ahead. And that goes for anyone else who has a problem with my hosting choices. If you don't like it, I wish you luck in your journeys. I will not be changing it to make your life 5 minutes more convenient. 3 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: It's a 2 way street. Because he made the tools that everyone depends on, it should make him more accommodating; Not the other way around. People depend on it because they don't share your crazy beliefs about Discord and TenCent. You are the one who is insisting that I accommodate what are basically religious beliefs. This isn't a public institution. It's my own personal work. Pleasing or accommodating your beliefs were never a goal or obligation of mine. 3 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: And that's exactly why you SHOULD judge them. Because, "if you give a mouse a cookie, he's gonna ask for a glass of milk...", as the old story goes. If they didn't want to release their framework to the public, then they shouldn't have done so in the first place. And someone else would have taken up the reigns. But when their framework becomes so essential to everything, they need to be accommodating to the community that depends on it. No I do not. No mod author owes you jack shit. No matter how popular their work is. What you are describing about yourself has a name for it: ENTITLED You are not entitled to anyones free work just because you like it. That idea has been a cancer in this community and has driven many great authors away. Stop being an asshole. 1
guliguliradish Posted August 3 Posted August 3 I am shocked by the statements in this article. A watermelon is only sold at a fruit store, but if it isn't available at a hardware store as you demanded, would you insult its producer? Then, when the producer tells you that you need to go to a fruit store to buy the watermelon (especially since this watermelon is free), you claim he is forcing you to go to the fruit store and destroying your "democratic freedom"? In all my years, I have never heard such a joke or met such a person, and it has me laughing uncontrollably. By this logic, Todd hasn't released an adult animation framework either, so he is also the culprit. Should you go to Bethesda headquarters with signs to denounce him? In any case, thank you to the author of this article for providing today's dose of laughter. Truly, thank you.
Wandering_Mania Posted August 3 Author Posted August 3 2 hours ago, dagobaking said: What you are describing about yourself has a name for it: So what's the name for your refusal to upload a working version here on the Labs? 2 hours ago, dagobaking said: People depend on it because they don't share your crazy beliefs about Discord and TenCent. Yup, that's right call me 'crazy'. You wouldn't be the first, and you wont be the last. But have fun with your case of identity theft when it happens because discord leaked your government ID, or face scan, to prove your age, due to hackers breaching their systems. Because it is a matter of 'when', not 'if'. It's already happened to many other systems that host that data from the UK; How could it not happen again. 2 hours ago, dagobaking said: Did you not read the part where I fired you? Nope. I didn't read that. Because I don't work for you. And if I did, I certainly never got a paycheck from you. So if you are going to try and fire me, I demand my back pay. 2 hours ago, dagobaking said: You hold a double-standard about your choices vs mine. So your perspective tells you. But you hold the same double standard. As you have options. Like the option to host it right here in LL. But you instead funnel people to a 3rd party site. So don't try talking to me about how: 2 hours ago, dagobaking said: You sir need a wake up call Because you need the same 'Wake up call'. 2 hours ago, dagobaking said: Should I feel bad about the "power" of you wanting things that I make? I'm sorry, I thought wanting a working game was everyone's 'want'. You are really trying to twist my words in ways that would put some twitter freaks to shame. And that's all I chose to answer. As I am going to be the bigger man here and just walk away. WALK away. Goodbye. Unfollowing topic, not going to waste my time on this any more.
dagobaking Posted August 3 Posted August 3 23 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said: So what's the name for your refusal to upload a working version here on the Labs? Rational? I notice that you haven't answered my yes/no questions. You can't, can you? 23 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said: Yup, that's right call me 'crazy'. You wouldn't be the first, I'm so surprised. 23 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said: and you wont be the last. But have fun with your case of identity theft when it happens because discord leaked your government ID, or face scan, to prove your age, due to hackers breaching their systems. Because it is a matter of 'when', not 'if'. It's already happened to many other systems that host that data from the UK; How could it not happen again. I'm confident that what I do is technically more secure than you. Do you know what a VLAN is? 23 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said: Nope. I didn't read that. Because I don't work for you. And if I did, I certainly never got a paycheck from you. So if you are going to try and fire me, I demand my back pay. And guess what? I never worked for you either! But, who is the one demanding anything from the other? 23 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said: So your perspective tells you. But you hold the same double standard. As you have options. Like the option to host it right here in LL. But you instead funnel people to a 3rd party site. Do you know what a double standard even is? Where is my second standard here? Not hosting LL, which I have given lengthy reasons for, numerous times, is the only standard I have. 23 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said: So don't try talking to me about how: Because you need the same 'Wake up call'. Try again dude. 23 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said: I'm sorry, I thought wanting a working game was everyone's 'want'. The game works fine without AAF. Go for it! 23 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said: And that's all I chose to answer. How convenient. Hard and fair man. lol
spuffyty54 Posted August 3 Posted August 3 (edited) I am also using the AAF version from Nexus, also hate discord, would be fine to get it's download link at MediaFire or anywhere else for the newest version The Nexus one works fine on my 163 old gen, a couple of times it got stuck at 68%, the first one was cus I was using Naf, a computer mess, no related to games stuff for the second one Edited August 3 by spuffyty54
dagobaking Posted August 3 Posted August 3 1 hour ago, spuffyty54 said: would be fine to get it's download link at MediaFire Not for me it wouldn't. Pretty sure that I already gave my reasons against this before. But, just to make sure: MediaFire links can be passed around and shared anywhere by anyone and there is no mechanism to establish agreement to terms before download. If MediaFire works for you to share your files with, great. Does not work for me.
Holylokki Posted August 3 Posted August 3 13 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: 1: Don't know. And that's your problem. You're ascribing to Discord imaginary sins that have nothing to do with reality. 13 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: But the Chinese Communist Party Investments via 'TenCent', and Discord being forced to get people to scan a government ID are reason enough to stay far far away. And that's your only even slightly valid complaint. But is this Discord's problem? I have an old account and I have never encountered the need to provide my passport details and a real photo. This new rule is related to changes in the laws of some countries. And apparently, for now it applies exclusively to these countries. Is Discord to blame for its obligation to comply with the law? In our country, the government took a simpler approach – they completely blocked all other means of communication to promote their own crappy messenger, owned by "relevant people." We have to use technical means to gain access to blocked resources. Should I blame Discord for this? Of course not. 13 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: But if you guys want to hand that info over to them, that's your problem. My "state-owned" bank is leaking information about me. My mobile phone provider is leaking information about me. My internet provider is leaking information about me. My email service is leaking information about me... The list goes on and on. And the most unpleasant thing is that they leak information to organizations that are located in my country, and not always legal ones. And this can really greatly affect my life. So should I be concerned that Discord is leaking data to the Chinese, and Google to the Americans? Compared to the information that leaks to those who can really influence me, this is a mere trifle. 1
ProgramG Posted August 12 Posted August 12 On 8/1/2026 at 8:10 AM, Wandering_Mania said: Let me put this as bluntly as possible: I WILL NOT USE DISCORD! That is MY choice. As well as a lot of other people's choice. Not everyone want to use the Anti-social medias. Some people want to stay as far away from them as possible. And to even access anything on some of them, like discord, one is required to make an account. And that requires giving Discord information. Information that we DO NOT want to give them. And If your gonna delete every single out of date version, and turn off the comments; Don't leave the only publicly available version, a non-functional version. That's a big 'Fuck you!' to anyone who may need to reacquire the essential mod. And like it or not, computers do need to be replaced sometimes. Why is this all so difficult to understand? Oh that's right. Because 'common sense' has been completely murdered by the brain rot of the social medias. And you wonder why I refuse to use them? Gee... I couldn't imagine. looking for AAF I found this page and hoping there was a link I looked it over. then i found this guy. I hate to say it but this well typed out argument is retarded as he claims he doesn't want to use social media but he is arguing about using on social media. And the best part is this platform is more open and less secure then discord. My guy if you ever read this go out and touch grass, but try to stay away from the kids playing in the grass. also remember when signing up for any site, even this one. you have to give them information about you. even if its not much. (your date of birth and email WOW) but here's the cool thing about discord. I don't have to see anything you post ion it and i can block everyone from anything i want and leaving any group is as easy as clicking a button. Oh FWI I stream free anime in my discord from time to time. its older stuff but good. I did lose a good bit from my divorce but i still got weeks of it to stream.
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