acherontic Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 Hi, I've tried searching for the answer here, and I've read more threads than I can count, but so far no luck on the answer. Oblivion crashes when I try to enter certain areas, such as Deepscorn bastion or Crowhaven. I've tried disabling all mods except for the DLC stuff, game loads fine still but trying to enter those areas is an immediate crash. Newer characters have no issue entering the same areas. I have disabled autosaves. The thing these two areas have in common is I've left 2 slaves waiting in each of them. I've posted my load order here, but I doubt that is the issue because these crashes occur even without mods running. What could be missing? Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 xeorace.esm 03 Lovers with PK.esm 04 LoversCreature.esm 05 BreakUndies.esm 06 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0] 09 DLCHorseArmor.esp 0A DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 0B DLCOrrery.esp 0C DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 0D DLCVileLair.esp 0E DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 0F DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 10 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 11 DLCSpellTomes.esp 12 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 13 DLCThievesDen.esp 14 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 15 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 16 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 17 DLCFrostcrag.esp 18 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 19 Knights.esp 1A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] 1B SetBody.esp 1C Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp 1D Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp 1E Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 1F DianoArmor2.esp 20 HGEC Latex Ninja Armor V1.1.esp 21 homura outfit HGEC.esp 22 FSN Equipments.esp 23 Nude Humanlike Spriggan.esp 24 LoversRapeSlave.esp 25 LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp 26 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 27 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 28 LoversTachiCat2.esp 29 LoversRaperS.esp 2A LoversJoburg.esp 2B LoversHideMenus.esp 2C LoversSpermSplashEx.esp 2D LoversBackup2.esp 2E LoversPower.esp 2F LoversContraception.esp 30 LoversFSE.esp 31 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90] 32 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] 33 LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp 34 LoversStopCombatEx.esp 35 LoversBed.esp 36 LoversSlaveTrader.esp 37 LoversSTVictims.esp 38 LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp 39 LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp 3A LoversRapeStruggle.esp 3B LoversCreature.esp 3C LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 3D LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 3E xeoex.esp Earlier saves allow me to enter, but I would prefer not to lose all of my progress on this character. Additionally, this issue will likely come up again, so I'd like to have the ability to just "fix" my most recent saves, and be able to enter the areas. Thanks very much for any help.
DogOnPorch Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 Sounds like a bad save. Like perhaps something you added earlier then deactivated but still had a legacy in your game save. Roll-back is the answer, unfortunately...at least in my experience. Yes...I've been there, too.
EvenstarGW Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 Slaves you say? What sort of slaves? Actual existing NPC's that have been enslaved, or clones? If they are of a race that comes from a mod, and the race mod is no longer in its original position, they might have lost their race info (missing heads and all other sorts of bad stuff). Also, if they're clones, getting them out of your save might not be possible. If they're NPC's added by a particular mod, disabling that mod might clear them out and make the place accessible.
acherontic Posted December 14, 2011 Author Posted December 14, 2011 NPC slaves as part of LoversSlaveTrader.esp No race info has been changed since I enslaved them and made them wait there. Both of them are standard NPC's, one is a pair of vampires and the other is a bandit and some town guard girl who's name I can't recall. Also, I tried disabling just about every mod I can think of and still no luck. If rollback is all I can do, oh well not the end of the world! Thanks a ton for the quick replies, I'll keep watching this thread in case new ideas arise.
gregathit Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 Acherontic, While making the below changes may not salvage your latest saved game they will aid you for the future. 1. If you are using Win7 and have at least 3GB of RAM grab the 4GB memory patch: http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php 2. Grab Streamline and Oblivion Stutter Remover. They will help with memory management and memory purging (both available at the Nexus). 3. When you disabled down to the core mods, did you start oblivion then hit escape and make a new save then exit oblivion, then restart oblivion and load your now "clean" save and then try to go into these areas. If you don't use the clean save method stuff gets hung up in your save games even if the mod is disabled. 4. Try reordering your load order to match the below. Once you finish reordering then leave all the lovers mods disabled and load oblivion and make a new save (to clear your save game) and then enable the lovers mods in their new positions. Load Order: 24 LoversRapeSlave.esp 26 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 27 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 28 LoversTachiCat2.esp 29 LoversRaperS.esp 35 LoversBed.esp 2A LoversJoburg.esp 2E LoversPower.esp 30 LoversFSE.esp 39 LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp 31 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90] 32 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] 33 LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp 34 LoversStopCombatEx.esp 2F LoversContraception.esp 2C LoversSpermSplashEx.esp 2B LoversHideMenus.esp 38 LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp 36 LoversSlaveTrader.esp 37 LoversSTVictims.esp 3A LoversRapeStruggle.esp 3B LoversCreature.esp 3C LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 3D LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 3E xeoex.esp 2D LoversBackup2.esp <----disable and delete - this is built into Lpk v90 and up 25 LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp <----disable you can run this and the SSP version at the same time. Holler if you still have problems after doing the above.
geonosis Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I had the same problem with my game turned off all mods even the dlc´s and used a clean safe no change (fast travel to Towns ok but enter the open map CTD). I fixed this by Instaling the Lovers with PK AIO 2.7 (http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2810) via OBMM(overwrite evrything). Game runs perfectly fine for me now.
acherontic Posted January 11, 2012 Author Posted January 11, 2012 Sorry for the late bump, just wanted to say thanks to you two, especially gregathit for the new load order. I made a clean save but the areas with the NPC slaves are still off limits. I read in the SlaveTrader thread that enslaving respawning NPC's such as bandits and vampires and changing the load number of the SlaveTrader mod would cause these crashes, and I suspect that's what happened. Thanks
gregathit Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Yea, slaving any respawing npc's can be problematic. Oblivion is VERY load order sensitive as you have discovered to your displeasure.
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