GelidIce Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 Genuinely unsure what's going on right now. Here's my load order, hopefully I can fix this. So I do a sexual animation, and then I am stuck in 3rd person, cannot move but can attack and the like. Also, creature animations usually end up with me and the creature standing there, and they also can still attack. Here is my load order. Oblivion.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversCreature.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp Lilmothiit Races.esp Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp Weapon Improvement Project.esp Actually Valuable Valuables.esp Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp 1FDSWORDS.esp BetterFineSteelWeapons.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Think to Yourself.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Harvest [Flora].esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp mythsandlegends.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp MidasSpells.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp FormID Finder4.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversCreatureCompanion.esp LoversDeathDenied.esp LoversEncounter.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversRaperS.esp more rewarding loot list.esp xLCR.esp kuerteeCleanUp.esp
fejeena Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) Sort your Mods ! Delete xLCR.esp it is a test esp Last Mod in load order are LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp There can't be a Lovers Mod below these ! And best no other mod either. Load order: see my yellow Link below, in my signature Edited August 18, 2022 by fejeena
LongDukDong Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, GelidIce said: LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp MidasSpells.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp FormID Finder4.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversCreatureCompanion.esp LoversDeathDenied.esp LoversEncounter.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversRaperS.esp more rewarding loot list.esp xLCR.esp kuerteeCleanUp.esp Definitely wrong order here. The LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp and LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp are always the last of the Lovers Mods to apply. Oh, and as been stated in so many threads and the LoversCreatures .chm (help) file, xLCR is only for debugging... kill it. I keep a copy of the recommended MOD ORDER file in my Oblivion folder... so... here goes insofar as LOVERS mods... LoversEncounter.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversCreatureCompanion.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp LoversDeathDenied.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Now... non lovers mods.... You got the start mostly fine... I will point out some required zones though. By that, I mean where placement is recommended for mods (DLCs) (ITEMS - incl weapons/clothing/armor like your loot list or weapons) (OVERHAULS - DEFINTELY Kvatch Rebuilt. It's in the 2014 list) (LANDSCAPES --- like your flora) (TAMAGO) (LOVERS -as shown above) (IDLE ANIMS) (RACES - You got the Lilmothiit Race too? I BSAed the meshes/textures n made it easier to install/remove ) (COMPANIONS) then... LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp ... at the end of the list. As towards the list I mentioned, you can find it by clicking the YELLOW link in my signature. The recommended mod order list may be old and will certainly not have every mod, but it is quite concise and is a roadmap towards installation. As towards the blinking issue, I found it may be caused by skipping around and not following full installation procedures. I say this with personal experience with the blinking years before. For the instructions, click my green LAPF instructions. Nexus Mod links in the original instructions have been corrected since Nexus's 2015 forum redesign. Edited August 18, 2022 by LongDukDong
GelidIce Posted August 18, 2022 Author Posted August 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, fejeena said: Sort your Mods ! Delete xLCR.esp it is a test esp Last Mod in load order are LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp There can't be a Lovers Mod below these ! And best no other mod either. Load order: see my yellow Link below, in my signature Thank you very much my man. I was very confused, because until recently it worked fine
GelidIce Posted August 18, 2022 Author Posted August 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, LongDukDong said: Definitely wrong order here. The LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp and LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp are always the last of the Lovers Mods to apply. Oh, and as been stated in so many threads and the LoversCreatures .chm (help) file, xLCR is only for debugging... kill it. I keep a copy of the recommended MOD ORDER file in my Oblivion folder... so... here goes insofar as LOVERS mods... LoversEncounter.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversCreatureCompanion.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp LoversDeathDenied.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Now... non lovers mods.... You got the start mostly fine... I will point out some required zones though. By that, I mean where placement is recommended for mods (DLCs) (ITEMS - incl weapons/clothing/armor like your loot list or weapons) (OVERHAULS - DEFINTELY Kvatch Rebuilt. It's in the 2014 list) (LANDSCAPES --- like your flora) (TAMAGO) (LOVERS -as shown above) (IDLE ANIMS) (RACES - You got the Lilmothiit Race too? I BSAed the meshes/textures n made it easier to install/remove ) (COMPANIONS) then... LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp ... at the end of the list. As towards the list I mentioned, you can find it by clicking the YELLOW link in my signature. The recommended mod order list may be old and will certainly not have every mod, but it is quite concise and is a roadmap towards installation. As towards the blinking issue, I found it may be caused by skipping around and not following full installation procedures. I say this with personal experience with the blinking years before. For the instructions, click my green LAPF instructions. Nexus Mod links in the original instructions have been corrected since Nexus's 2015 forum redesign. Thank you much for that information my guy!
GelidIce Posted August 18, 2022 Author Posted August 18, 2022 26 minutes ago, LongDukDong said: Definitely wrong order here. The LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp and LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp are always the last of the Lovers Mods to apply. Oh, and as been stated in so many threads and the LoversCreatures .chm (help) file, xLCR is only for debugging... kill it. I keep a copy of the recommended MOD ORDER file in my Oblivion folder... so... here goes insofar as LOVERS mods... LoversEncounter.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversCreatureCompanion.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp LoversDeathDenied.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Now... non lovers mods.... You got the start mostly fine... I will point out some required zones though. By that, I mean where placement is recommended for mods (DLCs) (ITEMS - incl weapons/clothing/armor like your loot list or weapons) (OVERHAULS - DEFINTELY Kvatch Rebuilt. It's in the 2014 list) (LANDSCAPES --- like your flora) (TAMAGO) (LOVERS -as shown above) (IDLE ANIMS) (RACES - You got the Lilmothiit Race too? I BSAed the meshes/textures n made it easier to install/remove ) (COMPANIONS) then... LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp ... at the end of the list. As towards the list I mentioned, you can find it by clicking the YELLOW link in my signature. The recommended mod order list may be old and will certainly not have every mod, but it is quite concise and is a roadmap towards installation. As towards the blinking issue, I found it may be caused by skipping around and not following full installation procedures. I say this with personal experience with the blinking years before. For the instructions, click my green LAPF instructions. Nexus Mod links in the original instructions have been corrected since Nexus's 2015 forum redesign. A question- If a creature doesn't do an animation, is there a specific mod I'm missing? Or is it just the whole "Creature animations for female animals weren't really a thing" being dumb?
LongDukDong Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) Regarding the submissive poses, I assume? Not all creatures have submissive poses. Insofar as it being different between a female or male creature, there is no difference. A female minotaur and male minotaur share the same skeleton.nif, so both would have the same collection of animations. Likewise, a female Spider Daedra and male Spider Daedra too share the same animatics. However, there are no submissive poses for the Spider Daedra 'race' at all. Can't bang her... she bangs you. OR... and here's an 'OR' alright. LoversCreatures contains a more extensive LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp and LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp than Lovers with PK itself. This defining how to run the actual motion_kf files that force the models to do the animations. And between LAPF's and LC25's, there are a HELLA lot more animations defined. If you didn't overwrite LAPF's versions with these, you won't have the animations played out. Don't worry about uninstallation of LC25. The revised AnimsPriority and AnimsObjectsPriority files work fine without LC25. Remember, LC25 contains multiple downloads, the Main, the Meshes, and the Textures... this not including patches for backwards compliance with older mods designed around 2.0 creatures. Click the Lovers Creatures 2.5 Documentation.chm file and look at the Creature Checklist for a list of what's what with models changed, animations, and what might be looked into or desired. IF you cannot see content, right-click the .chm file and select 'Properties'. An 'Unblock' button should appear above the OK/Cancel buttons. Edited August 18, 2022 by LongDukDong
GelidIce Posted August 18, 2022 Author Posted August 18, 2022 Alright before I get ready to go to work... Oblivion.esm Lovers with PK.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm RealisticLeveling.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp FormID Finder4.esp kuerteeCleanUp.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Weapon Improvement Project.esp DLCThievesDen.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp mythsandlegends.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp Harvest [Flora].esp HiyokoGenetics.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversHiyokoClub.esp LoversEncounter.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversJoburg.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversCreatureCompanion.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp LoversDeathDenied.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp more rewarding loot list.esp Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp MidasSpells.esp Think to Yourself.esp Lilmothiit Races.esp Actually Valuable Valuables.esp 1FDSWORDS.esp BetterFineSteelWeapons.esp Hopefully this fixes the issue.
fejeena Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 Have you read my yellow Link ? The example load order ? The explanation how to sort? sort everything below LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Leave nothing unsorted! 1FDSWORDS.esp and BetterFineSteelWeapons.esp This seems to be weapon mods, up to weapon, armor, clothes Mods. and so on . . . Sort your load order ! 1
LongDukDong Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 Seconded. Note that I did state... 4 hours ago, LongDukDong said: Definitely wrong order here. The LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp and LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp are always the last of the Lovers Mods to apply. And I gave you both the order of your Lovers Mods alone prior to this new version, a simplified index where to place things (ITEMS vs OVERHAULS vs LANDSCAPES) and stated that a more comprehensive Load Order to follow exists. And of that load order, the yellow link found in both fejeena's signature and my signature go to the same page. Incidentally... You need to put HiyokoGenetics and Generator 'after/below' the LoversTamagoClub/LoversHiyokoClub files. But.... But really...... LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp more rewarding loot list.esp Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp MidasSpells.esp WE DON'T BELONG HERE!!! Think to Yourself.esp Lilmothiit Races.esp Actually Valuable Valuables.esp 1FDSWORDS.esp BetterFineSteelWeapons.esp NONE of these in yellow should appear after LoversAnimObjectsPriority and (with the exception of Lilmothiit) need to be placed before even the Tamago Mods. Again for Lilmothiit, This is because it is a race mod, and race mods have a place higher up... but STILL above LoversMB2.esp. Basically, it gets squashed between it and Death Denied... whatever THAT mod does. PLEASE check the yellow link in our signature and sort the mods. If using a tool to auto-sort, forget it.
GelidIce Posted August 19, 2022 Author Posted August 19, 2022 16 hours ago, LongDukDong said: Seconded. Note that I did state... And I gave you both the order of your Lovers Mods alone prior to this new version, a simplified index where to place things (ITEMS vs OVERHAULS vs LANDSCAPES) and stated that a more comprehensive Load Order to follow exists. And of that load order, the yellow link found in both fejeena's signature and my signature go to the same page. Incidentally... You need to put HiyokoGenetics and Generator 'after/below' the LoversTamagoClub/LoversHiyokoClub files. But.... But really...... LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp more rewarding loot list.esp Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp MidasSpells.esp WE DON'T BELONG HERE!!! Think to Yourself.esp Lilmothiit Races.esp Actually Valuable Valuables.esp 1FDSWORDS.esp BetterFineSteelWeapons.esp NONE of these in yellow should appear after LoversAnimObjectsPriority and (with the exception of Lilmothiit) need to be placed before even the Tamago Mods. Again for Lilmothiit, This is because it is a race mod, and race mods have a place higher up... but STILL above LoversMB2.esp. Basically, it gets squashed between it and Death Denied... whatever THAT mod does. PLEASE check the yellow link in our signature and sort the mods. If using a tool to auto-sort, forget it. Yee. Sorry for that, I was as I said, trying to sort out this along with RL, so I was kind of quick skimming around, reading quick. Such is life when you are on call. BUT now that I see this I will get it fixed. I will say that things are indeed working now.
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