Just praying about DLC...

[Miauzi]

Vor 2 Stunden sagte Wandering_Mania:

Nun, wenn Sie Tatsachen mit meiner „Meinung“ gleichsetzen; Das Ergebnis ist, dass Sie nichts anderes tun, als BGS „Blinde Verteidigung des Weißen Ritters“ durchzuführen.

Auch wenn es darauf ankommt, seid ihr eine Minderheit.

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Sicherlich ist das Video mehr als eine Stunde lang. Aber wenn Sie sich tatsächlich hinsetzen und das Ganze beobachten. Vielleicht lernst du etwas. Öffne deinen Geist. Lassen Sie Ihre Echokammer los.

 

Ich gebe zu, dass ich zu viel Freizeit habe. Aber ich weiß auch verdammt gut, wovon ich rede.

Und zu deinem anderen Kommentar:

Wie gesagt, ich langweile mich wahnsinnig. Und nein, ich habe wirklich nichts anderes zum Spielen. Ich habe irgendwie alle anderen Spiele, die ich habe, durchgespielt, weil ich sie zu oft gespielt habe. Natürlich könnte ich etwas Geld für ein „Mist-Shooting“ ausgeben und mir ein neues Spiel zulegen; Aber zumindest versuche ich, in Starfailed „den Spaß zu finden“. Ich habe jetzt mehr als 400 Stunden in Starfailed, also wenn ich nach all der Zeit nicht weiß, wovon ich spreche ... Sagen Sie mir, wie viele Menschen dieser Strafe standgehalten haben.

 

Very interesting video - I can agree with the author on most things... especially his final conclusion with the inclusion of the mod scene clearly shows that "Bugdesta" is on the completely wrong path.

[DocClox]

3 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said:

You are a minority when it comes down too it.

 

So your criteria for deciding "what is truth?" is based on the number of people who agree any particular proposition? Because I'm fairly certain that's well known as a logical fallacy.

 

The Truth is not decided by a popularity contest. It doesn't matter how many videos you post, none of them will make your opinion into a fact.

 

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Come on, @Miauzi! You're all about scientific process and intellectual integrity and rigor! Surely you have something to say on this topic?

Edited September 20, 2024 by DocClox

[Wandering_Mania]

14 minutes ago, DocClox said:

So your criteria for deciding "what is truth?" is based on the number of people who agree any particular proposition?

So now the definition of a 'minority' is not considered the lesser number of people?

The 'popular opinion' is EXACTLY what makes something a success or a failure.

 

You don't like my opinions, fine. Block me and fuckin' be done with.

DON'T argue with me.

DON'T reply to me.

Just block me.

 

But if you do argue with me, you can damn well be certain that I will NOT remain respectful. Not when everything I say is being twisted, and disregarded as pure hogwash. Because that's not respectful either.

 

And now both you and nIn nIn nIn can count yourselves as blocked by me.

Good day!

[Miauzi]

19 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Nun wird die Definition einer „Minderheit“ also nicht als die kleinere Anzahl von Menschen betrachtet?

Die „populäre Meinung“ ist GENAU das, was etwas zum Erfolg oder Misserfolg macht.

 

Du magst meine Meinung nicht, okay. Blockiere mich und Schluss mit der Sache.

Streite nicht mit mir.

Antworte mir NICHT.

Blockiere mich einfach.

 

Aber wenn Sie mit mir streiten, können Sie verdammt sicher sein, dass ich NICHT respektvoll bleiben werde. Nicht, wenn alles, was ich sage, verdreht und als reiner Quatsch abgetan wird. Denn auch das ist nicht respektvoll.

 

Und jetzt können Sie und nIn nIn nIn sich als von mir blockiert betrachten.

Guten Tag!

 

Unfortunately, it is now the usual method of these people to bite away at everything that could alarm them in their pink and red comfort bubble called "StarField".

 

Because all the disgusting "tools" such as defamation, blatant lies, provocation, etc. are unpacked - the main thing is that the "disturber" gets out of the way... so that you are left alone and can constantly confirm to each other how great you are and how great the game is.

[DocClox]

1 hour ago, Wandering_Mania said:

So now the definition of a 'minority' is not considered the lesser number of people?

 

Incorrect. My definition of "truth" is not considered the  greater number of people. I actually thought I was pretty clear about that.

 

1 hour ago, Wandering_Mania said:

You don't like my opinions, fine

 

I don't have a problem with your opinions. I''m a little perplexed by your apparent inability to distinguish between "opinion" and "fact".

 

1 hour ago, Wandering_Mania said:

And now both you and nIn nIn nIn can count yourselves as blocked by me.

 

Your choice. All I set out to do was agree with you on a couple of points. That and I've affirmed twice that you have a perfect right to your opinions, and that it's OK in my book if they're not the same as my own. What do I have to do to have a civil conversation around here?

 

Ah, never mind. You wanna block me, you block me. Knock yourself out.

[Wandering_Mania]

2 hours ago, Miauzi said:

 

Unfortunately, it is now the usual method of these people to bite away at everything that could alarm them in their pink and red comfort bubble called "StarField".

 

Because all the disgusting "tools" such as defamation, blatant lies, provocation, etc. are unpacked - the main thing is that the "disturber" gets out of the way... so that you are left alone and can constantly confirm to each other how great you are and how great the game is.

Exactly. They misrepresent your good intentions until, your pissed off enough that you mute them. Then they sit around and sniff their own farts. And when confronted by any kind of differing opinion, or fact; Your the one in the wrong because they have sniffed that foul odor for so long, they are unable to wake up and smell the roses. Figuratively speaking of course.

[DocClox]

1 hour ago, Wandering_Mania said:

And when confronted by any kind of differing opinion, or fact

 

You mean like when I said:

 

On 9/18/2024 at 3:56 PM, DocClox said:

I get that you don't [like it] and that's fair enough

 

Or:

 

On 9/19/2024 at 4:13 AM, DocClox said:

Nevertheless, you're entitled to your opinion. Obviously.

 

Oh deary deary me! What sort of intolerant, brow-beating monster am I? The least little hint that someone might not agree with me on all counts and what do I do?  I go out of my way to affirm their right to hold that opinion! How very dare I?

 

Next thing you know I'll be doing something really terrible, like Looking For Middle Ground, or Trying To See Both Sides. Please, somebody stop me!

Edited September 20, 2024 by DocClox

[TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft]

The people on Reddit lose their shit even if you constructively use all the positive language you learned in your university communication classes. So when I say that there are things that Bethesda should fix, they're related to the storytelling, dialogue trees, and in-game consistency. Literally the easiest things to fix in the game, because they're not technical.

 

Take this as another concrete example I encountered just now. 

 

 

 

Remember the Walter Stroud quest where you're supposed to get the artifact from Musgrove? If you spare his life he's supposed to leave Neon on pain of death. So he's off Neon right? I completed the Ryujin, Ranger, and Vanguard quests. I'm in the middle of the Crimson Fleet quest and I'm going into the Astral Lounge to recruit some more crew members. Guess who I see in the Astral Lounge? No dialogue of any kind. Isn't this guy supposed to be killed on sight if he didn't get out of Neon?

 

Again, this is game design slop that they should have cleaned up even before pre-launch. But oh, no. That's Bethesda. We can't expect coherent in-game consistency.

 


 

 

Edited September 21, 2024 by TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft

[Djlegends]

3 hours ago, TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft said:

The people on Reddit lose their shit even if you constructively use all the positive language you learned in your university communication classes. So when I say that there are things that Bethesda should fix, they're related to the storytelling, dialogue trees, and in-game consistency. Literally the easiest things to fix in the game, because they're not technical.

 

Take this as another concrete example I encountered just now. 

 

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Remember the Walter Stroud quest where you're supposed to get the artifact from Musgrove? If you spare his life he's supposed to leave Neon on pain of death. So he's off Neon right? I completed the Ryujin, Ranger, and Vanguard quests. I'm in the middle of the Crimson Fleet quest and I'm going into the Astral Lounge to recruit some more crew members. Guess who I see in the Astral Lounge? No dialogue of any kind. Isn't this guy supposed to be killed on sight if he didn't get out of Neon?

 

Again, this is game design slop that they should have cleaned up even before pre-launch. But oh, no. That's Bethesda. We can't expect coherent in-game consistency.

 


 

 

you got the community patch we usually fixes stuff like this and more

[brown66]

6 hours ago, TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft said:

The people on Reddit lose their shit even if you constructively use all the positive language you learned in your university communication classes. So when I say that there are things that Bethesda should fix, they're related to the storytelling, dialogue trees, and in-game consistency. Literally the easiest things to fix in the game, because they're not technical.

 

Take this as another concrete example I encountered just now. 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Remember the Walter Stroud quest where you're supposed to get the artifact from Musgrove? If you spare his life he's supposed to leave Neon on pain of death. So he's off Neon right? I completed the Ryujin, Ranger, and Vanguard quests. I'm in the middle of the Crimson Fleet quest and I'm going into the Astral Lounge to recruit some more crew members. Guess who I see in the Astral Lounge? No dialogue of any kind. Isn't this guy supposed to be killed on sight if he didn't get out of Neon?

 

Again, this is game design slop that they should have cleaned up even before pre-launch. But oh, no. That's Bethesda. We can't expect coherent in-game consistency.

 


 

 

 

Yes, there are several examples like these. In the movie and TV series industry, I think this is called continuity. They took this very seriously in Skyrim, but not in Starfield.

However, we cannot forget that Starfield is still at the beginning of its life and that patches have been made and implemented, something that no longer exists in Skyrim, a game that supposedly Bethesda considers to be already fixed.

 

We will judge Starfield after the pacths are gone. For now it's still a bit early in this aspect of continuity.

Edited September 21, 2024 by brown66

[TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft]

10 hours ago, Djlegends said:

you got the community patch we usually fixes stuff like this and more

 

I've been using the community patch since the first day it was available. For all the bugs it fixes, stuff like this isn't touched. Same with the other "eternal NPCs" who stay in place forever, long after their role in a quest was done. 

[Djlegends]

2 hours ago, TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft said:

 

I've been using the community patch since the first day it was available. For all the bugs it fixes, stuff like this isn't touched. Same with the other "eternal NPCs" who stay in place forever, long after their role in a quest was done. 

well then make an issue page for this should be  in their limits to fix

[TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft]

I've submitted things to the Community Patch issues page, but they all go into the ignore pile.