What can possibly break my armor on every 1st hit?

[Guest Jezzy]

Yeah so, I have a nicely working Oblivion installation with Lover PK and stuff. I use BU Framework with NudeShy and vanilla replacers. It work great! However, as soon anything hit my character, her armor drop on the floor, she falls on her bumm and get raped. I mean even a tiny mudcrab will own her on 1 single shot lol

 

Here is my LO. It might be a bit missy but it seem to be working just fine. I used boss and hot fix the LO with TES4Edit reports...

 

 

LoversCreature.esm
Oblivion.esm
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
TamagoClub.esm
x117race.esm
Chanpon.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
ElzMoreVoice.esp
kuerteeAutoFirstThirdPersonView.esp
Living Economy.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Knights.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
RMDailyIncomeV2.esp
Lovers with PK.esp
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
Lovers with PK Extender.esp
LoversAdultYield.esp
LoversRhythmMethod.esp
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
LoversRaperS.esp
LoversPayBandit.esp
LoversContraception.esp
LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp
LoversBackup2.esp
LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
LoversRapeSlave.esp
LoversMagic.esp
Basic Personal Hygiene.esp
OOO-Level_Slow.esp
Specialanims.esp
zzEstrus.esp
DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
x117race.esp
x117Race ENG Race.esp
Lop-ears Elf.esp
Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp
AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp
Alternate Start Revamped.esp
PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.69.esp
BreakArmor.esp
LoversMB2.esp
LoversJoburg.esp
OldCrowInn.esp
RealSleepExtended.esp
Real Hunger, Cobl.esp
FF_Real_Thirst.esp
FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Better Cities .esp
Nudeshy Undergarments.esp
Nudeshy X.esp
nudeshyceadb.esp
nudeshynudejail.esp
nudeshynudejailClassic.esp
HUD Status Bars.esp
Replacer - Steel (mergeable).esp
Replacer - Blackwood (mergeable).esp
Replacer - Dwarven (mergeable).esp
Elz - Realistic Gravity.esp
Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversCreature.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
zBUArmors.esp

 

 

What can possibily do that ? Any idea? 

 

Any help would be much appreciated

 

PS. i read and tried to adjust the nudeshy ini files, i also use the zBuArmors.esp for OOO.

PS2. yeah, i have OOO installed too ^.^

 

 

[fejeena]

I hope that is an artwork and not your Load order. How can your game start with LoversCreature.esm above Oblivion.esm ?

Why is LoversCreature.esp under LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

First use BOSS then sort your Lovers Mod manually exactly like in this Load order http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/

 

BOSS http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/20516/

 

Edit: is your armor  destroyed (armor value 0) or can everyone easy rape your character? Lovers RaperS - WappyOne's Edition use armor drop during rape.

[Guest Jezzy]

Yeah thats indeed not my LO. I ran boss, it fucked my lo so i had to fix it with wrye and tes4edit.

 

That stange listing is so weird i just cannot explain how i manage to get that result lol. However its not how it look in wrye bash or omm :/

[fejeena]

Your Load order really shocked me! I'm almost 50. Almost get a heart attack.

[gregathit]

Without seeing your actual load order we can't begin to help you.

[Guest Jezzy]

Yeah thanks for the answers im at work atm... ill be back later with my actual LO. Sorry for the weirdness of my op

[Guest Jezzy]

Back from my night shift! yaay!

 

Here my fixed LO. Hopefully its good now

 

the game load fine, no error etc. however as said in my OT, i still got my ass served on first hit from anything...

 

 

Oblivion.esm
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
x117race.esm
Chanpon.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
TamagoClub.esm
HiyokoClub.esm
LoversCreature.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Better Cities .esp
ElzMoreVoice.esp
kuerteeAutoFirstThirdPersonView.esp
Goranga restaurant job.esp
Living Economy.esp
FF_Real_Thirst.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
Growlfs Animated Hair.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
Ash's Odd Jobs.esp
OldCrowInn.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Knights.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
HUD Status Bars.esp
RMDailyIncomeV2.esp
MaternityClothes.esp
Nudeshy X.esp
HiyokoGenerator.esp
LoversAphrodisia.esp
LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp
Lovers with PK.esp
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
Lovers with PK Extender.esp
LoversRhythmMethod.esp
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
LoversRaperS.esp
LoversJoburg.esp
LoversPayBandit.esp
LoversContraception.esp
LoversCreature.esp
LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
LoversRapeStruggle.esp
LoversRapeSlave.esp
LoversAdultYield.esp
LoversMagic.esp
LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp
LoversBackup2.esp
Basic Personal Hygiene.esp
RealSleepExtended.esp
OOO-Level_Slow.esp
Specialanims.esp
zzEstrus.esp
DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
x117race.esp
x117Race ENG Race.esp
Lop-ears Elf.esp
Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp
AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp
Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Alternate Start Revamped.esp
Real Hunger, Cobl.esp
PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.69.esp
BreakArmor.esp
Nudeshy Undergarments.esp
nudeshyceadb.esp
nudeshynudejail.esp
nudeshynudejailClassic.esp
Replacer - Steel (mergeable).esp
Replacer - Blackwood (mergeable).esp
Replacer - Dwarven (mergeable).esp
Elz - Realistic Gravity.esp
zBUArmors.esp
LoversMB2.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

[gregathit]

Your lovers files aren't really in the optimal order.  I recommend you switch them around to match the load order in the spoiler of the pinned thread at the top of this section.

 

You also have some duplicates:

LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp   <---you escape rapes on your own

LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp   <----only a companion can save you during rapes

Pick only one of the above.

 

Depending on what version of lovers you are running this plugin may no longer work correctly:

LoversRapeStruggle.esp  

It is not confirmed that it is compatible with rev96

 

Check the readme for nude shy to see if it is ok to run both of these or if you were supposed to pick one:

nudeshynudejail.esp

nudeshynudejailClassic.esp

 

General note:  

All armor plugins should be MUCH higher in your load order.  Just under MaternityClothes.esp should be better.  This minimizes the chance of dirty edits.

I also recommend all nudeshy plugins be moved up above lovers plugins.  Put them all just under Nudeshy X.esp

 

I see you have "part" of Tamago club installed........where is the esp file for it?  The esm is not enough for things to work correctly unless something has changed recently.

 

 

[Guest Jezzy]

@Gregathit, first of all, thanks for the support

 

The tomago club installed came from this page, i think http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6799-lovers-plugin-index-with-direct-links/

[gregathit]

@Gregathit, first of all, thanks for the support

 

The tomago club installed came from this page, i think http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6799-lovers-plugin-index-with-direct-links/

 

 

No problem.

 

That is listed as a "patch".  Did you first install the 1.04 version that it links to at the top of the OP and "then" install the patch?

[JSmith20142]

There is no esp for TamagoClub 1.12. I don't know about 1.15, don't use it.

 

I think the OP is confused between his armour falling off because it's broken, and RaperS dropping his armour because his character is being raped.

 

[gregathit]

There is no esp for TamagoClub 1.12. I don't know about 1.15, don't use it.

Right. Except that in my understanding v1.12 is a patch that is supposed to be installed over top of v1.04 (this is what the OP for v1.12 states), which does contain a Tamagoclub.esp file. At least that is the way it was back when I used it. Admittedly it has been awhile since I used Tamago club so that "might" have changed.

 

 

 

I think the OP is confused between his armour falling off because it's broken, and RaperS dropping his armour because his character is being raped.

Could very well be. Couple that with the fact that he is running Rape Struggle, in which the rapist can rip off your clothes, it may be a case of too many chef's in the kitchen.

 

NOTE:  rev96v4 contains the fixed scripting for BU armors (doesn't need the breakundies.esm anymore), so those armors will be damaged by sex as long as you enable the esp files for the BU armors.

[JSmith20142]

I bow to your superior knowledge of ... well everything Lovers related   I can tell you though that I started with TC 1.12, never had any earlier version and never has an esp, and it works very well - so well that I see no reason to 'upgrade' to 1.15. I'm none too sure what use an esp would be in this case, given that everything required is in the esm.

 

 

[Guest Jezzy]

There is no esp for TamagoClub 1.12. I don't know about 1.15, don't use it.

 

I think the OP is confused between his armour falling off because it's broken, and RaperS dropping his armour because his character is being raped.

 

This, my settings was set on chaos forgot about that 

 

Thanks

 

As for Tomago, is there a installation guide somewhere I could read?

 

Thanks again!

[gregathit]

LOL!  

 

I make zero claims to know everything!  Matter of fact, I am willing to bet many here have much more knowledge of parts that I suck at.  Scripting is just one of those.

 

Regarding Tamago, it was never a real interest for me, as I never play with a female PC.  The novelty of running around as a male PC and knocking up dozens of chicks was "fun", but not worth keeping around in my permanent load order.

 

If you can make things work without the esp and there are no negative side effects, then we may need to revise the OP for v1.12 to remove any confusion.  Last time I ran version 1.12, I did install it overtop of 1.04 and it worked for me, so I didn't question anything.  

 

Did you just install v1.12 having no prior version of Tamago club installed?  If so, then v1.04 may no longer be needed.

 

 

[JSmith20142]

I can confirm that TC v 1.12 works fine without any prior version being present. I have done several clean installs of Oblivion using only the 1.12 archive - TC consisting only of the .ini and the .esm. I am unsure whether 1.15 will work in the absence of a 1.12 installation.

 

From the readme in my copy of the 1.12 archive

TamagoClub v1.12**What is this?TamagoClub is a system meant to simulate the activity (menstruation cycle, fertilization, conception, pregnancy) of an actor's womb, ova, sperm, etc.To blend in with the game's main UI its user interface centers on using the inventory window.It is designed as a framework to allow external mods to easily link into it or extend its functionality.**No child will be born with this mod alone!It is not possible to give birth with this mod alone.If you want childbirth, you will need to use it in combination with a TamagoClub compatible birth mod like HiyokoClub.**RequirementsOBSE v0020 or laterIn order to link it with Lovers you will need LoversTamagoClub.Lovers is not really required for the TamagoClub system to work, but it will be much less interesting without it.(Recommended Environment)In addition to Lovers and LoversTamagoClub, introducing mods that will cause spontaneous sex between NPCs withoutthe player's intervention such as LoversJoburg will greatly enhance your TamagoClub experience.I also recommend the use of LoversEncounter which makes reproductive action taking place where the player is not looking.**How to installPut the ESM file into the Data folder and activate it.The INI file goes into the Data/Ini folder.Without the INI file all configuration values set via the console will still be preserved in the save file.

No mention of needing 1.04 there, either.

 

 

 

[gregathit]

Wait, isn't the esp needed to link it to lovers with PK?  That is what the readme is saying right?

 

 

**Requirements
OBSE v0020 or later
In order to link it with Lovers you will need LoversTamagoClub.
Lovers is not really required for the TamagoClub system to work, but it will be much less interesting without it.

 

The OP for v1.12 also says this.

 

I'd have to peak into the scripts of the esp to see what it actually does link into lovers.

 

I just want to make sure before I amend the OP so we don't mislead folks.

 

 

[JSmith20142]

TC doesn't link into lovers; it is completely standalone. As we discussed a while ago, it doesn't even need oblivion.esm. It does not know Lovers exists.

 

LTC is the link between TC and lovers; it has TC as a master and so can mix the TC ingredients (Sperm, ova) together when Lovers invokes the LTC callback function.. Without it, TC will go through endless menstrual cycles quite happily and to no purpose.

 

[gregathit]

TC doesn't link into lovers; it is completely standalone. As we discussed a while ago, it doesn't even need oblivion.esm. It does not know Lovers exists.

 

LTC is the link between TC and lovers; it has TC as a master and so can mix the TC ingredients (Sperm, ova) together when Lovers invokes the LTC callback function.. Without it, TC will go through endless menstrual cycles quite happily and to no purpose.

 

 

Ok, I think we are saying the exact same thing, and just not knowing it.  The file that I am referring to is named:

 

LoversTamagoClub.esp

 

That file is what ties lovers to tamago club and that file is what is missing from v1.12's main download (which is why the v1.12 is labeled as a patch and not a full install).  

 

Are we on the same page or am I still missing the boat?

 

I realize you have the esp file patch at the very bottom of that OP but it isn't labeled as "required"....even though it probably should be.

 

If you look at Jezzy's load order (post 7), they do not have LoversTamagoClub.esp - which could explain them being unable to get knocked up.....right?

 

Not meaning to hi-jack this thread but I think it is important that we figure this out so I can update the Tamago Club v1.12 OP to clear things up for folks if it currently is incorrect.

[JSmith20142]

Yeah, TamagoClub and LoversTamagoClub are seperate, but sorta dependent. TamagoClub (TC) will run through menstrual cycles, but _no pregnancies are possible_ unless LoversTamagoClub (LTC) is installed.

 

LTC does have TC as a dependency, and has no other function than to add TC sperm to the recipient once LPK tells it that sex has happened. Note : this involves more than just putting sperm in inventory; the necessary script updates must be made as well.

 

I got LTC as a completely seperate download from this site somewhere, not as part of TC, at least, I think so - it was a while ago. I agree that there is no point in having whatever version of TC without loverstamagoclub.esp. TamagoClub itself has and needs no esp.

 

I should also say that I found the whole TC/LTC thing very confusing at first.

 

LTC did have some errors which I provided a correction for - not really a patch as it actually replaced LTC in its entirety. The original LTC does work, but I found female contraceptives not working, and females getting knocked up from giving BJs inconvenient and immersion-breaking (although I was amused that the code that was supposed to enable female contraceptives worked fine when a male was the recipient).

 

[gregathit]

Ok, I think I have it straight now.  I will update the Tamago Club v1.12 OP and if you don't mind I will bundle your fixed LTC esp file into the main download.  I'll also clean the OP up and try to make things more clear based on what we have discussed in this thread.

 

Thanks for the help.  

[JSmith20142]

I don't mind, and you're welcome.

 

I hope I didn't come across as too pedantic about TC not having an esp - as I see it, an esp has the same name as the esm, and provides an interface to the functions in the esm and perhaps adds some more. Neither of these is true of loverstamagoclub.esp, so it's a bit of a strange beast. Having said that, it would work just as well if it were named tamagoclub.esp, and this conversation would never have happened. Ah well.

 

I do wonder why they didn't call loverstamagoclub.esp tamagoclub.esp. My guess is that they were simply written by different modders, and modding etiquette made the LTC.esp author use a different name.

 

[gregathit]

I don't mind, and you're welcome.

 

I hope I didn't come across as too pedantic about TC not having an esp - as I see it, an esp has the same name as the esm, and provides an interface to the functions in the esm and perhaps adds some more. Neither of these is true of loverstamagoclub.esp, so it's a bit of a strange beast. Having said that, it would work just as well if it were named tamagoclub.esp, and this conversation would never have happened. Ah well.

 

 

Honestly, I am just glad we were referring to the same thing, even though we didn't realize it at first.  

 

It has been awhile since I messed with Tamago Club and it is easy to forget some of its nuances.  Bottom line, I have it straight now and can work on cleaning things up for others, so this same question isn't asked repeatedly. 

 

Thanks again.