[REL]HGEC body restored

[Silvist]

Heyo,

 

Very nice work, though I'm not sure if you are aware of this.  ADEC is HGEC variant that was brought to skyrim back near release (notice how the end is the same "EC"..Acdale is the author, so he added his first two initials to it).  Its changed alot over time, but it was originally HGEC ported to skyrim.  I've always been a huge fan of his work, so I'd love to see where this will go ^^

[winny257]

I was also a big fan of the HGEC body into oblivion, there was nothing better!

with DMRA you need to begin not at all, there was so much in the sillicon breasts that was not natural.

but here in skyrim, there are now many body types that are much better!

I was not convinced of the HGEC body, he is just too slim, looks like UNP!

 

german \ deutsch !

 

ich war ebenfalls ein großer fan des HGEC körpers in oblivion , es gab ja auch nichts besseres !

mit DMRA brauchst du garnicht anzufangen , da war soviel sillicon in den titten , daß war nicht mehr natürlich .

aber hier in skyrim gibt es mittlerweile soviele körpertypen die viel besser sind !

mich hat der HGEC körper nicht überzeugt , er ist mir einfach zu schlank , sieht genau wie UNP aus !

[Guest]

 

 

Pics speak for themselves 

alright , time to return to DMRA development .

 

 

 

So liking women with rather small breasts equals liking children now? ...

 

I repeat:

 

[RomeoZero]

 

So liking women with rather small breasts equals liking children now? ...

 

 

 

Ahahaha  , no offence, but you are misunderstanding , how women looks like .They are " developed " . What Ryu made is just a TEEN body type usual. So i joked about it    Naaahh , did not wrote about breasts.You better think about your logic man.He's done a great job altogether.

[Ryu]

Heyo,

 

Very nice work, though I'm not sure if you are aware of this.  ADEC is HGEC variant that was brought to skyrim back near release (notice how the end is the same "EC"..Acdale is the author, so he added his first two initials to it).  Its changed alot over time, but it was originally HGEC ported to skyrim.  I've always been a huge fan of his work, so I'd love to see where this will go ^^

I knew about ADEC long before I started my work on my approach to restoring HGEC and that's precisely why I started porting HGEC myself. I wasn't personally satisfied with how ADEC looked back then. Even now, when I recently compared ADEC to my work directly in Blender I still didn't like it much. It looked like a big stone block (no offense ).

 

While working on HGEC myself I exchanged the arms and legs with those from UNP (not fully though) due to anatomical details that UNP had. Also, I improved the shape of the rib cage, because in Oblivion the upper body was slightly too pronounced in comparison to the lower body. Same for the neck section which I had to manually fit to UNP head. Etc, etc.

 

 

The body might slightly resemble UNP due to the textures. UNP textures have extremely well defined speculars and shading which will affect the perspective of certain body details like muscles. However, the model itself is flat, which you can see when using fair skin or delicate textures. Still, the quality of UNP textures is superb and that's why I decided to fit the UV maps of my work to UNP textures .

 

 

So liking women with rather small breasts equals liking children now? ...

 

 

 

Ahahaha  , no offence, but you are misunderstanding , how women looks like .They are " developed " . What Ryu made is just a TEEN body type usual. So i joked about it    Naaahh , did not wrote about breasts.You better think about your logic man.He's done a great job altogether.

It didn't even occur to me that the joke about children was because of the young look of my toon XD. I agree the anatomy looks a bit teen-ish. Funny thing, I had to enlarge the breasts, because the initial HGEC model had even smaller ones. The breasts look slightly smaller due to TBBP support as well. While walking they actually extend .

 

I might have some plans regarding the body, but first I'd like to do some conversions to see how it looks when clothed .

[RomeoZero]

 

I might have some plans regarding the body, but first I'd like to do some conversions to see how it looks when clothed .

 

And message me please, how you  did merge  UV to UNP ,cause i don't wanna do new textures maps .

[Guest Spikes]

Very interested in your work mate, enjoying what i saw so far!

[Ryu]

Quick update. I implemented the 3D Labia that GECK0 suggested to the body. I have to admit, it looks much more aesthetic. New upload and screenies soon! 

[Guest]

Looks pretty good but it doesn't fix the issue that bugs me most about the current body mods uploaded for skyrim. I am still working on hgec but it will use different mesh data and is currently compatable with all cbbe textures and has these same features. 3d vagina and optional pubic hair that changes colors according to hair tint and vagina according to skin tint. tintBut that's all ill say and continue to keep my project underground as I don't want to have to get people pushing me too fast on it

[winny257]

I again looked at these pictures, would you even a few pictures with H-Cup upload? in oblivion I have also preferred a larger breast.

 

german \ deutsch !

 

ich habe mir nochmal diese bilder angeschaut , würdest du mal ein paar bilder mit H-Cup hochladen ? in oblivion habe ich auch eine größere brust bevorzugt .

[Ryu]

I again looked at these pictures, would you even a few pictures with H-Cup upload? in oblivion I have also preferred a larger breast.

 

german \ deutsch !

 

ich habe mir nochmal diese bilder angeschaut , würdest du mal ein paar bilder mit H-Cup hochladen ? in oblivion habe ich auch eine größere brust bevorzugt .

Yes, recently I also thought that the breasts are slightly too small and it would be a good idea to enlarge them even a tiny bit. Maybe not instantly jumping to H-cup, but still something bigger. There are two major issues though.

 

1. The breasts are already too large for the weights I copied over and in-game you'll sometimes notice that 'jerking' issue common to TBBP and BBP. Hence, I would need to either re-weight the breasts manually, which is hard considering the plasticity of TBBP, or locally copy the weights from a TBBP body with larger breasts. I did that for Oblivion before (that's how the BBB system is hooked most easily to pre-existing meshes), but I have no guarantee it will work for Skyrim.

 

2. Enlarging the breasts might pull the body itself or require more vertices to reduce the stretch effect.

 

Both issues can be effectively solved, but need some time .

[Guest]

Ryu have you tried this. Reposition or size the breast on your source model to match your unweighted mesh. Then bone weight copy. Then if needed add more levels of weight which most likely will not be needed

[Ryu]

Ryu have you tried this. Reposition or size the breast on your source model to match your unweighted mesh. Then bone weight copy. Then if needed add more levels of weight which most likely will not be needed

Funny that you mention it, because that's exactly what I'm trying to do . I took a bigger breast size UNP body and repositioned the breasts (mainly nipples) to roughly fit my HGECR mesh breasts and I'm copying the weights locally. See no reason why that shouldn't work, so I might test it in-game this weekend .

 

EDIT: Everything worked A OK. I got more bounce to the breasts and I think I'll stay with that much bounce. Although, for the breast touching standing idles to work fully, bigger breasts are needed .

[Ryu]

Small bump.

 

I uploaded a new femalebody_0.nif with HDT support and a set of hdt.xml scripts I use. 

 

Enjoy the natural bounce! ;D

[aps16]

Thanks! Looks good.