Dumb as Shit Guards

[Rokabur]

Can anybody possibly point me to a decent guard mod cause I'm getting pissed by guards anywhere I happen to fight. I'm like 7 minutes of foot travel from the nearest city (I mean literally the middle of nowhere) and I get jumped by a mod added dragon. In the middle of the fight a damn city guard shows up out of nowhere and jumps between me and the dragon. Now not only do I have bounty for the city he's from but he decides that one hit is enough that it warrants him murdering me while I'm fighting the dragon and theres no way around having to kill him and thereby gaining a higher bounty.

[Ark of Truth]

Try asking here

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19129-where-can-i-find-non-adult-skyrim-requests/

[Gᴀʟᴠᴀɴɪᴢᴇ]

You don't understand how hard I am laughing from this topic, what the fuck did you do to your game!?

[winny257]

everyone has already seen the play skyrim! you can not just slap random, you have been a little careful.

 

german \ deutsch !

 

das hat jeder der skyrim spielt schon erlebt ! du kannst nicht einfach wahllos draufhauen , du mußt schon ein bißchen aufpassen .

[Rokabur]

Kinda wanted this as a discussion as well cause where in the hell are the guards coming from? Latest encounter I was in the swamp area halfway between Solitude and Morthal. Have 2-3 mods that add dragons to the level lists adds one in that area. I'm in the middle of fighting the dragon when a Morthal guard shows up out of nowhere and gets me to hit him. Now only am i fighting the dragon but now I have a guard who's trying to skin me alive lol. Least in oblivion if you accidently hit someone during combat you could yeild to them if they liked you enough. Here in Skyrim I hit a guard by accident once they're now out to make a few pairs of Argonian skin boots.

[Spyder Arachnid]

Guards randomly patrol the paths and such if you didn't know. I'm sure you've seen them escorting prisoners or just patrolling about (unless of course you use the console command to cheat and give yourself all locations so you don't have to actually walk everywhere).

 

As well, if you accidently hit a guard, sheath your weapon. Leaving your weapon out makes them continue to attack you. Sheath it, and they will sheath their's and talk to you about breaking the law blah blah. If they still attack you after you sheath your weapon, pull it back out and sheath it again. Sometimes it doesn't register the first time.

[winny257]

Guards randomly patrol the paths and such if you didn't know. I'm sure you've seen them escorting prisoners or just patrolling about (unless of course you use the console command to cheat and give yourself all locations so you don't have to actually walk everywhere).

 

As well, if you accidently hit a guard, sheath your weapon. Leaving your weapon out makes them continue to attack you. Sheath it, and they will sheath their's and talk to you about breaking the law blah blah. If they still attack you after you sheath your weapon, pull it back out and sheath it again. Sometimes it doesn't register the first time.

 

the problem is but if you just in a fight with a dragon and find yourself accidentally hit a guard because you can not just stick your sword into the sheath! then runs namely the stupid conversation with the guard and the dragon attacks you on, that would be your death sentence. but if you do not your sword into the sheath're stuck and continue attacking the dragon, then you have more problems with the guard.

in such a situation, I always do it like this: I run as fast as possible, wake up! but the guard should take care of the dragons, if they survive you can still talk to the guard.

I hope you can understand everything.

 

german \ deutsch !

 

das problem ist aber , wenn du dich gerade in einem kampf mit einem drachen befindest und zufällig eine wache triffst , da kannst du nicht einfach dein schwert in die scheide stecken ! dann läuft nämlich das dumme gespräch mit der wache und der drache greift dich weiter an , daß wäre dein todesurteil . wenn du aber dein schwert nicht in die scheide steckst und den drachen weiter angreifst , dann hast du weiter probleme mit der wache .

in so einer situation mache ich es immer so : ich laufe so schnell es geht , weck ! soll sich doch die wache um den drachen kümmern , wenn sie überleben kannst du immer noch mit der wache reden .

ich hoffe du kannst alles verstehen .

 

 

[Rokabur]

I'm far out in the boonies miles removed from any established paths trying to stay alive against a dragon that can kill me in 3-4 hits. I'm trying to avoid its shouts and attacks and out of nowhere I get the messgae in the upper left corner I now have a 40 bounty in 'so-and-so' city. By the time I can even see the ninja from nowhere he's already trying to skin me and sheathing my weapon 20 times won't work.

[Smokermegadrive]

well if you are in the middle of nowhere and no one else is here, you can simply kill him for clear your bounty
fortunately they not have telepatic power like in oblivion

[Symon]

It's interesting to see some things never change!

Daggerfall: Dumb but psychic guards who shouted 'Halt! Halt!'

Morrowind: Dumb but psychic guards who no longer shouted 'Halt! Halt!'

Oblivion: Dumb but psychic guards.

Skyrim: Dumb but psychic guards.

 

... and they say 'War never changes!'

[Uno]

I can't tell you how to deal with your dumb-guard problem, but hell, I simply recommend this tool next time you play dumbskyrim: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/33395/ Go to the NPC tab and change the friend hit interval or the others options, it works for me.

[jbezorg]

Maneuver the fight so the guard is in between you and the dragon and let the dragon kill the guard?

[winny257]

Hi Symon and Uno!

why is the guard stupid?
if anyone a skin on the mouth, but even then you would not keep still, and please tell another one! you would like any other human being, defending themselves, or maybe since her martyr?
the only one good answer here said was "jbezorg"!
when the guard is killed by the dragon, then the bounty is there, but you no longer have to wake up with the mess.

 

german \ deutsch !

 

hallo Symon und Uno !
wieso ist die wache dumm ?
wenn euch jemand eine auf den mund haut , dann würdet ihr doch auch nicht stille halten und sagen bitte noch eine ! ihr würdet wie jeder andere mensch , sich verteidigen , oder seit ihr vieleicht märtyrer ?
der einzige der hier eine gute antwort sagte , war "jbezorg" !
wenn die wache , durch den drachen getötet wird , dann bleibt das kopfgeld zwar bestehen , aber du mußt dich nicht mehr mit der wache herum schlagen .

[Uno]

Ok...I'm not a native english speaker but to my eyes your post make no sense at all. I can't understand a flying fuck. I was just recomending a useful tool, no offense by any means. Peace. 

[winny257]

Ok...I'm not a native english speaker but to my eyes your post make no sense at all. I can't understand a flying fuck. I was just recomending a useful tool, no offense by any means. Peace. 

 

sorry, I did not say anything bad, I wanted to cause eye only the reality. I also speak English and not a word I do not know what the google translator spits out. concerning why I also post my texts in my native language (German) so that everyone can translate the original text in its language. again if I said something wrong, sorry the item.

 

german \ deutsch !

 

entschuldigung , ich wollte nichts böses sagen , ich wollte nur die realität zu augen führen . ich spreche auch kein wort englisch und ich weiß auch nicht was der google übersetzer ausspuckt . desshalb poste ich auch meine texte in meiner muttersprache ( deutsch ) damit jeder den original text in seine sprache übersetzen kann . nochmals wenn ich etwas falsches gesagt habe , entshuldigung .

[Thulas]

 

entschuldigung , ich wollte nichts böses sagen , ich wollte nur die realität zu augen führen . ich spreche auch kein wort englisch und ich weiß auch nicht was der google übersetzer ausspuckt . desshalb poste ich auch meine texte in meiner muttersprache ( deutsch ) damit jeder den original text in seine sprache übersetzen kann . nochmals wenn ich etwas falsches gesagt habe , entshuldigung .

 

 

Vielleicht solltest du versuchen umganssprachliche Wörter und Phrasen zu vermeiden; der Google-Übersetzer nimmt diese immer wörtlich, allerdings ergeben viele davon im Englischen keinen Sinn mehr.

[winny257]

 

 

entschuldigung , ich wollte nichts böses sagen , ich wollte nur die realität zu augen führen . ich spreche auch kein wort englisch und ich weiß auch nicht was der google übersetzer ausspuckt . desshalb poste ich auch meine texte in meiner muttersprache ( deutsch ) damit jeder den original text in seine sprache übersetzen kann . nochmals wenn ich etwas falsches gesagt habe , entshuldigung .

 

 

Vielleicht solltest du versuchen umganssprachliche Wörter und Phrasen zu vermeiden; der Google-Übersetzer nimmt diese immer wörtlich, allerdings ergeben viele davon im Englischen keinen Sinn mehr.

 

 

such a thing is easy to say when one dominates both languages​​!

I do not know what is right and what is wrong? besides, I'm too old for all to learn.

 

german \ deutsch !

 

so etwas ist leicht zu sagen wenn man beide sprachen beherrscht !

ich kann nicht wissen , was richtig und was falsch ist ? außerdem bin ich zu alt um das alles noch zu lernen .

[Thulas]

 

 

 

 

 

entschuldigung , ich wollte nichts böses sagen , ich wollte nur die realität zu augen führen . ich spreche auch kein wort englisch und ich weiß auch nicht was der google übersetzer ausspuckt . desshalb poste ich auch meine texte in meiner muttersprache ( deutsch ) damit jeder den original text in seine sprache übersetzen kann . nochmals wenn ich etwas falsches gesagt habe , entshuldigung .

 

Vielleicht solltest du versuchen umganssprachliche Wörter und Phrasen zu vermeiden; der Google-Übersetzer nimmt diese immer wörtlich, allerdings ergeben viele davon im Englischen keinen Sinn mehr.

such a thing is easy to say when one dominates both languages​​!

I do not know what is right and what is wrong? besides, I'm too old for all to learn.

 

german \ deutsch !

 

so etwas ist leicht zu sagen wenn man beide sprachen beherrscht !

ich kann nicht wissen , was richtig und was falsch ist ? außerdem bin ich zu alt um das alles noch zu lernen .

Eigentlich ist mein Englisch nicht so gut, zumindest wenn es um einen gehobenen Standart geht.

Stell dir einfach vor, dass vor dir dein alter Deutschlehrer steht und nur reines Hochdeutsch akzeptiert.

 

Es ist übrigens nie zu spät etwas zu lernen, solange genug Elan dabei ist.

[D_ManXX2]

You should be more careful when fighting and always watch your surrounding. It's not that the guard was stupid but you was reckless while fighting. You can't chop away and not watch what is in front of you. if the npc's are too close move away and let him do the fighting. and then when he goes down then you move in you should change your tactics.

[Chbaakal]

You should be more careful when fighting and always watch your surrounding. It's not that the guard was stupid but you was reckless while fighting. You can't chop away and not watch what is in front of you. if the npc's are too close move away and let him do the fighting. and then when he goes down then you move in you should change your tactics.

 

OR.....get this mod called No Friendly Fire .....found it on Nexus about a week ago. Also works with Companions and other friendlies.

 

Blast away with spells! No worries with stray arrows or weapon swings! Blow shit up!!!! You might lose a few helpers along the way, but HEY!!!! If they couldn't dodge, they were useless anyway!

 

Besides, all the Essential ones don't die, so you'll be able to finish quests.

 

[Rokabur]

 

You should be more careful when fighting and always watch your surrounding. It's not that the guard was stupid but you was reckless while fighting. You can't chop away and not watch what is in front of you. if the npc's are too close move away and let him do the fighting. and then when he goes down then you move in you should change your tactics.

 

OR.....get this mod called No Friendly Fire .....found it on Nexus about a week ago. Also works with Companions and other friendlies.

 

Blast away with spells! No worries with stray arrows or weapon swings! Blow shit up!!!! You might lose a few helpers along the way, but HEY!!!! If they couldn't dodge, they were useless anyway!

 

Besides, all the Essential ones don't die, so you'll be able to finish quests.

 

 

I did snag that No Friendly Fire for when I was using http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/16127/. I'm just kinda wondering more where the guards are coming from. I only use the roads part of them, mostly i go cross-country so I almost never see them. It's always fun to fight 1 city guard who shows up from thin air, 2 dragons added by mods, 2 bears and 3 sabre cats all at once lol.

[Chbaakal]

I did snag that No Friendly Fire for when I was using http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/16127/. I'm just kinda wondering more where the guards are coming from. I only use the roads part of them, mostly i go cross-country so I almost never see them. It's always fun to fight 1 city guard who shows up from thin air, 2 dragons added by mods, 2 bears and 3 sabre cats all at once lol.

 

 

After I posted, I did a little experiment with a guard in Riften. Seems that when drawn sufficiently far enough from their scripted path, they'll 'lose' their way sometimes. Best way was to leave the guard fighting something (like spawning creatures in their path, then running away to spawn another within their sight). Also, if you've got a mod that adds extra guards/NPCs, changes their behavior files, or just gimps the scripts for locations (Changing the landscapes or towns in any major way) might also cause NPCs to wander far from their normal routes, or stay in the area that they were drawn to.

 

You could try to TES5Edit any suspected mods to find if any have conflicts with guards or their patrol pathing, but I would think it was just another Bethesda bug that no one bothered to deal real attention to. Reminds me too much of some glitches with quest companions that wouldn't follow close, or they'd wander from their 'path', stop to 'remember' what they were doing (for AGES!), and continue on.