IoriK Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 i've installed nearly every patch under the sun that should theoretically work, including enb, here's the most recent crash log and the load order any help is much appreciated # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm CreatureFramework.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm High Poly Head.esm Modular Clothing System.esm TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm BeeingFemale.esm hdtHighHeel.esm paradise_halls.esm FNIS.esp SkyUI.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp Cumshot.esp CumshotSL.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp KomAnimObjects.esp SLAnimLoader.esp NoOverpenetration.esp AhegaoTongues.esp Apropos2.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp Live Action.esp SlaveTats.esp Eyes of Aber.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp SGEyebrows.esp KS Hairdo's.esp EVGConditionalIdles.esp Expressive Facegen Morphs.esp Dynamic Clothing System - Kinky Stuff.esp CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp SexLabWorkingGirl.esp RLO - Interiors.esp Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp zzEstrus.esp zzEstrusMimic.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp BlackthornManor.esp RLO - Exteriors.esp SeranaDialogAddon.esp troublesofheroine.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp HentaiCreatures.esp SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp Silverstead.esp SkyfallEstateBuildable.esp PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp troublesofheroineDG.esp SkyCasino.esp troublesofheroineDB.esp dvmb.esp TentaCave.esp meintitan.esp SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp Mikasa_follower.esp Recorder Follower Base.esp pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp DiaryOfMine.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp ABSNecro.esp UIExtensions.esp SC_HorseReplacer.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp Modular Clothing System - Races Patch.esp Unique Uniques.esp sr_ifpssl.esp BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp BFA_CreatureChildActors_V+DG+DB.esp [old aunt]modaoqianren.esp [KijikoHair_MalePack].esp TKH Valerica.esp TKH Serana.esp paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp troublesofheroineHF.esp Elf_Follower.esp BadDogSchlongCore.esp BDHoodieSchlong.esp BDOrcSchlong.esp BDSpikySlitSchlong.esp SOS - Leito Addon.esp Crimson Blood Armor.esp SDA DX Crimson Blood Patch.esp LustmordVampireArmor.esp SDA Lustmord Patch.esp My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp Pahe_Dragonborn_fixes.esp Pahe_Immersive_Creature fixes patch.esp SLSW Addicted.esp dcc-dm2.esp DOMAYGAS.esp majormodder Bunny Mask.esp RLO - Effects.esp RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp ContinueGameNoCrash.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp crash_2023_06_13_20_42_1.log
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, IoriK said: i've installed nearly every patch under the sun that should theoretically work, including enb ? 27 minutes ago, IoriK said: SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp outdated, depending on... 27 minutes ago, IoriK said: MoreNastyCritters.esp ...the MNC version you use even worse if you also use ABC HDT with MNC
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, IoriK said: ContinueGameNoCrash.esp outdated if you need that use https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443/? 1
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, IoriK said: TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm What version of ZAP are you using? ZAP 8+ includes all you need Edited June 13, 2023 by donttouchmethere
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 skyrim constant ctd but when? on start up main screen? in LAL? early game? regularly but randomly while playing? at a certain place? 1
IoriK Posted June 13, 2023 Author Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: skyrim constant ctd but when? on start up main screen? in LAL? early game? regularly but randomly while playing? at a certain place? it varies, sometimes it's when i load, other times it's a few seconds into gameplay, i'll try using both 8.0+ of zap and the link you've posted, which i can't thank you enough for even if they may not work.
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 36 minutes ago, IoriK said: Modular Clothing System and devious devices won't play well together did you get far enough into the game to see the conflicts?
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, IoriK said: it varies, sometimes it's when i load, other times it's a few seconds into gameplay, i'll try using both 8.0+ of zap and the link you've posted, which i can't thank you enough for even if they may not work. if you use you need to remove 38 minutes ago, IoriK said: SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) The PAHE series is a bit complicated to install, because all parts need to be compatible to each other. 47 minutes ago, IoriK said: DiaryOfMine.esp I'm not sure if you installed the pahe series correct or if you use all the newest versions. For example I don't see Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp, which shows up if you choose DD compatibility during installation of PAHE (installer check box) Edited June 13, 2023 by donttouchmethere
IoriK Posted June 13, 2023 Author Posted June 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: and devious devices won't play well together did you get far enough into the game to see the conflicts? not from what i can tell but thanks for informing me about it
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, IoriK said: i'll try using both 8.0+ no need to try, zap 8+ works out of the box. Edited June 13, 2023 by donttouchmethere
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 I don't see PAH home sweet home, I hope you didn't choose a patch for it during installation of AYGAS
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 about memory and stability you might something here, like using bethini for basic game configuration just remember you are using an ENB, means you can ignore the ENBoost part of the blog.
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 52 minutes ago, IoriK said: FNIS.esp a FNIS output would be interesting (after you updated to ZAP8+) to see if there are any clues hidden. Just copy paste the text from the generator
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) Of course I can't tell from here why exactly you get CTD. That's why I just look for things that hurt my modding feelings, at least on first glance. Kind of an exclusion procedure. Edited June 13, 2023 by donttouchmethere
Miauzi Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 O.M.G. 5 years ago it would probably have looked the same to me. Install everything and then press START ... and wonder why nothing works - i.e. CdT. --- How about ... first flatten everything via atomic option and start all over again ... and do it STEPWISE! First install the vanilla game and test without everything if it runs at all and then work your way forward step by step ... Install and test This is the only way to find out ... which mod was possibly faulty or incomplete. Yes - that takes time ... possibly a lot of time ... but it also leaves room for a LEARNING CURVE (because until now I have the impression that the terad-creator does not know what he is doing ... and yes - I used to be like that ... once ... 5 years ago) --- Exclusion procedure ... is mostly a matter of luck with sooo many mods 1
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Miauzi said: Exclusion procedure ... is mostly a matter of luck with sooo many mods I agree, but what else can ya do? 7 minutes ago, Miauzi said: How about ... first flatten everything via atomic option and start all over again ... and do it STEPWISE! That would work best. I remember I was way too horny to do anything that controlled during the first modding experiments. ? Edited June 13, 2023 by donttouchmethere 1
Miauzi Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 Vor 3 Minuten sagte donttouchmethere: Ich stimme zu, aber was kann man sonst noch tun? Das würde am besten funktionieren. Ich erinnere mich, dass ich bei den ersten Modding-Experimenten viel zu geil war, um irgendetwas zu tun, was kontrolliert. ? I have gone through the list ... at my current speed with installing and testing -> approx. 1 week with 6-8 hours of effort every day. with some mods you have to get out of the LAL initial cell and play certain things. I even looked for a page on the net where the names of the individual "room cells" of Skyrim were listed ... for the "fast travel" with the commando command "coc and after each major mod group ... recreate a new character from scratch ... because even the first save state after leaving the race menu can already contain "errors".
donttouchmethere Posted June 13, 2023 Posted June 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, Miauzi said: I have gone through the list ... at my current speed with installing and testing -> approx. 1 week with 6-8 hours of effort every day. with some mods you have to get out of the LAL initial cell and play certain things. I even looked for a page on the net where the names of the individual "room cells" of Skyrim were listed ... for the "fast travel" with the commando command "coc and after each major mod group ... recreate a new character from scratch ... because even the first save state after leaving the race menu can already contain "errors". I do it all in reverse. I drop a bunch of mods I don't know yet into the game and if something doesn't work I build back until the left overs are stable. Usually you can guess from the mod page how bad it can get. For example: no install instructions, no pointers at possible conflicts, no explanation about the included files and above all: needs a separate patch for nearly everything, mod zips with files all over the place, old patches that do more harm than fix anything and so on. My tactic can easily create confirmation bias if the base setup isn't stable and the "basic mods" aren't well known. If the basic mods (that's 450 mods for me) are well known and usual clusterfucks are cured via MCM settings, you can drop lots of stuff on top and quickly see who is a bad mod. From my experience if you leave the LO sequence intact, work with placeholders and leave installed esm alone and add new mods as replacers or at the end of the LO you can test new mods on an active game. Mostly it's bigger frameworks you can't just drop into an active game and hope for the best (DD for example.). The most sensitive mods are LL mods, means those need to be added first and work. Quest mods and the like can easy added/removed as do standalone equipment mods. Gets ugly if you remove mods that effected many NPC or work with scripts that get saved and would need to be stopped first before uninstalling anything.
mircislav Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 8 hours ago, IoriK said: nearly every patch under the sun I have Loverslab oriented LE and without crashes on Windows 7. For your reference: Fixes... Plugins in data folder
IoriK Posted June 15, 2023 Author Posted June 15, 2023 so after a fresh install and now the game runs, well i have no idea what's caused this, as this was both a fresh install and there's no mods that affect textures, and steam seems to think there's no files missing
Miauzi Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, IoriK said: so after a fresh install and now the game runs, well i have no idea what's caused this, as this was both a fresh install and there's no mods that affect textures, and steam seems to think there's no files missing Looks like missing textures ... that's why the "blue" colour how this happens? After the installation you should start Skyrim once in the "original" way - without SKSE the point is that the game engine has to set up paths for itself ... so also where it finds things like textures then it is started "normally" via SKSE. This intermediate step is also necessary if you have installed Bodyslide ... the program with which you adjust the meshes for clothing and armour or create them at all. 1
donttouchmethere Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, IoriK said: there's no mods that affect textures True, they are all missing =D What mod manager are you using again? Did you ever install something manually? Did you check if the Skyrim folder was clean after de-installing Skyrim? Did you install an ENB with requirements that are now missing? 28 minutes ago, IoriK said: there's no mods that I only believe that if I see a modlist! You installed Racemenu, I wonder what else. Do you have a mod with an active plugin but no files attached (or a pure mesh replacer that needs textures). Did you leave all mods/plugins active while reinstalling Skyrim? ? Edited June 15, 2023 by donttouchmethere 1
IoriK Posted June 15, 2023 Author Posted June 15, 2023 2 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: True, they are all missing =D What mod manager are you using again? Did you ever install something manually? Did you check if the Skyrim folder was clean after de-installing Skyrim? Did you install an ENB with requirements that are now missing? I only believe that if I see a modlist! You installed Racemenu, I wonder what else. Do you have a mod with an active plugin but no files attached (or a pure mesh replacer that needs textures). Did you leave all mods/plugins active while reinstalling Skyrim? ? i have brain rot Mo2 decided that my skyrim was skyrim SE
donttouchmethere Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, IoriK said: i have brain rot Mo2 decided that my skyrim was skyrim SE On the bright side: You found the error! Also interesting to see what happens if MO2 thinks you're playing SE o.o
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