Stutter issue with DX Dark Mistress outfit

[traison]

So this thing popped up on the Nexus a while back, downloaded it, ran it through BodySlide etc. usual stuff, all good so far.

 

The outfit is fine ingame, no obvious issues, that is until something updates a RaceMenu 3BA morph. In my case this is my own mod changing the morphs but I'm not having issues with any other outfits, this is the first of a hundered with a problem like this. For every morph update, it's as if the game freezes for 0.1 seconds. It's a tiny stutter, but when combined with animated (smooth/incremental) morphs it becomes more obvious, and an actual problem.

 

• I've tried fiddling with the nif itself, thinking it might have been a texture memory issue. Removed some additional textures leaving only the diffuse and _n textures. Later verified vram is barely half full.
• I disabled all physics (smp and cbpc).
• I've limited the issue to both the corset meshes (DXDM Corset.nif and DXDM Corset II.nif).
• This almost feels like when the papyrus engine explodes and spams the log with thousands of error lines. Not the case here though.

 

Any ideas?

[traison]

Just found another outfit with the same issue: Shadow Cat

 

This time it's the top nif (ShadowCatTop.nif).

 

And again, no leads so far.

[anjenthedog]

I noticed the same or very similar stutter symptom after installing something recently, although I haven't installed any wardrobe mods recently. 

 

In my case, I'm getting the stuttering (what I'll call it for convenience's sake) in certain areas more than in others. For instance, Riften is particularly noticeable, as is Whiterun. Possibly Solitude but I'll have to check. I don't think I noticed it in Windhelm, where I was a few times last night while playing. Not so much "in the wilds". Also haven't noticed it in caves.

 

FWIW, my most recent installs at the time of the initial incidence (including updates) are

 

Shooting Stars SE 

Splashes of Storms

Splashes of Skyrim SE

Outfit Changer SSE  

RaceCompatibility All-in-one Scripted Installer

 

The last I'm not too concerned about (in terms of potential script bottlenecking), but I'm adding it just because it interacts with characters, and character re-renders can be a bit glitchy on occasion ime

 

 

 

 

[traison]

Another outfit with the same issue: TRX Latex Witch

 

I  have compressed and resized the textures on this one. They were over 4.5 GiB by default which is just silly. Also running a 3BAv2 conversion. Suppose its fair to say I'm not actually using TRX Latex Witch and the original author of that mod has nothing to do with this problem. Still though, the stutter pattern is exactly the same as in the other 2 outfits above, hence it gets mentioned here.

 

Also again, it's the meshes containing the 3bav2 body that cause the issue.

 

Things I've tried this time around. Files were restored between each attempt.

1. Removing the body from the mesh in NifSkope does not fix it. Only unequipping the armor piece fixes it.
2. Ran all meshes through SSE Nif Optimizer, and rebuilt in BodySlide. Still stuttering.
3. Removed all textures belonging to this mod. Still stuttering.
4. Built regular "vanilla" CBBE meshes (not 3BAv2) of outfit. Still stuttering.
5. Updated bodyslide to 5.6.0. Built meshes. Still stuttering.
6. Bypassed BodySlide by manually copying and renaming meshes from the ShapeData directory. Still stuttering.
7. Compared known-good outfit to Latex Witch Top 2. Tried adding missing SLF2_Assume_Shadowmask to BSLightingShaderProperty. No other obvious differences found. Still stuttering.
8. Tried copying Emissive, Alpha, Glossiness, Specular, Environment, Refraction and Lighting settings from a known-good outfit. Still stuttering, as was expected.
9. Copy-pasted the entire BSTriShape from a working outfit, into Latex Witch Top 2 (Copy Branch -> Paste Branch). All morphs broke, as was expected. This noticeably reduced the stuttering.
10. Copy-pasted the entire BSLightingShaderProperty from a working outfit, and linked it to the stuttering BSTriShape. Still stuttering. Safe to say now that the BSDismemberSkinInstance node contains the problem?
11. Copy-pasting the BSDismemberSkinInstance like I did with the BSLightingShaderProperty did not give the expected performance improvement. Still stuttering.
12. Converted meshes to LE format using SSE Nif Optimizer, then back to SSE format. Stuttering is gone in LE format, but so are the morphs. Stuttering, along with morphs are back with the SSE files. The issue is not in the nifs but rather in how the morphs work (RaceMenu)? One would assume that whatever was removed/changed in the SSE->LE conversion could not be restored in the LE->SSE conversion.

 

Edited November 1, 2022 by traison

[traison]

Setting bEnableBodyMorph=0 in skee64.ini removes the stuttering, but obviously also the body morphs made ingame. This is very unfortunate, as I won't be able to fix this myself. Already got the latest SSE version that appears to be available: 0.4.16.

 

Edit: Just to confirm, I disabled everything (sculpting, overlays, bodygen, tints, ...) except for body morphs in the skee64.ini, and the stuttering is there.

 

Edit: skee64.log shows nothing obvious.

 

Edit: Setting bParallelMorphing=0 in skee64.ini made the stuttering extremely obvious. Unplayable at this point.

Edited November 1, 2022 by traison

[traison]

I have yet to find what it is about these nifs that nioverride (racemenu) finds so incredibly difficult to handle. It is however obvious that morph updates is what is causing it. Every call to NiOverride.UpdateModelWeight() causes a stutter, regardless of how frequent or infrequent it is. The more affected outfit parts that are worn, the worse the stutter. The easy answer perhaps could be "too many vertices/triangles", but I have outfits here that are just fine and contain 3 times the vertex and triangle data.

 

I have created an event aggregator for UpdateModelWeight and implemented it in all my mods to try to alleviate the problem. The things I had created were admittedly a bit morph-happy, so this was long overdue anyways. But still, like I said, every call to UpdateModelWeight will cause a split second freeze. By doing this, and disabling enboost I managed to get it down to being more like "did it just stutter?" rather than "well this is all kinds of broken."

 

For posterity, enboost 281 and 283 behaved no differently. I don't know why disabling enboost made a difference, but considering how tiny it was it could be within error margin, or just some overall load reduction. Skyrim is one of those games that will lag long before your system resources are used up so who knows where the practical limits are here.

Edited November 2, 2022 by traison

[traison]

Another outfit found with the issue: The 3BA conversion of [Melodic] Egyptian Accesories.

[traison]

I've finally found the solution. It's a bit of a long and complicated one, but the short version is this:

 

Get a RaceMenu version which has Features.bEnableBodyNormalRecalculate and set it to 0. This is most likely only in the versions made for game version 1.6.*.

 

Alternatively you can do what I did and write a python nif parser that does the vertex conversion from data size 40 to data size 32. I didn't go all the way with this as I found that BodySlide will reverse the vertices back to data size 40 for whatever reason; then I stumbled upon the RaceMenu setting. I probably missed something, for instance the vertex data flags are (for whatever reason) in at least 3 different places. I only updated 2 of these. I imagine this should still work if done properly.

 

I'm going to proceed with the RM settings change and running 1.6.1170.0 from now on. No real loss in disabling that feature. I get better results with my own normal map swapper code.

 

Python code is available upon request.

 

Edit: Turns out the stuttering is still there with the RM config edit, it just takes a lot more to bring it out. Also turns out the nifs produced by my python script can't be rendered in-game despite being fine in BodySlide, Outfit Studio and NifSkope.

 

Edited April 15, 2025 by traison

[traison]

Back again with a "I fixed it (maybe)!"

 

Install DXVK and run the game through Vulcan (yes, even on Windows). Not only is the stuttering gone, I regained at least 50% fps (40->60) which I recently lost installing silly shaders for CS.

 

Edit: All previously stuttering outfits tested, no issues remain. DXVK/Vulcan making Microsoft look even more incompetent.

Edited August 12, 2025 by traison

[leighn]

On 8/11/2025 at 8:05 PM, traison said:

Back again with a "I fixed it (maybe)!"

 

Install DXVK and run the game through Vulcan (yes, even on Windows). Not only is the stuttering gone, I regained at least 50% fps (40->60) which I recently lost installing silly shaders for CS.

 

Edit: All previously stuttering outfits tested, no issues remain. DXVK/Vulcan making Microsoft look even more incompetent.

 

 

Hello ! Unfortunatly  I have the same issue, when my character wears  some armors the hiccup/stuttering each second is awful. I tried your fix to decimate face count with blender, it works but it's a pain to execute for each armor.

I tried to run the game with Vulkan and the stuttering is still here

[traison]

10 minutes ago, leighn said:

I tried to run the game with Vulkan and the stuttering is still here

 

Grab a dxvk.conf if you didn't already, and test again.

 

Edit: Also you can set "dxvk.hud = fps" in dxvk.conf under the section named SkyrimSE.exe to make sure it's actually working. If you see no fps counter, something went wrong with the install (presumably). If you're on VR you may need to rename the section to whatever the image name is for Skyrim VR.

Edited September 22, 2025 by traison

[leighn]

On 9/22/2025 at 10:03 AM, traison said:

 

Grab a dxvk.conf if you didn't already, and test again.

 

Edit: Also you can set "dxvk.hud = fps" in dxvk.conf under the section named SkyrimSE.exe to make sure it's actually working. If you see no fps counter, something went wrong with the install (presumably). If you're on VR you may need to rename the section to whatever the image name is for Skyrim VR.

 

Thanks ! I just made a test with 2 armors :

Obi's Desert Sorceress > without your help  I lose 5 fps each seconds and now the framerate is stable

 

[BAKU]DOA6 Christie Costume 10 3BA (65000 face count) > This is the armor who suffers the most from stuttering : more that 10 fps lost each seconds... After 0.5 decimate I lose 5 fps/sec

Now with dxvk : No more issue with 0.5 decimate armor but still a slight stuttering with the vanilla armor (5 fps lost)

 

Nonetheless You helped me a lot and it works grealty now ! Thanks again !

 

 

Edited September 25, 2025 by leighn

[leighn]

After some test, the game is unplayable in Exterior Cell, The framerate is now too low even if the stuttering greatly reduced...

 

And indeed, the stuttering is linked to Body morphs : i Disabled bEnableBodyMorph in skee.ini and no more stuttering, but also no more bodymorphing... I really don't know why it concerns just some armors

Edited September 25, 2025 by leighn

[traison]

1 hour ago, leighn said:

After some test, the game is unplayable in Exterior Cell, The framerate is now too low...

 

The unfortunate thing with me working around the issue with DXVK is that the real problem still remains unknown.

 

The only thing that looks to be different between my current config and the one I linked is that I have the following:

dxvk.enableAsync = true

 

So the only advice I have for you is to look up the documentation on the dxvk.conf file and go through the options.

 

Edit: I gained fps all around, inside, outside doesn't matter. The only place I'm having problems with right now is the snow gusts outside Bleakfalls Barrow. It drops to 30 fps when those are covering the entire screen. I'm not too bothered by that for 2 reasons:

1. That's the only problematic spot I've found.
2. Since the begining of time, one of the most difficult things for a gpu has been rendering fullscreen particles. I don't know why that is, but you can basically grab any game engine from any time between the 1990 and 2025 and it will struggle when there's large particles close to the camera.

Edited September 25, 2025 by traison

[leighn]

Sone news again...Dxvk is too demanding for my rig so i Tried something new... Starting a new game with a new character and simply test armors who stutters the most and... Any issues encountered ! So This stuttering is related to a specific mods !

 

Now the most boring part is to verify each .esp now...

 

A user had the same problem and apparently it was cursed loot https://www.loverslab.com/topic/161571-solved-stutterfps-drop-60fps-to-30-40fps-every-10-seconds-when-wearing-a-certain-type-of-modded-armor-tawoba-dx-armors . I have already check that before i Reply in this topic but it's probably a similar mod...

 

I keep searching in my LOad order

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yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp=1
AnubAnimObj.esp=1
Deviously Enslaved.esp=1
EggFactory.esp=1
HumanoidVampires.esp=1
[Dint] BDO Valkyrie.esp=0
SexLab - Devious Butt.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
YOT - Keep it Clean.esp=0
Kailani Bikini.esp=0
SexLabWorkingGirl.esp=1
Apropos2.esp=1
C5Kev's Epic Black Rose Armor UUNP HS.esp=0
RaceMenu Overlays Hieroglyphics.esp=1
H2135ModernSeries3.esp=0
[Kirax] Vindictus Sakura Blossom.esp=0
[RyanReos] High Priestess.esp=0
FadeTattoos.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
VWExtendedSnow - WaterFix - Patch.esp=0
LazyItemEdit.esp=0
Customize Weapon Speed.esp=1
Origins Of Forest - 3D Forest Grass.esp=0
Kaw's Claws.esp=1
HDT Female Hairstyles Wigs.esp=0
Osare Culort Outfit.esp=0
AZ_ErinStandalone.esp=1
[COCO][GFB]ms_shirt.esp=1
Vindictus Necromancer Xing.esp=0
[dint999] ShadesOfAsh.esp=0
[COCO]Shadow assassin_B.esp=1
Ashtoreth_JmenaruRevyJeans.esp=0
[Army]2B Lingerie 2.esp=1
Ashtoreth_HathorArmor.esp=0
Clear Skies Fix SE.esp=0
EFFDialogue.esp=1
Realistic Light Enchantment.esp=0
Melodic.esp=1
[Rektas] Purple Esmeralda [SE].esp=0
Vivid Water Fix.esp=0
WeightMorphs.esp=1
YunDao_Hdt_Hair.esp=1
DX Succubus Armor.esp=1
H2135FantasySeries8.esp=0
BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp=1
HHairstyles wigs.esp=1
H2135FantasySeries7.esp=0
WondersofWeather.esp=1
SOS - ERF - HighPoly Equipable.esp=0
SOS - TRX - Futanari Armor Addon.esp=0
BDHoodieFemale.esp=1
WetFunction.esp=1
DD_Helpers.esp=1
Vaerclothes(Alpha).esp=0
Grass FPS Booster.esp=1
[COCO]ParagonShinbi_full.esp=1
VioLens SE.esp=1
NibblesAnimObjects.esp=1
GPArmorPack3.esp=0
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
Bayonetta 2 Accessories.esp=1
Unique Character.esp=1
Footprints.esp=1
Footprints - ENB.esp=1
Better Horses 3.0.esp=1
SexLabDangerousNights2.esp=0
KS Hairdo's.esp=1
[COCO]FlyinDance.esp=0
XPMSSE.esp=0
ELFX Styled Hearthfire Light.esp=1
[Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp=1
SexlabLightMeUp.esp=1
TeraSuccubusArmor.esp=0
TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp=1
[Kirax] Vindictus Regina Pack.esp=0
DM BDOR Summer Box.esp=1
Serana.esp=1
[COCO]Raikou_Full_B.esp=0
mrt_ARCC.esp=1
SINful CBP.esp=1
Daemon Girl BHUNP.esp=1
[COCO]wedding_2B.esp=1
Spank That Ass.esp=1
SpankThatAss - NoDebuff.esp=1
CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1
Milker Movil Armor.esp=0
SLIA-Drunk Patch.esp=0
[Melodic] Maid Outfit.esp=0
PSLacePanties.esp=0
atkspdmod.esp=1
Juliet.esp=1
Takara.esp=1
ShandarStandaloneFollower.esp=1
Obsidian - Godrays.esp=1
[Daymarr] Zelda Warrior.esp=0
UnlimitedFastTravelMCM.esp=1
BDOR Nova Hair.esp=0
SMP Earrings.esp=1
RB's Barbarian set CBBE Bodyslide.esp=0
Gray Cowl of Nocturnal - Duneripper Fix.esp=0
ArmorLandscape.esp=1
RohZima_AnimObjects.esp=1
Poses.esp=1
SexLab Approach.esp=1
BaboInteractiveDia.esp=0
SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp=1
SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp=1
SD Addons.esp=1
Elizabeth's Tower - Azura Shrine.esp=1
RoadInspections.esp=0
Let's dance again.esp=1
[Ashtoreth] Blithe Hair.esp=0
Osare Underwear.esp=0
heimu1776.esp=0
Lagoon.esp=0
CrestysDistantMists_VanillaOrTrueStorms_Patch.esp=1
LazyHeels.esp=1
_GSPoses.esp=0
[COCO]BattleAngels.esp=0
[Odd] Demon Seducer.esp=1
[NINI] Ancient Oasis [SE].esp=0
[COCO] Mysterious Mage [SE].esp=0
BHUNP Luxurious Seduction.esp=0
[NINI] Demon Ranger.esp=0
[COCO]Goddess War v2.esp=0
ROSDDA.esp=0
[COCO] Scarlet Rose.esp=1
[immyneedscake] RyanReos Bunny Irelia.esp=0
DrifterArmorAndOutfitByXtudo.esp=0
[Melodic] Sweet Romance.esp=0
Armors3.esp=0
KSA_vdk.esp=0
NIER 2B Set.esp=1
Banisuta.esp=0
fox61 Armor.esp=0
[Dint999] BDOr_Hairstyles.esp=1
SexLabTools.esp=0
AddItemMenuSE.esp=1
[full_inu] Queen Marika's Dress.esp=1
[GnoMod] Priest Bifrost.esp=0
[BnS] GZRY.esp=0
[Melodic] Raven.esp=0
[Caenarvon] Cosplay Pack Schooldays.esp=0
Bella Lingerie Set [SE].esp=0
AshleyRomanticOutfit.esp=0
[BAKU]DOA5LR Kasumi Casual Costume.esp=1
LTEB.esp=1
Cyrodilic Collections.esp=1
CyrodilicCollectionsHammerfell.esp=1
Femmequins.esp=1
SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp=0
Missives.esp=0
Missives - Solstheim.esp=0
SL Dirty Deeds Missives.esp=0
DX Bikini Collection SE Full.esp=0
Clothes Pack 4 by DonEb14n.esp=0
BHUNP COCO Fairy Queen.esp=0
[Christine] Nord Ascended.esp=1
Knight of The Village Set.esp=0
KillBill.esp=0
BHUNP Melodic Aetheria.esp=0
BDOR Aquila by Team TAL.esp=0
VtawWardrobe5.esp=0
BO EC0007.esp=0
R18Pn - Astaroth Suit.esp=0
Maslea - CC Survival Patch.esp=1
Yoga.esp=1
COCO3BBB.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsCOCO.esp=0
[Army]Artnip Mei Terumi.esp=0
[Army]Flowers Bikini.esp=0
LakewievFurniture.esp=0
Disable Turn Animation.esp=1
BulwarkGrate.esp=1
MuJointFixToggleSLandOstim.esp=1
Simply Rest Anywhere.esp=1
iWant Widgets.esp=0
iWant Status Bars.esp=1
CollisionReset.esp=0
[NINI] Open Waist.esp=0
SmpFixer.esp=1
armor2023.esp=1
[ELLE] Bifrost.esp=1
SexLab Extra Voices.esp=1
SLWidgets.esp=1
zz_YenneferRace.esp=1
The Witcher Yennefer by Team TAL [SE].esp=0
SC_ZZ_Triss.esp=0
TrissMerigoldW3.esp=1
JaxonzMCMKicker.esp=0
FurnitureConditionSpell.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
MSZ Resort.esp=0
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp=1
Open Cities Skyrim.esp=1
Bondage Furniture World.esp=0
Bondage Furniture World OCS.esp=0
GetStrippedOCS.esp=0
[Shino] Sailor Jupiter.esp=1
ROSSchoolUniform SMP.esp=1
DBZOutfit.esp=1
Growing Pubic and Body Hair.esp=0
SOSGrowingPubicHair.esp=0
[Army] Caelie Outfit.esp=0
[COCO] FlyinDance.esp=1
[Rektas] First Priest [SE].esp=0
[COCO] Gothic Babe.esp=0
[COCO]SMP hair v6.esp=1
TBD - TyrisFlareArmor.esp=1
armorOCT23.esp=1
ArmorOCT23-2.esp=1
SexlabArousalEnhancement.esp=1
[FB] Witch Slayer.esp=0
DX Witcher Armor.esp=0
ObiMizora.esp=0
[ELLE] October Seer.esp=0
[GnoMod] Ivy Valentine Outfit.esp=0
[GnoMod] Kasumi Classic Outfit.esp=0
[GnoMod] KOFXVI Mai Shiranui.esp=0
ChildrenOfLilith.esp=0
_Fuse00_ArmorMelony.esp=0
ZMD'S Obscure Overlays RaceMenu.esp=0
zzSkyrimAttire.esp=0
[COCO] Lace Lingerie Pack.esp=0
ahzFleetKnight.esp=0
[ELLE] Abyss.esp=0
NightshadeMistress.esp=1
[COCO] Lolita.esp=0
[Odd] Bewitching Heart Succubus.esp=0
[ELLE] Hot Style Kimono.esp=1
DOA Lingerie Collection.esp=1
BacksteppoFrenchMaid SMP.esp=0
[COCO] CaressofVenus.esp=0
WyrmSlayerArmor.esp=0
[TheMilkDrinker] YoRHa 2B Attire.esp=0
[ELLE] Attractive Underwear Collection.esp=0
[ELLE] Love Potion.esp=0
[COCO] Witchiness.esp=0
Unlock Heart Outfit.esp=0
[Caenarvon] Plegian Dark Mage.esp=0
Vogue Rouge Clothing.esp=0
NamelessLight.esp=1
[COCO] Deliciously Bride.esp=0
Egil's Demon Hunter.esp=0
[Melodic] Business Woman LE.esp=0
[Caenarvon] Cosplay Pack Swimmer.esp=0
BeeingFemale More Potions.esp=1
Armure Ash.esp=1
itgrows.esp=0
[Daymarr] Shadow Knight.esp=0
RogueOutfit.esp=0
[Caenarvon] Cosplay Pack.esp=0
BHUNP Cosplay Pack.esp=1
Goddess.esp=0
[Christine] Dragon Priestess.esp=0
[COCO] Snow Queen.esp=0
Black Thief.esp=0
Dark Mist Outfit.esp=0
[Predator] School Girl.esp=0
[Predator] Trainer Devices 2.0.esp=1
ahzWaywardKnight.esp=1
[Caenarvon] Pharaoh Slave.esp=1
[Caenarvon] Pharaoh Slave Modified Veil.esp=1
SexLabGapeMorph.esp=1
armorsept2024.esp=1
BakaMotionData.esp=1
Azure Knight Armor.esp=0
Azure Knight Armor Light.esp=0
Azure Knight Armor Heels Sound.esp=0
[ELLE] Knight Elaine.esp=0
[ELLE] Warrior.esp=0
[FarliBarcai] GTA Bikini.esp=0
DragonSong.esp=1
UBE 2.0 [Ida Faber] Priestess Girl.esp=0
[BAKU]DOA Christie Costume.esp=0
[Amsedillir] Runes of Thorns.esp=0
[Deedlitz] Bikini Pack - COCOBodyB.esp=0
Obi's SkirtShirt.esp=0
[ELLE] ZK Rogue.esp=0
StarGuardian.esp=0
StarGuardian HeelSound.esp=0
DD - Temio Cloth.esp=0
[Melodic] Star Sling LE.esp=0
BacksteppoPEDress SMP.esp=0
Ashtoreth Sanguine.esp=0
Ashtoreth Zahra Outfit.esp=0
Ashtoreth Rune Dress.esp=0
Ashtoreth  Sparkling Blue.esp=0
Ashtoreth Sweet Berry.esp=0
Ashtoreth Layla Outfit.esp=0
Ashtoreth Elven Knight Armor.esp=0
[Army] Power!.esp=0
[Caenarvon] Cosplay Pack Maid.esp=0
KarlovManorSSE.esp=0
MassMatchMakerSE.esp=0
MCMHelper.esp=0
[AN]CyberClub_SE.esp=0
[COCO] Mulan.esp=0
Shamatz.esp=0
Kinky Inn.esp=0
Red Ninja Kurenai Outfit.esp=0
OneWithNature.esp=0
GGFriendlyWhore.esp=0
Dreamborne Islands.esp=0
KidnappedByRieklings.esp=1
KidnappedByRieklings_GoblinSlayer.esp=1
MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp=0
RemnantsHammerfell.esp=0
[GarudaB]DOAXVV Reincarnation Wisdom SE.esp=0
DOA_Gem_Bikini_Softbody.esp=0
UUNP Vanilla Outfits.esp=1
DesertLamiasinHammerfell.esp=1
MoreToDoHammerfell.esp=1
PatchDDBMORETODOHammerfell.esp=1
Subtleties of Skyrim.esp=1
PubicHAIRMerge.esp=1
Sexlab - Manual Strip.esp=0
Tongues.esp=1
ypssounds.esp=1
Racemenu Handnails.esp=0
Shas' Equipable Handnails_VersionYps.esp=0
Shas' Equipable Handnails.esp=0
bathhouse.esp=0
BathhouseOCS.esp=0
Riften_Bathhouse.esp=0
Riften_BathhouseOCS.esp=0
Beach Body - Dynamic Suntan.esp=1
Sunstarved_Tanlines.esp=1
masleaupdates.esp=0
[ELLE] SK Shinobi.esp=1
Obi's Cimmerian.esp=1
ChronomancerArmor.esp=1
FashionWtich Set.esp=1
[FB] Manticore Armor.esp=1
Girl's Travel Outfit.esp=1
[TheDaedricDoll] GothicPrince.esp=1
TBD - ShadowWitch.esp=0
Shadow Witch [SE].esp=1
Starlight Queen [SE].esp=1
Panties [SE].esp=1
DDlingery.esp=1
[Ichirou] Allure Lingerie.esp=1
Obi's Masquerade.esp=1
Obi's Derketo Priestess.esp=1
[Daymarr] K-Fashion Pack.esp=1
[QH]NvshenLeisi.esp=1
Obi's Hood&Steel.esp=1
Bisquits Pain Bringer.esp=1
[Deedlitz] Twilight Marauder.esp=1
Aether Outfit.esp=1
[Daymarr] Yokuda.esp=1
VolkiharAssasin.esp=1
Ashley Graham Hair.esp=0
[Enovilum] Vampire Temptress Armor.esp=1
StalhrimBikini.esp=1
[Daymarr] Lone Wanderer.esp=1
[Daymarr] Late Night Pack.esp=1
_Fuse00_ArmorAkasha.esp=1
Roaming Girl's Attire.esp=1
hdm_InvictaLingerie.esp=1
[Rand] TERA Leather Archer Set.esp=1
hdm_Samara.esp=1
DD - Elanor Timeless Elegance.esp=1
PetitePenelope.esp=1
Kaine Outfit.esp=1
H2135FantasySeries5.esp=1
Elvenia Armor.esp=0
Obi - Eve's Sunfire Armor.esp=1
BoxtonCloak.esp=0
GhoulArmor.esp=0
Reekling Follower.esp=0
FA01RedcapFollower.esp=0
RedcapSLPatch.esp=0
Redcap Shadowman Anise compatibility patch.esp=0
[full_inu] Armor Pack 01.esp=0
[full_inu] Armor Pack 01 - Heels Sound Patch.esp=0
[full_inu] Armor Pack 01 - SOS Patch.esp=0
HeelsFix.esp=1
Wilding.esp=0
sl_triggers.esp=1
SLTriggersCumEffects.esp=1
[Predator] Fuck Doll.esp=1
[Predator] Liquid Pack v2.esp=1
SL Survival.esp=1
[Predator] Custom HP Head edits.esp=1
High Poly Head Vampire Fix.esp=1
Unique Character - High Poly Head Fix.esp=1
CBPC anus support.esp=1
Obi's DesertSorceress.esp=1
abcd_DirtyNeedsMod.esp=0
SLDrunkRedux.esp=0
SLDrunkRedux - Disable Blur Effect Custom Patch.esp=0
SC_TW3_Ciri.esp=0
LV_Cirilla.esp=0
WitcherTrio.esp=0
PSPhilia.esp=0
BakaFactoryABC.esp=1
Jackie.esp=1
Private Needs - Orgasm.esp=1
00FacialExpressions.esp=1
FlufyFoxAnimObjects.esp=1
HJ_LostPassages.esp=0
HJ_LostPassagesOCS.esp=0
HJ_LostPassages_Cities.esp=0
LostPassages_Cities_USSEP.esp=0
lilyrim-Deity_Dream.esp=0
SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp=0
FollowerPlayerDynamicArousal.esp=0
SexlabFN.esp=0
HYORFishingIntegrationPatch.esp=0
Northpoint Meshes Fixes.esp=1
NorthpointBoars.esp=1
arnima_patch1keys.esp=1
arnima_patch4RadiantChests.esp=1
DistinctSoulGems.esp=1
Lightweight Potions French.esp=1
BU-ArmorSets.esp=1
CK_Wigs.esp=1
huan_eggFactoryAddon.esp=1
SurvivalMode-WeaponSpeedPatch.esp=1
Occ_Skyrim-Open_cities_patch.esp=0
Occ_Skyrim_CuttinRoomFloor.esp=0
Beyond Reach - Blubbo Reach Tree Fix.esp=1
Arnima - Landscape Texture Fix.esp=1
BRarmor.esp=1
BRarmor - Signs.esp=1
Gray Fox Cowl - Fixed .nif Records.esp=1
Maslea - Fixed .nif Records.esp=1
MrSiikaSeaviewDemo.esp=0
Loriath.esp=0
Enhanced Vanilla Trees SSE.esp=1
SLALFURNITURE.esp=1
Correctif Special.esp=1
ELFX - Exteriors Open Cities Patch.esp=1
ELE_SSE.esp=1
ELE_SSE_CRF.esp=1
ELE-ELFX Patch AIO.esp=1
ELE-ELFX Patch Cavern Worldspaces.esp=1
ELFXEnhancer.esp=1
ELFX - Weathers.esp=1
ELFXWaterFix.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1
ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp=1
ELFX - Fixed .nif Records.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp=1
Realistic Water Two - Landscape Fixes.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities Patch.esp=1
Bathing in SSE - RWT Patch.esp=1
ENB Light.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp=0
RealisticWaterTwo - Keep It Clean.esp=0
RWT Lod Fix.esp=1
Obsidian Watermult Fix.esp=1
RW2 Better Watercolor - Regular.esp=1
RW2 Better Watercolor - Tropical.esp=0
RW2 Better Watercolor - Clearer.esp=0
MorthalHome.esp=0
Personalized Music v 6.0.esp=1
AhegaoTongues.esp=1
DynDOLOD.esp=1
Occlusion.esp=1
 

 

Edited September 26, 2025 by leighn

[traison]

26 minutes ago, leighn said:

So This stuttering is related to a specific mods !

 

Now the most boring part is to verify each .esp now...

 

A user had the same problem and apparently it was cursed loot...

 

I determined as much in my previous posts in this thread. The mods you're looking for are the ones that apply morphs - especially those that use tweening, like for instance lerping. Every time something calls for an Ni update, you lose a few frames resulting in the stutter. So if you want to go about fixing this through disabling mods then you need to get rid of all dynamic body morphs unfortunately.

 

26 minutes ago, leighn said:

Dxvk is too demanding for my rig...

 

Quite interesting considering I'm not running a beast here. What's your specs looking like, just out of curiosity?

I'm running a Ryzen 5 with a regular 3060 (12GiB model).

 

As far as I know Vulcan should be 1:1 with DirectX at worst, much faster at best. Games run a lot faster on Linux than they do on Windows these days, and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of it was coming from Vulkan.

Edited September 26, 2025 by traison

[leighn]

A Ryzen 7 2700X  Rtx 2080 and 32 Giga Ram... My Skyrim is really heavy modded, With Dyndolod, ENB, Open Cities...

Dxvk has some flickering shadows and weird windows explorer lag/latency (when i delete something)

 

Edit : I Removed a lot of .esp and finally removed the stuttering, now I have to find the suspect one

Edited September 26, 2025 by leighn

[traison]

10 minutes ago, leighn said:

Is this possible to track this suspect mod with Papyrus Log ?

 

No. Search through all pex scripts in all mods and BSA archives for UpdateModelWeight and you'll find the ones that apply morphs. This search can be done with Notepad++ as long as no pex files are hiding in packed BSA archives. I've made a utility that can do the search in its entirety if you would rather use that.

[leighn]

The culprit is found, it was Eggfactory https://www.loverslab.com/topic/215361-egg-factory-64-bit (and his addon huan_eggfactoryaddon) ! There is a different type of belly and  breast scale : No scaling, racemenu(I use this one), Sexlab inflation framework and Net immersive Override Framework.

 

And finally it was the Breast part who stutter my entire game, it was also set to racemenu. Switching to Nio fix my problem !

Edited September 26, 2025 by leighn

[traison]

20 minutes ago, leighn said:

Switching to Nio fix my problem !

 

That's because it's no longer using RaceMenu/BodySlide morphs now. It's using node scaling which is what we used to do back in pre-LE. It typically looks quite bad, but if it works for you then it's not really a problem obviously.

[leighn]

Just a quick report about Nio experience, it was a bad idea indeed. This is a short video from a user with the same problem i got recently https://imgur.com/a/2FAyN1H

 

A breast flickering with some armors (I think armors converted from Skyrim Vanilla), I simply disabled this option and it works now.

Edited October 3, 2025 by leighn