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Hello,

 

I want to start by saying I never updated to 1.6.x, I've stayed on 1.5.97 of Skyrim SE with SKSE version 2.0.20 by just launching through MO2 and disabling automatic updates in Steam. In October I had followed the SkyRem modding guide that enables over 700 plugins and ran it without a problem, but this time as I build a large mod loadout myself, I get a cap of 500 plugins.

 

No matter how many are ESMs or ESPs or ESLs, that the game won't load properly once I cross 500 plugins in my load order. At 500, I get a normal Alternate Start character creation. If I have 501 plugins, Alternate Start won't load and I get the default Helgen start. After about 600 plugins, starting a new game just leaves the Skyrim logo on screen with the music playing and no loading taking place. I can even open console during this time.

 

I don't believe it's a specific mod doing it as the new game will load properly once the plugin count is 500 or below, no matter which mods are loaded or not as long as all together I stay under 501. I haven't reached the 255 esp limit since ESM + ESP only make up 186 plugins, it's the rest of the ESL-flagged ESPs that bring it over the limit.

 

MO2, Loot, report nothing wrong and SSEdit (using the Check for Errors function) doesn't throw out anything that seems to point to a specific reason.

 

Is there anyone that can help out with this?

 

 

Load Order

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp
Vanilla Script MicroOptimizations.esl
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full ESL Version.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
OSA.esm
FISS.esp
SurvivalControlPanel.esp
BetterContainerControls.esl
AHZmoreHUD.esl
Landscape and Water Fixes.esp
MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
Cathedral - 3D Mountain Flowers.esp
BetterDynamicAsh-DisableRefs.esm
DisarmingTrapsIsDangerous.esl
SmoothCam.esl
MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
BlackreachSporesSE.esl
AKSkyrimUnderground.esm
Dwarfsphere.esp
High Poly Head.esm
Resources - The Great Cities.esp
JSwords.esm
Campfire.esm
Falskaar.esm
Skyrim Fixes Collection.esp
Vigilant.esm
WheelsOfLull.esp
iWant Widgets.esl
Fertility Mode.esm
Lux - Master plugin.esm *
snow elf waifu.esp
Wyrmstooth.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
DynDOLOD.esm
SkyUI_SE.esp
Hearthfires Houses Building Fix.esp
HD Lods SSE.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
AOS_ISC_Integration.esp
SimplyBalanced.esp
SimplyBalanced_OptionalEnchantmentFix.esp
SkyRem - Emili.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RDO Updated.esp
The Flora of Skyrim Trees SSE.esp
DepthsOfSkyrim.esp
FTF_Core.esp
SRC_ERS.esp
SRC - All In One.esp
HMB TCC.esp
High Poly NPC Overhaul - Resources.esp
High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition.esp
MCMHelper.esp
Extended UI.esp
RaceMenu.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
UIExtensions.esp
iHUD.esp
shalidor's maze fixes.esp
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
Folkvangr - Grass and Landscape Overhaul.esp
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
AI Overhaul.esp
Cathedral Weathers.esp
Veydosebrom Regions.esp
Cathedral - 3D Pine Grass.esp
Better Apiary.esp
Improved Traps.esp
NoPhysicsDamage.esp
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
Serana Dialogue Edit.esp
AudibleNPCDialogues.esp
TrueDirectionalMovement.esp
EVGConditionalIdles.esp
Draw2.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
Cathedral Weather Godrays.esp
CathedralWeatherMCM.esp
StormLightning.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
BlendedRoads.esp
HD Stone Quarry and Clay Deposits SE.esp
DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
JK's Understone Keep.esp
DealingwithDaedra.esp
Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp
Skyrim Reborn - Whiterun Hold.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
TFoS Large Juniper trees in the Reach SSE.esp
Undriel_QuaintRavenRock.esp
JK's Blue Palace.esp
JK's The Winking Skeever.esp
DungeonsRevisited.esp
Skyrim Reborn - Hjaalmarch Hold.esp
JK's Arnleif and Sons Trading Company.esp
YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul.esp
[xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition - AI Overhaul.esp
ESFCompanions.esp
SeranaDialogAddon.esp
Settlements Expanded SE.esp
Draugr Upgrades and Improvements.esp
Missing Apprentices CRF Quest Fix.esp
NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp
Sidequests of Skyrim.esp
SSoB.esp
KRI_DBMDelayPatch.esp
JK's Mistveil Keep.esp
Artifacts_Revised.esp
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
Undeath.esp
Nordic Ruins of Skyrim.esp
ForcefulTongue.esp
OwnCivilWar.esp
SpiceOfLife - OrcLStrongholds.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
Point The Way.esp
moonpath.esp
JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp
Embers XD.esp
DBM_ISC_Patch.esp
ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
QW's Grass Patch.esp
UndeathFixes.esp
MajesticMountains.esp
Falskaar - SkyTEST Patch.esp
Moonpath Music - Sky and Lighting fix - merged.esp
AHO - Skytest Patch.esp
Undeath - No Auto Quest Start.esp
JS Dragon Claws AE - Legacy of the Dragonborn.esp
AlchemyAdjustments.esp
OStim.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
The Brotherhood of Old.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Calcelmo Has Standards.esp
CFTO.esp
JK's New Gnisis Cornerclub.esp
JK's The Pawned Prawn.esp
Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
JKs Whiterun.esp
JK's Riverwood.esp
JKs Riften.esp
TSR_TeldrynSerious.esp
Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
CollegeEntry.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
JK's Temple of Mara.esp
JK's Palace of the Kings.esp
JK's The Hag's Cure.esp
Vigilant Voiced.esp
JK's Dragonsreach.esp
JKs Windhelm.esp
JK's Silver-Blood Inn.esp
JK's Elgrims Elixirs.esp
JK's Bee and Barb.esp
JK's Riverwood Trader.esp
JK's Radiant Raiment.esp
Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
Cloaks.esp
Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul.esp
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
Tel Mithryn.esp
Sepolcri.esp
JK's The Bannered Mare.esp
JK's White Phial.esp
[xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition - Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul.esp
RevampedReleveled.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
JKs Markarth.esp
Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp
DBM_GuardsArmorReplacer_Patch.esp
DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp
Amulets of Skyrim - Tweaks and Fixes.esp
wavetest.esp
fallentreebridgesSSE.esp
TreasureHunter.esp
DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp
ww_AlternateDBEnding.esp
JK's Sleeping Giant Inn.esp
WZOblivionArtifacts.esp
DBM_OblivionArtifacts_Patch.esp
AHZBetterDGEntranceSE.esp
fortdawnguardimmersive.esp
JK's Angelines Aromatics.esp
Clockwork.esp
JK's Candlehearth Hall.esp
Skaal Village.esp
JK's The Ragged Flagon.esp
Mystic Condenser.esp
JK's Bits and Pieces.esp
Fertility Mode 3 Fixes and Updates.esp
BGCollectables.esp
DBM_BGCollectables_Patch.esp
Landscape For Grass Mods JK'S Skyrim.esp
Notification Overhaul SE.esp
SunHelmSurvival.esp
water mod.esp
3BBB.esp
CBBE.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
KSHairdosSMP.esp
HallgarthAdditionalHair.esp
GoOnAhead.esp
RSChildren.esp
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt - SDE Patch.esp
JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp
JK's Warmaiden's.esp
Skyrim Remastered - Ice Caves Fix.esp
HPP - Vaermina's Torpor.esp
GDOS - Splendid Mechanized Dwemer Door.esp
SkyRem - Misti.esp
EnhancedAtronachs.esp
NotSoFast-MageGuild.esp
Skyrim Remastered - Glaciers and Ice.esp
Skytest Creature Extension.esp
EVE - Ghost Mechanics and Shaders Restored.esp
DurnehviirResurrected.esp
TFoS Trees of Whiterun Town Lore SSE.esp
HearthFires Display Case Fix SE.esp
JK's Arcadia's Cauldron.esp
specialeditionfollowers.esp
DawnguardArsenal.esp
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt - RDO Patch.esp
PayYourDues.esp
SkyRem - Cassi.esp
SkyRem - Grace.esp
Perks from Questing.esp
ZIA_WACCF_Patch.esp
Quest Markers Restored.esp
DBM_AHO_Patch.esp
Fossilsyum.esp
BetterDwemerExteriors.esp
Sepolcri - The Great Cities patch.esp
JK's Sadris Used Wares.esp
FDILOTDBPatch.esp
ColdRegionBehavior.esp
Better Dynamic Ash.esp
CathedralWeathersSeasons.esp
JK's Temple of Kynareth.esp
DBM_IW_Patch.esp
DBM_Vigilant_Patch.esp
konahrik_accoutrements.esp
Sky City.esp
DiverseWerewolvesCollection.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
Random Encounter Tweaks.esp
WoW Dragon Mounds CTD Fix.esp
ForcefulTongue - Wyrmstooth Patch.esp
JKs Winking Skeever - Undeath Patch.esp
Tools of Kagrenac.esp
DBM_TOK_Patch.esp
Mystic Condenser - USSEP Patch.esp
Functional Butter Churns.esp
Bloodworm.esp
Windhelm Nonsense Flora Remover.esp
Falskaar - Boat Location.esp
RadiantRequirements.esp
FDIDGArsenalPatch.esp
BoundEquipmentOverhaul.esp
Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp
FleshFX.esp
CWICRFSEPatch.esp
CWIAIPATCH.esp
Just Cast It.esp
Spell Tutor.esp
StavesGiveXp.esp
Summermyst - WACCF Patch.esp
(SGC) SkySA.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
know_your_enemy.esp
TrueArmor.esp
UltimateCombat.esp
VioLens SE.esp
Triumvirate - Mage Archetypes.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp
DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
GuardsArmorReplacer-Minimal_WACCF_Patch.esp
DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp
AlchemyAdjustments - WACCF Patch.esp
TradeRoutes.esp
HelgenReborn+CFTO.esp
Wintersun - Balance Tweaks.esp
DBM_SafehousePlus_Addon.esp
MAS Landscape Fixes.esp
Northern Marsh Bridges SE.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
ktWeaponPackSE.esp
GrandPaladinSE.esp
DBM_Falskaar_Patch.esp
JKs The Drunken Huntsman.esp
DBM_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp
BooksOfSkyrim.esp
DwemerSpectresLegendary.esp
AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
DBM_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp
JKs Blue Palace - USSEP Patch.esp
DBM_JKBluePalace_Patch.esp
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp
DBM_Wintersun_Patch.esp
DBM_TreasureHunter_Patch.esp
DBM_JaysusSwords_Patch.esp
DBM_MAS_Patch.esp
Helgen Reborn - USSEP Patch.esp
DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp
Landscape For Grass Mods - The Great Cities PATCH.esp
DBM_Fossils_Patch.esp
DBM_ZimsThaneWeapons_Patch.esp
DBM_KA_Patch.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp
DBM_ImmersiveCollegeofWinterhold_Patch.esp
Settlements Expanded SE - CFTO Patch.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
Landscape For Grass Mods - Moon and Star PATCH.esp
DBM_PathoftheRevanant_Patch.esp
DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp
treasure_hunt.esp
Landscape For Grass mods - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
icebladeofthemonarch.esp
DBM_IceBladeMonarch_Patch.esp
DBM_TheBrotherhoodOfOldPatch_OAP.esp
BentPines.esp
Settlements Expanded SE - Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges Patch.esp
IFDWACCFPatch.esp
[xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition - Immersive Weapons.esp
IW_SRCEO_Patch.esp
USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
TOK_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp
JS Dragon Claws AE - Helgen Reborn.esp
JS Dragon Claws AE - Konahriks Accoutrements.esp
JS Dragon Claws AE - Wyrmstooth.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted - ESL.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
Dynamic Things Alternative.esp
Extended Encounters.esp
PickpocketReset.esp
sweepingOrganizesStuff.esp
Settlements Expanded SE - RS Children Patch.esp
TradeRoutes-Patch-LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
TradeRoutes-Patch-MoonpathToElsweyr.esp
AlchemyAdjustments - CRF Patch.esp
Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp
YOT - Dirt and Blood.esp
Inn Soaps.esp
HonedMetal.esp
HonedMetal-MoreCraftingMaterials.esp
Honed Metal Voiced.esp
PoisoningExtended.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
SunHelmCampfireSkill.esp
SunHelmDiseases.esp
SunHelmWyrmstoothPatch.esp
SunHelm_Clockwork.esp
SunHelm_Falskaar.esp
TradeRoutes-Patch-Falskaar.esp
SunHelm_Dwarfsphere.esp
SunHelm_ForgottenCity.esp
SunHelm_Wintersun.esp
SunHelm_moonpath.esp
SunHelm_Wyrmstooth.esp
AOS_Cathedral Weathers Patch.esp
AOS_EBT Patch.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
NoCrunchyDeathSounds.esp
JS Barenziah SE - Johnskyrim.esp
KD - Realistic Fireplaces SE.esp
Qw_DeadlySpellImpacts_AOS Patch.esp
Qw_DeadlySpellImpacts_ISC Patch.esp
Frost Meshes Patch.esp
Embers XD - Patch - JKs Dragonsreach.esp
Embers XD - Patch - Vanilla Flames.esp
BCS_NotSoFast_Patch.esp
BCS_TCIY_Patch.esp
DBM_AOS_Patch.esp
JKs Arcadias Cauldron - USSEP Patch.esp
DBM_JKArcadia_Patch.esp
DBM_JKBelethor_Patch.esp
DBM_JKDrunken_Patch.esp
DBM_JKWarmaidens_Patch.esp
DBM_RSChildren_Patch.esp
DBM_RuinsClutterImproved_Patch.esp
DBM_SkyTEST_Patch.esp
DBM_SMIM_Patch.esp
DBM_SRCEO_Patch.esp
DBM_TGR_Patch.esp
DBM_MysticCondenser_Patch.esp
RevampedDwemerSpectrePatch.esp
[xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition - Cutting Room Floor.esp
SC SRCEO - CRF.esp
SC SRCEO - WACCF.esp
SC SRCEO Releveled - Cloaks.esp
TESL-LoadingScreens.esp
metaSkillMenu.esp
[xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition - LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
[xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition - Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul - Cutting Room Floor.esp
[xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition - Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul - Immersive Weapons.esp
AI Overhaul - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
Wintersun - USSEP Patch.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
DBM_WheelsofLull_Patch.esp
Project AHO Unofficial Patch.esp
DBM_TheGreatCitiesMinor_Patch.esp
ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
thedark.esp
MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp
TradeRoutes-Patch-HelgenReborn.esp
Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - LFfGM.esp
Hearthfire Cellar Entrances.esp
Project AHO - USSEP Patch.esp
Delphine's Map Reveals Dragon Mounds.esp
DBM_ArtifactsofBoethiah_Patch.esp
DBM_NewTreasureHunt_Patch.esp
DBM_DwemerSpectres_Patch.esp
DBM_ktWeaponPackSE_Patch.esp
DBM_TeldrynSerious_Patch.esp
JKs New Gnisis Cornerclub - Skyrim Underground Patch.esp
DBM_Clockwork_Patch.esp
JKs Bee and Barb - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
Sepolcri - Cutting Room Floor patch.esp
Undriel_QRR_Clockwork_Patch.esp
JKs Bee and Barb - Elgrims Elixirs - Skyrim Underground - Brotherhood of Old Patch.esp
JKs Blue Palace - Mystic Condenser Patch.esp
JKs Dragonsreach - AI Overhaul.esp
JKs Understone Keep - GAR patch.esp
JKs Understone Keep - Skyrim Underground Patch.esp
JKs Dragonsreach - Mystic Condenser.esp
DBM_JKDragonsreach_Patch.esp
DBM_DepthsofSkyrim_Patch.esp
DBM_ForgottenCity_Patch.esp
DBM_Moonpath_Patch.esp
Moon and Star - USSEP Patch.esp
Falskaar - Fast Travel.esp
JRFalskaarPatch.esp
Falskaar - Bug Fixes.esp
MAS Books Fix.esp
ProjectAHO - StartWhenYouWant.esp
JKs Mistveil Keep - Mystic Condenser Patch.esp
MC - ICoW Patch.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
Apocalypse - Balance Patch.esp
RuinsEdge.esp
TOK_CWI_Patch.esp
DBM_IA_Patch.esp
DBM_HA_Patch.esp
JKs Bannered Mare - SPO Patch.esp
DBM_JKBannered_Patch.esp
[xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition - AI Overhaul - Cutting Room Floor.esp
[xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition - Immersive Weapons - AI Overhaul.esp
AI Overhaul - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp
AoSR_AoB_DBMPatch.esp
JKs Winking Skeever - USSEP Patch.esp
JKs Winking Skeever - SPO Lux patch.esp
JKs Winking Skeever - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
StaffOfSheogorath.esp
DBM_StaffofSheogorath_Patch.esp
DBM_DGA_Patch.esp
DBM_RuinsEdge_Patch.esp
DBM_YCMDarkBrotherhood_Patch.esp
Arctic - Immersive Sounds Compendium Patch.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Improved Traps Patch.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - WACCF and LotD Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_AOS Patch.esp
DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp
Auri - USSEP Patch.esp
Campfire - Balance Patch.esp
Campfire - WACCF Patch.esp
Cutting Room Floor - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp
DawnguardArsenal_WACCF-ACE_Patch.esp
Deadly Dragons - Diverse Dragons Collection.esp
Deadly Dragons - Wyrmstooth.esp
ExcitableSubsOStim.esp
Fertility Mode - RSChildren.esp
FNIS.esp
ForcefulTongue - AoS Patch.esp
ForcefulTongue - Durnehviir Resurrected Patch.esp
Forgotten City - USSEP Patch.esp
MAS - USSEP Dock Fix.esp
Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp
High Poly NPCs - WheelsOfLull.esp
Immersive College of Winterhold - Typo Patch.esp
JKs Angelines Aromatics - USSEP Patch.esp
JKs Angelines Aromatics - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Arcadias Cauldron - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Arnleif and Sons - LOTD Patch.esp
JKs Arnleif and Sons - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Arnleif and Sons - SPO Patch.esp
JKs Arnleif and Sons - Treasure Hunt Patch.esp
JKs Bee and Barb - Embers XD Patch.esp
JKs Bee and Barb - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
JKs Belethors General Goods - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Bits and Pieces - LOTD Patch.esp
JKs Bits and Pieces - USSEP Patch.esp
JKs Bits and Pieces - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Blue Palace - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Blue Palace - Royal Armory Patch.esp
JKs Blue Palace - Amulets of Skyrim patch.esp
JKs Blue Palace - BGCollectables Patch.esp
JKs Candlehearth Hall - Embers XD Patch.esp
JKs Candlehearth Hall - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Candlehearth Hall - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
JKs Candlehearth Hall - SPO Patch.esp
JKs Dragonsreach - BGCollectables Patch.esp
JKs Dragonsreach - Konahrik Accoutrements Patch.esp
JKs Dragonsreach - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Drunken Huntsman - USSEP Patch.esp
JKs Elgrims Elixirs - CRF Patch.esp
JKs Elgrims Elixirs - Embers XD Patch.esp
JKs Elgrims Elixirs - SPO Patch.esp
JKs Hags Cure - Embers XD Patch.esp
JKs Hags Cure - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Mistveil Keep - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Mistveil Keep - BGCollectables Patch.esp
JKs Mistveil Keep - Embers XD Patch.esp
JKs Palace of the Kings - GAR Patch.esp
JKs Palace of the Kings - Embers XD Patch.esp
JKs Palace of the Kings - BGCollectables Patch.esp
JKs Palace of the Kings - Cloaks Patch.esp
JKs Palace of the Kings - SPO Patch.esp
JKs Palace of the Kings - USSEP Patch.esp
JKs Pawned Prawn - LOTD Patch.esp
JKs Pawned Prawn - Embers XD Patch.esp
JKs Pawned Prawn - SPO Patch.esp
JKs Radiant Raiment - USSEP Patch.esp
JKs Radiant Raiment - Cloaks Patch.esp
JKs Ragged Flagon - Embers XD Patch.esp
JKs Ragged Flagon - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Ragged Flagon - USSEP Patch.esp
TGBC.esp
JKs Riverwood Trader - BGCollectables patch.esp
JKs Sadris Used Wares - ACE Patch.esp
JKs Sadris Used Wares - LOTD Patch.esp
JKs Silver-Blood Inn - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Silver-Blood Inn - Embers XD Patch.esp
JKs Silver-Blood Inn - LOTD Patch.esp
JKs Silver-Blood Inn - The Brotherhood of Old Patch.esp
JKs Sleeping Giant Inn - Embers XD Patch.esp
JKs Sleeping Giant Inn - AI Overhaul SSE Patch.esp
JKs Sleeping Giant Inn - SPO Patch.esp
JKs Temple of Kynareth - BGCollectables patch.esp
JKs Temple of Kynareth - Konahrik Accoutrements patch.esp
JKs Temple of Kynareth - Oblivion Artifacts patch.esp
JKs Temple of Mara - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKs Temple of Mara - SPO Patch.esp
JKs Temple of Mara - TBoO Patch.esp
JKs Temple of Mara - Oblivion Artifacts Patch.esp
JKs Understone Keep - USSEP patch.esp
JKs Understone Keep - Amulets of Skyrim patch.esp
JKs Understone Keep - Embers XD Patch.esp
JKs Understone Keep - Mystic Condenser patch.esp
JKs Understone Keep - AI Overhaul patch.esp
JKs White Phial - Embers XD Patch.esp
JKs White Phial - SPO Patch.esp
JKs White Phial - Zims Immersive Artifacts Patch.esp
JKs Winking Skeever - Alternate Start Mods Patch.esp
JKs Winking Skeever - Brotherhood of Old Patch.esp
JKs Winking Skeever - Thieves Guild Requirements Patch.esp
JRCRFPatch.esp
OAlign.esp
OAroused.esp
oComfort.esp
OCum.esp
ODefeat.esp
ONights.esp
OPrivacy.esp
ORomance.esp
OProstitution.esp
OSearch.esp
OSound.esp
OStrap.esp
OVirginity.esp
Ovoice.esp
Quaint Raven Rock - USSEP Patch.esp
Quaint Raven Rock - WACCF Consistency Patch.esp
Qw_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp
[xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition - Immersive Weapons - Cutting Room Floor.esp
[xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition - Immersive Weapons - AI Overhaul - Cutting Room Floor.esp
Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
RSChildren + AI Overhaul Patch.esp
Qw_RSChildren_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_ISC Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_RSChildren Patch.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - Hoth Patch.esp
RS Children - WACCF Consistency Patch.esp
RSC BoS Patch.esp
RSC CRF Patch.esp
RSC Falskaar Patch.esp
RSC Forgotten City Patch.esp
RSC HR Patch.esp
RSC MoonAndStar Patch.esp
RSC WT Patch.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SDA Campfire Patch.esp
SDA RDO Patch.esp
SDA Wintersun Patch.esp
SkyTEST - WeirdChamp Animals Fix.esp
SoaS.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
TCIY_CRF_Patch.esp
TCIY_Wintersun_Patch.esp
TESL-LS-AddonApoc.esp
TESL-LS-AddonLOTD.esp
TESL-LS-AddonMain.esp
TESL-LS-Tweaks.esp
The Brotherhood of Old - RS Children Patch.esp
The Choice is Yours - WACCF Consistency Patch.esp
Tools of Kagrenac - Forgotten City Patch.esp
Vigilant CBBE Patch.esp
WACCF - CRF Consistency Patch.esp
WACCF_KonahriksAccoutrements.esp
WD03OTrainers.esp
Wintersun - CRF Patch.esp
Wintersun - ZIA Patch.esp
WoW Dragon Mounds CTD Fix - Wyrmstooth Patch.esp
YOT - Apocalypse.esp
YOT - Campfire.esp
YOT - CoWI.esp
YOT - Cutting Room Floor.esp
YOT - Falskaar.esp
YOT - Growl.esp
YOT - Helgen Reborn.esp
YOT - Odin.esp
YOT - Immersive Sounds Odin.esp
YOT - LOTD.esp
YOT - Project AHO.esp
YOT - Quaint Raven Rock.esp
YOT - Summermyst.esp
YOT - Triumvirate.esp
YOT - Vigilant.esp
YOT - Wintersun.esp
YOT - Wyrmstooth.esp
Trade & Barter.esp
DBM_TradeBarter_Patch.esp
TradeRoutes-Patch-TradeAndBarter.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp
DBM_CCOR_Patch.esp
AetheriumSwordsnArmor_CCOR_Patch.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation_CCOR_Patch.esp
CCOR_Campfire_Patch.esp
Cloaks_CCOR_Patch.esp
DBM_CloaksofSkyrim_Patch.esp
DBM_CoSRetexture_Patch.esp
Immersive Weapons_CCOR_Patch.esp
PrvtI_HeavyArmory_CCOR_Patch.esp
CCOR_JSwords_Patch.esp
CCOR_JSwords_PrvtI_HeavyArmory_Patch.esp
DawnguardArsenal_CCOR_Patch.esp
Dr_Bandolier_CCOR_Patch.esp
Guard's Armor Replacer - CCOR Consistency.esp
SL01AmuletsSkyrim_CCOR_Patch.esp
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
TESL-LS-AddonSacrosanct.esp
TESL-LS-VanillaLSRemover.esp
YOT - Sacrosanct.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Misc Dialogue Edits.esp
More Dialogue Options.esp
DBM_RelicHunter.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp
JKs New Gnisis Cornerclub - Alternate Start patch.esp
SkyRem Patch.esp
MissingEZs_AllExteriors.esp
Lux.esp
Lux - Books of Skyrim.esp
Lux - JK's Winking Skeever patch.esp
Lux - Cuting Room Floor.esp
Lux - Dungeons Revisited Patch.esp
Lux - Forgotten City.esp
Lux - JK's Angelines Aromatics patch.esp
Lux - JK's Arcadia's Cauldron patch.esp
Lux - JK's Arnleif and Sons Trading Company patch.esp
Lux - JK's Bannered Mare patch.esp
Lux - JK's Bee and Barb patch.esp
Lux - JK's Belethor's General Goods patch.esp
Lux - JK's Bits and Pieces patch.esp
Lux - JK's Blood Inn patch.esp
Lux - JK's Blue Palace patch.esp
Lux - Legacy of the Dragonborn patch.esp
Lux - JK's Candlehearth Hall patch.esp
Lux - JK's Dragonsreach patch.esp
Lux - JK's Drunken Huntsman patch.esp
Lux - JK's Elgrims Elixirs patch.esp
Lux - JK's Mistveil Keep patch.esp
Lux - JK's New Gnisis Cornerclub patch.esp
Lux - JK's Palace of Kings patch.esp
Lux - JK's Pawned Prawn patch.esp
Lux - JK's Radiant Raiment patch.esp
Lux - JK's Ragged Flagon patch.esp
Lux - JK's Riverwood Trader patch.esp
Lux - JK's Sadris Used Wares patch.esp
Lux - JK's Sleeping Giant inn patch.esp
Lux - JK's Temple of Kynareth patch.esp
Lux - JK's Temple of Mara patch.esp
Lux - JK's The Hag's Cure patch.esp
Lux - JK's Understone Keep patch.esp
Lux - JK's Warmaidens patch.esp
Lux - JK's White Phial patch.esp
Lux - Legacy of the Dragonborn - Aetherium Weapons.esp
Lux - Legacy of the Dragonborn - Wheels of Lull.esp
Lux - Live Another Life patch.esp
Lux - Moon and Star patch.esp
Lux - The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns patch.esp
Lux - Tools of Kagrenac patch.esp
LUX 3010 BRIGHT UP.esp
Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp
ENB Light.esp
Qw_Luminosity_CastleVolkihar Patch.esp
Qw_Luminosity_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp
Qw_Luminosity_CRF Patch.esp
Atlas Map Markers.esp
SmashedPatch.esp
patch_AtlasMM_DelphineMap.esp
NoGrassINCaves.esp
Synthesis.esp
DynDOLOD.esp
Occlusion.esp

 

 

Posted
17 minutes ago, JerseyWalrus said:

Hello,

 

I want to start by saying I never updated to 1.6.x, I've stayed on 1.5.97 of Skyrim SE with SKSE version 2.0.20 by just launching through MO2 and disabling automatic updates in Steam. In October I had followed the SkyRem modding guide that enables over 700 plugins and ran it without a problem, but this time as I build a large mod loadout myself, I get a cap of 500 plugins.

 

No matter how many are ESMs or ESPs or ESLs, that the game won't load properly once I cross 500 plugins in my load order. At 500, I get a normal Alternate Start character creation. If I have 501 plugins, Alternate Start won't load and I get the default Helgen start. After about 600 plugins, starting a new game just leaves the Skyrim logo on screen with the music playing and no loading taking place. I can even open console during this time.

 

I don't believe it's a specific mod doing it as the new game will load properly once the plugin count is 500 or below, no matter which mods are loaded or not as long as all together I stay under 501. I haven't reached the 255 esp limit since ESM + ESP only make up 186 plugins, it's the rest of the ESL-flagged ESPs that bring it over the limit.

 

MO2, Loot, report nothing wrong and SSEdit (using the Check for Errors function) doesn't throw out anything that seems to point to a specific reason.

 

Is there anyone that can help out with this?

 

 

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How many BSAs are there? I seem to recall that there is a limit on how many archives Skyrim will load.

 

My setup runs "fine" with 1300 plugins, but the majority of those are just conflict resolving patches so there are only 377 archives.

 

Also, just making sure: you have SSE Engine Fixes installed right?

Posted
31 minutes ago, markdf said:

 

How many BSAs are there? I seem to recall that there is a limit on how many archives Skyrim will load.

 

My setup runs "fine" with 1300 plugins, but the majority of those are just conflict resolving patches so there are only 377 archives.

 

Also, just making sure: you have SSE Engine Fixes installed right?

There's about 200 bsa's loaded which sounds like a lot lol

 

SSE Engine Fixes is installed, Pre-AE versions too

 

  

23 minutes ago, urban nomad nome said:

yes, in LE is the same, even if you got the esp deactivated, if theres 500 esp in your data folder your game will get an infinity loading screen or someting like that

The majority of them are flagged as ESL however. Only 160 are actual esp. In any case the SkyRem mod guide has over 700 plugins active for it and I used to run all of that before.

Posted
32 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Weeee, merge Luke, merge!

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Never merged a single file ? But never got over 400 mods too

12 minutes ago, JerseyWalrus said:

The majority of them are flagged as ESL however. Only 160 are actual esp. In any case the SkyRem mod guide has over 700 plugins active for it and I used to run all of that before.

Did you flag them yourself? That in itself can sometimes cause issues. Not everything should be an Esl even if it's logical possible. I even had one Outfit mod with 5 pieces of clothing that would let my game crash if it's where loaded esl sometime ago

Posted
6 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

Never merged a single file ? But never got over 400 mods too

I just thought the topic was missing a clueless LE user that runs around like a headless chicken after seeing all those patches to scream ?:

MERGE, MEEEERGE aaaahhh why don't you merge ?

 

unless... there is a limit to esl like to esp on LE (around 508 active and deactivated esp in skyrim/data) :classic_ph34r:

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6 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

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Never merged a single file ? But never got over 400 mods too

Did you flag them yourself? That in itself can sometimes cause issues. Not everything should be an Esl even if it's logical possible. I even had one Outfit mod with 5 pieces of clothing that would let my game crash if it's where loaded esl sometime ago

Almost all of them are flagged by the author, It's not one specific mod that's doing it from what I find. At the bottom of my MO2 mod list, the left side, are all the mod compatibility patches. I can activate one patch folder that has 12 ESL-flagged esp in it, or activate 12 different patch folders that only have one ESL-flagged esp in each of them, and the game will run and load fine so long as I'm under 500 total plugins

Posted
8 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

I just thought the topic was missing a clueless LE user that runs around like a headless chicken after seeing all those patches to scream ?:

MERGE, MEEEERGE aaaahhh why don't you merge

?

 

8 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

unless... there is a limit to esl like to esp on LE (around 508 active and deactivated esp in skyrim/data) :classic_ph34r:

Not saying that you are wrong, just saying.. It's not really that important on SE ? you can have over a 1000 ESL in theory of course. Having an Eye out for every single out there to not run into conflicts and confusion what we might have with OP (might have. My own LO is a history of try and error until i got it right.. and mess it up almost every Tuesday again xD)

 

So in absolute theory, an intelligent planed out Modlist in SE don't need a single merged plugin to have a big number of mods.

 

 

 

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Hey, how ya doin? I am a Vortex user, but they guy I am conversing with is an MO2 user with 900+ mods in his game. I think you need to talk to him, he is on LL, his screen name is "Bluegunk". I think he can help you, good luck.

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