elin [Elin] [Mod] More Lovin' Library Reworked - Adult content framework

[bitnuke]

Is something wrong on my end, or do the "piston" sounds no longer work in the current version? Climax sound works, but sex is just silent.

 

I tried by removing the old sound directory and using the one in the current version, and i tried using the old sound dir. Same result: Climax sound plays, but sex is silent. I am using my own speech config files, but that shouldn't affect sound?

[bitnuke]

On 7/24/2026 at 3:42 AM, Neonredkill said:

Is there a way to make better succubus work alongside this mod? Not being able to sate my hunger via sex as a succubus makes me sad

Both did work together in the past, if you configured things correctly (like BS handle drain/rape and this mod handle consensual sex).

 

However, the current problem is that BS is broken with current Elin version (only the charm ability works, everything else disfunctional). So there's no point asking for compatibility, since BS currently isn't even compatible with Elin itself.

[bitnuke]

21 hours ago, bitnuke said:

Is something wrong on my end, or do the "piston" sounds no longer work in the current version? Climax sound works, but sex is just silent.

 

I tried by removing the old sound directory and using the one in the current version, and i tried using the old sound dir. Same result: Climax sound plays, but sex is silent. I am using my own speech config files, but that shouldn't affect sound?

Nevermind. Turns out the speech files do in fact control sound, and the keywords for piston sounds changed from "normal" to "early" and "late". Since there is no fallback to the old syntax, it renders old speech- and soundfiles obsolete.

 

I know people don't RTFM, but it would have been nice if this was mentioned in the changelog. Had to figure it out by exhaustive search because of this.

[bitnuke]

I've experimented a bit with the new drain features, to see if i can emulate behavior somewhat similiar to BetterSuccubus. Result: Impossible with the current code.

 

The reason is that - once again - this mod is too smart and vanilla for its own sake:

 

STA-Drain: The succubus cannot actually gain stamina. It's just a penalty for the victim, because that's how vanilla does it. Better Succubus instead: Transfer STA from victim to succubus. Simple, stupid, predictable and easy to understand.

 

Mana-Drain: The victim cannot go negative, so a succubus cannot manakill a victim. Is this vanilla behavior somewhere? Maybe, dunno. Better succubus instead: Transfer mana from victim to succubus. If he dies, so be it. Simple, stupid, predictable and easy to understand.

 

HP-Drain: Like MAG-drain, a succubus cannot kill victims by HP-drain. Better succubus instead: Transfer HP from victim to succubus. If he dies, so be it. Simple, stupid, predictable, easy to understand.

 

I guess one advantage of the above is, that a succubus cannot accidentally drainkill an NPC - except via STA, because that for some reason is allowed to go negative. But accidental drainkills should no longer be an issue: That's why the no drain on consensual sex option was implemented after all. So what the current mechanics actually achieve is, that you cannot use this mod for "combat sex" - and it is vanilla/lore friendly i guess. 

Edited August 20 by bitnuke

[JustHare]

On 8/20/2026 at 4:53 AM, bitnuke said:

Nevermind. Turns out the speech files do in fact control sound, and the keywords for piston sounds changed from "normal" to "early" and "late". Since there is no fallback to the old syntax, it renders old speech- and soundfiles obsolete.

 

I know people don't RTFM, but it would have been nice if this was mentioned in the changelog. Had to figure it out by exhaustive search because of this.

Sorry about that, Next time I'll mention things like that.

Since I had already noticed earlier that the mod needs to be completely reinstalled for it to update correctly, I thought this problem wouldn’t affect anyone. I suppose you had your own MLLR's config set up, which is why you didn’t have the opportunity to reinstall it completely.

[JustHare]

On 8/20/2026 at 12:17 PM, bitnuke said:

I've experimented a bit with the new drain features, to see if i can emulate behavior somewhat similiar to BetterSuccubus. Result: Impossible with the current code.

 

The reason is that - once again - this mod is too smart and vanilla for its own sake:

 

STA-Drain: The succubus cannot actually gain stamina. It's just a penalty for the victim, because that's how vanilla does it. Better Succubus instead: Transfer STA from victim to succubus. Simple, stupid, predictable and easy to understand.

 

Mana-Drain: The victim cannot go negative, so a succubus cannot manakill a victim. Is this vanilla behavior somewhere? Maybe, dunno. Better succubus instead: Transfer mana from victim to succubus. If he dies, so be it. Simple, stupid, predictable and easy to understand.

 

HP-Drain: Like MAG-drain, a succubus cannot kill victims by HP-drain. Better succubus instead: Transfer HP from victim to succubus. If he dies, so be it. Simple, stupid, predictable, easy to understand.

 

I guess one advantage of the above is, that a succubus cannot accidentally drainkill an NPC - except via STA, because that for some reason is allowed to go negative. But accidental drainkills should no longer be an issue: That's why the no drain on consensual sex option was implemented after all. So what the current mechanics actually achieve is, that you cannot use this mod for "combat sex" - and it is vanilla/lore friendly i guess. 

In the latest update I’m working on, there’s now the ability to drain HP/mana and saturation from succubus victims without killing them (except perhaps through stamina).

While I was testing MLLR, I also wanted to add the ability to drain stamina from the victim, but that would create problems with the math and the overall logic of MLLR, because, AFAIK, in Elin, the succubus also gets an additional stamina cost for the drain, which is exactly what’s implemented in MLLR. So, it turns out that the succubus pays more stamina for the drain, and yet immediately gets it back plus extra from victim.

Succubus config:

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Succubus extra stamina cost:

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The current logic behind draining mechanic you can see here and here.

[JustHare]

More Lovin' Library Reworked 1.14.1

CHANGELOG

MoreLovinLibraryReworked_1.14.1.zip

[bitnuke]

13 hours ago, JustHare said:

In the latest update I’m working on, there’s now the ability to drain HP/mana and saturation from succubus victims without killing them (except perhaps through stamina).

Yep. That's what i was describing. 

 

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The current logic behind draining mechanic you can see here and here.

Yep. Seen the code. It's designed for victim stats to not go below zero (except STA). 

 

My point was: If that's the behavior a player wants, cool! But if a player wants the opposite: Combat-sex by drainkilling opponents, then there is no way configure it like that. 

 

Unrelated potential bugreport: I'm almost certain that drain kicks in on prositution, even if the option for drain on consensual sex is disabled. Yet when i look through the sourcecode, i don't see why this would happen. The code from what i can tell treats prostitution like a consensual encounter, so drain should not happen. Yet ingame it seems like the STA-penalty for drain is applied. Not sure if the error is on my side, or hidden somewhere in the code.

Edited August 24 by bitnuke

[JustHare]

2 hours ago, bitnuke said:

Yet ingame it seems like the STA-penalty for drain is applied. Not sure if the error is on my side, or hidden somewhere in the code.

Hm, that is very strange. I'll look into it.

[Hakoyu]

Hello, I added a Chinese translation for this mod, can you add it to the mod?
Mod_MoreLovinLibraryReworked.zip

Edited August 25 by Hakoyu

[JustHare]

On 8/25/2026 at 7:15 AM, Hakoyu said:

Hello, I added a Chinese translation for this mod, can you add it to the mod?
Mod_MoreLovinLibraryReworked.zip

Yeah, not a problem.

[bitnuke]

New Elin and Better Succubus version out. I have not tried either yet, since it's too early for the mod ecosystem to have fully updated.

 

According to the changelog, the new/current Elin version seems to be mostly content and few under the hood changes. The following Elin version (in 1-2 months) will have major changes including home story expansion, which implies new mechanics. This means in 1-2 weeks from now, the current Elin version will likely become the stable modding platform for months, since the planned next version will break all kinds of shit. 

Edited Thursday at 09:24 PM by bitnuke