Sheppi23 Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 My Skyrim version: Skyrim Special Edition: 1.6.1170.0 I use FNIS, Nemesis and WryeBash. Now my load order and then the questions: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm 06 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl 07 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl 08 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm 09 _ResourcePack.esl 0A unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp [Version 4.3.6c] 0B Immersive Wenches.esp 0C SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.8] 0D CreatureFramework.esm 0E SexLab.esm [Version 2.0] 0F Treescale.esm 10 3DNPC.esp 11 BSAssets.esm 12 BSHeartland.esm 13 NoBrokenWhiterunTower.esp 14 Better Dynamic Snow SE - DisableRefs.esm 15 1Cernunnos.esl 16 Embers XD.esm 17 Lux - Resources.esp 18 Lux Via.esp 19 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 1A Dismembering Framework.esm 1B Environs Master Plugin.esp [Version 2.00] 1C TheNewGentleman.esp 1D Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl 1E High Poly Head.esm 1F Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm [Version 2.05.021] 20 UIExtensions.esp 21 SkyUI_SE.esp 22 Better Dynamic Snow SE.esp 23 Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp 24 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 25 RaceMenu.esp 26 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 27 HousesShopsInns.esp 28 Thaumaturgy.esp 29 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp [Version 2.9.5] 2A Northern Roads.esp 2B COTN - Dawnstar.esp 2C Animal_Research.esp 2D COTN - Morthal.esp 2E Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp 2F Lux Via - Brighter lighting patch.esp 30 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp [Version 7.0.2] 31 soundsofskyrimcomplete.esp 32 Lustful Animals.esp 33 RedBag's Morthal.esp 34 HappyLittleTrees.esp 35 Lux Via - plugin.esp 36 Bandit War.esp 37 Embers XD.esp 38 OBIS SE.esp [Version 2500] 39 ZaForswornStory.esp 3A Environs - Abandoned Abodes.esp [Version 1.04] 3B Environs - Abandoned Abodes - COTN Dawnstar Patch.esp 3C Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul.esp 3D SnoipehMoreCreatures.esp 3E waccf_armor and clothing extension.esp [Version 1.6.0] 3F DIbella's Blessing.esp 40 Environs - Hroggars House.esp 41 Environs - Hroggars House - Redbags Morthal Patch.esp 42 MoreNastyCritters.esp 43 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 44 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 45 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 46 Pilgrim.esp 47 Environs - Hroggars House - COTN Morthal Patch.esp 48 Environs - Abandoned Abodes - COTN Morthal Patch.esp 49 KS Hairdo's.esp 4A Damsels Breeding Slaves.esp 4B HentaiCreatures.esp 4C SnowOverSkyrim.esp 4D Turn of the Seasons.esp 4E TOTS - Icy Waterways.esp 4F Environs - Kolskeggr.esp [Version 3.03] 50 Kolskeggr TGC Addon - Environs Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Kolskeggr Mine - TGC Addon.esp 51 Stealth Skills Rebalanced.esp [Version 2.0.3] 52 RiftenExtension.esp 53 mihaildismemberthosemudcrabs.esp 54 Common Clothes and Armors.esp [Version 2.0.0] 55 Nightingale Hall.esp 56 Lux Via - More Lantern Posts.esp 57 SkyrimSewers.esp [Version 4.14] 58 Riften Docks Overhaul.esp 59 WiZkiD Pavo's House.esp 5A Environs - Kolskeggr - Pavos House Patch.esp 5B Environs - Shrines of Talos.esp [Version 3.02] 5C 1SixthHouse.esp 5D Vanilla Intro Fix.esp 5E Environs - Abandoned Abodes - Open Cities Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Open Cities Skyrim.esp 5F mihaildismemberthosechaurus.esp 60 SofiaFollower.esp 61 Riften Docks Pathways SE.esp 62 Cisterns of Skyrim - Distribution.esp 63 Sounds of Towns and Cities.esp 64 mihailsewerrat.esp 65 Environs - Hroggars House - Holds The City Overhaul Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Holds.esp 66 Environs - Greenwood Shack.esp 67 Blacksmith Chests.esp 68 Environs - Whiterun Watchtower.esp [Version 3.00] 69 DK_Thogra.esp 6A Environs - Shrines of Talos - Open Cities Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Open Cities Skyrim.esp 6B Environs - Tundra Farmhouse.esp 6C RedBag's Morthal - cc fishing patch.esp 6D Environs - Shrines of Talos - Lux Orbis Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Lux Orbis.esp 6E 3BBB.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: FlowerGirls SE.esm 6F Children of the North.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: RSkyrimChildren.esm ----> MISSING MASTER: RSChildren.esp 70 Cisterns of Skyrim - Functional Rain Barrels for CACO.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp 71 Cloaks_WACCF_Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Cloaks.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 72 DDArmpitHair.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: DWwearableArmpithair.esl 73 DF - Xtudo Creature Pack - 4thUnknown Daedra.esp [Version 1] ----> MISSING MASTER: 1Daedra.esp 74 DF - Xtudo Creature Pack - 4thUnknown Ogrims.esp [Version 1] ----> MISSING MASTER: 1Ogrims.esp 75 DF - Xtudo Creature Pack - Ancient Falmer Ruins.esp [Version 1] ----> MISSING MASTER: Ancient Falmer-Snow Elf Ruins.esp 76 DF - Xtudo Creature Pack - ccbgssse003-zombies.esp [Version 2] ----> MISSING MASTER: ccbgssse003-zombies.esl 77 DF - Xtudo Creature Pack - ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esp [Version 1] ----> MISSING MASTER: ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl 78 DF - Xtudo Creature Pack - GRAHL.esp [Version 1] ----> MISSING MASTER: GrahlsOnSolstheim.esp 79 DF - Official Creature Pack.esp 7A DF - Xtudo Creature Pack - Mihail's Wolves of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1] ----> MISSING MASTER: mihailwolvesofcyrodiil.esp 7B DF - Xtudo Creature Pack - Mihails Undead Snow Elves.esp [Version 1] ----> MISSING MASTER: mihailundeadsnowelf.esp 7C DF - Official Humanoid Pack.esp 7D DF RSV Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Racial Skin Variance - SPID.esp 7E 1Cernunnos.esp 7F Environs - Hroggars House - Spagettis Cities AIO Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Spaghetti's Cities - AIO.esp 80 Environs - Hroggars House - Spaghettis Morthal Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Spaghetti's Cities - Morthal.esp 81 Embers XD - Patch - Lux Via.esp 82 HorsesAreYourFriends.esp [Version 1.1.0] ----> MISSING MASTER: ccbgssse034-mntuni.esl 83 Hagraven varian.esp 84 Environs - Riften Warehouse.esp [Version 2.01] 85 Environs - Riften Warehouse - Holds Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Holds.esp 86 The Standing Sound Stones.esp 87 Environs - Western Watchtower - Northern Roads Patch.esp 88 Environs - Riften Warehouse - Riften Docks Overhaul Patch.esp 89 Environs - Riften Warehouse - Riften Docks Pathways Patch.esp 8A Environs - Riften Warehouse - Riften Southwoods Patch.esp 8B Environs - Riften Warehouse - Fish Market Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Fish Market Rustic.esp 8C Environs - Shrines of Talos - Lanterns of Skyrim II Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm 8D Environs - Shrines of Talos - Immersive Creatures Patch.esp 8E Environs - Western Watchtower - Lux Orbis Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Lux Orbis.esp 8F Environs - Tundra Farmhouse - 3DNPCs Patch.esp 90 Environs - Hroggars House - ClefJs Morthal Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: ClefJ's Morthal.esp 91 Environs - Kolskeggr - Lux Via Patch.esp 92 FSA_FindingSusannaAlive.esp 93 Comment_Manager.esp 94 Thogra - Bandit Camp Exterior.esp 95 Environs - Hroggars House - Mihail's Crows and Ravens Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: mihailcrowsandravens.esp 96 Environs - Kolskeggr - Enhanced Landscapes Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Enhanced Landscapes.esp 97 Environs - Riften Warehouse - ELFX Shadows Patch.esp [Version 2.00] ----> MISSING MASTER: EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 98 Environs - Riften Warehouse - ELFX Patch.esp [Version 2.00] ----> MISSING MASTER: EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 99 Environs - Shrines of Talos - Distinct Interiors Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Distinct Interiors.esp 9A Environs - Tundra Farmhouse - TKAA Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: TKAA.esp 9B Racemenu Handnails (Elin).esp ----> MISSING MASTER: ErinRace.esm 9C RSChildren_WACCF_Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: RSkyrimChildren.esm 9D TOTS - Aspen Realism.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Aspen Realism.esp 9E AnubAnimObj.esp 9F Wilding.esp A0 CreatureSummoner.esp A1 FluffworksMNC - Painted Cow.esp A2 zz_HorseOverhaul.esp A3 Fluffworks.esp A4 FluffworksMNC - Vanilla Horses.esp A5 FNIS.esp A6 SexLabDefeat.esp A7 SOS - Animal Addon.esp A8 ASOS.esp A9 ASOS Race Skeleton Patch.esp AA SLAnimLoader.esp AB PsycheAnimationObjects.esp AC EVGConditionalIdles.esp AD TrueDirectionalMovement.esp AE SOSPhysicsManager.esp AF CBBE.esp B0 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp B1 Bears of the North.esp B2 OStim.esp B3 Immersive Wenches2 - Ostim.esp B4 AwSofiaReplacer.esp B5 HPP - My fixes by Xtudo - Chopping Blocks.esp [Version 1] B6 HPP - FirewoodSnow.esp B7 HPP - Vaermina's Torpor.esp B8 Fluffworks - Dismembering Framework Patch.esp B9 DF - Xtudo Creature Pack - UderfrykteOpusGlass.esp [Version 1] BA TOTS - Happy Little Trees.esp BB TOTS - MountainCliffSlopeBounds.esp BC Static Objects Swap - Unique Wooden Bridges.esp BD Ivy Replacer BOS.esp BE Ivy Replacer BOS - Turn of the Seasons.esp BF SlaveTats.esp C0 SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp C1 PFA_MaleVariants.esp C2 Paf Fixes and Addons.esp C3 Northbourne NPCs of Hjaalmarch.esp C4 Cloaks&Capes SMP.esp C5 Improved Traps - Slightly Dangerous.esp [Version 2.5] C6 Northbourne NPCs of Falkreath Hold.esp C7 NorthbourneFalkreath_WACCF_Patch.esp C8 OBIS WACCF Patch.esp C9 VisualAnimatedEnchants2023.esp CA VisualAnimatedEnchants2-023 - WACCF Patch.esp CB cloaks&capessmp_ace_patch.esp CC Northbourne NPCs of the Rift.esp CD dibellasblessing_nightingalehall_patch.esp CE northbournenpcsoftherift_nightingalehall_patch.esp CF thaumaturgy_ace_patch.esp D0 thaumaturgy_ssr_patch.esp D1 ussep_ace_patch.esp D2 disparity.esp [Version 3.1.1] D3 ussep_disparity_patch.esp D4 waccf_survival mode_patch.esp D5 SOSRaceMenu.esp D6 XPMSE.esp D7 Dungeon Quests are not Miscellaneous.esp D8 WetFunction.esp D9 Bathing in Skyrim.esp DA OAroused.esp DB OSLAroused.esp [Version 2.7.0] DC OTracker.esp DD 3DNPC0.esp DE 3DNPC1.esp DF RTDocks - High Poly Head.esp E0 RiftenRatwayExitPath.esp E1 Vanilla hair remake SMP.esp E2 Dynamic NPC Hairstyles.esp E3 Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp E4 Dynamic NPC Hairstyles DnB Patch.esp E5 VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp E6 VisualAnimatedEnchants2023 - Thaumaturgy SkyPatched.esp E7 Environs - Kolskeggr - Houses Shops and Inns Patch.esp E8 Environs - Abandoned Abodes - 3DNPCs Patch.esp E9 Environs - Hroggars House - Lawless Patch.esp EA Gender_Specific_WW_TF_Sounds.esp EB Scorching of Skeevers.esp EC shalidor's maze fixes.esp ED Animals Swim.esp EE BnP - Skinfix.esp EF Private Needs - Orgasm.esp F0 KSHairdosSMP.esp F1 BetterThirdPersonSelection.esp F2 IA710_LessAnnoyingGonarsGreed.esp F3 PilgrimCyrodiilPatch.esp F4 PilgrimOdinPatch.esp F5 Embers XD - Fire Magick Add-On.esp F6 Embers XD - Patch - Remove Snow.esp F7 Embers XD - Patch - Survival Mode.esp F8 NPCs Take Cover.esp F9 evgCLAMBER.esp FA Precision.esp FB Next-Gen Decapitations.esp FC AlternateHighPolyHead_SE.esp FD a-hph_LM-Sliders.esp FE Warrior_Paints3.esp FF Warrior_Paints2.esp 100 Warrior_Paints.esp 101 KhajiitBrowWhiskers.esp 102 LetYourHairDown.esp 103 HFs_Chests_remodel.esp 104 Gotobed.esp 105 Distant Rolling Thunder.esp 106 Cisterns of Skyrim - Functional Blood Vats.esp 107 Ambient Warfare.esp 108 amazinglockpicks.esp 109 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 10A AOS_EBT Patch.esp 10B Rumble - Crafting - AOS Patch.esp 10C Rumble - Jumping - AOS Patch.esp 10D Rumble - Swimming - AOS Patch.esp 10E Rumble - Weapons - AOS Patch.esp 10F Reverb Interior Sounds Expansion.esp 110 TrueStormsSE_AOS.esp 111 Reverb Interior Sounds Expansion_VolumeSlider_Rain.esp 112 Reverb Interior Sounds Expansion_VolumeSlider_Thunder.esp 113 AcousticTemplateFixes.esp 114 AcousticTemplateFixes_ReverbInteriorSounds.esp 115 MaximumCarnage.esp 116 New Hagravens.esp 117 WhiteStag.esp 118 EBT - IC PATCH.esp 119 BH_Body.esp 11A ZakiDirtBloodRacemenu.esp 11B ImperfectOverlays.esp 11C FIBBIeyebags.esp 11D NyrFollowerAssets.esp 11E Lux Via - Animated Container Snow shader fix.esp 11F Lux Via - Blended Roads Bridges Texture sets.esp 120 Solstheim Exterior Soundscapes.esp 121 Solstheim Exterior Soundscapes - All Maker Stones.esp 122 DungeonSoundOverhaul.esp 123 Afflicted Female Hand fix.esp 124 0BrynjolfReplacer.esp 125 dD-Larger Drips.esp 126 Racemenu Handnails.esp 127 LDD_LevisChoice_DetailMakeupSetforHPH.esp 128 KaliliesBrows.esp 129 CompleteVanillaEyeOverhaul_CVEObyLDD.esp 12A AretuzaEyesRemastered_CVEObyLDD.esp 12B SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp 12C titkit.esp 12D OverlayDistributionFramework.esp 12E Nordic Warmaiden Body Hair.esp 12F Dynamic Body Hair Overlays.esp 130 AIO SE TATTOOS.esp 131 High Poly Head Vampire Fix.esp 132 Conditional Expressions.esp 133 NiceBodyHair.esp 134 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 135 PSI.esp [Version 2] 136 HFs_Treacherous_honey.esp 137 mihailhumanfleshreplacer.esp 138 mihaildraugrkid.esp 139 Jop - BrumaPatch.esp 13A Whiterun Watchtower Doesnt Start Broken - Siberpunks Cut.esp 13B Northbourne NPCs Resources.esp 13C Northbourne NPCs of Whiterun Hold.esp 13D Northbourne NPCs of Winterhold.esp 13E Northbourne NPCs of Haafingar .esp 13F SexLabTools.esp 140 HDT-SMP Vanilla.esp 141 FadeTattoos.esp 142 Combat Wound.esp 143 DF - Xtudo Creature Pack - ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esp [Version 1] 144 DF - Xtudo Creature Pack - Hulking Draugr - Dragonborn DLC.esp [Version 1] 145 DismemberThoseSkeletons.esp 146 ForswornVarietyArmorPack.esp 147 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition - Falmer Overhaul patch by Xtudo.esp [Version 1] 148 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 149 Dovabear.esp 14A Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 14B Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: open cities skyrim.esp 14C Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: ELFXEnhancer.esp 14D Animal Research Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp 14E Environs - Abandoned Abodes - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp 14F Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp [Version 2.5.9] 150 1nivWICCloaks_COS_CCOR_Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Cloaks.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Cloaks_CCOR_Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: 1nivWICCloaks.esp 151 Smithing Perks Overhaul SE.esp [Version 2.2] 152 beyond skyrim bruma_ccor_patch.esp 153 cloaks&capessmp_ccor_patch.esp 154 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp [Version 400] 155 Ordinator_SSR_Patch.esp 156 SPO_Ordinator_Patch.esp 157 PilgrimOrdinatorPatch.esp 158 alternate start - live another life.esp [Version 4.2.5] 159 Alternate Start - Live Another Life_WACCF_Patch.esp 15A Lux.esp 15B Environs - Shrines of Talos - Lux - JK's Temple of Talos - Solitude Frescoes 2019 MAIN Patch.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: SolitudeTempleFrescoes.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: JK's Temple of Talos.esp ----> MISSING MASTER: Lux - JK's Temple of Talos patch.esp 15C Lux - Riften Docks Overhaul patch.esp 15D Environs - Tundra Farmhouse - Lux Patch.esp 15E Environs - Shrines of Talos - Lux Patch.esp 15F Environs - Kolskeggr - Lux Patch.esp 160 Environs - Riften Warehouse - Lux Patch.esp [Version 2.00] 161 Environs - Hroggars House - Lux Patch.esp 162 NAT-ENB.esp [Version 3.1.1C] 163 ATLAS Demisted.esp 164 ATLAS.esp 165 NAT-ENB GRIM patch.esp 166 SoS_NATENB_Patch.esp 167 WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp 168 NoGrassINCities.esp 169 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 2 days before my animations worked, now it's not the case anymore and I don't know how to find it out. All actors are "ignoring me" :/ As you can see here are the mods I have installed (on idea if they conflict, probably yes). The kinky mods are: SexLabAroused / ZaZAnimationPack /SexLab Aroused Creatures/ SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory /OStim/ SOS-Animal Addon/ Schlongs of Skyrim (I have a few problems with that, " SchlongsofSkyrim.dll not found or installed version is too old). Every enemy I engage, Human, Monster, animal doesn't do anything. The messages indicate "NPC is horny/will rape you etc..." or when I am wounded during combat and have to fight to resist, the enemy NPC "fusions" with my body and no animation is playing. Same with animals, no animation works. I don't even understand how the Arousal mod works: I just seduce randomly people and animals, spammign tha tseduce button to grow affection, number are all red even as they go up and way over the "arousal number to reach" and nothing happens. When I reduce the arousal to a minium, the number still much higher than the number I set and nothing happens " The actor is not interested in you ". Dialogue boxes I use have no effect at all on the targets. " NPC feels the urge to mate" nothing happens. Selecting NPC gives either green or red arousal numbers but the NPC continue their path..no reaction. What am I doing wrong ? I haven't modded Skyrim in 10 years. Thanks for the help!
Grey Cloud Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 (edited) You should have a/ followed a guide and b/ not installed hundreds of mods without testing as you go. Make sure all your mods are for Skyrim AE. This isn't right for starters: 31 minutes ago, Sheppi23 said: 42 MoreNastyCritters.esp 43 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 44 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 45 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp SLNC was obsolete with LE, it has been integrated into MNC for many, many, many years. Your problem with the SOS dll is probably down to the wrong version of SOS. Reinstall all those mods showing missing masters and do not choose patches for mods you do not have. Edited October 27, 2025 by Grey Cloud 2
DrSeptimus Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 Quote I use FNIS, Nemesis and WryeBash. I would recommend you to go for Pandora. 3 hours ago, Sheppi23 said: no animation is playing. Nemesis is known to have a lot of issues running creature animations even with FNIS support. Go for Pandora instead. Install Pandora and at the arguements set "--tesv:"D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition"" I set mine at D drive cause that's where my Skyrim folder is. Quote " SchlongsofSkyrim.dll not found or installed version is too old Grab the correct version here. Get 1170 since you are using 1170.
Sheppi23 Posted October 27, 2025 Author Posted October 27, 2025 Ok, I'll try pandora. Just got into a fight and Soldiers can attack without issues but sometimes they just freeze. Animals move but are stuck in T pose or suddenly sto pattacking even tho I get damaged. Let's hope Pandora will fix this. Pandora supports all the mods I mentionned right ?
DrSeptimus Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 1 hour ago, Sheppi23 said: Ok, I'll try pandora. Just got into a fight and Soldiers can attack without issues but sometimes they just freeze. Animals move but are stuck in T pose or suddenly sto pattacking even tho I get damaged. Let's hope Pandora will fix this. Pandora supports all the mods I mentionned right ? Yes... Also make sure every animations is SE version. If the animation is LE version, it could also result T pose. With many loverslab mod having the LE and SE at same pages, this kind of mix up is common.
Sheppi23 Posted October 27, 2025 Author Posted October 27, 2025 (edited) @DrSeptimus I followed your councel to use only Pandora. I removed FNis and Nemesis and now my Game perma crashes on start up On top of that, Fnis at least showed me where the errors were lying wiht instant log. Pandora seems to just compile everything and it's all perfect the whole time! But where are the error logs ? Why ? Now it's even worse I can't even start the game Edited October 27, 2025 by Sheppi23
Miauzi Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 Vor 25 Minuten sagte Sheppi23: @DrSeptimus Ich bin Ihrem Rat gefolgt und habe nur Pandora verwendet. Ich habe FNis und Nemesis entfernt und jetzt stürzt mein Spiel beim Start ständig ab. Darüber hinaus hat mir Fnis mit Instant Log zumindest gezeigt, wo die Fehler lagen. Pandora scheint einfach alles zu kompilieren und es ist die ganze Zeit alles perfekt! Aber wo sind die Fehlerprotokolle? Warum? Jetzt ist es noch schlimmer, ich kann das Spiel nicht einmal starten Crashes on startup often indicate missing "master" files. What program do you use to organize your mods?
Sheppi23 Posted October 27, 2025 Author Posted October 27, 2025 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Miauzi said: Crashes on startup often indicate missing "master" files. What program do you use to organize your mods? You mean what program DID I use.... :s I used Fnis and Nemesis together until this afternoon. Even tho I had missing Master files like you see in the Wrye Bash load order I published, the game worked! So, missing Masters is probably not the issue. The issue is, the second I removed Nemesis and Fnis and used Pandora to compile the scripts, the game stopped working. I don't know if Pandora is able to read all "older files" and compile them effortlessly, but Pandora just checks the list => compiled => all good. This is suspicious to me where Fnis actually found problems => CTD mod loads for example. As I had more than 10 000 files I had 88% crash probability so Fnis at least helped me know I had ot remove the script load, so I removed some heavy animation mods and went under 9000 animation script files. Pandora doesn't indicate anything. That is quite puzzling.... Crash logs don't work, I have no crash logs even tho I installed crash log mods. Crash Logger SSE AE VR - PDB support at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (doesn't show anything) All I can show you is what I see before the game crashes (picture). I don't get to the main menu. (before, while using Nemesis I had the " Shift+O" windows and the number of animations loading in the right upper corner). Edited October 27, 2025 by Sheppi23
traison Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 46 minutes ago, Sheppi23 said: I followed your councel to use only Pandora. Keep in mind that every version of Pandora has its own bugs. The current version I believe has at least these: Havok crash during Helgen intro. ZAZ animations are broken. 46 minutes ago, Sheppi23 said: I removed FNis and Nemesis... FNIS scripts should be kept even if you're using Pandora. Pandora contains the FNIS esp, but for some reason they neglected to include the scripts. XPMSE is perhaps the most common mod that will break without the scripts. You can also reinstall XPMSE without FNIS features. 47 minutes ago, Sheppi23 said: Game perma crashes on start up What @Miauzi said is the most likely problem. But if it isn't then post a crash log. See section 1 of the paper in my signature. 49 minutes ago, Sheppi23 said: But where are the error logs ? Engine.log in the same directory where Pandor was installed. Keep in mind however that it unfortunately does not say anything about incompatible animations or issues with FNIS animations. This (and the bugs I mentioned earlier) is why I keep FNIS around. Whenever there's a Havok related crash, or an animation problem, I rebuild behaviour files with FNIS and test again. FNIS is the only behaviour file generator that actually works.
DrSeptimus Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 51 minutes ago, Sheppi23 said: @DrSeptimus I followed your councel to use only Pandora. I removed FNis and Nemesis and now my Game perma crashes on start up On top of that, Fnis at least showed me where the errors were lying wiht instant log. Pandora seems to just compile everything and it's all perfect the whole time! But where are the error logs ? Why ? Now it's even worse I can't even start the game As Miauzi said, it often indicate master files is missing. And you have lot's of missing master files.
Sheppi23 Posted October 27, 2025 Author Posted October 27, 2025 Ok, thank you both for trying to help. I'll make a break for the moment. And I'll come back to you later with......Good news I hope.
Miauzi Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 Vor 8 Minuten sagte Sheppi23: Du meinst, welches Programm habe ich verwendet … :s Ich habe bis heute Nachmittag Fnis und Nemesis zusammen verwendet. Obwohl mir Master-Dateien fehlten, wie Sie in der von mir veröffentlichten Wrye Bash-Ladereihenfolge sehen, funktionierte das Spiel! Fehlende Master sind also wahrscheinlich nicht das Problem. Das Problem ist, dass das Spiel in dem Moment nicht mehr funktionierte, als ich Nemesis und Fnis entfernte und Pandora zum Kompilieren der Skripte verwendete. Ich weiß nicht, ob Pandora alle „älteren Dateien“ lesen und mühelos kompilieren kann, aber Pandora überprüft einfach die Liste => kompiliert => alles gut. Das ist mir verdächtig, wo Fnis tatsächlich Probleme gefunden hat => CTD-Mod-Ladevorgänge zum Beispiel. Da ich mehr als 10.000 Dateien hatte, lag die Absturzwahrscheinlichkeit bei 88 %, sodass Fnis mir zumindest zeigte, dass ich die Skriptlast reduzieren musste. Also entfernte ich einige schwere Animations-Mods und kam auf unter 9.000 Animationsskriptdateien. Pandora gibt keine Hinweise. Das ist ziemlich rätselhaft … Absturzprotokolle funktionieren nicht, ich habe keine Absturzprotokolle, obwohl ich Absturzprotokoll-Mods installiert habe. Crash Logger SSE AE VR – PDB-Unterstützung bei Skyrim Special Edition Nexus – Mods und Community (zeigt nichts an) Ich kann Ihnen nur zeigen, was ich sehe, bevor das Spiel abstürzt (Bild). Ich gelange nicht zum Hauptmenü. (Vorher, als ich Nemesis benutzte, hatte ich die "Shift+O"-Fenster und die Anzahl der Animationen, die in der rechten oberen Ecke geladen wurden.) I'm talking about things like "Vortex" or "Mod Organizer 2"... these are programs that help you install and manage mods. These tools also display warning messages if "master files" are missing. And how the user @Dr. Septimus already pointed out -> they are missing many master files - so I wonder how their game even started earlier
Grey Cloud Posted October 27, 2025 Posted October 27, 2025 17 minutes ago, DrSeptimus said: As Miauzi said, it often indicate master files is missing. The things you highlighted are patches but one of the mods being patched is not present. I mentioned these in my response to the OP. For instance the first entry in the list you posted is missing Open Cities.esp because Open Cities is not installed. 14 minutes ago, Miauzi said: I'm talking about things like "Vortex" or "Mod Organizer 2". They appear to be using Wrye Bash as their mod manager. The main problem here is user error.
Sheppi23 Posted October 28, 2025 Author Posted October 28, 2025 (edited) Ok I am back and it went all ass up for a reason or another. Time to do what everyone did at least once (or more) => uninstall everything and reinstall everything. At least, I kept the Nexus mods active so I can simply click and reinstall them one by one instead of redownloading 90 GB of mods. I'll try reinstall all mods I had but the ones I installed yesterday and which were responsible for the various problems I got (not only animations, seems like DAR and OAP don't mix up well together, that must have been what killed my game even with the FnisXXL 10 000 script barrier overrride version). And I won't use Pandora.......that's where all the mess started. PS: Miauzi, ja das Spiel hat ohne Master files funktionniert 😛. Die waren einfach nur nicht so wichtig für das Spiel, siehste ? Da hatt' ich wenigstens Glück 😛 Edited October 28, 2025 by Sheppi23
Miauzi Posted October 28, 2025 Posted October 28, 2025 Vor 4 Stunden sagte Sheppi23: Ok, ich bin zurück und aus dem einen oder anderen Grund ist alles den Bach runtergegangen. Es ist Zeit, das zu tun, was jeder mindestens einmal (oder öfter) getan hat: alles deinstallieren und alles neu installieren. Zumindest habe ich die Nexus-Mods aktiv gelassen, sodass ich sie einfach einzeln anklicken und neu installieren kann, anstatt 90 GB an Mods erneut herunterzuladen. Ich werde versuchen, alle Mods, die ich hatte, neu zu installieren, außer denen, die ich gestern installiert habe und die für die verschiedenen Probleme verantwortlich waren, die ich hatte (nicht nur Animationen, es scheint, als ob DAR und OAP nicht gut zusammenpassen, das muss der Grund gewesen sein, warum mein Spiel kaputtgegangen ist, sogar mit der FnisXXL 10.000-Version mit Skriptbarriere-Override). Und ich werde Pandora nicht verwenden … da hat das ganze Chaos angefangen. PS: Miauzi, ja das Spiel hat ohne Master files funktionniert 😛 . Die waren einfach nur nicht so wichtig für das Spiel, siehste ? Da hatt' ich wenigstens Glück 😛 I strongly recommend changing your mod organizer. I used Vortex for several years – which usually worked well. However, if I had a completely messed up mod image (i.e., nothing worked anymore), I had to choose the "atomic" option -> uninstall - delete - reinstall. Over time, I had a 1:1 copy of the installed vanilla Skyrim (in a protected directory), and I had all downloaded zipped mod archives in the directory provided by Vortex... those from Nexus went there automatically - I moved those from other sources there manually. Today I use "MO2" – it's harder to learn... but here on Loverslab, there's a very good tutorial for beginners. Why this change? -> because reinstalling the game is no longer necessary!! Unlike with "Vortex" (or other mod managers), there's no "physical" mixing of data in the original game's folder during installation... The vanilla game and mods remain in separate folders - they are only loaded when the game starts, according to the list in the INI file. The "atomic option" in "MO2" would be to delete this loading list - all files (from the original game and mods) are retained... so you can rebuild quite quickly. And thanks to the completely different organizational philosophy, I can also remove one or more mods from the "installation" list - since there's NO physical mixing with the vanilla part and/or other mods. 1
Grey Cloud Posted October 28, 2025 Posted October 28, 2025 4 hours ago, Sheppi23 said: Ok I am back and it went all ass up for a reason or another. Time to do what everyone did at least once (or more) => uninstall everything and reinstall everything. At least, I kept the Nexus mods active so I can simply click and reinstall them one by one instead of redownloading 90 GB of mods. I'll try reinstall all mods I had but the ones I installed yesterday and which were responsible for the various problems I got (not only animations, seems like DAR and OAP don't mix up well together, that must have been what killed my game even with the FnisXXL 10 000 script barrier overrride version). And I won't use Pandora.......that's where all the mess started. PS: Miauzi, ja das Spiel hat ohne Master files funktionniert 😛. Die waren einfach nur nicht so wichtig für das Spiel, siehste ? Da hatt' ich wenigstens Glück 😛 You are going to do what you did last time and will get yourself back to the same set of problems. Follow a guide. "DAR and OAP don't mix up well together" - if you mean DAR and OAR then you should not have both installed. OAR is the successor to DAR. The DAR/OAR animations have nothing to do with FNIS' animations or animation count. FNIS' does not have a 'script barrier'. There is a mod that has been around for years that removes the crashes caused by FNIS animation limit. Pandora works fine. And no, the game does not run with missing masters.
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