Crashes on loading areas

[acherontic]

Hi,

 

I've tried searching for the answer here, and I've read more threads than I can count, but so far no luck on the answer.

 

Oblivion crashes when I try to enter certain areas, such as Deepscorn bastion or Crowhaven.

 

I've tried disabling all mods except for the DLC stuff, game loads fine still but trying to enter those areas is an immediate crash. Newer characters have no issue entering the same areas. I have disabled autosaves. The thing these two areas have in common is I've left 2 slaves waiting in each of them. I've posted my load order here, but I doubt that is the issue because these crashes occur even without mods running. What could be missing?

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02  xeorace.esm
03  Lovers with PK.esm
04  LoversCreature.esm
05  BreakUndies.esm
06  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
07  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
08  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.0]
09  DLCHorseArmor.esp
0A  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
0B  DLCOrrery.esp
0C  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
0D  DLCVileLair.esp
0E  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
0F  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
10  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
11  DLCSpellTomes.esp
12  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
13  DLCThievesDen.esp
14  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
15  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
16  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
17  DLCFrostcrag.esp
18  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
19  Knights.esp
1A  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
1B  SetBody.esp
1C  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
1D  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
1E  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
1F  DianoArmor2.esp
20  HGEC Latex Ninja Armor V1.1.esp
21  homura outfit HGEC.esp
22  FSN Equipments.esp
23  Nude Humanlike Spriggan.esp
24  LoversRapeSlave.esp
25  LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp
26  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
27  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
28  LoversTachiCat2.esp
29  LoversRaperS.esp
2A  LoversJoburg.esp
2B  LoversHideMenus.esp
2C  LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
2D  LoversBackup2.esp
2E  LoversPower.esp
2F  LoversContraception.esp
30  LoversFSE.esp
31  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 90]
32  Lovers with PK Extender.esp  [Version 2.4.3]
33  LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp
34  LoversStopCombatEx.esp
35  LoversBed.esp
36  LoversSlaveTrader.esp
37  LoversSTVictims.esp
38  LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp
39  LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
3A  LoversRapeStruggle.esp
3B  LoversCreature.esp
3C  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
3D  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
3E  xeoex.esp

 

 

Earlier saves allow me to enter, but I would prefer not to lose all of my progress on this character. Additionally, this issue will likely come up again, so I'd like to have the ability to just "fix" my most recent saves, and be able to enter the areas.

 

Thanks very much for any help.

[DogOnPorch]

Sounds like a bad save. Like perhaps something you added earlier then deactivated but still had a legacy in your game save. Roll-back is the answer, unfortunately...at least in my experience. Yes...I've been there, too.

 

[EvenstarGW]

Slaves you say? What sort of slaves? Actual existing NPC's that have been enslaved, or clones? If they are of a race that comes from a mod, and the race mod is no longer in its original position, they might have lost their race info (missing heads and all other sorts of bad stuff). Also, if they're clones, getting them out of your save might not be possible. If they're NPC's added by a particular mod, disabling that mod might clear them out and make the place accessible.

[acherontic]

NPC slaves as part of LoversSlaveTrader.esp

 

No race info has been changed since I enslaved them and made them wait there. Both of them are standard NPC's, one is a pair of vampires and the other is a bandit and some town guard girl who's name I can't recall. Also, I tried disabling just about every mod I can think of and still no luck.

 

If rollback is all I can do, oh well not the end of the world!

 

Thanks a ton for the quick replies, I'll keep watching this thread in case new ideas arise.

[gregathit]

Acherontic,

 

While making the below changes may not salvage your latest saved game they will aid you for the future.

 

1. If you are using Win7 and have at least 3GB of RAM grab the 4GB memory patch:

http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php

2. Grab Streamline and Oblivion Stutter Remover. They will help with memory management and memory purging (both available at the Nexus).

3. When you disabled down to the core mods, did you start oblivion then hit escape and make a new save then exit oblivion, then restart oblivion and load your now "clean" save and then try to go into these areas. If you don't use the clean save method stuff gets hung up in your save games even if the mod is disabled.

4. Try reordering your load order to match the below. Once you finish reordering then leave all the lovers mods disabled and load oblivion and make a new save (to clear your save game) and then enable the lovers mods in their new positions.

 

Load Order:

 

 

24 LoversRapeSlave.esp

26 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

27 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp

28 LoversTachiCat2.esp

29 LoversRaperS.esp

35 LoversBed.esp

2A LoversJoburg.esp

2E LoversPower.esp

30 LoversFSE.esp

39 LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp

31 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90]

32 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3]

33 LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp

34 LoversStopCombatEx.esp

2F LoversContraception.esp

2C LoversSpermSplashEx.esp

2B LoversHideMenus.esp

38 LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp

36 LoversSlaveTrader.esp

37 LoversSTVictims.esp

3A LoversRapeStruggle.esp

3B LoversCreature.esp

3C LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

3D LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

3E xeoex.esp

 

 

2D LoversBackup2.esp <----disable and delete - this is built into Lpk v90 and up

25 LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp <----disable you can run this and the SSP version at the same time.

 

 

 

Holler if you still have problems after doing the above.

[geonosis]

I had the same problem with my game

 

turned off all mods even the dlc´s and used a clean safe no change (fast travel to Towns ok but enter the open map CTD). I fixed this by Instaling the Lovers with PK AIO 2.7 (http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2810) via OBMM(overwrite evrything). Game runs perfectly fine for me now.

[acherontic]

Sorry for the late bump, just wanted to say thanks to you two, especially gregathit for the new load order. I made a clean save but the areas with the NPC slaves are still off limits.

 

I read in the SlaveTrader thread that enslaving respawning NPC's such as bandits and vampires and changing the load number of the SlaveTrader mod would cause these crashes, and I suspect that's what happened.

 

Thanks

[gregathit]

Yea, slaving any respawing npc's can be problematic. Oblivion is VERY load order sensitive as you have discovered to your displeasure.