Miauzi Posted July 14, 2024 Posted July 14, 2024 Vor 2 Minuten sagte Mister_Discrete: Ich mag Rätsel, sie halten meinen Geist beschäftigt. Es stellte sich jedoch heraus, dass es sich um ein Rätsel handelte, das mich ein wenig verrückt machte. Ich glaube, ich brauchte einfach ein paar andere Köpfe, mit denen ich mich austauschen konnte, weshalb ich diesen Thread gestartet habe. When I landed here in the forum 3 years ago looking for mods that had disappeared (from Nexus) - I couldn't imagine at first how exchanging information would help me to use mods. Of course, the many mods with SM or fetishes (like latex) were the main attraction at first - but at some point, due to the complexity of the frameworks (to be used), I got to the point where I wanted to find out more about fixing errors and exchange ideas. So today I dare to try mod combinations - which 4 years ago would have simply made me despair... because on Nexus, a more in-depth exchange of experiences across the boundaries of individual mods is very difficult. For some mods that are hosted here - I have read hundreds of pages of troubleshooting... I haven't always found a solution - but I have often received inspiration on how to combine mods with one another for your own "roll play"... and that you can use a computer game as a "stage" to tell and visualize your own story. 1
Mister_Discrete Posted July 14, 2024 Author Posted July 14, 2024 Well ladies and gentlemen...and all in between....or none of the above. I'm pretty sure I sussed it out. It was the monster facial animation mod. I don't know why it did what it did. And reading through the mod page's posts and bugs section, it would seem it only has done this to me. I'd considered re-downloading the mod, because maybe something got corrupted somewhere, But at this point, I can live without it. I've devoted enough of my time to a mod that effects only a small game detail, that I don't even engage with too much. The funniest part of all of this is that I don't even care to play as a werewolf! What I did care about was all the other werewolves running around invisibly. They're difficult to fight when you're not really sure where they are. And the companions/Sinding quests are rough with this glitch in play. Thank you to those who shared their thoughts in an effort to help out. You're the best.
Mister_Discrete Posted July 14, 2024 Author Posted July 14, 2024 16 minutes ago, Miauzi said: When I landed here in the forum 3 years ago looking for mods that had disappeared (from Nexus) - I couldn't imagine at first how exchanging information would help me to use mods. Of course, the many mods with SM or fetishes (like latex) were the main attraction at first - but at some point, due to the complexity of the frameworks (to be used), I got to the point where I wanted to find out more about fixing errors and exchange ideas. So today I dare to try mod combinations - which 4 years ago would have simply made me despair... because on Nexus, a more in-depth exchange of experiences across the boundaries of individual mods is very difficult. For some mods that are hosted here - I have read hundreds of pages of troubleshooting... I haven't always found a solution - but I have often received inspiration on how to combine mods with one another for your own "roll play"... and that you can use a computer game as a "stage" to tell and visualize your own story. I agree, absolutely. Especially here, versus the Nexus, or Redditt, or other such places. Here, people are able to look passed the fact I have adult mods because this is where most of them come from. If I posted my mod list on a Nexus forum asking for help, I'd just get a ton of unhelpful advice suggesting that the adult mods are the sole problem. Clearly, in this instance, that wasn't true. 1
Miauzi Posted July 14, 2024 Posted July 14, 2024 Vor 6 Minuten sagte Mister_Discrete: Nun, meine Damen und Herren ... und alles dazwischen ... oder nichts davon. Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass ich es herausgefunden habe. Es war der Monster-Gesichtsanimations-Mod. Ich weiß nicht, warum es getan hat, was es getan hat. Und wenn ich mir den Abschnitt „Beiträge und Bugs“ auf der Mod-Seite ansehe, scheint es, als ob das nur bei mir der Fall gewesen wäre. Ich hatte darüber nachgedacht, den Mod erneut herunterzuladen, weil vielleicht irgendwo etwas beschädigt wurde, aber im Moment kann ich ohne ihn leben. Ich habe genug Zeit einer Mod gewidmet, die sich nur auf ein kleines Spieldetail auswirkt, sodass ich mich nicht einmal allzu sehr damit beschäftige. Das Witzigste an der ganzen Sache ist, dass es mir nicht einmal Spaß macht, als Werwolf zu spielen! Was mich interessierte, waren all die anderen Werwölfe, die unsichtbar herumliefen. Sie sind schwer zu bekämpfen, wenn man nicht genau weiß, wo sie sind. Und die Gefährten-/Sinding-Quests sind aufgrund dieses Spielfehlers schwierig. Vielen Dank an diejenigen, die ihre Gedanken geteilt haben, um zu helfen. Du bist der beste. Well then, I congratulate you on successfully fixing your problem. 😎 But why do you install so many mods that deal with werewolves - if you don't even want to play something like that yourself? With the "Warrior's Guild" in Whiterun, you can't really avoid it... unless you use mods. Although in terms of pure combat play, invisible enemies in Skyrim are not a problem: In the quest for the Thieves' Guild - where you fight the renegade guild leader in the room with the snow elf statue - he uses an invisibility spell and attacks the player accordingly violently. With a little knowledge of dragon shouts and magic skills, you can quickly come up with countermeasures -> "Discover life" For me, the most effective here is the dragon shout - because it doesn't waste time with a hand animation and you can also say it with your weapons drawn (there is also an equivalent for undead like vampires - who also like to use the invisibility spell) So an invisible werewolf (due to a mod error) wouldn't be a problem either - in the sense of "the game is now unplayable" Please understand this as a supplementary comment 1
Mister_Discrete Posted July 14, 2024 Author Posted July 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, Miauzi said: Well then, I congratulate you on successfully fixing your problem. 😎 But why do you install so many mods that deal with werewolves - if you don't even want to play something like that yourself? With the "Warrior's Guild" in Whiterun, you can't really avoid it... unless you use mods. Although in terms of pure combat play, invisible enemies in Skyrim are not a problem: In the quest for the Thieves' Guild - where you fight the renegade guild leader in the room with the snow elf statue - he uses an invisibility spell and attacks the player accordingly violently. With a little knowledge of dragon shouts and magic skills, you can quickly come up with countermeasures -> "Discover life" For me, the most effective here is the dragon shout - because it doesn't waste time with a hand animation and you can also say it with your weapons drawn (there is also an equivalent for undead like vampires - who also like to use the invisibility spell) So an invisible werewolf (due to a mod error) wouldn't be a problem either - in the sense of "the game is now unplayable" Please understand this as a supplementary comment I'm planning on a Subjugation of Skyrim play-through.. It's also going to be somewhat de-leveled. Which means werewolf enemies can appear early in game, before my character would have the abilities to detect invisible creatures that you mentioned. Part of the Subjugation plan involves going through The Companions questline, as well as completing the Falkreath werewolf quest. And while the game wasn't by any means "unplayable" with this glitch, it was incredibly distracting to see the problem, and have no idea why it existed in the first place. Also, problems like this can be indicative of other problems yet to be encountered that could potentially be game-breaking. So it's best to track them down and resolve them as soon as you find them. Rather than just ignoring them and continuing the story, only to find that a larger, unignorable issue comes up and ruins everything. I've been working on my mod list since the beginning of May, in preparation for this play-through. Loading things, testing, playing until I find a problem I didn't anticipate, then working to resolve that problem. As Abraham Lincoln once said... “ Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the ax. ” I'm still sharpening my axe, so to speak. 1
Miauzi Posted July 14, 2024 Posted July 14, 2024 Vor 12 Minuten sagte Mister_Discrete: Ich plane, „Subjugation of Skyrim“ durchzuspielen. Es wird auch etwas abgeschwächt sein. Das bedeutet, dass Werwolf-Feinde früh im Spiel auftauchen können, bevor mein Charakter die Fähigkeit besitzt, die von Ihnen erwähnten unsichtbaren Kreaturen zu erkennen. Ein Teil des Unterwerfungsplans besteht darin, die Questreihe „Die Gefährten“ durchzugehen und die Werwolf-Quest „Falkenring“ abzuschließen. Und obwohl das Spiel mit diesem Fehler keineswegs „unspielbar“ war, war es unglaublich ablenkend, das Problem zu sehen und keine Ahnung zu haben, warum es überhaupt existierte. Außerdem können solche Probleme ein Hinweis auf andere Probleme sein, die noch auftreten und möglicherweise bahnbrechend sein könnten. Daher ist es am besten, sie aufzuspüren und zu beheben, sobald Sie sie finden. Anstatt sie einfach zu ignorieren und die Geschichte fortzusetzen, nur um dann festzustellen, dass ein größeres, nicht zu ignorierendes Problem auftaucht und alles ruiniert. Ich arbeite seit Anfang Mai an meiner Mod-Liste, um mich auf dieses Durchspielen vorzubereiten. Dinge laden, testen, spielen, bis ich ein Problem finde, mit dem ich nicht gerechnet habe, und dann daran arbeiten, dieses Problem zu lösen. Wie Abraham Lincoln einmal sagte... „ Geben Sie mir sechs Stunden, um einen Baum zu fällen, und die ersten vier werde ich damit verbringen, die Axt zu schärfen . “ ” Ich bin sozusagen immer noch dabei, meine Axt zu schärfen. I'm currently doing something similar -> for my blog story I want to use the mod collection "Serana dead sexy" - but combined with mods that turn my (female) character into a "chick" ... basically I added a few more things to the idea of an overpowering (blood-sucking) partner. The tests have been going on for several weeks - a first basis works (the interaction of several mods that change the body) ... but another aspect (from a companion mod) forces me to complete the main quests of the base game and both main DLCs ... just for testing purposes - whether the final ending (not me but my companion kills Miraak - out of revenge!) actually happens like that. I don't need it for pure playing - but this special companion has an important function in my story... and no - it's NOT Serana!) Overall, my story has been on pause for about a year... I was dissatisfied with the state of the mods at the time (which I wanted to use for my second main part). Yes - the preparations take a lot of time - testing alone takes at least 5-10 times as much time as writing and staging the scenes - if I just "played" it, I would be finished in a tiny fraction of the time 1
MadMansGun Posted July 14, 2024 Posted July 14, 2024 2 hours ago, Mister_Discrete said: I think I've found the culprit that mod splits up the werewolf mesh into parts so it can add tri data to the head & eyes...therefore not compatible with anything without patches. 1
Mister_Discrete Posted July 14, 2024 Author Posted July 14, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, MadMansGun said: that mod splits up the werewolf mesh into parts so it can add tri data to the head & eyes...therefore not compatible with anything without patches. I wasn't having it work with vanilla, so I just did away with it. I'd disabled everything that touched werewolves (except that one obv) and it was still janking them, so I got rid of it. I also did away with diverse werewolves, as per your advice on it being incompatible with too many things. I really do appreciate your efforts though. Edited July 14, 2024 by Mister_Discrete Added thought.
tonitrulupus Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 On 7/13/2024 at 2:54 AM, Mister_Discrete said: So I have been battling invisible werewolf syndrome and I have exhausted all advice I've found through google. I have no idea what's happening, so I can't seem to fix it. The mods I have that deal with werewolves are as follows... Immersive Creatures Immersive World Encounters Creature Framework More Nasty Critters Moonlight Tales Diverse Werewolves Collection Also, I assume Schlongs of Skyrim and Hoodies have some part to play here because the werewolves aren't ENTIRELY invisible. I get a dingus, and one eye that's missing a texture (purple) floating around. And of course, the Bashed Patch Now here's the weird thing...If I spawn in a werewolf using the console, some of them show up just fine...save for the left-eye texture being wonky. It seems like any that have this issue are the vanilla werewolves. Beyond that, if I transform my character into a werewolf, he is also invisible. I've tried re-installing mods, rearranging mods in the load order, rearranging mods in the left panel of MO2, going into the CK to make sure the armor addons are correctly assigned....I've tried disabling werewolves in the creature framework MCM, disabling the extra features in Moonlight tales MCM, unpacking the textures from the mod BSAs so they're sure to overwrite.... NOTHING is working! What am I missing? Does anyone have even the faintest idea of what could be going wrong, or how it can be fixed? Aldo for anyone who simply must see the entirety of my load order..... Reveal hidden contents # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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Whiterun - Men.esp NITHI NPCs - Whiterun - Women.esp USMP - Cutting Room Floor.esp ShocksSaltMinesofSkyrim.esp JKs Whiterun Outskirts - CC Fishing patch.esp Blue Whales.esp LCO_BleakFallsTower.esp LCO_BannermistTower.esp LCO3D_Nilheim.esp JKs Windhelm Outskirts - CC Ebony Plate Armor patch.esp moretosaywhiterun.esp LCO_SnowpointBeacon.esp Whiterun Exteriors - s6o6 Oblivion Gates patch.esp moretosayriverwood.esp Natural Waterfalls - SLaWF Patch.esp fallenbridgesSSE-Patch.esp LCO_BthalftRuins.esp JKs Whiterun Outskirts - SkyTEST Patch.esp moretosayshorsstone.esp Eli_Landscape Fixes Hendraheim Patch.esp BlendedRoadsFixes.esp HFE-CRF-Patch.esp HPP - FirewoodSnow Campfire.esp JKs Silver-Blood Inn - Spell Knight Armor Patch.esp JKs Silver-Blood Inn - KIC Patch.esp LCO3D_FalkreathWatchtower.esp JKs Windhelm Outskirts - Skyrim 3D Signs patch.esp JKs Whiterun Outskirts - Hearthfire Extended Patch.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp EyesMod2.esp [NINI] Open Waist.esp Bandit Sluts.esp Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - Alternative Armors - Elven Hunter.esp OtherCWFactionArquebus.esp Ryn's Bleakfalls Tower Lawbringer Basic Patch.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp Pets of Skyrim - JK's Skyrim Patch.esp LCO_FSL-KotN_Patch.esp Rubys_SS_SaS_Patch.esp JKs Solitude Outskirts - JKs Skyrim patch.esp JKs Windhelm Outskirts - Skyrim Sewers patch.esp JKs Whiterun Outskirts - 3DNPC Patch.esp Kynreeve Armor.esp Bandit War - Lawbringer Rift Watchtower.esp Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp RMB SPID - Core.esp Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - Hendraheim.esp HPP - FirewoodSnow.esp JKs Ragged Flagon - Embers XD Patch.esp JKs Ragged Flagon - USSEP Patch.esp Dwemer Storage Cube Enhanced.esp Dwemer Storage Cube - A Portable Home Enhanced Edition - Auto Sort v1.01.esp HPP - Vaermina's Torpor.esp Skyland Watercolor - Slow Green iNeed.esp BlendedRoads.esp Origins Of Forest - 3D Forest Grass Smaller.esp S3DRocks.esp Moss Rocks.esp blendedshrooms.esp HappyLittleShrubs.esp Simplicity of Snow - Dwemer Sanctuary Patch.esp Simplicity of Snow.esp WIZ_FoscsF.esp Cathedral - Water.esp Shaders of Solstheim.esp Ashbound Revisited.esp Simple Snow Improvements - Skyrim.esp Simple Snow Improvements - Giant Obelisk.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp YOT - Survival Mode.esp PornyLoadScreens.esp Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp At Your Own Pace - Misc.esp JS Instruments of Skyrim SE - Uniques.esp WiZkiD Specific Signs.esp HD Stone Quarry and Clay Deposits SE.esp Stones of Solitude.esp Bigger Windmill Sails for SMIM - Solitude Clip Fix.esp AMatterOfTime.esp UIExtensions.esp MCMHelper.esp iWant Status Bars.esp I4IconAddon.esp Dynamic Activation Key.esp JaxonzMCMKicker.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp jks skyrim tree fix.esp KarthwastenTSAGrassPatch.esp Great Village of Kynesgrove - CC - Fishing Patch.esp JKs Riften Outskirts - CC Wild Horses patch.esp JKs Windhelm Outskirts - USSEP patch.esp JKs Markarth Outskirts - CC Fishing patch.esp JKs Markarth Outskirts - Immersive Encounters patch.esp JKs Solitude Outskirts - SIC patch.esp JKs Solitude Outskirts - Skyrim 3D Landscapes patch.esp JKs Solitude Outskirts - USSEP patch.esp JKs Whiterun Outskirts - Tundra Homestead Patch.esp PAN_Aumriel.esp Contractor Armor.esp Evil MasterMind Armor.esp TacValt_WintersunPatch.esp HFE-Sunhelm Patch.esp SunHelm - CC Farming Patch.esp JKs Skyrim - Farming Patch.esp JK's Skyrim - Raise Riften Plaza USSEP Patch.esp JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp JS Dragon Claws AE - Helgen Reborn.esp JKs Bannered Mare - Immersion Patch.esp Helgen_Reborn_-_Immersive_Start.esp LootableSigilStonesHR.esp KarthwastenTSA-Peddler.esp Gildergreen Is Really Thicc HD.esp JS Dragon Claws AE - Skyrim Sewers.esp Skyrim AE Home Wall Leaning Markers.esp Embers XD - Patch - Goldenhills Plantation.esp Embers XD - Fire Magick Add-On.esp Great Village of Kynesgrove - Embers XD [XD ESP] Patch.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp know_your_enemy2.esp Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp MonsterLipSync1.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp BnP -Eyepack.esp Koralina's Eyebrows.esp KSHairdosSMP.esp Beards.esp CuyiAntlers.esp Realistic Haircolors.esp Simple Hunting Overhaul.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp HIMBO.esp RaceMenuMorphsHIMBO.esp Slof's Fluffy Khajiit Tails.esp Dead_Briarheart_SOS_fix.esp koralinas_freckles_moles.esp slordars_body_freckles.esp Koralina's Makeup Tweaks.esp WNB_WeatheredNordicBodypaints.esp SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon.esp SOS - Pubic Hair for Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - Pubic Hair for VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - Pubic Hair for VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp TattoosOfSkyrim.esp AIO SE TATTOOS.esp CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp CommunityOverlays3.esp XPMSE.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp Animated Cart Canopy.esp IvyAnim.esp StonewallIvy.esp At Your Own Pace - Thane Overhaul.esp ImmersiveInteractions.esp Animated Ingredients.esp Animated Potions.esp BodyLanguage.esp EVGConditionalIdles.esp SolitudeThroneFix_BOS.esp TaberuAnimation.esp Taberu Animation - Fishing Patch.esp Reanimated Detector.esp Simply Rest Anywhere.esp WadeInWater.esp WadeInWaterRedone.esp Fine fur mantle.esp SMPClothing.esp _Fuse00_ArmorInquisitor.esp [Melodic] Drake Huntress_CBBE SE.esp Schaken-Mods_Arabian.esp Gatti12Jewelry.esp Fancy Dress.esp C5Kev's Woman Of The Wild Armor CBBE.esp BDO Valkyrie Olympia [Dint999] [SE].esp lingling.esp Fantasia Outfit.esp [Melodic] Elf Song Outfit.esp [NINI] Death Lady.esp [Christine] Black Magic Grove.esp BloodMage.esp Daughters of Dimitrescu.esp Bald Head.esp Falkreath_Bathhouse_KIC_Patch.esp DCK_Falkreath_Bathhouse_LCPatch.esp Fixed body collision.esp Cloaks&Capes.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp Sneak Tools (Minimal).esp WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension_SPID.esp CFTO - Warm Clothing - SPID.esp moretosaycityguards.esp Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp LeftHandRings.esp Cloaks&Capes SMP.esp Cloaks - RMB SPCH.esp WetandCold.esp Winter is Coming Cloaks - RMB SPCH.esp FL_SPID - Cloaks & Capes.esp IA CBBE Patch.esp IA_CBBE.esp Immersive Armors Weight Patch.esp DNPCsImmersiveArmors.esp SkyrimSpearMechanic.esp Animated Immersive Weaps.esp BB's Solstheim NPC Overhaul - Men.esp BB's Solstheim NPC Overhaul - Women.esp Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp Better Civil War Guards - Less Oppressive Occupation.esp DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp BB's Dark Brotherhood NPC Overhaul Revisited - Men.esp BB's College of Winterhold NPC Overhaul Revisited - Men.esp BB's College of Winterhold NPC Overhaul Revisited - Women.esp BB's Dark Brotherhood NPC Overhaul Revisited - Women.esp AnimatedArmoury-USSEP_patch.esp Skyrim Spear Mechanic Balance tweaks_WACCF or CCOR.esp emperor'scrossbow.esp TrueDirectionalMovement.esp Dplay_Block_SparksN.esp Book Of Shadows.esp CollisionReset.esp WICourierRadiant.esp Dark Brotherhood assassin loot fix.esp Dunmeri Ghosts - Dunmeri Gear.esp DunmerOutfits_DISTR.esp Dynamic Things Alternative.esp Footprints.esp FootprintsSand-patch.esp footprints-ultimateFix.esp Gotobed.esp Gotobed-HearthFires-patch.esp Bloodmoon.esp Desecration.esp Arcane.esp Vulcano.esp Necrom.esp Arclight.esp Flames of Coldharbour.esp MerchantsDontFollow.esp 50 More Perk Points.esp Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp Heavy Armory - Summermyst Enchanted WACCF version.esp Animated Armoury - Summermyst Enchanted WACCF version.esp Skyrim Spear Mechanic - Summermyst Enchanted WACCF version.esp Realistic AI Detection 3 - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp Dynamic Weather And Time Based Detection.esp SkyrimReputation_SSE_Wintersun.esp Skyrim Reputation Improved.esp Skyrim Reputation Patch.esp Sleeping Expanded.esp More Dialogue Options.esp TimingIsEverything.esp TGR Droppable Stones Patch.esp Use Those Blankets.esp Use Those Blankets - Campfire Patch.esp Immersive Speechcraft.esp Immersive Speechcraft SE - No Helmet Patch (ESL).esp know_your_enemy_2_armors.esp know_your_enemy_2_integration_patch.esp SimplerKnock.esp SunHelmDiseases.esp SunHelmCampfireSkill.esp Book 'Em.esp LCO_MarasEyeDen.esp configurable_perks_per_level.esp JKs Drunken Huntsman - Civil War Champions Patch.esp 3DNPC - CRF Patch.esp 3DNPC1.esp YOT - Keep it Clean.esp KeepItClean-ArtisanSoap.esp KeepItClean CathedralWater3.7 patch.esp JKs Arcadias Cauldron - USSEP Patch.esp JKs Arcadias Cauldron - Bow of Shadows Patch.esp JKs Arnleif and Sons - Rugnarok patch.esp JKs Bee and Barb - Embers XD Patch.esp JKs Bee and Barb - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp JKs Belethors General Goods - Rugnarok patch.esp JKs Candlehearth Hall - 3DNPC Patch.esp JKs Candlehearth Hall - Embers XD Patch.esp JKs Candlehearth Hall - Rugnarok patch.esp JKs Candlehearth Hall - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp JKs Drunken Huntsman - USSEP Patch.esp JKs Haelgas Bunkhouse - Animated Armory Patch.esp JKs Haelgas Bunkhouse - Rugnarok patch.esp JKs Haelgas Bunkhouse - KIC Patch.esp JKs New Gnisis Cornerclub - Rugnarok patch.esp JKs Silver-Blood Inn - 3DNPC Patch.esp JKs Silver-Blood Inn - Embers XD Patch.esp JKs Silver-Blood Inn - Alt Dwarven Plate Patch.esp JKs Sleeping Giant Inn - Embers XD Patch.esp JKs Sleeping Giant Inn - 3DNPC Patch.esp JKs Temple of Dibella - ACE Patch.esp EBT - IC PATCH.esp Wintersun - SIC Patch.esp JKs College of Winterhold - USSEP patch.esp JKs College of Winterhold - 3DNPC Patch.esp JKs College of Winterhold - Animated Armory Patch.esp JKs College of Winterhold - CC - Goldbrand Patch.esp JKs College of Winterhold - ACE Patch.esp SIC CClub Nixhound Patch.esp SIC CClub Saints & Seducer Integration.esp EmbersXD-Campfire Patch.esp HA-AnimatedArmoury-DawnguardWeapons_lvllist-patch.esp HeavyArmory-AnimatedArmoury-SkyrimSpearMechanic-SummermystEnchWACCF-lvllistpatch.esp Kai_Backstories-RDO_Patch.esp Bring Meeko to Lod.esp Kai_Backstories-MeekoToLod_Patch.esp RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp KSHairForRDO.esp More Dialogue Options - Immersive Encounters patch.esp More Dialogue Options - Guard Dialogue Overhaul patch.esp guardencounters.esp moretosaygeneric.esp moretosaykarthwasten.esp moretosaywinterhold.esp priestsgrantblessings.esp secretofrorikstead.esp MoreDialogueOptions_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp MoreToSay_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp Simple Hunting Overhaul_DialogueTags_RC.esp SimpleHuntingOverhaul_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp HearthFires - Customizable Fertile Soil.esp HearthFires - Customizable Fertile Soil - CC Farm Patch.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp DNPCsCirclets.esp NITHI NPCs - The Companions - Men.esp NITHI NPCs - The Companions - Women.esp NITHI NPCS - Dawnguard DLC - Fort Dawnguard - Men.esp NITHI NPCS - Dawnguard DLC - Volkihar - Men.esp NITHI NPCS - Dawnguard DLC - Fort Dawnguard - Women.esp NITHI NPCS - Dawnguard DLC - Volkihar - Women.esp NITHI NPCS - The Reach - Women.esp NITHI NPCs - The Rift - Men.esp NITHI NPCS - The Rift - Women.esp NITHI NPCs - The Thieves Guild - Men.esp NITHI NPCs - The Thieves Guild - Women.esp AnukethHaelgaReplacer.esp PAN_Sovngarde.esp USMP - WACCF - GDO patch.esp RSChildren.esp CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp HelgenRebornRSChildrenPatch.esp PopulatedSkyrimHellEditionRSChildrenPatch.esp Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp RSC 3DNPC Patch.esp CW_Enjia.esp CWRNimriel.esp CWOGGuardArmor.esp DIVERSE SKYRIM - LOO Patch.esp Real Armies.esp CW Diverse Soldiers.esp Real Armies - Diverse Skyrim Patch.esp Patrol Bounty Disabled.esp Civil War Officer Corps.esp Civil War Officer Corps - 50 Chance.esp Civil War Officer Corps - UESSP PATCH.esp DwemerCompass.esp Fashions of the Banditry.esp High Poly NPC Overhaul - JK's Skyrim.esp High Poly NPCs - 3DNPC.esp High Poly NPCs - SkyrimSewers.esp Imperial Honor Guard.esp 3DNPC Visual Overhaul.esp Jailors and Turnkeys.esp CC-NecromanticGrimoire_WACCF_Patch.esp Cloaks&CapesSMP_ACE_Patch.esp CuttingRoomFloor_WACCF_Patch.esp RSChildren_WACCF_Patch.esp SIC AMB Patch.esp SIC ACE Patch.esp SIC WACCF Patch.esp WarmongerArmory_ACE_Patch.esp Man Those Border CW Aware - LOO Patch.esp Civil War Deserters - Texture Fix.esp OdinEyePatch.esp Real Armies - Immersive Patrols II Patch.esp Retouched Bandits Of Skyrim.esp Retouched Forsworn of Skyrim.esp RMB SPID - Fashions of the Banditry.esp The Jarl's Household Guards.esp Redoran Council Guard.esp YOT - Andromeda.esp YOT - Bloodchill Manor.esp YOT - Bone Wolf.esp YOT - Camping.esp YOT - Civil War Champions.esp YOT - Cutting Room Floor.esp YOT - CWRepairs.esp YOT - Dawnfang and Duskfang.esp YOT - Farming.esp YOT - Fishing.esp YOT - Forgotten Seasons.esp YOT - Gallows Hall.esp YOT - GOTT.esp YOT - Grimoire.esp YOT - Helgen Reborn.esp YOT - Hendhraheim.esp YOT - Interesting NPCs.esp YOT - KOTN.esp YOT - Myrwatch.esp YOT - Nix Hound.esp YOT - Odin.esp YOT - Pets of Skyrim.esp YOT - Saints & Seducers.esp YOT - Shadowfoot.esp YOT - Shadowrend.esp YOT - Summermyst.esp YOT - The Cause.esp YOT - The Contest.esp YOT - Tundra Homestead.esp YOT - Umbra.esp YOT - Vigil Enforcer Armor Set.esp YOT - Wild Horses.esp YOT - Wintersun.esp YOT - Wraithguard.esp Precision.esp EnhancedAtronachs.esp Bears of the North.esp AcolyteMasks.esp mihailgelatinouscube.esp mihailtalkativedragonpriests.esp mihailtalkativehagravens.esp mihailtalkativewispmothers.esp mihailtalkativefalmers.esp talkativeflameatronachs.esp mihailtalkativespriggan.esp mihailtalkativestormatronach.esp HagravenSkinShaders.esp PraedysSkeletons.esp Whiterun Giant Drops Stuff.esp RAID Weathers.esp RealRainSE.esp VolumeticMists.esp VolumeticMistsSolstheim.esp earthquakes - MCM.esp AOS_EBT Patch.esp AcousticTemplateFixes_CC_Farming.esp AcousticTemplateFixes_CC_Seducers.esp AcousticTemplateFixes_ReverbInteriorSounds.esp Reverb Interior Sounds Expansion_VolumeSlider_Rain.esp Reverb Interior Sounds Expansion_VolumeSlider_Thunder.esp Airgetlam.esp Bandit Lines Expansion.esp DarkElfVoicesForBandits.esp Werebeasts Dont Talk.esp CarriageAndStableDialogues.esp Wild Horses - Dialogues.esp Civil War Lines Expansion.esp Civil War Lines Expansion - No Guard Idles Patch.esp Forsworn and Thalmor Lines Expansion.esp Vampire Lines Expansion.esp Vampire Lines Expansion - Orc Addon.esp SongstoExploreto2.0.esp SeranaDialogAddon_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp Race Compatiblity - Serana Add-on Dialogue.esp SDA Campfire Patch.esp SDA CC Umbra Patch.esp SDA RDO Patch.esp SkyrimsGotTalent-Bards.esp SkyrimsGotTalentBardStudentPatch.esp ImGladYoureHere.esp ImGladYoureHere_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp SDA GYH Patch.esp BardsRebornStudent USSEP Patch.esp BardsRebornDebugMenu.esp BardsReborn KeepitClean Patch.esp Immersive Bears of the North Patch.esp SkyTest Bears of the North Patch.esp BA_BardSongs_AIO.esp MawAssets.esp MW Namira Followers.esp GYH_SkyrimsGotTalent_patch.esp SkyrimsGotTalent-Bards_3dnpc.esp SkyrimsGotTalent_AnimAddon.esp SGT_BardStudentPatch_Anim.esp DEG_DontEatGlass.esp OBody.esp Lupine_YyvengarBodypaints.esp BarbarianPaints.esp Lupine_ZiovendianBodypaints.esp RutahWarpaints.esp Warrior_Paints.esp Tribal_Combatants_NA.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp RealNames - SSE Edition.esp DeathbrandNoDepletionFIX.esp MenuMaid2.esp BodySlotsMCM.esp BathtubsBasins.esp Race Compatibility Dialogue SSE - Helgen Reborn.esp Race Compatibility Dialogue SSE - Interesting NPCs.esp Race Compatibility Dialogue SSE - RDO.esp EquipableTailsSE.esp Sidequests of Skyrim.esp Clear Shaders.esp OAroused.esp OSLAroused.esp SLACS.esp SexLab Eager NPCs_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp SLEN Dialogue Tweak.esp YouDontNeedABreak.esp SexLabDefeat.esp AnubAnimObj.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp FlufyFoxAnimObjects.esp NCK30Obj.esp PeeAndFart.esp SLALAnimObj.esp ABMM.esp SexLab Submit.esp ZAZpatch.esp MHIYH_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp My Home Is Your Home (MHiYH 2plus) dialogue patch.esp My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp WorkingSlaves.esp WorkingSlaves-ChestsAddon.esp NoOverpenetration.esp Environs - Hroggars House_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp MHIYH2plus_PAHEpatch_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp PaarthurnaxQuestExpansion_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp PAH_AndYouGetASlave_DialogueTags_RC.esp PAH_HSH_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp ParadiseHalls_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp SidequestsOfSkyrim_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp SkyrimsGotTalent_DialogueTags_RC.esp ZaZAnimationPack_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp PAHzazCOMPATCH_DialogueTags_RumCoy.esp 3BBB.esp SOSPhysicsManager.esp FSMPM - The FSMP MCM.esp SexLabTools.esp SlaveTats.esp SexLab Extra Voices.esp Wintersun - SexLab Integration.esp custom backpack.esp True Custom Backpack.esp KJ Tattoos 2K.esp Cannibal's Cleaver.esp banditseyepatch.esp [Christine] DS Chosen Undead.esp WT Tribal Clothe.esp [Caenarvon] Pharaoh Slave.esp Uncraftables.esp Potty Craft.esp At Your Own Pace - Dark Brotherhood.esp At Your Own Pace - Main Quest.esp SLWidgets.esp MuJointFixToggleSLandOstim.esp Potty Patch PS BH HS.esp Illia Enhanced.esp Cannibals Enhanced.esp NordicLeatherArmor.esp Bandit War - Fashions of the Banditry.esp Bandit War - Fearsome Fists.esp Bandit War - Robbers Gorge Fixes.esp aMidianbornContentAddon_PracticalFemaleGlass_Patch.esp PrvtI_HeavyArmory_AMB.esp aMidianBornContentAddon_AA_HA_Patch.esp WarmongerArmory_AMB_Patch.esp SunHelm_3DNPC.esp SunHelm_Wintersun.esp HearthfireMultiKid.esp HearthfireMultiKid [PATCH - AIPackage Tweaks].esp HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp SLAnimLoader.esp DuraksCrossbowConversation2RETRIBUTION.esp LeatherSandals.esp SLATE.esp USMP - 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Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Whiterun Outskirts - ICAIO Patch.esp CFTO-JK-Patch.esp JKs Solitude Outskirts - Immersive Citizens patch.esp JKs Markarth Outskirts - Immersive Citizens patch.esp HelgenReborn+CFTO.esp Convenient Horses.esp JK's Skyrim - IC Dawnstar Patch.esp HFE-CFTO-Patch.esp CFTO_Bittercup_JKs_Skyrim_Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - USSEP Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - Fishing Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - KIC Patch.esp JKs Candlehearth Hall - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - Immersive Citizens patch.esp JKs Windhelm Outskirts - Immersive Citizens patch.esp Landscape For Grass Mods -Immersive Citizens PATCH.esp CFTO-Lanterns.esp BUVARP SE RE - CFTO Patch.esp JKs Solitude Outskirts - CFTO patch.esp JKs Solitude Outskirts - Immersive Citizens + CFTO patch.esp CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp CFTO_fix.esp CFTO - Misc fix.esp JKs Bannered Mare - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Belethors General Goods - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Sleeping Giant Inn - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - 3DNPC Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - Skyrim Sewers Patch.esp JKs Drunken Huntsman - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs New Gnisis Cornerclub - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Silver-Blood Inn - Immersive Citizens patch.esp JKs Warmaidens - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - Alternate Start Mods Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - Immersion Patch.esp JKs Winking Skeever - Thieves Guild Requirements Patch.esp JKs College of Winterhold - Immersive Citizens patch.esp Convenient Horses Anniversary Edition Patch.esp Liv_Andromeda_ConvenientHorses_Patch.esp Andromeda Convenient Horses Patch.esp More Dialogue Options - Immersive Citizens patch.esp CWR_IC_Patch.esp CC-Bittercup_TCIY_Patch.esp CC-BloodchillManor_TCIY_Patch.esp CC-BoneWolf_TCIY_Patch.esp CC-DeadMansDread_TCIY_Patch.esp CC-HeadmansCleaver_TCIY_Patch.esp CC-Hendraheim_TCIY_Patch.esp CC-LordsMail_TCIY_Patch.esp CC-PlagueOfTheDead_TCIY_Patch.esp CC-Saints&Seducers_TCIY_Patch.esp CC-StaffOfSheogorath_TCIY_Patch.esp CC-Sunder&Wraithguard_TCIY_Patch.esp CC-TheContest_TCIY_Patch.esp CC-VigilEnforcer_TCIY_Patch.esp TCIY_CRF_Patch.esp TCIY_Wintersun_Patch.esp YOT - Convenient Horses.esp CarriageAndStableDialogues - CFTO Patch.esp SDA Convenient Horses Patch.esp Liv_ConvenientHorses_RDO_Patch.esp Civil War Patrol Bounty Patch-Custom.esp FairRebalancingOfTransitTariffs.esp Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp USMP - Imperious - Left hand Rings patch.esp AKA_LeftHandRings_Patch.esp YOT - Imperious.esp Trade & Barter.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp Immersive Weapons_CCOR_Patch.esp HA-WACCF-CCOR_patch.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation_CCOR_Patch.esp WarmongerArmory_CCOR_Patch.esp SkyrimSpearMechanic-CCOR_patch.esp Heavy Armory Balance tweaks_WACCF-CCOR.esp AnimatedArmory-WACCF-CCOR_patch.esp Animated Armory Balance tweaks_WACCF-CCOR.esp SIC CCOR Patch.esp HA-AnimatedArmoury-SkyrimSpearMechanic-Blacksmith-CCOR_lvllist-patch.esp HA-AnimatedArmoury-SkyrimSpearMechanic-WACCF-CCOR_lvlist-patch.esp AnimatedArmouryCCOR.esp CC-FearsomeFists_CCOR_Patch.esp CC-Fishing_CCOR_Patch.esp CC-NordicJewelry_CCOR_Patch.esp CCOR_Campfire_Patch.esp Dr_Bandolier_CCOR_Patch.esp New Legion - CCOR Consistency Patch.esp USMP Complete Crafting patch.esp Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp HumanSkinArmor.esp CACO_Survival Mode_USSEP_Patch.esp Taberu Animation - CACO Patch.esp kry-sae.esp CC-Fishing_CACO_Patch.esp CACO Rare Curios Patch.esp CACO Curios Patch.esp Coffee.esp JKs Whiterun Outskirts - CACO Patch.esp Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - CACO.esp CACO_Keep It Clean.esp WEHealingPotions Patch - CACO.esp CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreaturesSE_Patch.esp CACO_Saints&Seducers.esp CACO_SunHelm.esp CACO_Wintersun.esp CC-Bittercup_CACO_Patch.esp CC-BloodchillManor_CACO_Patch.esp CC-BowOfShadows_CACO_Patch.esp CC-ForgottenSeasons_CACO_Patch.esp CC-Goblins_CACO_Patch.esp CC-Nix-Hound_CACO_Patch.esp CC-PlagueOfTheDead_CACO_Patch.esp CC-TheCause_CACO_Patch.esp CuttingRoomFloor_CACO_Patch.esp HearthFires - Customizable Fertile Soil CC Farm CACO Patch.esp Odin_CACO_Patch.esp RelationshipDialogueOverhaul_CACO_Patch.esp SkyTEST_ CACO_Patch.esp SDA Wintersun Patch.esp Convenient Horses - Apocalypse+CACO+SIC+Summermyst.esp Flesh and Fat.esp ogCannibalDraugr CACO Patch.esp Flute Recipe Patch.esp CACO_True Fortify Effects for Magic Skills.esp USMP - CACO Patch.esp Growable Plants Complete..esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp Dwemer Certifed - Ordinator Patch.esp Ordinator-Perk Descriptions.esp Odin - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp YOT - Ordinator.esp CCOR_Ordinator.esp YOT - Apocalypse.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp JKs New Gnisis Cornerclub - Alternate Start patch.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp JKs Solitude Outskirts - Alternate Start patch.esp Alternate Start - Experience Patch.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life_WACCF_Patch.esp Race Compatibility Dialogue SSE - ASLAL.esp Pahe_AltStartLAL.esp nwsFollowerFramework.esp SDA NFF Patch.esp WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp Summermyst - WACCF Patch.esp A Clear Map of Skyrim.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp Synthesis.esp I've been going through it on this, so I'm fairly certain that seeing my entire modlist isn't going to reveal much more than I've stated, but I could be wrong. Ok if you have not resolved this issue, this worked for me, I use TWO (total werewolf overhaul which works great), growl, and moonlight tales mini it is when you change or after the werewolf has sex turns invisible, disable the skins used in creature frame work or if you have an option change it to the one you use as the skin, your having a conflict of which skin to use, I use total werewolf over haul, which adds physics to the male and female werewolf and you must disable the one used in creature frame work or you maybe invisible ot may disappear after certain actions.
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