Nuked Skyrim, and need help to organize things better next time ...

[Redflyingmonkey]

Hello, I just nuked all my skyrim the barbarian way, right clicked on the fucking folder and put it in the fucking bin while eating a raw steak dripping with infant beef blood. 
Anywho, I was wondering if any of you had any advice for me so I wouldn't screw up my skyrim next time. I'm going to install Mod Organizer instead of the crappy NMM and I'm kind of lost.
Like, can I take the whole NMM unzipped mods folder and put it in the Mod Organizer's folder ?
Also, my most important mods being interesting NPCs, frostfall, cloak of skyrim, dual sheath redux and some gameplay enhancement mods, should I install them before the Sexlab ones or after ? 

Thanks
 

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Ask awefularchedemon he is all into MO he also made some topic with tutorial on this site.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/20492-mod-organizer/

[Redflyingmonkey]

Noice ! Thanks, I should've looked a bit longer for Mod Manager instead of choosing the easy way   Still, I really want a clean and stable install this time, and most of the shitstorm I've been going through came from a wrong installation of script heavy mods on Loverslab, if my computer had hands it would slap my ass a hundred times and call me his bitch. Anyway, do you happen to know which mods here run the most smoothly with Frostfall/Realistic Needs and Disease and SkyRe ? 

[Corpus Vile]

Hello, I just nuked all my skyrim the barbarian way, right clicked on the fucking folder and put it in the fucking bin while eating a raw steak dripping with infant beef blood. 

Anywho, I was wondering if any of you had any advice for me so I wouldn't screw up my skyrim next time. I'm going to install Mod Organizer instead of the crappy NMM and I'm kind of lost.

Like, can I take the whole NMM unzipped mods folder and put it in the Mod Organizer's folder ?

Also, my most important mods being interesting NPCs, frostfall, cloak of skyrim, dual sheath redux and some gameplay enhancement mods, should I install them before the Sexlab ones or after ? 

Thanks

A quick answer anyway: don't worry about the installation order, nothing will be overwritten by anything and you'll be able to adjust the mod priority afterwards.

I can't answer your first question because I can't remember how the NMM stores mods, but, anyway, you can move the contents of your entire "downloads" folder (the zipped mods, that is), and drop them in the MO's downloads folder; the MO will detect them and you'll be able to quickly reinstall them through it (--> "downloads" tab in the MO).

 

Also, if you want to feel even manlier, shift+del the thing next time. The recycle bin is for little boys.

[Redflyingmonkey]

 

A quick answer anyway: don't worry about the installation order, nothing will be overwritten by anything and you'll be able to adjust the mod priority afterwards.

I can't answer your first question because I can't remember how the NMM stores mods, but, anyway, you can move the contents of your entire "downloads" folder (the zipped mods, that is), and drop them in the MO's downloads folder; the MO will detect them and you'll be able to quickly reinstall them through it (--> "downloads" tab in the MO).

 

Also, if you want to feel even manlier, shift+del the thing next time. The recycle bin is for little boys.

 

Aha, I'm still a hairy ball short of being a true barbarian I guess  

So MO doesn't overwrite anything, that's awesome ! Still got an issue with the load order and the conflicting mods, BOSS screwed up my load order, doing whatever it wanted, mainly because it never recognized LL's mods masters or simply didn't recognize the masters for a particular sexlab patch, so it just put everything on the bottom... 

I should probably ask this in the adult mods section tho ? 

 

Thanks for the info guys by the way

[gvman3670]

For starters, try using TES5Edit on the Skryim, Update, Dawnguard, Hearthfire and Dragonborn .esm files before even adding a single mod. Start with a nice, clean slate. Be sure to have the Unofficial Patches to all of them, too.

 

From there it will all be smooth sailing, especially if using MO. Just don't go adding any mods, definitely not script-heavy mods, after you have the game in play. Do all the modding beforehand. You'll avoid a lot of nonsense that way.

[judge0]

Read through this web site before you do anything:

 

http://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.2.7

 

Very good advice here.

[Redflyingmonkey]

Thanks, I've already seen the step project before but never looked for a long time, now that I read this carefully, I think I'm going to follow their stuff before doing crap again. 

And I've never really believed in TESVEdit's power to really solve major issues with the cleaning. I played on my last laptop more than 200 hours on a single save full of dirty mods and their cleaning didn't really change anything. But I heard there is a master sorting and a merge plugin option in it right ? 

[gvman3670]

Thanks, I've already seen the step project before but never looked for a long time, now that I read this carefully, I think I'm going to follow their stuff before doing crap again. 

And I've never really believed in TESVEdit's power to really solve major issues with the cleaning. I played on my last laptop more than 200 hours on a single save full of dirty mods and their cleaning didn't really change anything. But I heard there is a master sorting and a merge plugin option in it right ? 

 

I've had OK play throughs without it, too. But not when I had a lot of mods added. Sooner or later it gets whacked. There are, if I remember correcty, over 900 dirty edits just in the Bethesda .esm files themselves (and referenced items no longer existing). It sure can't hurt to remove all that nonsense. I've cleaned them before adding mods on my last two runs and it's been the most trouble-free gaming experiences I've had in Skyrim.

 

There is a patch merge option and lots of other things in TES5Edit. I haven't used it myself, but it's in there. I just may merge all six of the SG Hairs .esp files now that I think about it. There are other nifty features as well.

[Redflyingmonkey]

I'm still kind of confused with MO and the guide had to be a video aha, I'm okay with talking and reading in english but I have problems following technical stuff when it's on a video Like, I just copied all of my NMM's download folder into MO's download folder, but half of my mods are not there ? 

[Corpus Vile]

That's strange, supposedly it picks up any .zip/.rar/.7z/etc archive you have in there, even if they're completely unrelated to Skyrim (obviously enough, just saying). I just tried creating an empty .zip in that folder (Mod Organizer/downloads) with the program running and it immediately appeared in the "downloads" tab in the MO.

 

Hmm. This is likely unneeded advice, but make sure they aren't in a folder of their own or anything like that.

Although... I recalled mods downloaded through the NMM to be simple compressed archives, but on second thought I could have easily been wrong. I'm sorry about that if that's the case.

[Redflyingmonkey]

Nah that's right, but I guess my windows ended the transfer early or something. I did it again and overwrote all the MO download file with NMM's and sexlab framework appeared in MO. Still I'm confused about the whole error messages I get sometimes, and when they ask to unpack BSA too. I've just installed the bare minimum right now, like SkyRe, sexlab framework and stuff after cleaning with TES5 (yeah I know, I said stuff but only morons never change their minds right ? aha). 
I'm kind of scared to install the more heavy mods right now like frostfall and the body meshes and the TBBP stuff etc... 

[Corpus Vile]

It's all right if it asks you to unpack the .BSA.

Don't quote me on this, but I think packed .BSAs need to be checked in the "archives" tab if you want them to follow the installation order in the left pane, otherwise they'll follow the load order if they have an associated .esp/not do anything if they don't have an .esp.

Or just unpack them, and they'll follow the priority order (left) as if you checked them in the "archives" tab. I personally just went with unpacking them whenever it asked me if I wanted to.

Anyone's welcome to correct me on this though, I could be wrong.

 

What kind of error messages do you get?

 

And lastly, I wouldn't worry about whether a mod is heavy or not, it doesn't make a difference; Frostfall can run without a problem from there, let alone body mods. You could add Wet & Cold, RN&D, CoT, Skyrim HD full, all the 'a Book of Silence' packs, ELFX, W.A.T.E.R., Dual Sheath redux and... you would have about 1/10 of the mods I run with. Worth noting: I can't remember the last time I got a CTD and no, I don't have any memory impairment or anything.

And lastly, I wouldn't worry about whether a mod is heavy or not, it doesn't make a difference; and yes, that was my idiotic little joke.

In all seriousness, that thing is made for this, fear not! you won't hurt it. And if you do that's ok, a great thing about the MO is that pretty much no change you make in it is irreversible.

 

P.S.: in all fairness, I did get a CTD once when I tried to load the entirety of the official HD pack(s) through the MO, but that's ~9Gb worth of textures once you uncompress them; I suspect it somehow was a bit too much.

 

P.P.S.: http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Mod_Organizer#tab=Welcome

[gvman3670]

Thanks, I've already seen the step project before but never looked for a long time, now that I read this carefully, I think I'm going to follow their stuff before doing crap again. 

And I've never really believed in TESVEdit's power to really solve major issues with the cleaning. I played on my last laptop more than 200 hours on a single save full of dirty mods and their cleaning didn't really change anything. But I heard there is a master sorting and a merge plugin option in it right ? 

 

I just used the merge plugin option on TES5Edit for the first time. Man, that was simpler than I imagined and it worked. Just load the plugins you want merged, highlight them in the left pane, right click and choose other, then choose to merge them. It was that simple.

 

So now I have my NPC overhaul and Feminine Females merged so all the women quit walking like men.

[Redflyingmonkey]

Decided to continue using nmm on the laptop and learn how to use MO on my computer once I go back home for the college holidays thank you for the help, I'll try to put everything in use !