LoversSurrender v1.3

[Mirrorimage]

It's been weeks since I've last poked around Lovers with the construction set... I remember from poking around LoversTrueCrime that you can flag sex as rape by adding the following two lines:

 

set xLoversQuest.OffNudeFlag to 128

set xLoversQuest.DefNudeFlag to 128

 

I'm not sure this will work with your script, though... But perhaps it is a good place to start looking.

[brimstone-x]

It's been weeks since I've last poked around Lovers with the construction set... I remember from poking around LoversTrueCrime that you can flag sex as rape by adding the following two lines:

 

set xLoversQuest.OffNudeFlag to 128

set xLoversQuest.DefNudeFlag to 128

 

I'm not sure this will work with your script' date=' though... But perhaps it is a good place to start looking.

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Thank you, that worked fine. Now all I gotta do is make things much more "dynamic" than they already are, and I'll release my next version, which will be my last version for a while, I'm thinking I might drop the Joburg compatability idea to focus on creatures, which may take a while to work out.

[Warped Realities]

For some reason when i convince a Bandit to accept the thrust of justice there's a several second delay before the sex kicks in and when it does the screen flickers black multiple times for the first few seconds of thrust. I can only assume this isn't intentional. I dont get this from any other lovers initiations for other mods.

[MrPanda]

I had the same issue with version 1.1.

Version 1.2 corrected the problem.

 

[brimstone-x]

Updated to version 1.3. Sorry for the delay, life has been getting me good lately. The Truce spell is one again ranged, and actually works a lot better this time, and in general, there is more dialogue and NPCs can backstab you now. By simply refusing your Truce, or raping them killing you, and etc.

 

Also, I added more gender based dialogue. MF, FM, MM, FF, etc etc.

 

Future plans are to allow NPC's to make YOU surrender if your heath is low, or at least request it. I'll probably just make it so if your heath is below 10%, it initiates the Truce script or something along those lines.

[Hitman69]

Future plans are to allow NPC's to make YOU surrender if your heath is low' date=' or at least request it. I'll probably just make it so if your heath is below 10%, it initiates the Truce script or something along those lines.

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If you could get that to be a setting in an .ini, that would be even better, I personally like to change those things, and 10% is kinda my requirement for rape in landE. Do note however, that if you want to implement it correctly, the script shouldn't fire every moment you're under x% of your health.

[brimstone-x]

Future plans are to allow NPC's to make YOU surrender if your heath is low' date=' or at least request it. I'll probably just make it so if your heath is below 10%, it initiates the Truce script or something along those lines.

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If you could get that to be a setting in an .ini, that would be even better, I personally like to change those things, and 10% is kinda my requirement for rape in landE. Do note however, that if you want to implement it correctly, the script shouldn't fire every moment you're under x% of your health.

I'm going to have a universal variable or two over the whole script, such as SurrenderTried or something along those lines. I also plan to throw a random loop in there somewhere to do some random chance calculations and whatnot.

 

I'm not sure what to make the health percentage. I might just take the script for when you surrender them, and flip it to the player. That way it will take into account when they can kill you and there attributes and whatnot.

[Thanos]

2 Questions:

a) Is is intended that the "normal" option of accepting surrender isn't there anymore?

I only get "you belong to me" option, then a blank line and then the "getupandfight" line. (I don't mind it, just being curious).

I tried to tweak this a little more to my linking (mostly I want the surrendering opponents to sound less happy about what's going to happen).

But I seem to fail miserably when it comes to the scripting: How can I make the sex count as rape and not normal sex?

 

[brimstone-x]

@Thanos, I'll answer question first.

 

The item called aaaSexStarter has rape settings, the aaaSexstarterDOM is non rape. In my dialogues, if you see item.add aaaSexstarterDOM, change that to just aaaSexStarter. If thats what you mean?

 

If you wanted to change the dialogue or something like that to something meaner, put the aaaSexStarter item, that initiates the rape sex, rather than the regular sex.

 

Its all on the offensive defensive flags for the two items:

set xLoversQuest.OffNudeFlag to 128

set xLoversQuest.DefNudeFlag to 128

 

The 128's mean its rape. Otherwise I think its:

set xLoversQuest.OffNudeFlag to foff

set xLoversQuest.DefNudeFlag to fdef

 

As for question A. I made the system more dynamic, sometimes the CPU will turn there back on you randomly. Like, if you get them to disposition 100, they'll thank you for the chat and gold, then attack you anyways.

 

So the normal options aren't the default anymore. I wanted to stir things up so bribing them with sex doesn't always work.

[Thanos]

Ok, maybe I'm stupid but changing aaaSexStarterDOM to aaaSexStarter caused the NPC who just surrendered to me to rape my character after I choose "You belong to me Now strip...". That's definitely not what I intended. *g*

The part about set xLoversQuest.OffNudeFlag to 128 is exactly what I needed.

I'm still hesitating on modifying this a lot, because I'm not sure if/how much updates there will be on this (then I'd have to do that all again).

BTW Is there a reason the surrendering opponents do not use the rape settings?

[brimstone-x]

Ok' date=' maybe I'm stupid but changing aaaSexStarterDOM to aaaSexStarter caused the NPC who just surrendered to me to rape my character after I choose \"You belong to me Now strip...\". That's definitely not what I intended. *g*

The part about set xLoversQuest.OffNudeFlag to 128 is exactly what I needed.

I'm still hesitating on modifying this a lot, because I'm not sure if/how much updates there will be on this (then I'd have to do that all again).

BTW Is there a reason the surrendering opponents do not use the rape settings?

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I figured since there surrendering, the main character should be dominant the majority of the time. So I let the player control the sex.

[Thanos]

I figured since there surrendering' date=' the main character should be dominant the majority of the time. So I let the player control the sex.

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You mean as in being able to advance the stages by pressing the grab key?

I'm totally with you on the dominant part, or better I actually want them to be submissive. That's why it bugged me so much, that the sex didn't count as them being raped, so they could turn if into rapeslaves after surrendering.

And their current dialogue line after surrendering is (imho) way to lighthearted.

Example:

Player Female just beats up some bandit mage to pulp, then she goes: "I surrender, don't hit me please".

Player Line: "You're mine now, strip and spread 'em bitch!"

And suddenly her line is "Yay! Never had sex with a woman! Can't wait for it!"

 

BTW I'm exaggerating a bit to get my point across, not to offend you. I just love this mod so much, I want it to be perfect.

 

 

 

 

[luffyboy]

hey does this have a specific load order?

[brimstone-x]

hey does this have a specific load order?

No. Its mostly script and two spells' date=' so I don't think it would really matter where it is inserted.

 

I figured since there surrendering, the main character should be dominant the majority of the time. So I let the player control the sex.

You mean as in being able to advance the stages by pressing the grab key?

I'm totally with you on the dominant part, or better I actually want them to be submissive. That's why it bugged me so much, that the sex didn't count as them being raped, so they could turn if into rapeslaves after surrendering.

And their current dialogue line after surrendering is (imho) way to lighthearted.

Example:

Player Female just beats up some bandit mage to pulp, then she goes: "I surrender, don't hit me please".

Player Line: "You're mine now, strip and spread 'em bitch!"

And suddenly her line is "Yay! Never had sex with a woman! Can't wait for it!"

 

BTW I'm exaggerating a bit to get my point across, not to offend you. I just love this mod so much, I want it to be perfect.

Yeah, that is something I'd like to add in the future. Originally I wanted it to activate Joburg for them. That way it would count as rape, AND people around them might join in.

 

Another problem I have with Lovers is that after sex, people continue to attack you. It makes sense for Monsters, but not the players. I mean, if a bandit rapes you in front of other bandits, he, and the rest of them should see you as a joke by that point.

 

It would be a game breaking mechanic in one sense(As you wouldn't have to fight them), but would be pretty realistic. I was thinking if they rape you, they treat you like crap afterwards. Rather than have normal dialogue, they'll demand you strip, or take your money or something. This was something I'd like to implement, but it seems out of my league in terms of scripting right now.

 

That and the Joburg thing really.

[Thanos]

Have you had a look at loversTrueCrime? I think that one is pretty well excecuted script wise and could help you achive what you want.

A possibility might be adding the rapist to a new faction that has a lower aggression and higher dispotion towards the player. Also that faction could have specific greeting lines involving threats, verbal abuse and maybe even the occasional forced rape.

You'd probably have to be carefull not to destroy any quests by this. (Maybe just add this to NPC's which respawn... or remove the faction after a number of game days.)

 

The Joburg thing only works if NPC's rape the PC (or other NPC's) right? So it could only ever work for the truce option anyway.

I have to admint my main interest in this mod is more the surrendering opponents, though. Say, is there a way they could sometimes offer to surrender on their own? [Like when the fleeing and shouting for help starts]

This is just something I always wanted to see.

[brimstone-x]

Alright guys, unfortunatly, for the forseeable future, I won't be able to work on this anymore. My laptop broke yesterday, which had all my oblivion stuff on there. (Just when I was making slight progress on making the spells creature compatible  :-\).

 

I probably won't be on the forums for a while either. I'm messaging through my parents slow as hell, punchworthy computer. I have no patient to deal with this thing. Anyway, yeah, I won't be around as frequently, but if anyone wants to pick this up or anything, they are welcome to.

[Slammer64]

Out of curiosity brimstone-x, does this work with you having companions?

[rylasasin]

I could volunteer to take over this for you untill you get back.

 

 

I had some suggestions too for LoverSurrender 2.0:

 

- 1st and foremost, instead of basing it off of Diplomacy and mercy, base it off of Vows and Covenants. Not only does it have more features to exploit (Aedric vows and Daedric pacts... Hey! Maybe a Dibella/Sanguine/Molag Bal pact could be made with lovers!), it's also an updated version of D&M.

 

-2nd: When forcing a surrendered foe to fuck you, have the abilty to choose who's giving and who's doing the receiving.

 

-3rd: When asking them to strip, have them give you all your clothes. (Eliminates any further need to kill them.)