HeatSeek Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 Simply put... I am getting infinite stretched Futa penis after installing LAPF. As for what mods I am currently using... body mod is... - HGEC Body with BBBvdot 12-34442 These below are in the order shown as well. Oblivion.esm Lovers with PK.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm Knights.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCVileLair.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Currently did a new install of the game so there's not much there and ran in to this issue after installing LAPF for the FIRST time. I didn't have anything else installed, as I said... this was a CLEAN install. Am I supposed to use the "Alternate Female Bodies" that is provided in one of the LAPF topics or is that not required at all? And as for what skeleton I am using, I am using "Growlf's Universal skeleton" controllable version. Apologies if there's been another topic with this same issue. I already looked around but was unable to find it so I just decided to ask for myself and hopefully get an answer. I've tried several things and I'm just about to kill myself. One last thing, this happens during "masturbation". I did edit the ini for it to allow females to have "boners" I havent actually tried it during a sex scene yet.
fejeena Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 Wrong Skeleton ! You must use the LAPF Skeleton, with any other Skeleton you will have stretched animated penis and futa meshes. Edit: Why is it called Lovers Animated Penis Framework ? The Skeleton has penis bones for the Animations ! Edit2: the DLC load order is DLCShiveringIsles.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCOrrery.espDLCVileLair.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCFrostcrag.espKnights.esp
gregathit Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 If you follow the very clear written instructions on how to install the LAPF in both the OP and the "installation instruction.txt" then you would have solved the problem on your own. The install instructions tell you what you must install PRIOR to installing the LAPF. As Fejeena correctly stated, you MUST use the skeleton that comes with the LAPF (which is nothing more than a modified Growlf controllable skeleton with penis bones added) then you will have zero problems. Happy Gaming!
HeatSeek Posted September 26, 2013 Author Posted September 26, 2013 God, I'm a big dummy. Thank you for the help, that solved that issue. Figured out what the issue had been. Ended up having skeleton issues to begin with, with stretched boobs... well it was just bad instruction following on my end. Everything is fixed and working now after I went and re-did everything in the proper order. Thank you once again!
nunyabidnez Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 Have a similar issue, and I am using the correct skeleton. For me, what happens is the pelvis area of NPCs turns into the infinity stretch / silly putty immediately after the sex act is complete if they are the receiver. I have not noticed it to happen if they are the attacker / raper, only if they are the receiver / victim. Like I said, I am using the skeleton as provided in LAPF, didn't seem to notice this prior to Enhanced Grabbing. I'm going to kill that for a try and will post the results. [Edit] Nope, still does it with Enhanced Grabbing deactivated. Going back through the mods to see if there is one that's doing it, will post results.
gregathit Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 Did you install Growlf's universal skeleton and THEN install the LAPF as my instructions point out? Did you archive invalidate via bsa redirection? Post your load order as we really can't do much to help you without it.
nunyabidnez Posted October 3, 2013 Posted October 3, 2013 Did you install Growlf's universal skeleton and THEN install the LAPF as my instructions point out? Did you archive invalidate via bsa redirection? Post your load order as we really can't do much to help you without it. Yep and Yep, I'll get my load order up shortly. Has to be a conflict with a mod, was working fine on my original install. Going through to see if there are any that affect the skeleton, thinking it's Unnecessary Violence III, although I did not allow it to change skeletons during the install.
gregathit Posted October 3, 2013 Posted October 3, 2013 Something changed your default skeleton, with or without your knowledge. Make certain that UV3 or some other mod didn't also get sneaky and put a damn skeleton in a bsa file. I fucking hate it when people do that as it can cause folks to pull their hair out trying to figure out why things went to shit. That is why I always look inside BSA files and generally end up purging shit out of them. You'd be shocked at the amount of junk some folks stick in there. Anything that you installed after the LAPF should be your list of suspects. Look through each and every one to see which one jacked shit up. It is like playing a mini-game of CLUE. Who stabbed Colonel Mustard in the Observatory?
nunyabidnez Posted October 3, 2013 Posted October 3, 2013 Quick question, if I just reload the skeleton from LAPF or Growlfs, should that take care of the issue or would I have to reinstall LAPF all the way? Tried just reloading the skeleton from LAPF and it didn't work, first thing I did actually.
gregathit Posted October 3, 2013 Posted October 3, 2013 It was just a simple matter of something overwriting the main skeleton.nif and skeletonbeast.nif then just installing them from the LAPF should have worked. If it does not then you need to look very closely at any mod you installed to see if they have a custom skeleton inside a bsa file (or one in some random other folder). Posting your load order is also helpful.
nunyabidnez Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 That's what I was thinking too, dammit. Load order is below, sorry about the delay in responding. 00 Oblivion.esm [CRC: 2FF840C5]01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm [CRC: 3044C674]02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI] [CRC: 2D78AA91]03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI] [CRC: DFD4FB97]04 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI] [CRC: 39B4B24E]05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] [CRC: C09734F4]06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b1] [CRC: CCB8C549]07 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7] [CRC: E73357CD]08 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.2.5] [CRC: A91C6EC8]09 Lovers with PK.esm [CRC: 253D8003]0A LoversCreature.esm [CRC: 36E038A3]0B Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.1] [CRC: 3F5452A7]0C DLCShiveringIsles.esp [CRC: 2BB84977]0D Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0] [CRC: CCD63FCF]0E Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp [CRC: A03B8809]0F DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp [CRC: 955FA5B5]10 DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp [CRC: 57751B9F]11 Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0] [CRC: 8F16A015]12 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [CRC: 45BD7EF9]13 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [CRC: 4F003DB0]14 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [CRC: BEA456A9]15 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [CRC: 36DF7A6E]16 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 4547AA1F]17 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: 60FF114D]18 Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp [Version 0.42] [CRC: C4DFF31B]19 MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp [CRC: 9D273C2C]1A Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp [CRC: 8776077E]1B Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] [CRC: AD2A2935]1C OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] [CRC: 5FD2D492]1D Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp [CRC: B7ED8230]1E FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: E6F0D173]1F FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9] [CRC: AD5EC654]20 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] [CRC: A13730DE]21 Knights.esp [CRC: F1F478FA]22 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] [CRC: C6D68D9D]23 Knights Vwalk UOP.esp [CRC: 46352AF6]24 UVIII.esp [CRC: 8865CC58]25 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: B948EAE3]26 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] [CRC: FEC083A9]27 xulTheHeath.esp [CRC: ADDF5F66]28 XulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1] [CRC: A5315F57]29 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] [CRC: EF98D162]2A xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2] [CRC: D44BB972]2B xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3] [CRC: 23CB46F7]2C xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5] [CRC: AF9B96E4]2D xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.4] [CRC: A5C6105F]2E xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.2] [CRC: 72EB506A]2F xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4] [CRC: 943366CC]30 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] [CRC: E541D578]31 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] [CRC: 75E2FD36]32 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4] [CRC: B4255E26]33 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] [CRC: FAEC8265]34 xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.3] [CRC: C5BB3148]35 xulPantherRiver.esp [CRC: AD0A3B5E]36 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] [CRC: 52A9819F]37 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1] [CRC: 57F5CE44]38 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8] [CRC: 2F8835D3]39 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] [CRC: C1C3E5FA]3A xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: 5FAB540B]3B xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] [CRC: 599BB21F]3C xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2] [CRC: 2FC2AE95]3D xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5] [CRC: 218AD648]3E xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] [CRC: 701EF543]3F xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.3] [CRC: E3801611]40 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.1] [CRC: D41E6EF6]41 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.0] [CRC: 94BC6095]42 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: 93873332]43 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] [CRC: 05003A29]44 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2] [CRC: 75F33465]45 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp [CRC: D4CF017C]46 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp [CRC: 0824A2F5]47 LoversRaperS.esp [CRC: 532C4E29]48 LoversJoburg.esp [CRC: 95227F0C]49 LoversBed.esp [CRC: C8E2522F]4A Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v4a] [CRC: DD49B589]4B LoversCreature.esp [CRC: 8BD6EC9D]4C LoversMB2.esp [CRC: 501B307D]4D LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp [CRC: 01033B8D]4E Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.2.1] [CRC: A7638E24]4F Basic Personal Hygiene.esp [Version 2.9] [CRC: 3328361D]50 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5] [CRC: 82992B6C]51 Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp [CRC: 2C1AB109]52 Specialanims.esp [CRC: A01A1A91]53 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp [CRC: 205B2992]54 IDKRRR_C_race.esp [CRC: F9BD2EA1]55 Chocolate Elves.esp [CRC: 214AB6BA]56 Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.2.5] [CRC: 229624CA]57 Better Cities IC Arboretum.esp [Version 5.2.4] [CRC: C3A49726]58 Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp [Version 5.2.4] [CRC: 763E5FEC]59 Better Cities IC Arena.esp [Version 5.2.0] [CRC: F79CC2DD]5A Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp [Version 5.2.4] [CRC: 7871EA87]5B Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp [Version 5.2.4] [CRC: EF16C993]5C Better Cities IC Market.esp [Version 5.2.4] [CRC: BC243666]5D Better Cities IC Prison.esp [Version 5.2.0] [CRC: 837B3398]5E Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp [Version 5.2.4] [CRC: A374B649]5F Better Cities IC Temple.esp [Version 5.2.4] [CRC: 2CDD9B12]60 Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp [Version 5.2.4] [CRC: B847D3C8]61 Better Cities Resources Vwalk.esp [CRC: BBBCFD0F]62 Better Cities Full Vwalk.esp [CRC: A3F532F7]63 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 5.1.2] [CRC: 28A2BDCB]64 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 5.3.0] [CRC: 36C39E14]65 Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 5.2.4] [CRC: 059E3A71]66 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 5.3.0] [CRC: 94A94F8E]67 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 5.3.0] [CRC: 8CF573D4]68 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 5.3.0] [CRC: D9F5661B]69 Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp [Version 4.9.5] [CRC: B6958456]6A Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp [CRC: A06F6ECF]6B LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp [CRC: A30BE85E]6C LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp [CRC: 507FE173]
gregathit Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 UV 3 does include skeletons. Overwrite the following three files that UV 3 installed: skeleton.nif skeletonbeast.nif uvskeletonbeast.nif Use the two skeleton files from the LAPF to overwrite the top two. Now make a copy of the LAPF skeletonbeast.nif file and rename it to uvskeletonbeast.nif Now you are set. UV 3 will function correctly and so will the LAPF.
nunyabidnez Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 I'll give that a try in the AM, let you know what happens. Thanks for your assistance, I really do appreciate it. [Edit} Well, nice try, didn't work. This is the strangest damn thing. Attached is a screenshot of the effect, it only happens immediately after the climax animation, immediately before the tremble animation begins. I'm going back through and deactivating nearly all mods and starting over, will let you know what I find.
Schmooley Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Hey, I've installed LAPF, but it doesn't work. All the 'hardware' looks the same, and there is no animation. For some reason the dicks don't work... I've reïnstalled it, there are no other mods, etc... Anyone got an idea why it won't work? Thanks. *PS, I'd put some screenshots here, but it won't let me..
fejeena Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 What do you mean "Looks the same" ? LARF does not change your Body, it is no bouncing penis Mod. You naked Charcter use the naked Body Mod you have installed. The animated penis lowerbody is only used during the 4 sex stages, the angel of the penis is changed to fit with the sex Partner Body, so that it does not protrude from the Body or head (during oral sex). So you can hardly see the penis, except of Hand Job.
Schmooley Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Hmm... I did find some of the items in testinghall that can be equipped, the way I thought all of them worked. I don't know how to engage the sex acts, I see 4 spells, instill lust, masturbate, sense sexual exploits, and sexual exploist settings. By the way, I looked around in the clothes directory, and there are a lot of different 'tools'. I have no clue how to find/use them though. (Basically, I want to be able to have something like in Grumpf's videos on naughtymachinima.) Appreciate the help
fejeena Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 No LAPF clothes are in the testinghall, the testinghall is not used in the esm and esp. And there are no "usable" clothes in LAPF. LAPF is a Frame work , you need Mods. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6799-lovers-plugin-index-with-direct-links/ and the LAPF Mod pack http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/355-lovers-supplemental-plugin-pack/ No Mods no Sex. Basic Mods Lovers Adult Play Plus for SSP and Lovers Voice SSP Plus (sex via Dialog. The NPC must like you ! ) Lovers RaperS ( rape sex during combat ) LoversJoburg ( Stalker sex, NPCs stalking the Player ( and other NPCs if you choose it in the Settings) ) Lovers Hookers ( Player is prostitute. also male player)
sicko Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 I'm having the same issue except when I replace the skeleton with the one in LAPF my character's boobs go flying into space. Using a different skeleton fixes the boob issue but causes everything to go wonky when the sex starts. So fixing one issue just causes the other to appear. I installed Growlf's first, invalidated, LAPF, invalidated. Does it make a difference which Growlf we use? I tried both and I tried Correna's as well in attempts to resolve the issue, but non have worked.
fejeena Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Growlf's Universal Skeleton the controlable Version http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/37596/ The LAPF Skeleton is the same skeletom with extra penis and butt bones, the boobs bones are exactly the same. So the LAPF Skeleton can not "destroy" the boobs. And you must set "archive invalidate" in the modmanager only one time and never again. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15185-xeo-sp/?view=findpost&p=496940 Your installiation is right, first Growlf's Universal Skeleton then LAPF Skeleton.
sicko Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Test... Growlf's + LAPF overwriting Growlf's... boobs into space Reinstalled Growlf's... boobs still shooting into space Uninstalled HGEC with BBB and NoMAAM, then reinstalled HGEC with BBB... boobs are fixed Reinstalled Growf's in case HGEC overwrote anything... boobs into space Invalidated via OBMM... Boobs still into space So the issue is Growlf's. Now here's where I am most upset: I've never had to use Growf's before (I used Correna's) and because Loverslab decided to force people to use the animated penis I now have too, meaning that unless I find a way to resolve the issue I'm out of luck. If I cannot find a way to fix this can is there a way to remove the animated penis bit and just use the main framework?
fejeena Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 ?? the breast bones in Growlf's and Coronerras Skeleton are the same ( Bip01 L Op1 to 3 and Bip01 R Op1 to 3 ) So both Skeletons should work with BBB boobs. Have you copied the Skeletons manual in the rigth Folder? or created a O-mod with wrong Folder structure? Have you tried another BBB Body? http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/34442/ --------------------------------------------------------- You can use the old Lovers System without ani-penis: Lovers with PK Rev 96 http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3-lovers-with-pk/ with resource pack http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/88-lovers-resources-pack/ and here in post 4 the last Link "Revised BBB 11-200 Animations Pack 12-12-12.7z" http://www.loverslab.com/topic/11501-lovers-animations-workshop-old-one/?do=findComment&comment=255685 The old Lovers with PK works with all mods (not the LAPF pack) also LocersCreatures 2
dc1199 Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 I'm also using unnecessary violence along with lovers. I finally have everything in working order (thanks in large part to the various threads posted on this lovely site), but overwriting the UV skeleton with LAPF seems to have disabled amputations/decapitations. Just wondering if anyone's come up with a workaround? Seems unlikely but I thought I'd give it a shot. MY GAME MUST CONFORM TO MY WISHES GODDAMMIT Cheers
fejeena Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 read http://www.loverslab.com/topic/20076-unnecessary-violence-ii-new-version/page-2?do=findComment&comment=710963
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