After a break from Skyrim- problems to start a new game

[barcido]

Hi to all,

 

my old pc got damaged and I wanted to start skyrim with an fresh start on my current windows 11 pc.  After downloading from steam, I started the game and it seem there are still old saves. 

Even when I start a new game, the carriage in the opening scene always freeze or to be more precise bumped into a rock and the horse is jumping up and down- the carriage won`t reach the town.

 

What can I do to start without such bugs? I also want to play with mods but first the game should work without mods.

 

I downloaded the normal Version of Skyrim (not the legendary Edition) - I use SKSE and I downloaded Vortex- only FINIS is installed.

 

Hope someone can help a newbe like me.  If someone also have a good working mod list for me, I would appreciate it very much.  I remember that the order was important.....

It will be so much work to start anew but I love skyrim.

 

Thank you for in advance 

[Grey Cloud]

44 minutes ago, barcido said:

I also want to play with mods but first the game should work without mods.

 

44 minutes ago, barcido said:

I downloaded the normal Version of Skyrim (not the legendary Edition) - I use SKSE and I downloaded Vortex- only FINIS is installed.

1. The 'normal' version would be the original 2011 version with out any DLCs. Most mods require the DLCs - i.e. the Skyrim LE version.

2. The carriage bug is a well known bug of the vanilla game and nothing to do with mods or old save games.

3. If you want the vanilla game to first work without mods then you shouldn't have SKSE and FNIS installed.

4. You really need to do quite a bit of reading and watching tutorials before you start modding your game.

 

[DarkBlade13]

The vanilla game should be working just fine. I do remember hitting something with the car myself in vanilla and I flew like a rocket ship acros the map XD. I honestly wouldn't bother too much with the carriage even in vanilla. To bypass this carriage issue I strongly suggest you don't install anything but the base vanilla game (not even skse). Then secondly I suggest you install a mod manager. Here I suggest you use vortex. I myself as a veteran modder still use this for it's simplicity (never used wabbajack it looks complicated). For you first mod you install USSEP (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266). After that you can bypass any starting issue with the Alternate start (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/272). This mod saved me soo much time and should help you bypass any carriage issue. From that point you should be able to start a new journey.

If you are going to install skse extract the folder somewhere and trow all of its content inside your skyrim folder. After you installed it, your folder should look something like this.

 

 

Ps: if you installed FNIS I hope you also know how to put it as a tool in your vortex and run the program every single time you change something about the animations or use a mod that requires FNIS. You also need XP32 Maximum skeleton.

Edited August 16, 2023 by DarkBlade13

[Bastak21]

Ok jumping buggy carriage bug is very common in skyrim. By normal you mean I Guess skyrim 2011 version without and of the DLCs. Like DarkBlade13 mentioned I would strongly recommend you to use Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch but if you dont have DLCs this mod will not work. So I suggest you to use an alternate start mod I recommend you to use Extensible Alternate Start (I also use this too). Also don't use the links DarkBlade13 mentioned if you dont have Special Edition/Anniversary Edition. Special edition mods and 2011 skyrim mods are not compatible together.

Edited August 16, 2023 by bastak2341

[barcido]

19 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

 

1. The 'normal' version would be the original 2011 version with out any DLCs. Most mods require the DLCs - i.e. the Skyrim LE version.

2. The carriage bug is a well known bug of the vanilla game and nothing to do with mods or old save games.

3. If you want the vanilla game to first work without mods then you shouldn't have SKSE and FNIS installed.

4. You really need to do quite a bit of reading and watching tutorials before you start modding your game.

 

Thank you for your advise, I will try this, thanks !

[barcido]

17 hours ago, DarkBlade13 said:

The vanilla game should be working just fine. I do remember hitting something with the car myself in vanilla and I flew like a rocket ship acros the map XD. I honestly wouldn't bother too much with the carriage even in vanilla. To bypass this carriage issue I strongly suggest you don't install anything but the base vanilla game (not even skse). Then secondly I suggest you install a mod manager. Here I suggest you use vortex. I myself as a veteran modder still use this for it's simplicity (never used wabbajack it looks complicated). For you first mod you install USSEP (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266). After that you can bypass any starting issue with the Alternate start (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/272). This mod saved me soo much time and should help you bypass any carriage issue. From that point you should be able to start a new journey.

If you are going to install skse extract the folder somewhere and trow all of its content inside your skyrim folder. After you installed it, your folder should look something like this.

 

 

Ps: if you installed FNIS I hope you also know how to put it as a tool in your vortex and run the program every single time you change something about the animations or use a mod that requires FNIS. You also need XP32 Maximum skeleton.

 

 

Oh wow ! Thank you for your post and screenshot- that really help me.  Last time when I played skyrim (155 hours bevor my pc broke  ) was in 2017 - so I forgot a lot. I used then the nexus mod manager. It was difficult to understand  how I arrange the mod order. I just tried it out until it worked,  Today I downloaded now vortex - I guess it is a little bit like the old one mod manager. Is in vortex the mod order also important?

 

 

p.s. Thank you I remember  putting FNIS into the mod manager and launching the game with the FNIS Button.   good point

[barcido]

17 hours ago, bastak2341 said:

Ok jumping buggy carriage bug is very common in skyrim. By normal you mean I Guess skyrim 2011 version without and of the DLCs. Like DarkBlade13 mentioned I would strongly recommend you to use Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch but if you dont have DLCs this mod will not work. So I suggest you to use an alternate start mod I recommend you to use Extensible Alternate Start (I also use this too). Also don't use the links DarkBlade13 mentioned if you dont have Special Edition/Anniversary Edition. Special edition mods and 2011 skyrim mods are not compatible together.

 

You`re right sorry- I have the 2011 version  and all DLCs - but I didn`t installed  the Skyrim Special Edition. I remember that there aren`t compatible with Skyrim 2011+DLCs.

Thank you! I will download the Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch. I hope it will work out.

 

My biggest problem will be getting the necessary knowlede to properly arrange the mod order (without game crashing).   Thank you again

Edited August 16, 2023 by barcido

[Miauzi]

Vor 13 Minuten sagte Barcido:

 

Du hast recht, tut mir leid – ich habe die 2011-Version und alle DLCs – aber ich habe die Skyrim Special Edition nicht installiert. Ich erinnere mich, dass es keine DLCs gibt, die mit Skyrim 2011+ kompatibel sind.

Danke schön! Ich werde den inoffiziellen Skyrim Legendary Edition-Patch herunterladen. Ich hoffe, dass es klappen wird.

 

Mein größtes Problem wird darin bestehen, das nötige Wissen zu bekommen, um die Mod-Reihenfolge richtig zu arrangieren (ohne dass das Spiel abstürzt). Danke nochmal

 

They are helped here:

 

 

Ultimately, it will all come down to this - that their Skyrim becomes an Ae version ... they lack the necessary knowledge for a clean installation of SE (backporting from AE to SE).

[Bastak21]

1 hour ago, barcido said:

 

You`re right sorry- I have the 2011 version  and all DLCs - but I didn`t installed  the Skyrim Special Edition. I remember that there aren`t compatible with Skyrim 2011+DLCs.

Thank you! I will download the Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch. I hope it will work out.

 

My biggest problem will be getting the necessary knowlede to properly arrange the mod order (without game crashing).   Thank you again

İf you have skyrim 2011 version and All DLCs that means you have Skyrim Legendary edition.  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch should fix your starting carriage problem but unfortunately 32bit skyrim(skyrim LE) crashes a lot compared to SE/AE version, you can kill your saves just with a couple of mods so I also suggest you to use Crash fixes and Safety Load. These mods are mandatory for heavily modded games will save your life too many times. There is also Load Game CTD Fix İf you encounter crash during loading a save but I heard it causes bug sometimes and it doesn't always fix the crashing so only use it if you think its necessary. I hope these mod helps you?

 

Edited August 16, 2023 by bastak2341

[Grey Cloud]

4 hours ago, barcido said:

Thank you I remember  putting FNIS into the mod manager and launching the game with the FNIS Button.

You do not launch the game with FNIS. You launch FNIS from the mod manager. FNIS only handles animations it has nothing to do with launching the game.

 

For LE
https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/

https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimLE:3.0.0

[DarkBlade13]

Loading order in vortex doesn't matter. The only time when it matters is when you have files that conflict. If this is the case vortex will inform you and ask wich one should be loaded first. If you have the space on your computer it also really helps to keep a clean version of your game in another location. The mods are stored in a folder away from you game. This means that if you disable all your mods in vortex. Then remove your game / replace with clean one, it is like you never played before. You will keep you game save because they are stored in a third location. Game saves do require the mods they got when playing although quite a few mods can be disabled during gameplay. To clean saves there is something called FallRimtools with resaver.

Edited August 17, 2023 by DarkBlade13