ASF - Autonomous Sex Framework

[ebbluminous]

Yeah also got Vortex screeching for Apocalypse master

[Plaguetard2.0]

4 hours ago, Anubian said:

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but for some reason the latest version of ASF has 'Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim' listed as a master in MO2? I this an installation error on my part? Or maybe I've missed something by accidentally reading past it?

Edit: Looking it over in Xedit, the master doesn't seem to be used for anything and I don't see it listed in this page's requirements, so I've cleaned the master for now.

Just came to report the same issue. Not sure why Apoc is a Master for the file... anyone try to ignore? Will it still work? Was thinking of trying to bring up xEdit and removing whatever reference it has towards Apoc

[kaxat]

4 hours ago, Anubian said:

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but for some reason the latest version of ASF has 'Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim' listed as a master in MO2? I this an installation error on my part? Or maybe I've missed something by accidentally reading past it?

Edit: Looking it over in Xedit, the master doesn't seem to be used for anything and I don't see it listed in this page's requirements, so I've cleaned the master for now

 

My bad. I accidentally added that master yesterday while prepping for release. As you suspected you can clean the master and fix the issue. I have uploaded v2.0.2 which fixes this.

 

I also removed v2.0.1 since this was the only change. Leaving it up would only cause some to download it by accident.

Edited February 6 by kaxat

[Plaguetard2.0]

5 minutes ago, kaxat said:

 

My bad. I accidentally added that master yesterday while prepping for release. As you suspected you can clean the master and fix the issue. I have uploaded v2.0.2 which fixes this.

 

I also removed v2.0.1 since this was the only change. Leaving it up would only cause some to download it by accident.

Haha, no worries! Happens! I had just cleaned the master and was going to post the esp until it could get fixed, but you beat me to it! Well done!

[Elizinator]

11 hours ago, kaxat said:

@Elizinator @The Lonesome Spirit @RageChaser You should post an ASF log if no sex scenes are starting. 

 so i went on a bit of a journey with this one. I enabled logging, fired up the game, set cooldowns to minimum, enabled random sex, and stood in the tavern in whiterun.

 

[02/06/2026 - 10:02:06AM] [ASF_RandomSex] OnUpdate() Attempting to start a random scene.
[02/06/2026 - 10:02:06AM] [ASF_API] GetActorsMatchingCondition() Finished. Keyword=ASF_PackageValid_Initiator, Evaluator=ASF_Evaluator_Initiator, Radius=4096, Center=0x14, Matched=0/0 in 0.069s (0.046s spent searching)
[02/06/2026 - 10:02:06AM] [ASF_API] StartRandomScene() Could not find a valid Initiator.

 

every 5 seconds. never found a valid initiator. so i check the NPCs. not one of them has the pertinent keyword. So i go into the DISTR and un-comment the line which adds the initiator keyword to all males. Reload the game. sure enough, all male NPCs have the keyword now.

 

[02/06/2026 - 10:14:26AM] [ASF_RandomSex] OnUpdate() Attempting to start a random scene.
[02/06/2026 - 10:14:27AM] [ASF_API] GetActorsMatchingCondition() Finished. Keyword=ASF_PackageValid_Initiator, Evaluator=ASF_Evaluator_Initiator, Radius=4096, Center=0x14, Matched=0/0 in 0.096s (0.066s spent searching)
[02/06/2026 - 10:14:27AM] [ASF_API] StartRandomScene() Could not find a valid Initiator.

 

same error every 5 seconds. so i open up the .esp, and add the included and recipient keywords to the player. I check in-game - i have the keywords. nobody else has the recipient keyword.

 

at last, success! i am approached by an NPC. prompt pops up, i accept, scene begins. Only one weird thing: we sink into the floor halfway. but is this the random sex? I turn off random sex to see if i'll still get approached. i do not. and the log output drops to nearly zero. this shows up every minute or so:

 

[02/06/2026 - 10:39:45AM] [ASF_RefAlias_Player] CheckValidity(0.000000)

sometimes reading 0.25 or 0.5 instead of 0.0

 

but no scenes start. I have reduced both player scene cooldowns to 5 seconds.

 

i go outside. downtown whiterun. i get this:

 

[02/06/2026 - 10:47:31AM] Laborer<0x3506689D>.GetLinkedActivator() Actor already has ASF_ScenePos_LinkedRef assigned. This should not happen during ordinary gameplay.
[02/06/2026 - 10:47:31AM] Eorlund Gray-Mane<0x1A683>.GetLinkedActivator() Actor already has ASF_ScenePos_LinkedRef assigned. This should not happen during ordinary gameplay.
[02/06/2026 - 10:47:34AM] Halldis<0x350EA0F2>.GetLinkedActivator() Actor already has ASF_ScenePos_LinkedRef assigned. This should not happen during ordinary gameplay.
[02/06/2026 - 10:47:37AM] Adrianne Avenicci<0x1A67C>.GetLinkedActivator() Actor already has ASF_ScenePos_LinkedRef assigned. This should not happen during ordinary gameplay.

 

but no scenes start. So ire-enable random. almost immediately, a prompt appears. I accept.

 

Myself and my random partner are teleported to the centre of the earth. or Nirn i guess. way beneath whiterun at any rate. He dies, i fly up into the sky. so I COC to Jorrvaskr. another prompt prompt. no falling through the ground this time.

 

[02/06/2026 - 10:54:29AM] [ASF_RandomSex] OnUpdate() Attempting to start a random scene.
[02/06/2026 - 10:54:29AM] [ASF_API] FilterActorsMatchingConditions() Reserved SexLab Thread[1]
[02/06/2026 - 10:54:30AM] [ASF_API] FilterActorsMatchingConditions() Found 1/1 matching ASF_Evaluator_Initiator in 0.125s + 1.377s for SL. Matches=[0]Brill<0x1A6A3>, 
[02/06/2026 - 10:54:31AM] [ASF_API] GetActorsMatchingCondition() Finished. Keyword=ASF_PackageValid_Initiator, Evaluator=ASF_Evaluator_Initiator, Radius=4096, Center=0x14, Matched=1/3 in 1.627s (0.049s spent searching)
[02/06/2026 - 10:54:31AM] [ASF_API] FilterActorsMatchingConditions() Found 0/1 matching ASF_Evaluator_Recipient_Female in 0.098s + 0.025s for SL. 
[02/06/2026 - 10:54:31AM] [ASF_API] GetActorsMatchingCondition() Finished. Keyword=ASF_FLST_FindRef_PV_Recipient_Female, Evaluator=ASF_Evaluator_Recipient_Female, Radius=2048, Center=BrillREF, Matched=0/1 in 0.249s (0.050s spent searching)
[02/06/2026 - 10:54:31AM] [ASF_API] StartRandomScene() Could not find a valid recipient for Brill<0x1A6A3>.

 

errors like this are firing off every 5 seconds of course.

 

I hope some of this helps.

[kaxat]

14 minutes ago, Elizinator said:

so i went on a bit of a journey with this one. I enabled logging, fired up the game, set cooldowns to minimum, enabled random sex, and stood in the tavern in whiterun.

 

Thank you for sharing your journey.

 

14 minutes ago, Elizinator said:

So i go into the DISTR and un-comment the line which adds the initiator keyword to all males. Reload the game. sure enough, all male NPCs have the keyword now.

 

Excellent. You can customize your own SPID rules like you did or you can download preconfigured ones like SES2. SES2s are a lot more complicated than "all males are initiators" but you might find that simple rule fits your play style. You might also be interested in making all females recipients. Which is another line you can uncomment in that file.

 

15 minutes ago, Elizinator said:

[02/06/2026 - 10:14:26AM] [ASF_RandomSex] OnUpdate() Attempting to start a random scene.
[02/06/2026 - 10:14:27AM] [ASF_API] GetActorsMatchingCondition() Finished. Keyword=ASF_PackageValid_Initiator, Evaluator=ASF_Evaluator_Initiator, Radius=4096, Center=0x14, Matched=0/0 in 0.096s (0.066s spent searching)
[02/06/2026 - 10:14:27AM] [ASF_API] StartRandomScene() Could not find a valid Initiator.

 

same error every 5 seconds. so i open up the .esp, and add the included and recipient keywords to the player. I check in-game - i have the keywords. nobody else has the recipient keyword.

 

The only person your rules have made a recipient is the player. If you wish for others to be recipients than you probably want to revisit that SPID file. Or download someone else preconfigured rules. Keep in mind this mod is a framework. It is not intended to do anything on its own. But with your customizations you are already writing a simple mod for it.

 

15 minutes ago, Elizinator said:

at last, success! i am approached by an NPC. prompt pops up, i accept, scene begins. Only one weird thing: we sink into the floor halfway. but is this the random sex?

 

That is random sex. Random sex is more or less intended as a test feature. It will randomly pair available actors. But for users like you it can be a great way to build a simple mod that leverages this framework. 

 

15 minutes ago, Elizinator said:

I turn off random sex to see if i'll still get approached. i do not. and the log output drops to nearly zero. this shows up every minute or so:

 

[02/06/2026 - 10:39:45AM] [ASF_RefAlias_Player] CheckValidity(0.000000)

sometimes reading 0.25 or 0.5 instead of 0.0

 

That is expected. 

 

16 minutes ago, Elizinator said:

[02/06/2026 - 10:47:31AM] Laborer<0x3506689D>.GetLinkedActivator() Actor already has ASF_ScenePos_LinkedRef assigned. This should not happen during ordinary gameplay.
[02/06/2026 - 10:47:31AM] Eorlund Gray-Mane<0x1A683>.GetLinkedActivator() Actor already has ASF_ScenePos_LinkedRef assigned. This should not happen during ordinary gameplay.
[02/06/2026 - 10:47:34AM] Halldis<0x350EA0F2>.GetLinkedActivator() Actor already has ASF_ScenePos_LinkedRef assigned. This should not happen during ordinary gameplay.
[02/06/2026 - 10:47:37AM] Adrianne Avenicci<0x1A67C>.GetLinkedActivator() Actor already has ASF_ScenePos_LinkedRef assigned. This should not happen during ordinary gameplay.

 

In particular thank you for sharing this. Those messages are intended to help me find edge cases. In theory everything is still working correct when you see those messages. So I would not worry your game is broken. But until I completely understand what sequence of events creates this state, I leave informative messages like that in. In theory this should only be happening if there is a race condition. And if there is a race condition I wish to know about it. But even if there is a race the code is written such that it should behave normally.

 

17 minutes ago, Elizinator said:

Myself and my random partner are teleported to the centre of the earth. or Nirn i guess. way beneath whiterun at any rate. He dies, i fly up into the sky. so I COC to Jorrvaskr

 

Would you mind sharing your full log file? You can upload it here. I wish to know what object the scene was attempting to center on and whether or not it was in the loaded area.

 

I had a similar issue happen once. For some reason the search function PO3.FindAllReferencesWithKeyword(), which returns refs within a certain radius, was returning a ref from a from an entirely different building. I would have to go outside and enter another building in order to load it. When it tried to center on the ref it really centers on the 0,0,0 point for the location, which frequently lacks ground underneath or walls to surround.

 

Honestly no idea why that that function is returning refs from beyond the loaded area. But the entire location I was in was added by an incredibly glitchy mod. So I suspected there might be something strange and broken in the mod. But if this has happened a second time in Whiterun then that theory is probably out.

 

I could probably check returned refs to see Is3dLoaded() is true and only return a ref when that is yes. But I will need to test that. That might not work with xMarkers which have no 3d to load.

 

18 minutes ago, Elizinator said:

[02/06/2026 - 10:54:29AM] [ASF_RandomSex] OnUpdate() Attempting to start a random scene.
[02/06/2026 - 10:54:29AM] [ASF_API] FilterActorsMatchingConditions() Reserved SexLab Thread[1]
[02/06/2026 - 10:54:30AM] [ASF_API] FilterActorsMatchingConditions() Found 1/1 matching ASF_Evaluator_Initiator in 0.125s + 1.377s for SL. Matches=[0]Brill<0x1A6A3>, 
[02/06/2026 - 10:54:31AM] [ASF_API] GetActorsMatchingCondition() Finished. Keyword=ASF_PackageValid_Initiator, Evaluator=ASF_Evaluator_Initiator, Radius=4096, Center=0x14, Matched=1/3 in 1.627s (0.049s spent searching)
[02/06/2026 - 10:54:31AM] [ASF_API] FilterActorsMatchingConditions() Found 0/1 matching ASF_Evaluator_Recipient_Female in 0.098s + 0.025s for SL. 
[02/06/2026 - 10:54:31AM] [ASF_API] GetActorsMatchingCondition() Finished. Keyword=ASF_FLST_FindRef_PV_Recipient_Female, Evaluator=ASF_Evaluator_Recipient_Female, Radius=2048, Center=BrillREF, Matched=0/1 in 0.249s (0.050s spent searching)
[02/06/2026 - 10:54:31AM] [ASF_API] StartRandomScene() Could not find a valid recipient for Brill<0x1A6A3>.

 

errors like this are firing off every 5 seconds of course.

 

Worth noting those are not errors. They are just log messages. Every bit of what you quoted is likely the mod functioning as expected. In order to tell for sure I would need the full log file. It seems like the player is currently viewed by ASF as busy and thus not getting returned by the search for available recipients. But if you keep playing the game she will eventually become valid again and you will get another prompt. 

 

I want to congratulate you one figuring out how to write your own small mod for ASF. It was enlightening to read your journey and see how you puzzled your way from one step to the next. Do keep in mind this if a Framework and not intended to do anything on its own. 

[Elizinator]

I am not understanding.

 

so i've done a bit more playing around. I tried adding all females to the inclusion list. sure enough, they do have the keywords in-game. however, unless i add the keyword to myself via xEdit, no sex at all will occur. not with me, not with NPCs. nothing but the same error - or message - about not being able to find an initiator. in a room with a dozen NPCs, half keyworded as Initiator, half as Recipient, it never ever succeeds.

 

So if i understanding your meaning at the end there, without another mod doing something, the _only_ way to get scenes to start with the out of the box is via the random sex? In which case, I can control it to be player-only via not applying the recipient keyword to anyone but myself? do i have that correct? If so, i can find a better way to add the recipient keyword to myself than editing the Prisoner entry directly. that just cannot be a good idea.

[Elizinator]

2 hours ago, kaxat said:

Would you mind sharing your full log file? You can upload it here. I wish to know what object the scene was attempting to center on and whether or not it was in the loaded area.

 

so in my testing, it indeed happened again immediately. Walking around in whiterun, approach box appears. i hit accept. instantly teleported to . . . somewhere? maybe below whiterun? my partner and i then float up into the sky quite a ways, and hang out there in the void. However, the log doesnt say anything that i havent posted above. perhaps i need to increase the log level? if so, what to?

 

this is what i got at log level 50, and later 90. includes one scene indoors where we sank into the floor, and one scene outdoors where we teleported to the void and flew into the sky

ASF.0.log

 

actually it seems like I teleport to a strange place whenever a scene starts. Into the floor, into the rafters, into the void. any scene started in a given cell always instantly moves me to some specific point, sometimes quite distant.

Edited February 6 by Elizinator
more information

[kaxat]

21 hours ago, Elizinator said:

So if i understanding your meaning at the end there, without another mod doing something, the _only_ way to get scenes to start with the out of the box is via the random sex? In which case, I can control it to be player-only via not applying the recipient keyword to anyone but myself? do i have that correct?

 

Exactly.

 

21 hours ago, Elizinator said:

If so, i can find a better way to add the recipient keyword to myself than editing the Prisoner entry directly. that just cannot be a good idea.

 

It is not the worst thing in the world but there are better ways. The FAQ offers a solid solution using console commands. And hopefully the description page also makes abundantly clear that this mod does nothing on its own. If it does not please let me know.

 

I appreciate the log file. I should have been more clear about the logging level. When trying to get more info turn it up to 100. That gives the most info. Preferably turn it up to 100 then save and load that save. Now play the game for a few minutes. There are a few things missing from your current log file that I am keen to know. What version of SexLab are you using? What ref are scenes centering on? That is all in the log file at level 100.

 

Alternatively if you just want the rest of ASF to work and do not care about the new scene positioning feature you could go into the MCM > Location and disable the "Enable preferred spots". That will likely fix your issue. Another thing that might address these symptoms is to go sit in some furniture in a different city like Markarth and try again there. 

[Elizinator]

1 hour ago, kaxat said:

Alternatively if you just want the rest of ASF to work and do not care about the new scene positioning feature you could go into the MCM > Location and disable the "Enable preferred spots". That will likely fix your issue. Another thing that might address these symptoms is to go sit in some furniture in a different city like Markarth and try again there. 

unfortunately, it doesn't fix it disabling that =/

If a scene starts in dragonsreach, i will be teleported up into the rafters near the door. In the temple of Kynareth, halfway into the floor by the pool. In Jorrvaskr, it actually does put me near some furniture - a chair along one side of the table - but that might be random.

different locations don't fare any better. Candlehearth hall for example sends me spinning out into the void again. Sideways instead of down. 

[reinyn]

Hi there, a few questions for you. Is there an option for solo scenes as well? And if not will it be added? Also, will there be a slider to determine what relationshiprank will be required for npc's to fire an event?

[ash99614]

Does it work on its own or do I need some other mod to automate sex scenes PC<->NPC and NPC<->NPC ?

I have installed all the dependencies too.
 

I deleted all my mods and started from scratch but it doesnt work, I have installed hundreds of mods in Skyrim in the past but I cant get this and the Acheron mod to work. Can anybody help please ?

 

From what I understand this is an alternative to sexlife mod. I am on SSE 1.6.1170.

[value_undefined]

Not sure why but the FOMOD installers of ASF crash my MO2 every time. This only happens specifically with this series of mods. Inspected the xml and they seem quite basic so not sure what is going on other than perhaps a syntax issue of some sort or some edge case issue with Linux and Proton. I use FOMODs all the time and have never seen this before though.

[kaxat]

On 2/7/2026 at 10:02 AM, reinyn said:

Hi there, a few questions for you. Is there an option for solo scenes as well? And if not will it be added? Also, will there be a slider to determine what relationshiprank will be required for npc's to fire an event?

 

Please keep in mind this mod is a framework intended for mod authors. To a mod author I would say: absolutely! The framework can find solo actors. I try to build all features of the to support any number of actors.

 

To a mod user using the example Random Sex feature I would say: no. Random Sex is not intended to cause actors to masturbate. That feature was intended as a quick example test of some of the frameworks features. It was not intended to make ASF a standalone mod. Personally I have little interest in adding to the Random Sex feature. I would rather build new mods that use ASF to do cool things. At present I have no plans to make an ASF masturbation mod. Maybe someone else does.

 

2 hours ago, value_undefined said:

Not sure why but the FOMOD installers of ASF crash my MO2 every time. This only happens specifically with this series of mods. Inspected the xml and they seem quite basic so not sure what is going on other than perhaps a syntax issue of some sort or some edge case issue with Linux and Proton. I use FOMODs all the time and have never seen this before though.

 

That is undoubtedly caused by the MO2 Plugin FOMOD Plus. It is a great plugin but it causes CTDs. You noted that these FOMODs are "quite basic" and you could not be more accurate. They use the simplest version of the FOMOD standard. Sadly simple causes crashes in FOMOD Plus.

 

The first thing I would do is chime in on the FOMOD Plus Nexus page and tell them you are one of many users getting those CTDs. If you feel comfortable naming this mod then please share that it is the one you are attempting to install. Hopefully once they get enough bug reports they will finally fix. Until it is fixed you can disable FOMOD Plus in MO2. Install these mods. Then reenable FOMOD Plus after installation.

 

13 hours ago, ash99614 said:

Does it work on its own or do I need some other mod to automate sex scenes PC<->NPC and NPC<->NPC ?

I have installed all the dependencies too.
 

I deleted all my mods and started from scratch but it doesnt work, I have installed hundreds of mods in Skyrim in the past but I cant get this and the Acheron mod to work. Can anybody help please ?

 

From what I understand this is an alternative to sexlife mod. I am on SSE 1.6.1170.

 

This mod does very little on its own. But other mods can use it to automate sex scenes. 

 

Currently the most popular mod that uses ASF to do sex scenes is SES2. If you do not like the stripping/enslaving feature ASF you can avoid installing all of its dependencies. Specifically the Slave Outfits dependency called SOC. Without that installed you will still find the citizens of your want have sex with people wearing Devious and ZAP Devices, but SES2 won't distribute those devices around. Instead if the player or followers wear them, people will want to have sex with you. Also any mods you might have like Hydra Slave girls that add BDSM actors, those people will also be targets of sexual lust.

 

Alternatively I could walk you through making a very simple SPID file for ASF that causes anyone to have sex with anyone. 

[zztai]

Mod author said the mod does nothing on its own so could someone list the mods that are using this framework? 

[SkyrimOptimized]

I installed all the prerequisites for the Slaverun NPC Enforcer 0.5.0 mod and ended up with a bunch of naked NPCs acting normally without any interaction between them. It doesn't work.

Edited February 12 by LeonardoGarr

[skybird]

For me it works fine unless when my char gets invited for sex. I get all the options but when I accept I always end up in the middle of nowhere (at the end of the map after going to half of skyrim) and get a nasty lock screen and I cant do a thing.

Only way not have to reboot my PC is ctrl+alt+delete go the task manager, select skyrim SE and End task.

 

Update: indoors no issues

Edited February 14 by skybird
update

[kaxat]

@zztai SES2 is the main one. In the SES2 forum thread you will find a couple alternate versions shared by community members.

 

@LeonardoGarr You shared very little information so we can only guess. What settings have you selected in the MCM relating to Random Sex? If that is not the problem then what do your logs look like? Share copies.

 

@skybird You are the second person to report an issue about getting transported to the middle of nowhere. I appreciate the report. The main thing I need is logs. Good logs. If you enable logging in the MCM at level 100 then save and close the game. After that launch the game, go to a different city, and play for a while until a problematic sex scene starts.  Then share a copy of your log here. Preferably set the logging to save to Papyrus.0.log and then share that log file. Tell me what minute and preferably second the problematic sex scene started in. The log files log everything with a timestamp. If I know the second I will know which sex scene was a problem and then I can attempt to find out what was unique about it.

 

I suspect what is happening is that you are getting transported to a piece of furniture your previously sat in. But that furniture is no longer loaded. I am not sure why ASF thinks that furniture is still available. I need logs. Alternatively it might be that an item in the local area got marked as an ideal spot for sex. But then something in your save moved that item outside of the local area. So the sex scene attempts to center on it but it is not actually nearby. In either case you could get transported to coordinates where there are no 3d objects loaded.

[skybird]

8 hours ago, kaxat said:

 

@skybird You are the second person to report an issue about getting transported to the middle of nowhere. I appreciate the report. The main thing I need is logs. Good logs. If you enable logging in the MCM at level 100 then save and close the game. After that launch the game, go to a different city, and play for a while until a problematic sex scene starts.  Then share a copy of your log here. Preferably set the logging to save to Papyrus.0.log and then share that log file. Tell me what minute and preferably second the problematic sex scene started in. The log files log everything with a timestamp. If I know the second I will know which sex scene was a problem and then I can attempt to find out what was unique about it.

 

I suspect what is happening is that you are getting transported to a piece of furniture your previously sat in. But that furniture is no longer loaded. I am not sure why ASF thinks that furniture is still available. I need logs. Alternatively it might be that an item in the local area got marked as an ideal spot for sex. But then something in your save moved that item outside of the local area. So the sex scene attempts to center on it but it is not actually nearby. In either case you could get transported to coordinates where there are no 3d objects loaded.

When I said indoors works is kinda semi correct. It doesnt freeze my game but sex happens in the ceiling or dark aria and once I was surrounded by other npc having sex. Not always however.

I now turned preferred animations spots off and see what will happen but seems not to help a lot atm. I am testing this at thieves guild. Another issue I have, I see a message some sex starts but I cant find the actors. This is also random.

Sometimes it happens where I see the guard for example starting a sex animation and another time he just vanishes.

 

And nope no logs, its a mess as I cant get rid of it and I changed settings so 100% unreliable.

 

[iKnox]

Are actors initiating sex scenes if they have the necessary arousal with the aroused addon installed?

[kaxat]

1 hour ago, skybird said:

When I said indoors works is kinda semi correct. It doesnt freeze my game but sex happens in the ceiling or dark aria and once I was surrounded by other npc having sex. Not always however.

I now turned preferred animations spots off and see what will happen but seems not to help a lot atm. I am testing this at thieves guild. Another issue I have, I see a message some sex starts but I cant find the actors. This is also random.

Sometimes it happens where I see the guard for example starting a sex animation and another time he just vanishes.

 

And nope no logs, its a mess as I cant get rid of it and I changed settings so 100% unreliable.

 

 

I am glad to hear some bits are working and you are experimenting attempting to find a solution. Testing with the Preferred Locations off was smart. That is one of the few things I can think to try. 

 

Unfortunately without logs there is not much I can do. Did V1 of ASF work correctly? It would be a surprise if V1 worked and not V2. The main thing V2 does is add Preferred Locations. Which you turned off. Causing V2 to fallback to the same behavior as V1. 

 

You mentioned in the SES2 thread you are enjoying playing around with the SPID rules. Happy to hear portion of the mod family is working

 

16 minutes ago, iKnox said:

Are actors initiating sex scenes if they have the necessary arousal with the aroused addon installed?

 

If that is a question for Skybird then they confirmed in the SES2 thread that sex scenes starts.

 

If that is a question for me then the answer is yes. With the Arousal addon installed you can control how aroused an actor needs to be to initiate sex.

[skybird]

Right I tried more stuff as while it works to often I dont see the actual action goin on.

Turning off the preferred locations didnt work so going back to default option.

I have now 2 followers with me who are often having fun with random npc. Thing is when it starts they simply disappear. I have a mini map where my followers are green dots and the dots simply are gone once they start sex. When I then go to another zone they simply reappear like nothing happened.

I also noticed NPC-NPC disappearing as I wrote before when I see sex message but once 1 of them I needed for a quest.

And what did I notice. He was in the middle of the world map (i saw the quest marker), a dreaded old bug I thought I didnt have anymore. Once they finished whatever they were doing they return to the town. So if I wait long enough they are back at there original position and they can start it over

 

I am now looking at the SES2_scenepos_distr.ini. I dunno if my followers are the shy kind who avoid public sex and that is the reason they vanish. I also didnt check what class the NPC were who vanished but sometimes the guards disappear aswell and they want sex in public so I dunno if one class overrules another class or not.

So wondering if I should change this line and include all classes as a test. 

; 100% chance Powerful people prefer public sex, unless they are married
Keyword = ASF_ScenePos_Public|SESMaster,SESLocalNobility,SESWarrior,-AcRelHusband,-AcRelWife,-AcRelGirlfriend,-AcRelBoyfriend change this to

Keyword = ASF_ScenePos_Public|SESMaster,SESLocalNobility,SESWarrior,SESLowerClass,SESHoor,SESMerchant,SESMiddleClass,SESHouseStaff,-AcRelHusband,-AcRelWife,-AcRelGirlfriend,-AcRelBoyfriend

 

Dibella I dont touch but all the options afterwards I turn of by putting a ";" in front of the keyword to disable those options.

Then there are also asf ini files but those I havent touched yet. Been wondering to remove those. Its only ini so they should not hurt anything.

 

[iKnox]

20 hours ago, kaxat said:

 

I am glad to hear some bits are working and you are experimenting attempting to find a solution. Testing with the Preferred Locations off was smart. That is one of the few things I can think to try. 

 

Unfortunately without logs there is not much I can do. Did V1 of ASF work correctly? It would be a surprise if V1 worked and not V2. The main thing V2 does is add Preferred Locations. Which you turned off. Causing V2 to fallback to the same behavior as V1. 

 

You mentioned in the SES2 thread you are enjoying playing around with the SPID rules. Happy to hear portion of the mod family is working

 

 

If that is a question for Skybird then they confirmed in the SES2 thread that sex scenes starts.

 

If that is a question for me then the answer is yes. With the Arousal addon installed you can control how aroused an actor needs to be to initiate sex.

Ok, good to know. I don't use SES2, I just wanted to know if npcs inititate sex scenes based on arousal if I have aroused addon installed.

Edited February 16 by iKnox

[skybird]

Well I checked 1 log, the baseobjectswapper.log in skse and I noticed I have many errors there. And the main errors I notice are BaseformID not found. As so much im my game is edited not really a surprise but it makes me wonder if all these manual changes I made are a big issue. 

212 swaps found
[20:20:58:068]                 fail : [zzzCORTableRound01|ASF_BOS_zzzCORTableRound01] (BASE formID not found)
[20:20:58:068]                 fail : [zzzCHSOVtable01|ASF_BOS_zzzCHSOVtable01] (BASE formID not found)
[20:20:58:068]                 fail : [zzzCHHHFurnitureTableRound02|ASF_BOS_zzzCHHHFurnitureTableRound02] (BASE formID not found)
[20:20:58:068]                 fail : [zzzCHHHFurnitureTableRound01|ASF_BOS_zzzCHHHFurnitureTableRound01] (BASE formID not found)
etc etc...

And another error I notice is in spellperkitemdistributor.log

[20:20:33:292] Installed actor load hooks
[20:20:33:294] **********************MERGES**********************
[20:20:33:294] Failed to dispatch message to MergeMapper
[20:20:33:294] INFO - MergeMapper not detected
[20:21:07:049] **********************LOOKUP**********************
[20:21:07:049] Keyword
[20:21:07:050]         [AllDefaultOutfitItemKeywords_DISTR.ini] Filter (BanditArmorAgentBest) SKIP - editorID doesn't exist
[20:21:07:050]         [AllDefaultOutfitItemKeywords_DISTR.ini] Filter (ccBGSSSE059_BjormundOutfit) SKIP - editorID doesn't exist
[20:21:07:050]         [AllDefaultOutfitItemKeywords_DISTR.ini] Filter (MonkOutfitDivinesNoHood_CCF) SKIP - editorID doesn't exist
[20:21:07:050]         [AllDefaultOutfitItemKeywords_DISTR.ini] Filter (MonkOutfitDivineswHood_CCF) SKIP - editorID doesn't exist
[20:21:07:050]         [AllDefaultOutfitItemKeywords_DISTR.ini] Filter (zzzAoMOutfitDoppler) SKIP - editorID doesn't exist
 

etc etc

So I gonna get rid of everything I can and only keep the slave outfits if thats possible.

 

Edited February 16 by skybird
Typo

[kaxat]

@skybird Those missing ID messages you are seeing are soft integrations. If you do not have the related mod installed then the log file will output a message and move on. Those messages are not a worry. 

 

The SES2_scenepos_distr.ini file is basically unused if you disable Preferred animation locations. I think we can ignore that file for now. I know you reenabled those preferred locations. But if I were you I leave it disabled and continue playing without those locations. That turns off part of the mod. Which simplifies debugging. It also turns off 90% of the code changes between v1 and v2. Which brings me back to a question I asked earlier. Did V1 work for you?

 

Like you I am very curious to know where your followers and NPCs are going when having sex. Without logs it is difficult to know. One way might be to run certain console commands. When a SexLab scene starts try typing sqv SexLabThread00 into the console. That will list out variables for this SexLab thread. Note which actors are listed. If those actors are people who just disappeared then look for the variable referencing the CenterRef or CenterAlias. Take a screenshot of your console with the Center in view. Note the ID for the reference, it will be 8 characters long like all other IDs. Then type prid xxxxxxxx but input that RefID instead of the x's. Again please take a screenshot of the console after typing prid... Post both of those here.

 

Typing prid causes the console to pull up extra information on what exactly the scene is centering on. There is a chance it is just one of the actors. Which would be unfortunate because then I really have no ID why they are teleporting away. But there is also a chance that they are centering on some object and that object is off the screen. You could also type player.moveto xxxxxxx and obviously input the RefID there instead of the x's. That will likely cause you to move to the actors and be able to view them having sex. But there is also a good chance you will immediately start falling once you get there because there will be no ground beneath your feet. Or that the actors will have already finished by the time you arrive. 

 

You can play around with these console commands and perhaps learn more about where SexLab is centering these scenes. Without Papyrus logs you are in for a very tough time trying to debug.

 

@iKnox You will need a mod like SES2 installed in order for sex to be possible. What SES2 does is it specifies who will initiate sex when they are horny, and who would be available for sex when someone is horny. Two groups of people. Often times a person will be in both groups.

 

If you do not have any mods installed telling ASF who these people are then no one will initiate sex. No one will be available to receive it. Thus no sex is possible. There are some very simple mods that do this. They are just a single SPID ini file. An example one is even included inside ASF_DISTR.ini but you would need to uncomment a couple of lines.