deathmorph Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 Hey guys, the weapons - shotguns, hunting rifles, etc. - on the bodies look broken. I've noticed the same thing with live super mutants, you can see the breech floating next to the weapon. Has anyone seen this before and therefore know which mod could be responsible for it? I deactivated some suspects, unfortunately without result. Spoiler Spoiler
steelpanther24 Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 I am having the same issue. I haven't begun to troubleshoot it, though I have reinstalled all my weapon mods. I think that AKWCR is the culprit as I have read that it is "buggy". Have you tried removing that mod? Also can you post your mod list? Finally maybe someone else will have solved this issue, and research will help us find the answer. Based on a quick search, seems others have this issue, but no easy solution was presented.
Slorm Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 I use AKWCR and have never seen this problem. I don't use any weapon packs so it could possibly be a combination effect but I doubt that it's AKWCR by itself
steelpanther24 Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, Slorm said: I use AKWCR and have never seen this problem. I don't use any weapon packs so it could possibly be a combination effect but I doubt that it's AKWCR by itself Well...shit..... FO4edit confirms this on the surface, as AKWCR loses in all cases to Modern Weapon replacements. The only error that jumps out at me is wrt Assault weapons and Deadpools Service Rifle mod. So, it is something else. I thought maybe the craftable ammo workshops, but again, no conflict. BTW, I do not know how to get my plugin load order into a text from Vortex.
slight_of_mind Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 Are you both using a mod that prevents weapons from dropping from dead NPCs? That will cause that.
deathmorph Posted January 29, 2023 Author Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, slight_of_mind said: Are you both using a mod that prevents weapons from dropping from dead NPCs? That will cause that. Not conscious. I don't think it's unconscious either, since it often happens that the weapons are next to the bodies. And then there are no problems. Unfortunately I can not say exactly since when the problem occurs. It's definitely not the first run. I just forgot to post it earlier. I would also like to post a mod list, but I also use Vortex and haven't discovered a function for an overview there yet. Or is there a plugin for that? PS: Although, come to think of it, it's really only synts that drop their guns. I've seen it happen to gunners, they hold their guns tight. But what mod that could be - only a list really helps. If Vortex doesn't display it, then I'll have to improvise. My character has just been killed twice. Once she dropped the guns, it looked normal. And once she held it tight, the bolt hung next to the gun again. Edited January 29, 2023 by deathmorph
deathmorph Posted January 30, 2023 Author Posted January 30, 2023 Here you can see it particularly clearly. A carbine, a gunner. And again he holds this one. I think, slight_of_mind, you might be right. If I enter something with weapon or gun as a search term, I get the following overview: I have read the comments of these mods, whether something is known there, unfortunately negative. I am at a loss. oh man, that looks so shitty...
deathmorph Posted January 30, 2023 Author Posted January 30, 2023 Cool thing. I just ran a report for a mod and voila, it lists the entire load order. if someone can help now, it's moving forward Spoiler unofficial fallout 4 patch.esp armorkeywords.esm xdi.esm hudframework.esm workshopframework.esm truestormsfo4.esm huntingrifleset4k.esl fpeaiocreatureaddon.esl bememoth separated cart.esl aaf.esm aafthemes.esl bodytalk3-raidernormalsfix.esl bettercoastalwaves.esl torturedevices.esm behslavemarket.esm devious devices.esm autounequippipboy.esm canarysavefilemonitor.esl homemaker.esm hipolyfacescompanionplugin.esl invb_overlayframework.esp recruitsierra.esl mtm-nukatowneastarchwayfix.esl malebodies.esm nukaproject.esl rse_ii_resources.esm rrpw.esl recruitresettlers.esl washoutthatcum.esl playercomments.esp lunarfalloutoverhaul.esp lunar-whenfreedomcalls.esp realisticjumping.esp lat expansion announcements.esp reverb and ambiance overhaul.esp lat expansion creatures.esp dd_hider_addon.esp truestormsfo4-farharborextrarads.esp cumnwealth.esp cumnwealth_mutant.esp zaz particles.esp savagecabbage_animations.esp jump grunt.esp elzee breathe.esp motoko hair.esp dx commonwealth shorts.esp dx vault girl shorts.esp aaf_spectators.esp deathclaw_nude.esp erectionfix_silverperv.esp aaf_violate.esp aaf_violate_dlc_patch.esp vadermania[aaf_anims].esp aaf_violate_feral_animations.esp pd_lowerweapon.esp fp_familyplanningenhanced.esp fp_familyplanningenhanced_dlc_doctors_addon.esp boston natural surroundings.esp eamr.esp workshoprearranged.esp nukaworldplus.esp randomvaluablesredux.esp armorsmith extended.esp clothingoverhaul.esp armorsmith combat helmet illumination 1.2.esp atomic lust.esp asa.esp backpacks of the commonwealth.esp combat_helmet_illumination 1.2.esp resethome.esp criticalhitsoutsideofvats.esp custom moans.esp better_notes.esp burst impact blast fx.esp crx.esp slavetattoos.esp kshairdos.esp chainbikini.esp dd_leganimoverride.esp dd_bench_unlock.esp kziitdanimationposes.esp sleeplessnights.esp novats.esp complex vendors.esp dakscombatrifle.esp braveanims.esp hhfootsteps.esp devious devices slave heels pack.esp fpedogaddon.esp fpesupermutantaddon.esp humanresources.esp lfo hardcore patch.esp meleefinishersrebalance.esp 3dnpc_fo4.esp clarity.esp lost audio tweaks.esp lbpac.esp wasteland illumination.esp pulowski shelter save point balanced.esp fr4nssonslighttweaks.esp vivid weathers - 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high heels sound.esp rse_ii_csa.esp makeyourownsynths.esp llamacompanionheatherv2.esp ufo4pgraygardenworkshopborderpatch.esp fo4 npcs travel.esp atomicradio.esp rxl_bp70_animations.esp crossbow.esp crossbow craftable awkcr.esp akawaterworld.esp cross_breakactionlaser.esp 3dnpc_fo4settler facegen.esp 3dnpc_fo4 facegen.esp casio_w59.esp fo4hhs_aaf.esp spacefiddle_follower-stealth-distance-fixes.esp fo4_leito_voicefix.esp get dirty extra effects v1a.esp gunner_operator.esp odo_reqs_handmadebarbarrels.esp glowing animals emit light.esp kat's new hairstyles1.4.esp immersiveanimationframework.esp omega - iaf an2 patch.esp iaf - heatherv2 patch.esp nukaworldrifleclassicstock.esp lunarfalloutplus.esp weathersynergy-vividpriority-n-es.esp truestormsfo4-earliersunsets.esp truestormsfo4-glowingseaextrarads.esp jnfa.esp lfo glowinganimalsemitlight patch.esp lfo no legendary effects.esp aa hotc - standalone - se.esp lunarfalloutplus - disablecombatboundaries.esp meleebangs.esp lunarfalloutplus - logicalweapondismemberment.esp huntingriflesounds.esp immersiveloversembraceremastered.esp lunar - talesfromthecommonwealth.esp nability - iaf tales from the commonwealth patch.esp omega - iaf mre patch.esp immersive hud.esp mswl_llamacompanionheather_patch.esp pacify03.esp iaf - far harbor & nuka world.esp lunar - iaf.esp lfo and lbpac - armorer perk patch.esp looksmenu.esp lena_radmorphing.esp fs_sunglassesjulbovermont.esp crossbow awkcr patch.esp leveractionretexture.esp lunar - everybodiesbestfriend.esp lunar-crossbreakactionlaser-lasershotgundistribution.esp movtspeedtweak - all.esp humanresources_hotc_se_compatibility.esp aksounds.esp lfo difficulty settings.esp lunarnpctravelpatch.esp kshairdos_oel.esp immersiveloversembracemagnolia.esp hhfootsteps_extended.esp mutated lust.esp nexus_pmc.esp dcc-bp-lol-navi.esp dcc-bp-lol.esp rrtv_nukacola_addiction.esp rrtv_nukacola_addiction + nukaproject patch.esp publick occurrences expanded.esp nukaworldplus -convenient scrap.esp tommystickmag.esp peoplearestrangers.esp rainmaker_animations.esp lenarm_trigger_rads.esp raider pet.esp dd-reduced explosion force.esp mischairstyle.esp rustyfacefixredux.esp realhdface.esp sexed.esp project reality footsteps fo4.esp azarponytailhairstyles.esp lovingcait.esp aaf_badend_animations.esp craftable bad end furniture.esp ssex.esp prisoner shackles.esp skkcombatstalkers.esp smm_example_plugin.esp aaf_creaturepack02dlc.esp 3dscopes-replacer-crossbow.esp 3dscopes-replacer-servicerifle.esp 3dscopes-replacer.esp mg69.esp lunar - 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animated accessible backpack.esp lovingcurie_1.0.3b.esp dcre.esp lunar - ufo4.esp lunar-meleebangs.esp weathersynergy-nukaworld-fh-compact.esp vivid weathers - natural bright.esp vivid weathers - nuka world.esp enhancedlightsandfx.esp pip-boy flashlight.esp enhancedlightsandfx - automatron.esp elfx-previs.esp
deathmorph Posted January 31, 2023 Author Posted January 31, 2023 3 hours ago, slight_of_mind said: Check for a mod changing 0001A23C I don't quite understand, how do I do this?
slight_of_mind Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, deathmorph said: I don't quite understand, how do I do this? FO4edit.
deathmorph Posted January 31, 2023 Author Posted January 31, 2023 10 hours ago, slight_of_mind said: FO4edit. Oh well, I guess I have to go through that.
rubber_duck Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 I use AWKCR and I have never seen this issue. However, are you running No weapon drop on death? I might be wrong here, but this one smells like it could be responsible for your issue. If you're running it, disable it and check if the issue still persists.
deathmorph Posted January 31, 2023 Author Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Thanks for the tip, but I don't have this mod installed. I'm using the Lunar Collection, removed a few mods from it (mainly optics), added a few mods (weapon skins, weather, stealth, jump height). For the optics I use the "big" Luxor Overhaul, plus a few weapon skins. However, I had removed this as a test, it wasn't the cause. Could it be the unofficial FO patch? It's mentioned a few times in the comments. Edited January 31, 2023 by deathmorph
deathmorph Posted February 11, 2023 Author Posted February 11, 2023 (edited) On 1/29/2023 at 6:35 PM, slight_of_mind said: Are you both using a mod that prevents weapons from dropping from dead NPCs? That will cause that. After a long search I found the cause. It is the mod Lunar Fallout Plus - Whiskey's Tweaks. The author has been informed and asked for a fix. Special thanks to slight_of_mind, without your hint about the NPC weapons I wouldn't have found the cause. Workarround: Open LunarFalloutPlus.esp with FO4Edit, set the iDeathDropWeaponChance value from 0 to 100. That should fix the problem for now. Edited February 12, 2023 by deathmorph
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