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Posted (edited)

If cables are truly this sh*t these days then all bets are off on power delivery and random shutdowns:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ2FsIT61sQ

 

Video shows how to spot bad cables using HWiNFO64, assuming you have per-pin sensors. I'm not surprised 4090 and 5090 cables are melting, half the pins are probably not even touching anything, or falling out on their own. Pathetic.

 

Edit: MaKiN WoRkI CaPlEs Iz DiFfCuLt In 2025, We CaNt MaEk CaPlEz AnYmOaR, BaD!1.

 

Edit again: We apparently went to the moon in the 70's 60's. We had cables back then.

Edited by traison
  • 4 months later...
Posted

Slight necromancy of this topic, for the sake of stating a theory and attempt at a new solution:

 

The New Background:

I ran VANILLA Starfield.  Everything was good for the prologue.  The mine, character creation, landing pad fight, flying in space, first pirate POI, more flying.  Then I arrived at New Atlantis.  Get out of the ship, take one step out on foot.... CRASH.

The Suspect:

I have those killer DIMMs.  They're tested at 5200MT/s.  But... for some reason (probably some phobic overreaction to something I didn't understand when I built the PC), I had XMP turned off and my DRAM frequency set to Auto, which kept it fixed at 4000MT/s.  According to Grok and Gemini, this is a "No shit you're crashing.  The Creation engine will absolutely KO your system if you bottleneck it like that."

The Proposed Solution:

Turn on XMP.  Set the DRAM frequency to 4800.

 

Does this sound like a valid answer?

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, VenomousOuroboros said:

According to Grok and Gemini, this is a "No shit you're crashing.  The Creation engine will absolutely KO your system if you bottleneck it like that."

 

It's always nice to see we have nothing to worry about with AI for the forseeable future.

 

5 hours ago, VenomousOuroboros said:

Does this sound like a valid answer?

 

Unlikely. Enabling XMP will take the memory DIMMs to their advertized speed, but it will also:

  • Void warranty.
  • Overclock the memory, and memory controller.

To put that another way, the advertized speed is not the speed the memory was intended to run at if you want to use it "within spec" as it were. It's borderline false advertizing; obvious false advertizing if you have any common sense.

 

Edit: Perhaps should clarify that I would still keep XMP enabled. Everyone has XMP enabled. Just don't expect to have a good time with customer service if it comes to that. Back in the day no one cared about warranty because if something went wrong it was $60 down the proverbial drain. This may be more important than before now that RAM is x10 price.

 

Did you ever check the motherboard and CPU memory QVL? If your DIMMs are not on the QVLs, then that could explain your issues.

Edited by traison
Posted

Well...

1) Upping the freq. to 4800 didn't fix the problem.

2) Checked the QVL for the motherboard.  The exact model of CPU and RAM check out.

3) I'll finally do it.  I'll yank the DIMMs from the A1 and B1 slot.  I guess I'll have to survive on 96GB like some... plebeian.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, VenomousOuroboros said:

Well...

1) Upping the freq. to 4800 didn't fix the problem.

2) Checked the QVL for the motherboard.  The exact model of CPU and RAM check out.

3) I'll finally do it.  I'll yank the DIMMs from the A1 and B1 slot.  I guess I'll have to survive on 96GB like some... plebeian.

 

You need to remove all but one of them, your looking for a faulty one so if you leave two in you won't know which is faulty if you still have an issue

 

I had similar issue (although with only 64GB) and that’s what the PC manufacturer instructed me to do and after trying all 4 of the 16GB sticks i did find a faulty one as the PC crashed pretty much straight away with only the bad module to use so i had to get by with 48 GB of RAM for a week (made little difference tbh) while i sent off the faulty one and had it replaced

 

If your still wary contact whoever made your PC and after doing some pointless trouble shooting (like check the OS etc) they will probably tell you to do exactly what traison has suggested and at least that way you can always say, you told me to do it

 

 

 

Edited by pinky6225

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