Culn Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 Hi! As of this afternoon, my Skyrim won't start. That in itself is strange, since it worked fine yesterday evening and I didn't install any new mods or made any changes since. When I start the game using NMM, the SKSE (version 1.6.16) starts fine, and then... nothing. Checking my Task-Manager, I found the TESV.exe running in the background, using up just over 40mb of RAM, but thats it. Same problem when I tried launching Steam and manually launching SKSE or TESV from the Main Folder. I tried reinstalling the exe, as well as SKSE, checked my load-order using BOSS and checked the game-integrety using Steam. I am running a lot of mods, but since it worked fine yesterday, I really don't see that as the problem. At the moment, I'm running SKSE Version 1.6.16, enb V0223 and FNIS V4.0 Beta 3. I really hope, someone can help me out here Now my load-order: 00 Skyrim.esm01 Update.esm02 Dawnguard.esm03 HearthFires.esm04 Dragonborn.esm05 ApachiiHair.esm06 RaceCompatibility.esm07 Alicia.esm08 Deus Mons.esm09 HmmWhatToWear.esm0A HmmWhatToWearDawnGuard.esm0B MiniLovers Idles.esm0C MiniLoversSound.esm0D okaazah.esm0E Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm0F SexiS.esm10 SexrimResources.esm11 xazBondageMech.esm12 ZaZAnimationPack.esm13 SexLab.esm [Version 1.15b]14 xazBondage.esm15 YChildren of the Sky.esm16 o3dBondagetest.esm17 EB-Races.esm18 HighResTexturePack02.esp19 HighResTexturePack03.esp1A Breezehome-hf-CTD-fix.esp1B Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 1.3.3c]1C Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 1.2.4]1D Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2]1E Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]1F Better Dynamic Snow.esp20 Rainbows.esp21 SplashofRain.esp22 Immersive Sounds - Magic.esp23 mintylightningmod.esp24 BeastModels.esp25 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp26 StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp27 Cannabis.esp28 marriagedynamicoutfits.esp29 Pupetteer Master.esp [Version 1.6]2A Real Clouds.esp2B sextoys-calyps-2.esp2C Smoking Torches.esp2D Usefulremains.esp2E ZazResources.esp2F Footprints.esp30 WetandCold.esp31 SkyUI.esp32 1AlirArmor.esp33 1CuteKnightArmor.esp34 Airy Armor.esp35 Cloaks.esp36 1nivWICCloaks.esp [Version 2.1b]37 DCSorceress.esp38 DHuntress.esp39 DIMclothes1.esp3A Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons UNP.esp3B Elewin Jewelry.esp3C GladiatorArmor.esp3D HentaiNightmareArmor.esp3E HentaiVoidArmor.esp3F KCEDeathBell.esp40 KCEFlameBikini.esp41 KCEIvoryHunter.esp42 LayerBikini.esp43 LeftHandRings.esp [Version 1.2]44 lolilabs.esp45 Maxwell Outfit.esp46 NightasyBondageArmor.esp47 Osare Panty.esp48 Osare Swimsuit.esp49 Osare Underwear.esp4A R18Pn - Ritter Armor - Heavy.esp4B Ravenous Elegance.esp4C seethroughlook.esp4D SkimpySilverlight.esp4E StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp4F student clothes.esp50 SuccubusByNausicaa.esp51 UNPArmoredBikini.esp [Version 2.2]52 WestWindMisfit.esp53 zarias_restraints.esp54 ZaZ Gags.esp55 ZhaetheriaLegend.esp56 BreezehomeBasement.esp57 BreezehomeRenovation.esp58 Deus Mons_WithNPCs.esp59 FalkreathCastle.esp5A HF_Lakeview_Pool_and_Hotbath.esp5B HF_Lakeview_North_Perimeter_Fence.esp5C okaazah_update.esp5D Proudspire Manor Refurbished.esp5E silverfish.esp5F female mannequins in homes.esp60 CharredSkeeverReplacer.esp61 FreecameramovementThrones.esp62 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp63 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp64 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp65 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp66 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp67 dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp68 xvisionchildren.esp69 YChildren of the Sky.esp6A aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp6B Derrax_Male_Werewolf_ANIMALpenis.esp6C FemaleWerewolf.esp6D ASX_Spells.esp6E BuryTheDead.esp6F fcteResurrection.esp70 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp71 dovahkiinrelax.esp72 FNISspells.esp73 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp74 Crimson Tide - Blood.esp75 ActionPoser.esp76 BySbire_FemaleBehavoir.esp77 NiruinsBusinessPlan.esp78 PinupsMen.esp79 Pinups4.esp7A Pinups.esp7B Pinups2.esp7C Pinups5.esp7D Pinups3.esp7E SexiSArrokAnimations.esp7F SexiSCupid.esp80 SexiSDefeated.esp81 vImmersiveBeds.esp82 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp83 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp84 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp85 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp86 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp87 My Home Is Your Home.esp88 Alicia.esp89 HousecarlWindhelm.esp8A Lydia.esp8B YChildren of the Sky - Yune.esp8C YChildren of the Sky - Tia.esp8D YChildren of the Sky - Nila.esp8E Iona.esp8F FollowerWander2.esp90 HugMe.esp91 Spousetocustomhome.esp92 LylvieveSisters.esp93 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp94 BloodyFacials.esp95 EzEWorldMap.esp96 LegendaryG(light).esp97 MadCompanionshipSpellsInSkyrim.esp [Version 1.5]98 Sextoys Calyps Chest.esp99 xazBondageMech.esp9A Blood Hound Outfit.esp9B JulienneLylvieve.esp9C NanetteLylvieve.esp9D ScreenShot Actor Positioning.esp9E SED7-BettermalesERECT_GOLDEDITION_malePiercing_PA.esp9F Armor Pack IX.espA0 AutoAnim.espA1 DawnguardFX117.espA2 HighResTexturePack01.espA3 FX117 Clothes Pack.espA4 x117Clothes.espA5 x117SteelArmor.espA6 ZaZAnimationPack.espA7 mslZaZArachnophobia.espA8 FNIS_ero1_spells.espA9 SexAddict.espAA ZaZAnimationPackConfig.espAB UNP Airy Belted Dress.espAC zzEstrus.espAD Fancy Dress.espAE CotS Male Underwear.espAF Old women female motion switch to opposite gender anims.espB0 Ig-lee.espB1 SexLabMatchMaker.espB2 SexLab SexChat.espB3 Missing Followers of Skyrim.espB4 silverfish - more brighter interiors.espB5 DreamBurrowPatchWorkMaiden.espB6 Raven Witch Armor.espB7 DraugrSkirts.espB8 Facial X-pression Guide.espB9 Kneirim Farm 1.6.espBA FX117 Chainmail Pack.espBB CannabisUpdate.espBC My Teens.espBD RedguardTeenagerRace.espBE zzLSAR_Clothes.espBF zzLSAR_ArmorL.espC0 Necklace_Glass.espC1 zzGenitalia.espC2 Contractor Armor.espC3 Mavari Armor.espC4 GrassOnSteroids_Short.espC5 GetSvanaLaid.espC6 Spanking.espC7 Terrace Proudspire.espC8 NewmillerPiercings2.espC9 NewmillerPiercings3.espCA SexLabZaZAnimations.espCB Adhesive bandage.espCC Dragon Cliff Manor.espCD xazBondage.espCE AncientSteelArmor.espCF FAMP2.espD0 Jordis.espD1 StormLord.espD2 Studded Leather.espD3 SMAIOMLA.espD4 Rebirth Monster.espD5 RealisticWaterTwo.espD6 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.espD7 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.espD8 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.espD9 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.espDA RevampedExteriorFog.espDB Skyrim Flora Overhaul.espDC ENB Snow FX.espDD CinematicFireFX.espDE Bridge Farm Hearthfire version.espDF Armored Circlets.espE0 EnhancedLightsandFX.espE1 ELFX - Exteriors.espE2 ELFX - NoBreezehome.espE3 ELFX - Dawnguard.espE4 enbweather.espE5 FixedEyeAdaption.espE6 CharGen Morphs.espE7 SexLabSquirt.espE8 NippleRingsForMen.espE9 LustyArgonianMaid&SultryArgonianBard.espEA EB-Piercings.espEB Angeli bdsm.espEC Angelicoll.espED Oblivion Gates in Cities.esp [Version 1.0]EE Garys_Real_Mare_Horse_Mod.espEF Sextreme-All.espF0 UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
Veladarius Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 Well, you have Sexrim, SexLab and Sexis running. SexLab is the only one of those that is still supported so you should probably just use that.
Culn Posted September 30, 2013 Author Posted September 30, 2013 Thanks for the reply. I just tried deactivating Sexis and Sexrim, but the game still won't start...
Suludi Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 Try disabling SexLab? Maybe there's an incompatibility issue with one of your mods cause it was just updated. Since you have a lot of .esm files active, I'd suggest you disable all of them and try again.
Culn Posted September 30, 2013 Author Posted September 30, 2013 Nope, no effect... I didn't update any mods since I last played either
Veladarius Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 when you reinstalled the .exe did you copy it from another place or have steam do a reinstall? If you didn't use steam, try having steam verify your files. You can load your mods into TESVEdit and Wryebash and see if they find any issues. I am thinking a file went missing or corrupt somewhere.
Culn Posted September 30, 2013 Author Posted September 30, 2013 I reinstalled from steam. I also think there's a corrupted file somewhere in there. I just disabled all my mods and .esm exept the Skyrim, Update, Dragonborn and Hearthfire.esm. It took a while to load, but it worked. I'll just backup my Data-folder and do a complete reinstall using Steam. Thanks for the help! @Veladarius: How can I check my files using TESV Edit? Don't have very much experience with that programm
Veladarius Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 Just have it load all the mods you usually do and as it goes it builds a log on the right side panel. Go through that and look for any errors. If it stops completely then whatever it was loading is probably the culprit. There are some mods that if they are missing something then it will just die before getting to the opening screen. Also, Wryebash can tell you if any of the mods you have are missing any dependencies as well.
CGi Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 You use many mods, still below the limit of 255, but still alot.Skyrim becomes unstable with every added plugin, after the amount of 180. Merge your armor, clothing and jewelry mods. Looking at your mod list, this would drasticly reduce the amount of loaded plugins. But be carefull when merging, as you could end up with the same error. As for some reason i couldn't manage to merge the latest versions of Book Covers for Skyrim, ending with the same error you have. i'll try the merge scripts for TES5Edit, you can find on the Nexus, in my next tries. Maybe it solves the problem. Another warning: You can't merge mods with it's supplemental plugins in every case, as some mods have those supplementals as dependencie and removing those after merging them with the mods main file, will lead to a ctd, as another mod won't be able to find it's dependencie, as you disable the now merged files, after merging. Sorry if i'm not clear enough with what i say, but english is not my main language. if you don't know how to merge mods, this video should help you alot: TES5Edit Merge Script by Matortheeternal
Culn Posted September 30, 2013 Author Posted September 30, 2013 @Veladarius: Thanks, I'll try that after the reinstall. So far, the game runs fine without any mods. @CGi: Thanks for the video. Actually, I find what you're saying very clear. I'll try the TES5 Edit as soon as I'm done reinstalling. Also, thanks for the hint with the 180 mod limit. Didn't know that one. I'm going through the mods deciding what I really need/want in my game and then merge some armours and stuff.
Culn Posted October 1, 2013 Author Posted October 1, 2013 Well, it looks like it's not a problem with any of the mods. I've just gotten them reinstalled (most of them, anyway), and the game is running. It only takes somewhere between 10 and 15 Minutes to load. I've tried turning off some .esms, didn't help. I'm guessing, the problem might be a hardware thing. Especially, since the game only started taking this long on sunday, without any updates or newly installed mods on my part
CGi Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 The less mods, the faster the game starts.Hence my recommendation to merge them, despite possible stability issues that big amounts of installed plugins are causing.
Culn Posted October 2, 2013 Author Posted October 2, 2013 Well, I'm going to do that now. What still strikes me as odd is, that the long loading time occured "overnight", without any new mods installed. Loaded in about 3 minutes saturday, needed 15-20 minutes sunday.
Culn Posted October 2, 2013 Author Posted October 2, 2013 OK, That did it. I just dropped to 200 mods and everything is going great. Game loads in less than a minute. Thanks for the help guys! Problem solved
Suludi Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 I had a similar problem. Manually deleting the Data folder (only recommended if you know what you're doing) and completely reinstalling Skyrim helped. 15-20 minutes loading time before, 10 seconds now, and my task manager shows that the game now uses 500 MB RAM less. So now I have almost no CTDs anymore.
D_ManXX2 Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 holy, you have quite a list. Also be careful with the amount of mods. you will be pushing your pc to it's limits. Also the more scripts mod you have installed the more unstable it will become. you can have plenty of textures or armor mods installed but the scripts is what will be pushing your pc. Right now my current pc cannot exceed more 89 mods if i go above this number things no longer work as predicted. I think it is due to memory.
Culn Posted October 2, 2013 Author Posted October 2, 2013 Well, another update from me. It seems the problems didn't have anything to do with the number of mods or esms at all. Apperently my Anti Virus Software loaded an update Saturday night and that was what caused the problems. Had to reinstall my software today and again everything was fine untill the programm loaded the update. So I just disabled the autoupdate and now everything works. @I'm aware the scripts are what's pushing the PC, but I'm rather sure, the ENBs will get me long before the scripts do :-)
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