Kallout4 Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 Fallout 4 NPCs Reworked View File A mod that changes nearly every base game NPC's ethnicity to one of European descent A total of 17 NPCs. A total List of the 17 NPCs: Knight Sergeant Gavil Knight Lucia Senior Scribe Neriah Horatio Holt Combes Cedric Hopton Daniel Finch Jake Finch Abby Finch Eustace Hawthorne Pastor Clemments Jun Long Preston Captain Kells Glory X688 Read README for Master requirements Submitter Kallout4 Submitted 06/23/2023 Category Other Requires Lots More Male Hairstyles 1
DasKebab Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 Wait, were you the guy who promised to replace all non-caucasian NPCs to caucasians? 1
delete1618 Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) What is the purpose of "white" washing the wasteland? They've got enough problems to worry about without adding genocide to the list. Edited June 23, 2023 by delete1618 9
asnxe Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 the file name "improved npcs" haha - absolutely perfect 1
BuckRuckus Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 So I looked through the pics before I read the description and I was like, "Wait, did they.....Yeah, yeah they did. Why?" 1
CowboyBlues Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 I see there is away to follow a MA so is there away to block their content from ever appearing? 3
vaultbait Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 41 minutes ago, invoker88 said: Report this mod. While this is not a mod I would particularly enjoy, the fact that we've long had a mod here for broad ethnicity changes to raiders sets a precedent. I'd be hard pressed to make a compelling case for why that mod is okay while this one is not. Also mods which make gender changes to NPCs... is replacing people of a specific ethnic group worse than replacing all the women (or men for that matter)? 8
Spyder Arachnid Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 Don't like it, ignore it. Are any of you actually using the mod? No? Then why come here just to cause drama? Any NPC remake is an improvement over the originals, as the base game NPCs don't look that great to begin with. At least some effort was actually put into remaking these characters, and not just a simple skin color change. They took the time to give them unique looks, so at least, props for that. No reason to come here complaining about something you don't even use just to stir up drama. They aren't breaking any rules by posting this here, so again: Don't like it, ignore it. 11
carpedraco Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 Yeah, no. Fetishes and racism are apples and oranges. Comparing them says something about the people who do just like the additive of "European" says something about this mod. I find it interesting that we are quick (and rightfully so!) to get rid of mods that taboo (you know what), but blatant racism is fine. Cool. 3
JB. Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 Funny. I have a mod that gives you a chocker and every time you fuck a black dude the choker gives you some health. Since the game doesn't have a way to identify who is black or who is white, I had to make a list of black characters doing my best to remember everyone. There is no list of black characters... until I found your post. I will be attentive to your updates. In gratitude for giving me a couple more names, here is my formlist in case you want to, uh, catch some more. Spoiler 1
Vaerlock Posted July 24, 2023 Posted July 24, 2023 A bunch of bitches in the comment section. Ignore them, they just want attention. 1
Senator Blutarsky Posted July 27, 2023 Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) Ass fuck gangbang! ..... I posted that for attention. ignore me In this thread or I am equally likely to post baby shark song or a loop of annoying show tunes. (i was just bieng ironic). Real Q- by european ethnicity do you mean like "all white" cause not all europeans are white. so will you just add people who are of all skin colors but alter the speech files so they all speak with a european accent? or just change all their skin to white and just presume all europeans are white? Edited July 27, 2023 by Senator Blutarsky
katrina.balanchuk Posted July 27, 2023 Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) On 6/24/2023 at 5:06 AM, vaultbait said: While this is not a mod I would particularly enjoy, the fact that we've long had a mod here for broad ethnicity changes to raiders sets a precedent. I'd be hard pressed to make a compelling case for why that mod is okay while this one is not. Also mods which make gender changes to NPCs... is replacing people of a specific ethnic group worse than replacing all the women (or men for that matter)? Totally agree with this post. While I personally would love a mod that makes spawned NPCs in one settlement black, another asian another supermutants and another white, preferably configurable via MCM, (because of the potential erotic fun) if someone wants to change specific NPCs to white in the wasteland like this, it is their right to do and to present to the community. And it seems like a lot of hard work went into this and the changed characters look quite good while still looking "wastelandy". This is not Nexus where things get automatically censored to bend the knee to an outraged mob of busybodies. PS: I cant even believe that in my lifetime we are seriously talking about censorship in an english speaking society. When I grew that was the stuff of dystopian horror sci-fi.. Edited July 27, 2023 by katrina.balanchuk 1
Senator Blutarsky Posted July 27, 2023 Posted July 27, 2023 It shoild not be censored. But it should not be free from criticism. Neither content nor commentary response should be censored. I have avoided content comment, except for specific clarification. I do not feel like changing the skin color of an npc makes them European when they still speak with that terrible BAAAstAAAn accent. I want clarification if this mod changes them to truly European with the accent and/or skin color or It’s just the skin color and leaves them speaking like BAaaStAAAn. 3
katrina.balanchuk Posted July 27, 2023 Posted July 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Senator Blutarsky said: It shoild not be censored. But it should not be free from criticism. Neither content nor commentary response should be censored. I have avoided content comment, except for specific clarification. I do not feel like changing the skin color of an npc makes them European when they still speak with that terrible BAAAstAAAn accent. I want clarification if this mod changes them to truly European with the accent and/or skin color or It’s just the skin color and leaves them speaking like BAaaStAAAn. Since the game widely uses Boston accents and they are most commonly associated with irish American diaspora in that city one can see the logic here. 1
katrina.balanchuk Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) PS: I had posted a review here, but realized that it was a different (also non PC) NPC replacer I had reviewed. So I deleted it to minimize confusion. My bad :) Edited August 1, 2023 by katrina.balanchuk wrong file
Lemurion287 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 I have a number of issues with mods like this, but given freedom of expression people have both the right to post such a mod and the right to criticize it. At the same time, hosting sites do have the right to police the content they allow to be posted. Just because you have free speech doesn't mean someone else is required to give you a megaphone. One issue I have with many such mods I've seen on other sites is that they describe their mods in extremely racist terms. Once that happens it's not simply a free speech issue, it's an issue of whether the host wants to platform hate speech. As for sites like Nexus, I think it's simply a numbers game. Whether they allow such mods to be posted or remove them, they are going to offend some of their members. As a company, Nexus has decided that if they have to piss off some of the membership, they will be hurt less if they piss off the "anti-woke" than the "woke." Agree with it or not, it's a valid business decision.
Miauzi Posted September 22, 2024 Posted September 22, 2024 On 6/23/2023 at 11:18 AM, Kallout4 said: Fallout 4 NPCs überarbeitet Datei anzeigen Ein Mod, der die ethnische Zugehörigkeit fast aller NPCs im Basisspiel in eine europäischer Abstammung ändert. Insgesamt 17 NPCs. Eine Gesamtliste der 17 NPCs: Knight Sergeant Gavil Ritter Lucia Oberschreiber Neriah Horatio Holt Combes Cedric Hopton Daniel Finch Jake Finch Abby Finch Eustachius Hawthorne Pastor Clements Jun Long Preston Kapitän Kells Ruhm X688 Lesen Sie die README-Datei zu den Master-Anforderungen Einsender Callout4 Eingereicht 06/23/2023 Kategorie Andere Erfordert Viele weitere Herrenfrisuren I took a look at the pictures... and this mod has almost nothing to do with the people here in EUROPE... except for the skin color. If I add the hairstyle and the beard - well - that's how I imagine a white hillbilly - who acts like a "southerner". Every now and then I come across something like that in real life... the cliché that has come to life also includes an original pickup truck from the US - the "western" hat and the "cowboy" boots... and on a small garden plot the southern states flag - and the "MAGA" sticker. Is a mod like this an expression of racism? ... In my opinion, yes - but in connection with the Boston slang in the English original, the whole thing unintentionally turns into pure satire!
katrina.balanchuk Posted September 22, 2024 Posted September 22, 2024 (edited) I think it would add a lot of spice, if we could have a mod that makes some large settlements primarily one ethnicity or another say white, black, asian . At least for the men and then a female character could play whichever ethnic group is not that. Similarly a lot of NPCs, could be changed to black or asian and it would also be worth our time. Maybe everyone in Diamond City? Just as an example. Not as a crtitique of the OPs file, but his could be one of a group of files where we can rearrange the universe a bit. Edited September 22, 2024 by katrina.balanchuk 1
Miauzi Posted September 22, 2024 Posted September 22, 2024 Vor 18 Minuten sagte katrina.balanchuk: Ich denke, es würde viel Würze verleihen, wenn wir einen Mod hätten, der einige große Siedlungen hauptsächlich einer bestimmten ethnischen Zugehörigkeit zuordnet, sagen wir weiß, schwarz, asiatisch. Zumindest für die Männer und dann könnte eine weibliche Figur die ethnische Gruppe spielen, die nicht dazugehört. Ebenso könnten viele NPCs in schwarze oder asiatische umgewandelt werden, und es wäre auch unsere Zeit wert. Vielleicht jeder in Diamond City? Nur als Beispiel. Nicht als Kritik an der OP-Datei, aber seine Datei könnte zu einer Gruppe von Dateien gehören, in denen wir das Universum ein wenig neu ordnen können. And revive the old idea of racial segregation and ghetto formation - so to speak racism through the back door
katrina.balanchuk Posted September 22, 2024 Posted September 22, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Miauzi said: And revive the old idea of racial segregation and ghetto formation - so to speak racism through the back door Really? Didnt you applaud Black male Raiders like most on this board (as do I)? Instead of reverting to conditioned responses, think about it. In the real world you go to different places and they have different ethnic make-ups. Its this new place called immersion and realism. I believe some large settlements would work well, better even, if they were mostly white, black or asian, especially with an eye towards erotic mods. As an erotic website wouldnt that be especially interesting? Depending what you are into, if you play as a strong guy who is a jerk, you could get girls from one and sell them in another place of different ethnicity, just as an example of what a erotic mod could be/do. Or for a female character: Barbarous continent for example could be all black or all asian population ,(we already have a version thats mostly white, nothing wrong with that either), as as a plot point they like to import girls like yourself as sex objects from the Commonwealth. And the "investigation", perhaps, was just a ploy for you to deliver yourself to the Island. So much potential if you introduce this realistic human mechanism. I for one think it would be fantastic if we had a large built up and populated settlement (like sunshine tidings, etc) or Diamond City or barbarous Continent where the population, at least the men, was nearly all asian or Black (either or not both). And the women could be mostly that too, but not exclusively, as some importation of girls from elsewhere for sex has already occured. But no murder orgies or mutilations out of race hatred, just some realistic importing girls from another location for brothels, sexfun etc. maybe a bit like uptonogood without the hanging corpses and the girls all coming from the outside of the settlement as shown by their looks. Hisotrical precent is all over, perhaps the largest example being centuries of turkish/ottoman incursions into Ukraine/Southern Russia. And while they took men too it appears to have been very much focused on capturing women for the brothels and girl auctions. Something different, spicy but not mean spirited and would work well in the erotic spirit of this website, in my humble opion. Edited September 22, 2024 by katrina.balanchuk 1
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