Lodakai Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Eh.. just can't figure out how to open the damn main menu to assign my captain. So far otherwise pretty smooth. I wanna throw Yisha out the airlock though... EDIT: Feh had to download the damn manual http://cdn3.steampowered.com/Manuals/2870/X_Rebirth_Manual_English.pdf Menu is ENTER.. I wish theyd list it in the hotkey settings under control dammit! =p EDIT2: Yep ran into a nasty bug. When you transport your first captain.. if you select crew while in your ship to talk.. you will get locked out of the cockpit.
Angrybird Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Yeah typical of egosoft, probably a few years before I buy this game, do races have different personalities, I mean does it feel different to be in different stations or is it all the same?
Lodakai Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 so far I have only run into 2 kinds of beings.. people with ugly faces.. and people who must be so ugly that they hid their faces in a helmet.
windpl Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 For me game lags like shit, gona wait for more patches.
Ark of Truth Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 I've had no bugs or issues with the game so far
windpl Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 Played some on new patch still laging and crashed but whatever. Is there autopilot? I looked at mechanic wares but he didn't had one. I fucking hope that there is autopilot somewhere.
Lodakai Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 It's pretty stable.. I just ran into the one issue being locked out of my cockpit starting out. And 1 crash when it had a dump file error when I tried to pause and hit print screen by accident. But for a new release.. its working pretty damn good. SO much potential with this game. I can't wait to see the mods people will come out with. I'd kill for an average price list for merchandise right now though... I do kinda hate the inventory looting system. It lacks depth. Just open boxes... and I don't even really pay attention to what is in them anymore.
Ark of Truth Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 Is there autopilot? I looked at mechanic wares but he didn't had one. I fucking hope that there is autopilot somewhere. Not that I have found But you can get to places quick with your afterburners It's pretty stable.. I just ran into the one issue being locked out of my cockpit starting out. And 1 crash when it had a dump file error when I tried to pause and hit print screen by accident. But for a new release.. its working pretty damn good. Just open the ship menu (Enter) and select Return to Cockpit. Happened to me to Yeah I really hate it when people complain about a game for having bugs when its only just came out. It doesn't seem to work very well on 32 Bit operating systems though. SO much potential with this game. I can't wait to see the mods people will come out with. I'd kill for an average price list for merchandise right now though... I think modding is a bit far off at the moment I do kinda hate the inventory looting system. It lacks depth. Just open boxes... and I don't even really pay attention to what is in them anymore. Don't complain!! It's free credits
windpl Posted November 16, 2013 Posted November 16, 2013 This game is so taxing, you have to do everything by yourself, gathering trade information is chore. I can't imagine building trade empire with this controls :/ And is there any fucking way to "free look" in cockpit to find those fucking station signs without manoeuvring with whole fucking ship? Needless to say I'm disappointed, this is not a X game.
windpl Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Wow that bad? Did you prefer X2 or X3? I enjoyed all, I was developing experience but to answer your question - X3 Maybe it is not bad, it is different. But that difference made this game dead to me. Trade You need to use freighter to trade goods. First you need to find deal, which mean that you have to inspect whole station. Stations now are not single part object now they are multi structures(BIG wast structures) and you need to closely inspect them looking for small icons that represents trade nodes - you can spot them from like 20m away wtf. Ok when you found where to buy/sell your stuff now you have to tell your freighter to do the trade you have to set amount that he will buy/sell and confirm order. Now you need to wait in real time for him to fly his ass there, they removed SETA. Freighter have jump drive that will help to jump between sectors and speed things up but often he will run out of fuel because you can refill him only when he is low on it! Then you are pretty much screwed for 1h. You have literally show with finger what your trade "fleet" have to do. So most of time you will be queuing all this orders and looking for this little signs. But hey! You can loot stuff when you are at station! Finding this trash items in this little boxes are so fun! Managing fleet, that one is good. You would think that escort would be good for your traders? Or maybe you just want to create patrols? Well we have wast commands for your! Commands are: Follow me!(add to fleet) And wait(remove from fleet). Enjoy! Fucking pathetic. Now about combat when have all this previous futures striped out you cant expect much. You can literally kill everything with your default equipment. And non default equipment contains 3 guns and 3 shields if im not mistaken, enjoy your customization! I could write more but honestly it is making me sad so I stop here. Secondly, I would like to say how amazed we all are here by the huge success of the game. Number one on Steam for several days in a row at this time of year when the big hitters come out... wow, we never expected that. It's crazy to see that more than 10,000 people are playing our game at any one time on Steam (even more if you include those who are in offline mode). Madness!
Angrybird Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Most of those seem fixable and a question balancing, egososft usually takes years to finish their games, not excusing them but it's just the way it is, if the trading has depth it should be okay, I'm more concerned with system variety I don't know how much you can change and add to those in the long run.
Ark of Truth Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 People have to remember that Egosoft almost cancelled Rebirth due to lack of funding. They were in serious trouble, They got Rebirth out on sale to get more money to fix it after its release. I have to admit I like the improvements with better graphics and more drone types. While I do agree there are bugs, just give them the time they need to get everything fixed @Angry Trading as been improved loads But that's all I am going to say about that.
windpl Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Most of those seem fixable and a question balancing, egososft usually takes years to finish their games, not excusing them but it's just the way it is, if the trading has depth it should be okay, I'm more concerned with system variety I don't know how much you can change and add to those in the long run. Thing is, that the are against any automation in trade so it wont be fixed.
Ark of Truth Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 lol trading is still done between stations like normal and well as ships.
windpl Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 lol trading is still done between stations like normal and well as ships. I don't want to be sarcastic, so I will restrain myself to saying that I had trade made by player, in mind. Honestly I don't want to talk about this game anymore, it is upsetting me. So I will end here.
Ark of Truth Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 Can still be done with some goods but industrial ones need a cargo ship.
Lodakai Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 I'm running into back to back bugs now. many game breaking ones. Transport ships not functioning... transport ships not being provided properly in missions.. Trades not initiating... corrupted save games... Not being able to control capital ships directly is leading to some real issues. Another peeve of mine.. that I hope someone will fix in a mod. It doesn't seem like you can assign ships to guard one another.. at least I haven't found a way yet. They are either directly in your fleet or flying solo.
Ark of Truth Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 The Nexus just launched its Rebirth section http://xrebirth.nexusmods.com//?
Lodakai Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 Nice! Now all we need to do is wait a few months for some nice mods hehe. Man I hope they don't wait too long on a patch. Tired of my trade ships getting stuck and being unable to cancel trades >< I would say that I am waiting for some stuff like we find on LoversLab.. but old bald women in bad space suits speaking poorly written dialogue with 20 year old voices make me want to snort jalapenos so that I can cry myself to death.
Lodakai Posted November 19, 2013 Posted November 19, 2013 Played some on new patch still laging and crashed but whatever. Is there autopilot? I looked at mechanic wares but he didn't had one. I fucking hope that there is autopilot somewhere. I found a way to pseudo autopilot... If you land on your freighter or cap ships.. you can tell the captain to take you to any area. Just talk to him and give new orders. You can even watch the progress if you work your way toward the front of the ship.. then go afk and make a coffee or something. Pressing , will bring up your map from the cap ships too I really wish there was a bridge instead of just some damn docking bays =/ It would have been much better.. giving the skunk the feel of being in a star wars fighter.. while being on a bridge would give the feeling of being on a star trek ship. EDIT: they do plan on adding more to autopiloting in upcoming patches. http://steamcommunity.com/app/2870/discussions/0/648811852275929537/
Lodakai Posted November 19, 2013 Posted November 19, 2013 5 Restarts... the game is unplayable in its current form. Can be semi decent if they fix bugs. Trade ship AI bugs out... Key user interface windows can suddenly stop working... Ships disappear without warning.. no notice if they were destroyed or whatever happened to them.. Developers currently seem out of touch with or completely unable to quickly repair core gamebreaking bugs. If you haven't already bought it.. don't.. not until a few patches anyway. Sad
Ark of Truth Posted November 19, 2013 Posted November 19, 2013 Freeplay works fine, well 90% of it does anyway.
Ark of Truth Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 Going through the Egosoft forums, I came across some interesting information. Buried in some of the files (cat/dat extractors are now available) is a lot of legacy, commented out code, regarding operation on the X360. I don't just mean one or two lines either, but a significant amount. If it was originally designed as a console-specific title, that would make so much sense now. Yeah, because the game can use the Xbox360 controller for WIndows, the game was build with the Xbox controller in mind as it is the most common controller used in PC gaming.....................for the last time this is not a console port. The game is able to use DirectX 11, any game which is able to use DirectX 11 will have the Xbox operations code in it as the code is built into the DirectX .dll files now. Taken from Steam: Response from Bernd in german: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/X-Rebirth-PC-236813/News/X-Rebirth-fuer-Xbox-360-1097987/ rough translation: We now have an opinion of Egosoft studio boss Bernd Lehahn: "We are experimenting for a long time with console versions of our games X3 Reunion we had already run on the Xbox 1 and Xbox 360 At that time we had problems with the menu and.. the console memory so that we could experiment did not continue. too, during the development of X Rebirth, we have experimented with Xbox 360. A controller controller that is supported now, we have time to implement, the memory problem persists on Xbox 360, however. We had our universe can not accommodate the size with its many details on the console. Therefore, we have again decided against a console version - X Rebirth is a PC game. However, we are very excited about the new consoles, the Xbox One, and in particular the PlayStation 4, so we will deal with it as soon as our time permits. Now, however, our focus is 100% on X Rebirth. " If it was a port then why wasn't the game launched on the Xbox360 first or at all? More importantly WHO THE FUCK CARES?!
Lodakai Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 I wouldn't avoid the game altogether... I would just wait. The fanbase is vast and for the most part.. pretty loyal. Mods will improve much.. given time to be created. Patches will fix much. Perhaps it was a bad choice on my part to preorder something.... during a time when games are released in alpha stages more often than not. Perhaps it is a good thing.. because without my support.. they may well not have the funds to try to fix the game. They fell short on promises.. yes.. but they also did create a pretty good game if it would just work right. I'm disappointed that they failed to see some key potential aspects of their game that would have been EASILY incorporated. But it is what it is.. and it is not all bad. My recommendation.. just wait a few months then check back on it.
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