HearthFire Guilds

[Lokikun]

I'm glad to see the update is here. 

Already had a wild time trying to get into Riften in my tests, to fuffil comunnity service. 

 

[Dg75]

6 hours ago, Lokikun said:

I'm glad to see the update is here. 

Already had a wild time trying to get into Riften in my tests, to fuffil comunnity service. 

 

I may need to give a little more info on the mod page as their are specifics that the mcm tries to explain, but has too little space to put it all in.

So if having any difficulties, I will update mod page soon with more info and how to's. Or be sure to ask. 

[Dg75]

I updated the mod page. Added a more descriptive spoiler. 

I Recommend to read through It ! 

Added some patches. See patches spoiler

Edited March 26 by Dg75

[johnhamm]

I really like this! Another consequence of not paying your debts could be a follower/friend/lover/spouse taken as collateral. If you don't pay, then they can be whored out, used as furniture, amputated, enslaved, or sent to another mod for enslavement or something. Maybe you could nominate someone as collateral when you get membership to reduce the base interest rate, or when you get the debt letter or meet the steward you could offer up someone with you to give time to pay back the debt. Or maybe they just take whoever is with you and ransom them to make sure that you pay? Lots of options. I've also never seen the amputator used in actual gameplay anywhere else lol

[Dg75]

On 4/9/2026 at 7:55 AM, johnhamm said:

Another consequence of not paying your debts could be a follower/friend/lover/spouse taken as collateral

Sounds interesting, but would take much to make that happen, an entire new tracking system for, Ai packages created and lots more scripts.

Something like this may be its own mod that uses the Community service, but for followers..

I'll keep it in mind.

Edited April 11 by Dg75

[SkyAddiction]

On 4/10/2026 at 7:17 PM, Dg75 said:

Sounds interesting, but would take much to make that happen, an entire new tracking system for, Ai packages created and lots more scripts.

Something like this may be its own mod that uses the Community service, but for followers..

I'll keep it in mind.

 

You could just send them to Follower Slavery Mod.

 

I just updated this and started playing around with the SkyTab feature. You've made what just might be the most dangerous tool in modding. It's so incredibly easy to blow through gold just picking up things you need. I think I went through about 150k in two hours just grabbing soul gems and ingots for a final round of enchantments and armor. I have the cash, but damn will that be dangerous at low levels.

 

You should make the gold level cheaper. 

[Dg75]

7 hours ago, SkyAddiction said:

You could just send them to Follower Slavery Mod.

Kool ! I just downloaded it. I'll check it out and see what I can do with it.

 

"I think I went through about 150k in two hours"

"you should make the gold level cheaper"

 

Community Service is a great way to start paying it back. 

Edited April 19 by Dg75

[Dg75]

On 4/19/2026 at 3:31 AM, SkyAddiction said:

You should make the gold level cheaper.

did you mean in order to purchase the guild memberships ?

Edited April 24 by Dg75

[SkyAddiction]

8 hours ago, Dg75 said:

did you mean in order to purchase the guild memberships ?

 

Yeah.

 

Instead of... what is it? 1,500 total gold to get access to SkyTab? Make it something more like 50/100/150 for Bronze/Silver/Gold.

 

New aspiring adventurer wanders into Whiterun: What's that? I can trade in this ingot and a couple potions and get armor and weapons on credit and just go out adventuring? Deal! What can possibly go wrong with this plan?

 

I already changed it in the CK, but there are plenty of people who are afraid to even open it, so I imagine there might be an audience for easier access to obscene risk in the official mod itself.

[tRUEbORN201990]

Hey. Am i missing something? when i talk to the steward i can get info on the memberships but no buy option. only i need to think about it option.

[Oromisism]

22 minutes ago, tRUEbORN201990 said:

Hey. Am i missing something? when i talk to the steward i can get info on the memberships but no buy option. only i need to think about it option.

 

Yeah, got the same problem

[Dg75]

On 4/25/2026 at 4:42 AM, tRUEbORN201990 said:

Hey. Am i missing something? when i talk to the steward i can get info on the memberships but no buy option. only i need to think about it option.

 

On 4/25/2026 at 5:05 AM, Oromisism said:

 

Yeah, got the same problem

Oops. This is just fixed in the 1.5.1 update. 

It was checking as dialogue condition - gold count - on stewy rather than the player. 

Its fixed now. 

 

If any more issue with the purchase see the spoiler below to bypass it.

 

Spoiler

You can skip purchases by setting a global to value using the console. Valid values are 1(Bronze) 2(silver) or 3(Gold)

Open console and type in < Set DG_HGuildsGuildLevel to 3 >   without the <> and done you can open mcm and enable skytab (if set to 3) 

 

Edited May 1 by Dg75

[bondfan86]

I purchased bronze, but it feels like the debt added is ridiculously low? Just the 50 flawless diamonds included would be enough to pay the 25k back several times over, is this the fault of some other mod/setting I’m using, am I supposed to simply never sell the building materials, or am I simply missing something?

[Dg75]

On 5/14/2026 at 6:57 AM, bondfan86 said:

I purchased bronze, but it feels like the debt added is ridiculously low? Just the 50 flawless diamonds included would be enough to pay the 25k back several times over, is this the fault of some other mod/setting I’m using, am I supposed to simply never sell the building materials, or am I simply missing something?

I set it 25k because its still a lot but not too much. Yes it is very below the value of what you get.

If I set the actual value it would be astronomically ridiculous!

Do you have a better suggestion of what it should be ?

Edited May 23 by Dg75

[bondfan86]

8 hours ago, Dg75 said:

I set it 25k because its still a lot but not too much. Yes it is very below the value of what you get.

If I set the actual value it would be astronomically ridiculous!

Do you have a better suggestion of what it should be ?

 

I barely used hearthfire (I only got a house to have a reason to use this mod because I like the idea of being in debt), so I don't know if all that stuff, especially the super valuable light weight stuff like all the gems, is needed, maybe that could be lowered?

 

Alternatively it could be like a subscription, an eternal debt that is indeed astronomical and never paid off (I actually really like that, and then skytab could raise required monthly payments)

 

I don't think there are many like me who'd also think that a sentence in the description "don't sell the stuff you get or it breaks balance" is an appropriate fix, but for me it would be

Edited May 23 by bondfan86

[Dg75]

6 hours ago, bondfan86 said:

 

I barely used hearthfire (I only got a house to have a reason to use this mod because I like the idea of being in debt), so I don't know if all that stuff, especially the super valuable light weight stuff like all the gems, is needed, maybe that could be lowered?

 

Alternatively it could be like a subscription, an eternal debt that is indeed astronomical and never paid off (I actually really like that, and then skytab could raise required monthly payments)

 

I don't think there are many like me who'd also think that a sentence in the description "don't sell the stuff you get or it breaks balance" is an appropriate fix, but for me it would be

The gems are for whatever but ideally for crafting and enhancing enchantment tables with the ordinator mod if used. 

Other than that you should only pull from the delivery chest the items of interest. 

Really the building material bit is more of a cheater to get crafting stuff in abundance and is 100% optional. 

If you like debt - Get into skytab with the gold membership, you'll always be in some kind of debt. Payment amounts can be 

specified in the mcm to match your own difficulty expectations, unless game mode is enabled then a minimum is pre specified.

 

I like the subscription idea, I'll think on it. I'll just need to figure out how to tie it in. 

I can also rebalance the interest to fluctuate per amount owed. Right now its just a generic 

user defined amount that only raises when delinquent. 

Edited May 23 by Dg75

[pingbi146]

I seem to be getting some sort of bug where my 'amount owed' just gets reset so I just get everything for free, it seems like I can reset it by going through the dialogue options again, but it would be nice if it worked first time
[problem has persisted over several saves]

[brololo]

for the prostitution part of this mod can i use any mod to whore myself out or do i need a specific one

[Dg75]

On 7/13/2026 at 7:26 AM, brololo said:

for the prostitution part of this mod can i use any mod to whore myself out or do i need a specific one

it has to be done specifically through Hfire dialogue: either speak to an innkeeper or a merchant.

[Dg75]

On 7/13/2026 at 7:13 AM, pingbi146 said:

I seem to be getting some sort of bug where my 'amount owed' just gets reset so I just get everything for free, it seems like I can reset it by going through the dialogue options again, but it would be nice if it worked first time
[problem has persisted over several saves]

I'll look into it.

which dialogue is resetting amount owed ?

Edited July 26 by Dg75

[pingbi146]

1 hour ago, Dg75 said:

I'll look into it.

which dialogue is resetting amount owed ?

It seems that I wrote the problem in a needlessly confusing way for some reason, the problem I'm having is:
I talk to blacksmith, get bronze level, I later talk to stewart, get gold level, the correct debt is added, time passes, debt is randomly cleared/reset to 0 and skytab doesn't work anymore, seemingly removing me from HG
If I talk to blacksmith again, bronze level dialogue is back, selecting it seems to kickstart the mod and remind it that I do infact have gold level, but that initial 25000 debt is never reapplied

 

I will note that I never actually place the flag, and usually just throw it into a container, because really, I just want the credit card lol, but I have a feeling that this might be a part of the reason

[Dg75]

3 hours ago, pingbi146 said:

I will note that I never actually place the flag, and usually just throw it into a container, because really, I just want the credit card lol, but I have a feeling that this might be a part of the reason

Probably! 

You should only talk to Blacksmith if you wanting the flag to place for bulk building supplies

otherwise just talk to steward and go straight for the gold membership if just wanting cc. 

I'll look this over searching for an exception if user tossed the flag. . probably not one there !

are you getting a message notification "You cannot set a delivery spot here." when you toss or place the flag into a chest ?

 

edit: 

just checked the scripts and it appears if you initiated the bulk supplies dialogue through Blacksmith but never set the flag - 

then in 24 hours later, the script sees the flag not being set and resets the dialogue and flag var, and in the process sets a script var-

InProgress to false. - I need to edit this to only reset the InProgress var if Debt Owed is 0

with this InProgress being false then any debt owed would register 0 in the mcm 

 

If in between you purchased skytab by talking to steward

skytab itself doesn't appear to reference the InProgress, but when things are charged it should set the InProgress to true.

So not sure why SkyTab would stop working unless it got suspended from being delinquent on payment - try talking to stew 

and see if it gets re-enabled.

Edited July 26 by Dg75

[pingbi146]

10 hours ago, Dg75 said:

Probably! 

You should only talk to Blacksmith if you wanting the flag to place for bulk building supplies

*Snip*

It was my understanding that you cannot get gold unless you first get bronze
BUT!
Thank you for explaining, I suppose I will try just going direct to steward next time, if that doesn't work I could always just throw the flag onto a random HF property and forget that it exists at that point