Problem with body switching.

[shardoom]

Okay so I recently added the new animations download by Amra and am now facing a peculiar problem.

 

When my character strips down to 'get down' his body type switches from Breeze to Roberts.

I've narrowed the problem down to the breeze patch but was told to make a new thread here.

 

Also when the breeze patch is added (animated penis) the penis often no longer lines up correctly with the females vagina/anus. This only occurs on the animations NOT included in the new download however, all of those work correctly.

 

 

 

FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
CaravanPack.esm
NSkies URWLified.esm
ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm
ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm
NVEC Complete + NVCE.esm
NosCo Companion System.esm
AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm
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NVInteriors_ComboEdition_AWOP.esm
NVStripOpen.esm
SpeedyResources.esm
Lings.esm
RHKGilbertCompanion.esm
SarahLyonsCompanion.esm
More Perks.esm
SomeguySeries.esm
RedRockRanch.esm
JasmineforNCCS.esp
drgNV - Melissa Companion.esm
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qSkillPerks - More Perks.esp
REZBajaIslandHome.esp
PhoenixPoint.esp
Novac Public Library.esm
Tales from the Burning Sands.esm
The New Bison Steve Hotel.esm
Afterschool Special.esm
domecity.esm
RockwellPursuit.esm
jomoxxi.esp
wsex.esm
Sexout.esm
SexoutPregnancyV3.esm
SexOutMDJJFollowerBase.esm
SexoutStore.esm
Daughters of Ares.esp
SexoutCommonResources.esm
NSkies URWLifiedDM.esp
DarNifiedUINV.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
JIP Realistic Weapon Overheating.esp
SmallerTalk.esp
Vitomatic.esp
st.esp
Max Level 100.esp
PerkEveryLevel.esp
CASM.esp
Readius_NV.esp
MojaveOutpostCleanUp.esp
clean paper trash remover.esp
Sinclair Edition.esp
TFH HD Gauss Rifle.esp
ae86seiryuu.esp
SapphireNV.esp
christinecos.esp
GRA-WRP-Patch-Two_Unofficial.esp
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L96.esp
Jaguar MSX200 LMG NV.esp
HiVEnv.esp
StripOpenMain.esp
RaiderChains.esp
SCS - CombatArmour.esp
NVRefugee Outfits.esp
Liberty Loft.esp
Classic energy weapons.esp
TheLozza's_Gasmasks.esp
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JustAnArmorPack_NV.esp
Odins Magazines.esp
HellFire Armor.esp
EMR-StealthSuitMkII.esp
AWOPDeadMoney.esp
AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp
AWOP Interior Music.esp
AWOP - Balance and Cleanup.esp
NVEC Complete NVCE AWOP Patch.esp
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T-51b Retexture.esp
XVEnclaveBunker.esp
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SexoutZAZ.esp
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Paradise Lost.esp
Dalls_Birds_Nest.esp
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Revenge.esp
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veronica_overhaul_Dead_Money.esp
NVWillow.esp
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KatieNPC_eng.esp
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SarahConner.esp
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SexoutDiscounts.esp
SexoutRapist.esp
Daughters of Ares - Lings Patch.esp
Daughters of Ares - CouriersStash.esp
Merged Patch.esp

Total active plugins: 132
Total plugins: 132

 

 

Hopefully this can be remedied as these new animations are EXCELLENT, but, not so excellent if they mess up the existing animations.

[prideslayer]

I believe I asked in the other thread, but cannot remember, so I'll ask again.

 

When you installed Sexout Data, what male body did you select. Did you select Roberts at that time?

 

Did you perhaps download both of the meshes for Amra (there is one for each body type) and install both, or install the wrong one?

[shardoom]

Pride It was all working perfectly up until the point that I downloaded those new animations.

Even after that I downloaded the brand new core (82, was on 81) and made SURE I chose Breeze + armor fixes at the choice screen.

When I disable the breeze fix (from the new animations download section) the body switch no longer happens.

However the penis isn't animated and flexible, which is needed for those new anims.

Also, sometimes when the original anims play it's almost as if it's trying to use the animated penis, but doesn't know what shape it's meant to be, so it misses.

[prideslayer]

Ok.

 

I sent a PM to amra and asked why there are custom skeletons in those downloads as well. I don't know what skeletons they are or why they're there, but the only skeleton that should be used with Sexout is astymmas (which is included in core). I wonder if that's causing problems.

 

My apologies for getting on your case in that thread, your posts here are a lot clearer than they were over there, and this does indeed seem to be a problem with that mod. Unfortunately I can't verify that myself or check it for issues, due to an ongoing restore of a backup on my PC (typing this on laptop -- no games here), which has ruined my day and put me in a bad mood.

 

I'd paste exactly what you wrote in that last post in the other thread, or just link to this one.

 

Again, apologies. I thought you were having a problem with breezes itself or some conflict there, not with the breezes 'update' amra has provided.

[shardoom]

No worries, will do.

[Amra72]

Etes-vous sur d'avoir installé breezer.bsa contenu dans SexoutNG - Data 2.6.80, avez-vous vérifier dans votre répertoire d'installation que vous n'avez pas oubliez d'effacer d'anciennes textures de corps masculin, vérifiez dans data/Textures/characters/male.

Si il y'a des textures supprimez les !

Si le problème persiste suivez cette méthode d'installation :

Installez le corps de femme que vous désirez. Attention le mod Bouncing Natural Breasts modifie le squelette il faut donc l'installer en premier.

installez sexoutNG. Choisissez l'un des deux corps masculins proposé breeze ou roberts

installez le patch correspondant fourni sur la page de download

installé le mod

En dernier recourt commencer une nouvelle partie après l'installation.

Attention même si vous desinstallez SexoutNG Avec NMM le SexoutBodySuit ne se désinstalle pas

vous devrez l'effacer manuellement vous le trouverez dans Data/mesh/armorSexoutbodysuit

J'espère que ça vous aidera.

Are you sure you have installed breezer.bsa contained in SexoutNG - Data 02/06/80, did you check your installation directory that you do not forget to delete old male body textures, check data / Textures / characters / male.

If it there's textures delete!

If the problem persists follow this installation method:

Install the female body you want. Warning Bouncing Natural Breasts mod changes the skeleton so you have to install it first.

install sexoutNG Choose one of the two proposed male body breeze or roberts

install the corresponding patch provided on the download page

installed the mod

As a last resort start a new game after installing

Be careful even if you uninstall the SexoutNG  With NMM SexoutBodySuit does not uninstall

you will need to manually delete you find in Data / mesh / armor / Sexoutbodysuit

I hope it will help.

[D_ManXX2]

your using animated penis witch was using Roberts male body not breeze. i think you guys got it mixed up he is using mod from the Russian site causalmods right ??

 

If the body is messed up then you are using stuff from breeze and Roberts. keep to 1 body type and make sure if you use Roberts mesh you need Roberts textures too and not breeze. That was problem i previously got too.

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/48535

 

breeze mesh there is was never a mesh who where added to animated penis skeleton in order to fix this try Roberts that is what casualmod says by RSV2.

 

btw i can even prove you need Roberts, my rig i released here:

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24099-new-vegas-malefemale-and-creature-rig/

 

Was made with Roberts mesh and textures. Not breeze, there was never proper breeze mesh and textures created for animated penis.

[D_ManXX2]

Pride It was all working perfectly up until the point that I downloaded those new animations.

Even after that I downloaded the brand new core (82, was on 81) and made SURE I chose Breeze + armor fixes at the choice screen.

When I disable the breeze fix (from the new animations download section) the body switch no longer happens.

However the penis isn't animated and flexible, which is needed for those new anims.

Also, sometimes when the original anims play it's almost as if it's trying to use the animated penis, but doesn't know what shape it's meant to be, so it misses.

 

This cannot be fixed as easily the older animation where never created with the animated penis so if you use an older animation then penis becomes flacid. because those where created with breeze. And breeze has no animated penis support.

 

your gonna have to make choice, not installing the new animation and keep the animation for breeze correctly or live with the fact that the older animation are not working with animated penis. This cannot be fixed unless someone import all of the older animation in the astyma skeleton and make those animation with animated penis to fix the flacid penis.

 

As you can see this is not an easy fix.it will require allot of work converting those animations to animated penis.

[shardoom]

Ok just to be clear. In my game I have only EVER used breeze males. I have never even installed Roberts, EVER. The Roberts body type is being equipped (at a guess) via the sexout data, but, only when amra's breeze patch is installed for the flexy penis.

 

This isn't a case of dodgy textures. The textures actually are fine, they go from a perfect breeze body to a perfect Roberts body, which needless to say is quite confusing.

 

When it is in 'Roberts body mode' the new animations play perfectly. However, when an older animations plays Roberts is still switched to, and the penis does NOT work as it is supposed to.

 

I have tried reinstalling Breeze, Sexout and the new animation files. In dong this I have isolated the problem down to the skeletons added by the breeze patch. When the breeze patch is NOT applied the old animations work perfectly, no body swapping occurs but the new animation look terrible. Because the penis no longer animates...

[D_ManXX2]

 

 

All my animations were made with astyma skeleton

 

If this is the case, then maybe that is the problem Astyma maximum compatibility skeleton where never meant to be used by animators. he should have used Body extender instead like i did with my animation.

[shardoom]

If Amra takes on the gargantuan task of re-animating all of the older animations to comply with the penis bones/Roberts body then I'll more than happily switch to using the Roberts body.

Quite frankly these new animations are leaps and bounds ahead of anything else I've seen so far. (No disrespect intended, it's not as if ANY of the animations are within my ability to produce) Right now I'm leaning towards turning these new animations off though, which is giving me a REALLY sad face.

 

All my animations were made with astyma skeleton

 

If this is the case, then maybe that is the problem Astyma maximum compatibility skeleton where never meant to be used by animators. he should have used Body extender instead like i did with my animation.

 

 

[D_ManXX2]

converting them is not that hard, but really tidieus. doing 10 is no problem but when you reach a 100 it becomes a chore, and you don't want to do anymore of it.

 

 

[prideslayer]

 

All my animations were made with astyma skeleton

 

If this is the case, then maybe that is the problem Astyma maximum compatibility skeleton where never meant to be used by animators. he should have used Body extender instead like i did with my animation.

 

It will not hurt anything using it, but you must know exactly what you're doing, as it has a lot of duplicated bones in it, since it has the breast bones from both BX and BnB, for example.

[prideslayer]

A side note: If someone wants to take the included breezes mesh and edit the penis to use the roberts bone, just send me the NIF and I'll package it in the next DATA download update. That way the bones would work with both bodies, and amra's mod could stop with the bodysuit business.

 

EDIT: that is, if bodysuits are actually happening. I am not sure but I don't actually think they are. I do not remember seing an esm/esp in the download, which would be required for that to happen.

[nyaalich]

Does anyone know how difficult it would be to convert/use the texture of Breeze for Robert for the body suit?  I tried using Robert's to deal with the body swapping, but it makes ghouls look like they went through a full body cheese grater.  It's a dramatic difference from Breeze.

[nyaalich]

FYI:  Amra put a v3 of the Breeze patch in the support thread.  It's working for me.