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Posted
5 hours ago, Chernodrev said:
I don't know much about modding The Sims 4. And yet, how could an update break a save that was almost entirely cosmetic content?

It's just the Sim's 4 spaghetti code causing issues. After the lovestruck update I couldn't open certain lots or save my game on certain households and realized that the problem was 1 (one) cc item that I had put on some lots (it was one of the vehicles by Lorysims)

Posted
51 minutes ago, Déshonorée said:

Hello, I want to ask about the requirements for the mods in this world save's mod list. Are these in this list as well or should I download them extra?

 A lot broke with the last update. That said...

 

On 8/9/2024 at 12:35 PM, TriggerBlade said:

Unlike previous instances of copy pasting, the save is gonna be rebuilt from the ground up. 100% cleaned CC folder, limited mods, and massive reduction in sims.

On the last bit. All sims removed will be uploaded as optional downloads. There are a lot of sims that have no connection or ties to any households. So like 50 porn stars and all of the easter egg sims. I'll probably throw the service NPCs in an optional download if they don't have connections to any households.

 

But I will state that mods don't cause lag, if they're programmed correctly. CC and sim count causes lag. Over half the contributors had tested this.

 

Posted (edited)

I'm new in the Sims games and not familiar with Sims terms also my main language is not English. I want to ask about the ''Notes'' part. TriggerBlade says:

Notes:

Sims listed as NPCs, or the "Townie" households, do have assigned functions. It is best not to play as them unless you have gauntlet's mods.

 

Homeless sims who do not have NPC in their household name are fine to move into any lot if you wish to play them.

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Can you please explain how can I notice which sim is ''Townie''? And I want to play with a Sim I made, so which Sims can I replace with this or can I add my own Sim to a household without replacing a Sim?

And one more thing, can I play as only one Sim in a household with other Sims?
Sorry if this question asked too much but I searched ''Townie'' in this topic and couldn't find any answers.

Edited by Déshonorée
I remember one more thing to ask.
Posted
9 hours ago, Déshonorée said:

I'm new in the Sims games and not familiar with Sims terms also my main language is not English. I want to ask about the ''Notes'' part. TriggerBlade says:

Notes:

Sims listed as NPCs, or the "Townie" households, do have assigned functions. It is best not to play as them unless you have gauntlet's mods.

 

Homeless sims who do not have NPC in their household name are fine to move into any lot if you wish to play them.

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Can you please explain how can I notice which sim is ''Townie''? And I want to play with a Sim I made, so which Sims can I replace with this or can I add my own Sim to a household without replacing a Sim?

And one more thing, can I play as only one Sim in a household with other Sims?
Sorry if this question asked too much but I searched ''Townie'' in this topic and couldn't find any answers.


There are some household with NPC or Townies in their name, e.g. "Police - NPC" or "Rich Townies" who are assigned to npc jobs, like policeman, mailman, etc. You can still play them if you like them but he advices that will mess up thei assignment. 
You can replace whichevere sim you want or create a new one and move it to a lot and play it.
You can play wit just one sim but not in existing household, you could start as single sim and then use the roommate function to share your house with other sims you won't directly control.

Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, vinceguldo said:


There are some household with NPC or Townies in their name, e.g. "Police - NPC" or "Rich Townies" who are assigned to npc jobs, like policeman, mailman, etc. You can still play them if you like them but he advices that will mess up thei assignment. 
You can replace whichevere sim you want or create a new one and move it to a lot and play it.
You can play wit just one sim but not in existing household, you could start as single sim and then use the roommate function to share your house with other sims you won't directly control.

Thank you for the answer. I already figured out the NPC's but I couldn't find any household named ''Townies'' that's why it's confusing for me.
So I can also evict a household and invite them as roommates, right?
Also when I have move into an household and start the game it stuck infinite loading screen. Tried at Vanilla save and game works perfectly fine. (I am not playing the Lovestruck version)

Edited by Déshonorée
Posted

Nobody asked for it but I want to share my experience:

I decided create my own save instead of waiting for another rebuild.

 

1- I decided to cut a little on the mod folder size, so as someone suggested I deleted almost all Sonya hair, for a total of 3 GB, I decided to cut almost entirely all the object build and override folders, 'cause in the beginning I prefer to focus on sims, later I'm gonna add objects as I see fit. I tried to cut on the script mods, keeping only what I felt fundamental, so, apart from the obvious I kept all basemental, the traits, some careers (unsure if they are scripts), language barrier and home regions, a couple of littlemssams.

2- I decided which sims to keep in the save, so obviously all of mrrakkon's, pornstars I actually never played, and many of them are not really tied to anything, but they're so hot, so they stayed.. all of santana's since they all have such rich backstories, Jbilant which I never played but look so good and also have nice backgrounds.. but also ghost, they kinda have a different aesthethic than the rest, but they're all so well interconnected that I didn't want to waste that.. socialowl has nice sims but I think their aesthetic is too different, so I skipped them, Tibo's also goes in a different direction so I kept them separeted for the time being.. so in the end a huge cut from the 700+ sims of the save but still a very high number..

3- I spent like 10 hours saving household and Lots, and regrouping them to keep family ties when possible, or creating households of service sims, then I placed them on the new save and added relationship with MCCC.. and I wanted to die, so much respect for @TriggerBlade work, I didn't get how tedious this was for such an amount of sims..

4- IT'S STILL A MESS. [Insert anti-EA rant here] there is still a lot of broken stuff and LE, apparently this "brainblasted_InjectionTools" broke down a couple of months ago, I removed it (don't know why I have it, maybe it's for the assing NPC mod from what I read, bit it wasn't working anyway) but I still get a lot of weird errors like action_university manus_handling and other unintelligible (for me) stuff, but luckily it seems minor stuff.

The 0.4 savegame was almost unplayable for me for the little I tried it, this new one for the most part works, it gets bumpy sometimes with LE but it's manageable, even if annoying. 

 

Service NPC doesn't seem to work and it's pissing me off.. I thought I had a smart plan about it: I wanted to wait till EA created randoms to fill the npc jobs and then switch them through MCCC copy/paste function, I would miss the extra traits but whatever, they're NPC.. problem is EA only used existing sims this time.. no problem, I imported the Service NPC households, marked as "other households" and used assign NPC to remove the existing from their roles and use mine.. but EA is dumb.. so it still makes stupid choices even if the npc already has a career it doesn't matter, and all the delivery where handled by "the roomies", I played them just to remove them from the roles and have Ea use mines, but then it was Mortimer Goth, who decided to make ends meet by working as a Zoom rider as a second job, why not? He was still unplayed but in one of my household.. who cares said EA! 

I have 6 assigned bartenders with relevant skills, yet when there is a bar to man EA recalls from retirement Grandpa Nishidake, who I suspect doesn't even know how to make cocktails.. I have this ridiculous thing where EA seems to prefer only sims with celebrity levels to work as maids, 'cause they're humble? So generally I can't even interact with them because my sims are starstruck.. 

Also, even if I checked in MCCC "only used saved outfits" I keep seeing played sims going around with random oufits when I'm not actively controlling their households..

Now I HAVE to keep playing because of the sunk cost fallacy.. but man, is EA evil.. 

Sorry for the WOT

Posted
7 hours ago, vinceguldo said:

I decided create my own save instead of waiting for another rebuild.

Fair and valid. The new rebuild will be more of a remake. We're cutting a lot of sims so you won't have to worry about bloat unless you download the optional ones. 

 

7 hours ago, vinceguldo said:

socialowl has nice sims but I think their aesthetic is too different, so I skipped them

socialowl's sims won't be in the remake as his save is coming along nicely and you guys can just download his sims from his page if you want them that badly.

 

7 hours ago, vinceguldo said:

I didn't get how tedious this was for such an amount of sims..

Now keep in mind I started working on this save with Eco Living. That came out in 2020.

 

8 hours ago, vinceguldo said:

Now I HAVE to keep playing because of the sunk cost fallacy.. but man, is EA evil.. 

There are a bunch of fixes scattered throughout the internet that make things MOSTLY functional. I'll be listing them for the remake.

Posted
On 8/9/2024 at 11:35 AM, TriggerBlade said:

Unlike previous instances of copy pasting, the save is gonna be rebuilt from the ground up. 100% cleaned CC folder, limited mods, and massive reduction in sims.

On the last bit. All sims removed will be uploaded as optional downloads. There are a lot of sims that have no connection or ties to any households. So like 50 porn stars and all of the easter egg sims. I'll probably throw the service NPCs in an optional download if they don't have connections to any households.

 

But I will state that mods don't cause lag, if they're programmed correctly. CC and sim count causes lag. Over half the contributors had tested this.

Looking forward to the rebuild, but I hope you don't too much culling in regards to the Sims, one of the draws of the Save is the multitude and diverse Sims you run into. But I have one suggestion though, can you make the premade sims a bit denser in terms of how many lots they take up, I like to play my own households alongside the premade ones but it's really difficult to incorporate additional sims and expand upon them in the save as it is, due to limited lot space, I figure with the new rental lot mechanic you can have more households per lot and free up some of the others for player usage.

 

I also recommend limiting the number of retail lots as well so players have some room to plop down their own without feeling like they're subtracting from the world.

Posted
13 hours ago, hickups said:

I figure with the new rental lot mechanic you can have more households per lot and free up some of the others for player usage.

This was intended for the 0.5 but mrrakkon didn't have For Rent at the time and I was getting really eager for my hiatus. I'm in my last semester of university so I wanted to clear my table of things to do.

 

13 hours ago, hickups said:

Looking forward to the rebuild, but I hope you don't too much culling in regards to the Sims

As said, the only sims that will be culled are sims that have absolutely no relation to to households. Them being in the save or being an optional download you can just toss into the save won't make a difference as they're not really acquainted with anyone.

We have a surprisingly high number of those sims.
 

 

On a separate note. We will most likely be abandoning this thread. We have our own internal group name and it's a better representation. While mrrakkon's sims make up 2/3 of the save, a lot of the sims are made by collaborators or were made with mrrakkon. So it will be a new thread called "[Group Name]'s World."

Posted
В 19.08.2024 в 0:35, TriggerBlade сказал:

Справедливо и достоверно. Новая реконструкция будет скорее ремейком. Мы сокращаем много симов, так что вам не придется беспокоиться о раздувании, если вы не загрузите дополнительные. 

 

Симов Socialowl не будет в ремейке, так как его сохранения идут хорошо, и вы, ребята, можете просто скачать его симов с его страницы, если они вам так сильно нужны.

 

Имейте в виду, что я начал работать над этим сохранением в Eco Living. Это вышло в 2020 году.

 

В Интернете разбросано множество исправлений, которые делают все ПО БОЛЬШИМУ работоспособным. Я буду перечислять их для ремейка.

I'm looking forward to it 🙏

Posted (edited)

So after alot of trial and error since updating yesterday, I ran the DX11 batch fix in sims 4 studio, updated all traits, script mods and animations I could find, and removed a pornstar traits mod i added from lovers lab. I performed the 50/50 method and the issues I had were with the following mods:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/band-life-mod-61119881

https://www.patreon.com/posts/mod-cello-skill-81321765

https://www.patreon.com/posts/functional-range-74339363?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_fan&utm_content=join_link

https://www.patreon.com/posts/pole-dance-mod-78432923?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_fan&utm_content=join_link

https://www.patreon.com/posts/dark-emotions-79729638

 

And I removed every sims4me(bienchien) autonomy mod as far as I'm aware they arent being updated. I've not ran into any major issues so far with my household or travelling between lots.

 

After running sims4studio fixes, reinstall wicked whims, it likes to modify one of the files and they dont play nice.

 

Edit: After running into some infinite loading screen issues on some lots, I installed the 123 error fix https://www.littlemssam.tumblr.com/post/757779868839755776/mod-fix-temporary-workaround-fix-for-some-123/

 

It works but affects the weebersu mods affecting autonomy and sims on lot during load screen.

Edited by SinstaSims
Posted
On 8/22/2024 at 1:19 PM, SinstaSims said:

So after alot of trial and error since updating yesterday, I ran the DX11 batch fix in sims 4 studio, updated all traits, script mods and animations I could find, and removed a pornstar traits mod i added from lovers lab. I performed the 50/50 method and the issues I had were with the following mods:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/band-life-mod-61119881

https://www.patreon.com/posts/mod-cello-skill-81321765

https://www.patreon.com/posts/functional-range-74339363?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_fan&utm_content=join_link

https://www.patreon.com/posts/pole-dance-mod-78432923?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_fan&utm_content=join_link

https://www.patreon.com/posts/dark-emotions-79729638

 

And I removed every sims4me(bienchien) autonomy mod as far as I'm aware they arent being updated. I've not ran into any major issues so far with my household or travelling between lots.

 

After running sims4studio fixes, reinstall wicked whims, it likes to modify one of the files and they dont play nice.

 

Edit: After running into some infinite loading screen issues on some lots, I installed the 123 error fix https://www.littlemssam.tumblr.com/post/757779868839755776/mod-fix-temporary-workaround-fix-for-some-123/

 

It works but affects the weebersu mods affecting autonomy and sims on lot during load screen.

I tried your fix but it didn't work for me, i still get infinite loading screens when loading some lots.

Posted
18 hours ago, asdurgico said:

I tried your fix but it didn't work for me, i still get infinite loading screens when loading some lots.

If you followed all of the above their could be some corrupt cc you have installed previously? or ive missed out something I removed, I would double check any Lot Traits, Aspirations and Sim Traits for updates.

 

If using this https://www.littlemssam.tumblr.com/post/757779868839755776/mod-fix-temporary-workaround-fix-for-some-123/ or not, make sure you have updated all LittleMsSams mods. All chingyu mods, King_Zace. Simularity, Kiara Sims.. infact just click back through all the links on the home page and update whatever has updates available.

 

The more im playing the more I've noticed problems or broken mods,
@vinceguldo further up mentioned saving the sims he wanted to his gallery and starting a fresh save, not the same as playing this save but im considering it also for the time being and using lots others have made in the gallery. This update has nuked alot of mods, and this save requires alot of troubleshooting, and at a certain point, remove mods will make the save completly unstable

Posted
2 hours ago, SinstaSims said:

If you followed all of the above their could be some corrupt cc you have installed previously? or ive missed out something I removed, I would double check any Lot Traits, Aspirations and Sim Traits for updates.

 

If using this https://www.littlemssam.tumblr.com/post/757779868839755776/mod-fix-temporary-workaround-fix-for-some-123/ or not, make sure you have updated all LittleMsSams mods. All chingyu mods, King_Zace. Simularity, Kiara Sims.. infact just click back through all the links on the home page and update whatever has updates available.

 

The more im playing the more I've noticed problems or broken mods,
@vinceguldo further up mentioned saving the sims he wanted to his gallery and starting a fresh save, not the same as playing this save but im considering it also for the time being and using lots others have made in the gallery. This update has nuked alot of mods, and this save requires alot of troubleshooting, and at a certain point, remove mods will make the save completly unstable

I still have infinite loading issues even if i remove my entire mod folder and load the save with vanilla SIMS 4 so i'm not sure it's a mod problem. And i have updated or removed all mods on the list

Posted

The mrrakkon 4.0 save file still starts for me. I made my tray empty. deleted localtumbcache.
WW
WP
PolyfractalCareer Escort are mods that I use.
It probably takes 5 minutes to get into the game and find everything in the 69GB mods folder.
There are no 123 errors when traveling.
The switching times feel a little longer than with the Vanilla+.

In the Summertime Saga the lots also seem to be crazy, I can place the households, save the houses, tried building in Vanilla+save. I can even invite these sims from Saga ,i can switch to them to play, but in the end they can't even travel home .

The least hassle is to have a savefile without sims from Sweety Whrigt84 ,with MCCC and simply import your own sims lol.

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, dschlaqinwe said:

It probably takes 5 minutes to get into the game and find everything in the 69GB mods folder.

Yeah when we remake this save I'm gonna remind people that we should probably keep that number down.

Posted
4 hours ago, 123456bac said:

How long until the updated save is out?

 

still takes...
I'm playing it right now.. Vanilla Unicorn broken...
Replaced by NISANE_VanillaUnicorn_3.1c

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