Neitiri Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 Hello, I have always wondered, why FO4 is getting less modding attention than Skyrim for example. Skyrim has more animation, content, more interesting mods... I'm not complaining or anything, just generally interested, is FO4 that bad or Skyrim is just better at modding?
almond93 Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) I am content with the pace of Fallout 4 mods. In fact I think that we have gotten a bunch of very high quality mods in such a short span of time recently. Here's some of the great mods that the fo4 modding scene has managed to put together Quest mods: Spoiler The upcoming Fallout London: Sim Settlements 2: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/47976 Point Lookout: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/60330 and my personal favourite: Companion Ivy I have also seen AAF Nuka Ride regarded very highly but I have never tried it myself. Clothing mods: Spoiler https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/61541 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/58962 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/50512 Lots and lots of very high quality Weapon mods: Spoiler https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/56969 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/61875 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/58521 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/50505 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/53998 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/53660 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62391 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62547 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/55447 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62347 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62400 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/45796 I could keep going on but I think I may have gone overboard already. And this thing the stuff of nightmares: Spoiler https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62255 The one thing Fo4 does lack in over Skyrim is a large variety of Adult animations though. That is sort of a sore point for me. The absence of all these animations is sort of tempting me to do it myself but I have no experience and I don't really know where to start. Anyway Everybody else is getting what they want. The tacticools are getting their tacticool clothes and weapon mods. The gun nuts are getting these nifty scrapguns made out of your mom's toaster + a can of turpentine. The coomers have been getting some really amazing clothing mods + there is an amazing tool in development to aid screen archers right now and it is fantastic. And the hardcore players are getting gameplay overhaul mods such as MAIM and knockout framework. And there's a bunch of other mods out there that anybody can pick up and put into their game. I think that the fallout 4 modding scene is doing just fine really. Skyrim's modscene is bigger yes but I think that it is poor form to look at Skyrim's plate and lament "Oh they have more than me!" and feel sad. I am happy with our modders and I am grateful for what we have. The modders are awesome and I think they have been doing a fantastic job. ? Much love and appreciation for their continued hard work. Edited August 16, 2022 by almond93 1
kamoewarrior Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 My only gripe is that AAF's reliability is so far from SexLab's. I can get it to work but its just often janky, some features lag so much, some straight up don't work, and some are buggy. I used to wonder why there are NSFW content creators that make short movies with Skyrim SexLab recordings but no one that makes them with FO4 AAF. 1
Neitiri Posted August 22, 2022 Author Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 12:20 PM, almond93 said: I am content with the pace of Fallout 4 mods. In fact I think that we have gotten a bunch of very high quality mods in such a short span of time recently. Here's some of the great mods that the fo4 modding scene has managed to put together Quest mods: Reveal hidden contents The upcoming Fallout London: Sim Settlements 2: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/47976 Point Lookout: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/60330 and my personal favourite: Companion Ivy I have also seen AAF Nuka Ride regarded very highly but I have never tried it myself. Clothing mods: Reveal hidden contents https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/61541 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/58962 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/50512 Lots and lots of very high quality Weapon mods: Reveal hidden contents https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/56969 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/61875 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/58521 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/50505 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/53998 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/53660 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62391 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62547 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/55447 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62347 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62400 https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/45796 I could keep going on but I think I may have gone overboard already. And this thing the stuff of nightmares: Reveal hidden contents https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62255 The one thing Fo4 does lack in over Skyrim is a large variety of Adult animations though. That is sort of a sore point for me. The absence of all these animations is sort of tempting me to do it myself but I have no experience and I don't really know where to start. Anyway Everybody else is getting what they want. The tacticools are getting their tacticool clothes and weapon mods. The gun nuts are getting these nifty scrapguns made out of your mom's toaster + a can of turpentine. The coomers have been getting some really amazing clothing mods + there is an amazing tool in development to aid screen archers right now and it is fantastic. And the hardcore players are getting gameplay overhaul mods such as MAIM and knockout framework. And there's a bunch of other mods out there that anybody can pick up and put into their game. I think that the fallout 4 modding scene is doing just fine really. Skyrim's modscene is bigger yes but I think that it is poor form to look at Skyrim's plate and lament "Oh they have more than me!" and feel sad. I am happy with our modders and I am grateful for what we have. The modders are awesome and I think they have been doing a fantastic job. ? Much love and appreciation for their continued hard work. Nexusmod is booming for fo4, i know... Well, just lack of animations, imperfect alignments also skyrim has more lore friendly mods, for example right now my Skyrim setup is setup so that i can go from start to finish with zero problem plus have fun in defeat, some dialog sex, modded quests to solve with sex and more... fo4 on other hand is quite dull in that aspect, there are some extreme addons yes, changing perspective... Skyrim just feel more like mature, well, maybe because it was re-released 100x time, but It's sad to see that Fo4 got a beating, even tho it is a hell of good game i think.
Neitiri Posted August 22, 2022 Author Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 3:50 PM, dbs156 said: My only gripe is that AAF's reliability is so far from SexLab's. I can get it to work but its just often janky, some features lag so much, some straight up don't work, and some are buggy. I used to wonder why there are NSFW content creators that make short movies with Skyrim SexLab recordings but no one that makes them with FO4 AAF. Ye, sadly it's quite junky, nowhere near SL, even tho Skyrim itself is junky
ANGRYWOLVERINE Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 1:40 AM, Neitiri said: Hello, I have always wondered, why FO4 is getting less modding attention than Skyrim for example. Skyrim has more animation, content, more interesting mods... I'm not complaining or anything, just generally interested, is FO4 that bad or Skyrim is just better at modding? Skyrim supposedly is much easier to mod. I don't know why Beth changed "stuff" for Fallout 4 but they did. I expect Starfield will be even more difficult to mod. An example is Racemenu verses Looksmenu. Not much of a contest.
Nuka Cherry Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Neitiri said: Ye, sadly it's quite junky, nowhere near SL, even tho Skyrim itself is junky SL will reload all the grass/trees in an outside area and lag horribly as it repositions actors in an horribly clunky way in modded games. AAF transition is much, much smoother. The main reason F04 lags behind Skyrim, is Skyrim is big in Asia, and they love their adult mods. Edited August 22, 2022 by Nuka Cherry 1
Neitiri Posted August 23, 2022 Author Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Nuka Cherry said: SL will reload all the grass/trees in an outside area and lag horribly as it repositions actors in an horribly clunky way in modded games. AAF transition is much, much smoother. The main reason F04 lags behind Skyrim, is Skyrim is big in Asia, and they love their adult mods. I can't argue how each mod is written... if it works it works, "golden rule" in coding Well, in general that's very sad, because AAF has quite amazing idea and is quite good mod, it needs some work tho... But without quality animations like Skyrim's Billy's anims for example or Baka anims it's pointless Edited August 23, 2022 by Neitiri
Sgt. Marge Posted August 24, 2022 Posted August 24, 2022 We have an acronym in the AAF server: FOINS (Fallout is not Skyrim) or, alternately, SINFO (Skyrim is not Fallout). Yes, they have similarities with both using the same modding tools, but they are different games with very different modding communities in some areas; particularly with adult modding. Likewise, Sexlab is not AAF. Unfortunately we have far less animations with AAF because of the nature of how they have to be created, with an old version of software that is no longer commercially available. This will hopefully change in the future, but it's not as easy currently to jump right in for an animator. I am seeing more animations being created recently which is very welcome. With Fallout 4 adult modding, we take what we can get and make the most out of it. Avoid the problematic mods and it's quite palatable. Everything has its own pros and cons, and you don't have to like something that someone else tells you to like. We do have a smaller community, but there are many that are still quite passionate about it. As long as that continues to be true, we will keep having more mods being designed and released to enjoy. 3
Neitiri Posted August 25, 2022 Author Posted August 25, 2022 12 hours ago, Sgt. Marge said: We have an acronym in the AAF server: FOINS (Fallout is not Skyrim) or, alternately, SINFO (Skyrim is not Fallout). Yes, they have similarities with both using the same modding tools, but they are different games with very different modding communities in some areas; particularly with adult modding. Likewise, Sexlab is not AAF. Unfortunately we have far less animations with AAF because of the nature of how they have to be created, with an old version of software that is no longer commercially available. This will hopefully change in the future, but it's not as easy currently to jump right in for an animator. I am seeing more animations being created recently which is very welcome. With Fallout 4 adult modding, we take what we can get and make the most out of it. Avoid the problematic mods and it's quite palatable. Everything has its own pros and cons, and you don't have to like something that someone else tells you to like. We do have a smaller community, but there are many that are still quite passionate about it. As long as that continues to be true, we will keep having more mods being designed and released to enjoy. Well explained and said !
govnovich Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 The only thing that F4 is very different from Skyrim is the number of sex animations. Looks like f4 is stuck at the Sexlab 2015 level and can't move from that point. I don't know much about modding, but it seems to me that making animation for F4 is much more difficult than for Skyrim. I hope that over the years there will be much more situations and animations. Unless, of course, Starfield turns out to be very popular and easy to modify.
South8028 Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, govnovich said: The only thing that F4 is very different from Skyrim is the number of sex animations. Looks like f4 is stuck at the Sexlab 2015 level and can't move from that point. I don't know much about modding, but it seems to me that making animation for F4 is much more difficult than for Skyrim. I hope that over the years there will be much more situations and animations. Unless, of course, Starfield turns out to be very popular and easy to modify. In fo4 it's not difficult, technically, to animate. I don't know if it's easier than Skyrim or harder. But not difficult. It's just that few animators want to create sex animations.
Ancient Plague Posted September 2, 2022 Posted September 2, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 12:40 AM, Neitiri said: Hello, I have always wondered, why FO4 is getting less modding attention than Skyrim for example. Hatred, greed and mental i...yes.
RJLbwb Posted September 6, 2022 Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) FO4 really problem is Fallout's general problem; Bethseda sucks ars at grim dark and post nuclear apocalypse is as grim dark as it gets, see the movie "Threads" 1984 for the ultra black this genre requires. It's really amazing Bethseda flubs it so badly considering Max Max is one of their inspirations and the world of Max Max is truly fucked, but some how the Developers missed the point that everyone was in the Australian Outback because of the low rain fall meant less fallout, not that "Nuclear Weapons caused mass desertification by reversing the earth's magnetic poles,", like in that silly movie Damnation Alley, which Bethseba also lists as an inspiration. So the end result, everyone is thinking about mods is thinking "Mad Max", "Threads", "On the Beach", meanwhile Bethseba is thinking "Damnation Ally", cartoony camp and bleak horror don't mix. If Todd had any balls the end of Fallout4 should it have came out that the whole game was an hallucination of Nick/Nora as they laid dying Vault 111 from the burns they got from the being exposed to that nuke's thermal flash. That would have been a genre aware ending. Edited September 6, 2022 by RJLbwb
Vader666 Posted September 6, 2022 Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, RJLbwb said: everyone is thinking about mods is thinking "Mad Max", "Threads", "On the Beach" I've never heard about the latter 2 and i was definitively not thinking about Mel Gibson while creating TortureDevices... 1 hour ago, RJLbwb said: That would have been a genre aware ending. And would've changed nothing about todays state of FO4 modding. 5
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