JerseyWalrus Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 Hello, I want to start by saying I never updated to 1.6.x, I've stayed on 1.5.97 of Skyrim SE with SKSE version 2.0.20 by just launching through MO2 and disabling automatic updates in Steam. In October I had followed the SkyRem modding guide that enables over 700 plugins and ran it without a problem, but this time as I build a large mod loadout myself, I get a cap of 500 plugins. No matter how many are ESMs or ESPs or ESLs, that the game won't load properly once I cross 500 plugins in my load order. At 500, I get a normal Alternate Start character creation. If I have 501 plugins, Alternate Start won't load and I get the default Helgen start. After about 600 plugins, starting a new game just leaves the Skyrim logo on screen with the music playing and no loading taking place. I can even open console during this time. I don't believe it's a specific mod doing it as the new game will load properly once the plugin count is 500 or below, no matter which mods are loaded or not as long as all together I stay under 501. I haven't reached the 255 esp limit since ESM + ESP only make up 186 plugins, it's the rest of the ESL-flagged ESPs that bring it over the limit. MO2, Loot, report nothing wrong and SSEdit (using the Check for Errors function) doesn't throw out anything that seems to point to a specific reason. Is there anyone that can help out with this? Load Order Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp Vanilla Script MicroOptimizations.esl Skyrim Project Optimization - Full ESL Version.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm OSA.esm FISS.esp SurvivalControlPanel.esp BetterContainerControls.esl AHZmoreHUD.esl Landscape and Water Fixes.esp MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm Cathedral - 3D Mountain Flowers.esp BetterDynamicAsh-DisableRefs.esm DisarmingTrapsIsDangerous.esl SmoothCam.esl MajesticMountains_Moss.esp BlackreachSporesSE.esl AKSkyrimUnderground.esm Dwarfsphere.esp High Poly Head.esm Resources - The Great Cities.esp JSwords.esm Campfire.esm Falskaar.esm Skyrim Fixes Collection.esp Vigilant.esm WheelsOfLull.esp iWant Widgets.esl Fertility Mode.esm Lux - Master plugin.esm * snow elf waifu.esp Wyrmstooth.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm DynDOLOD.esm SkyUI_SE.esp Hearthfires Houses Building Fix.esp HD Lods SSE.esp SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp AOS_ISC_Integration.esp SimplyBalanced.esp SimplyBalanced_OptionalEnchantmentFix.esp SkyRem - Emili.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp RDO Updated.esp The Flora of Skyrim Trees SSE.esp DepthsOfSkyrim.esp FTF_Core.esp SRC_ERS.esp SRC - All In One.esp HMB TCC.esp High Poly NPC Overhaul - Resources.esp High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition.esp MCMHelper.esp Extended UI.esp RaceMenu.esp AMatterOfTime.esp UIExtensions.esp iHUD.esp shalidor's maze fixes.esp Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp Folkvangr - Grass and Landscape Overhaul.esp Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp Immersive Weapons.esp AI Overhaul.esp Cathedral Weathers.esp Veydosebrom Regions.esp Cathedral - 3D Pine Grass.esp Better Apiary.esp Improved Traps.esp NoPhysicsDamage.esp RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp Serana Dialogue Edit.esp AudibleNPCDialogues.esp TrueDirectionalMovement.esp EVGConditionalIdles.esp Draw2.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp Cathedral Weather Godrays.esp CathedralWeatherMCM.esp StormLightning.esp WondersofWeather.esp BlendedRoads.esp HD Stone Quarry and Clay Deposits SE.esp DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp JK's Understone Keep.esp DealingwithDaedra.esp Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp Skyrim Reborn - Whiterun Hold.esp Helgen Reborn.esp TFoS Large Juniper trees in the Reach SSE.esp Undriel_QuaintRavenRock.esp JK's Blue Palace.esp JK's The Winking Skeever.esp DungeonsRevisited.esp Skyrim Reborn - Hjaalmarch Hold.esp JK's Arnleif and Sons Trading Company.esp YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul.esp [xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition - AI Overhaul.esp ESFCompanions.esp SeranaDialogAddon.esp Settlements Expanded SE.esp Draugr Upgrades and Improvements.esp Missing Apprentices CRF Quest Fix.esp NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp Sidequests of Skyrim.esp SSoB.esp KRI_DBMDelayPatch.esp JK's Mistveil Keep.esp Artifacts_Revised.esp SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp MoonAndStar_MAS.esp Undeath.esp Nordic Ruins of Skyrim.esp ForcefulTongue.esp OwnCivilWar.esp SpiceOfLife - OrcLStrongholds.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp Point The Way.esp moonpath.esp JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp Embers XD.esp DBM_ISC_Patch.esp ZIA_Complete Pack.esp QW's Grass Patch.esp UndeathFixes.esp MajesticMountains.esp Falskaar - SkyTEST Patch.esp Moonpath Music - Sky and Lighting fix - merged.esp AHO - Skytest Patch.esp Undeath - No Auto Quest Start.esp JS Dragon Claws AE - Legacy of the Dragonborn.esp AlchemyAdjustments.esp OStim.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp Thieves Guild Requirements.esp The Brotherhood of Old.esp TheChoiceIsYours.esp Calcelmo Has Standards.esp CFTO.esp JK's New Gnisis Cornerclub.esp JK's The Pawned Prawn.esp Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp JKs Whiterun.esp JK's Riverwood.esp JKs Riften.esp TSR_TeldrynSerious.esp Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp Run For Your Lives.esp CollegeEntry.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp JK's Temple of Mara.esp JK's Palace of the Kings.esp JK's The Hag's Cure.esp Vigilant Voiced.esp JK's Dragonsreach.esp JKs Windhelm.esp JK's Silver-Blood Inn.esp JK's Elgrims Elixirs.esp JK's Bee and Barb.esp JK's Riverwood Trader.esp JK's Radiant Raiment.esp Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp Cloaks.esp Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul.esp PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp Tel Mithryn.esp Sepolcri.esp JK's The Bannered Mare.esp JK's White Phial.esp [xPatch] High Poly NPC Overhaul - 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merryMalfunctioning Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, JerseyWalrus said: Hello, I want to start by saying I never updated to 1.6.x, I've stayed on 1.5.97 of Skyrim SE with SKSE version 2.0.20 by just launching through MO2 and disabling automatic updates in Steam. In October I had followed the SkyRem modding guide that enables over 700 plugins and ran it without a problem, but this time as I build a large mod loadout myself, I get a cap of 500 plugins. No matter how many are ESMs or ESPs or ESLs, that the game won't load properly once I cross 500 plugins in my load order. At 500, I get a normal Alternate Start character creation. If I have 501 plugins, Alternate Start won't load and I get the default Helgen start. After about 600 plugins, starting a new game just leaves the Skyrim logo on screen with the music playing and no loading taking place. I can even open console during this time. I don't believe it's a specific mod doing it as the new game will load properly once the plugin count is 500 or below, no matter which mods are loaded or not as long as all together I stay under 501. I haven't reached the 255 esp limit since ESM + ESP only make up 186 plugins, it's the rest of the ESL-flagged ESPs that bring it over the limit. MO2, Loot, report nothing wrong and SSEdit (using the Check for Errors function) doesn't throw out anything that seems to point to a specific reason. Is there anyone that can help out with this? Load Order Reveal hidden contents # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp Vanilla Script MicroOptimizations.esl Skyrim Project Optimization - Full ESL Version.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm OSA.esm FISS.esp SurvivalControlPanel.esp BetterContainerControls.esl AHZmoreHUD.esl Landscape and Water Fixes.esp MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm Cathedral - 3D Mountain Flowers.esp BetterDynamicAsh-DisableRefs.esm DisarmingTrapsIsDangerous.esl SmoothCam.esl MajesticMountains_Moss.esp BlackreachSporesSE.esl AKSkyrimUnderground.esm Dwarfsphere.esp High Poly Head.esm Resources - The Great Cities.esp JSwords.esm Campfire.esm Falskaar.esm Skyrim Fixes Collection.esp Vigilant.esm WheelsOfLull.esp iWant Widgets.esl Fertility Mode.esm Lux - Master plugin.esm * snow elf waifu.esp Wyrmstooth.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm DynDOLOD.esm SkyUI_SE.esp Hearthfires Houses Building Fix.esp HD Lods SSE.esp SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp Immersive Sounds - 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CCOR Consistency.esp SL01AmuletsSkyrim_CCOR_Patch.esp Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp TESL-LS-AddonSacrosanct.esp TESL-LS-VanillaLSRemover.esp YOT - Sacrosanct.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Misc Dialogue Edits.esp More Dialogue Options.esp DBM_RelicHunter.esp Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp JKs New Gnisis Cornerclub - Alternate Start patch.esp SkyRem Patch.esp MissingEZs_AllExteriors.esp Lux.esp Lux - Books of Skyrim.esp Lux - JK's Winking Skeever patch.esp Lux - Cuting Room Floor.esp Lux - Dungeons Revisited Patch.esp Lux - Forgotten City.esp Lux - JK's Angelines Aromatics patch.esp Lux - JK's Arcadia's Cauldron patch.esp Lux - JK's Arnleif and Sons Trading Company patch.esp Lux - JK's Bannered Mare patch.esp Lux - JK's Bee and Barb patch.esp Lux - JK's Belethor's General Goods patch.esp Lux - JK's Bits and Pieces patch.esp Lux - JK's Blood Inn patch.esp Lux - JK's Blue Palace patch.esp Lux - Legacy of the Dragonborn patch.esp Lux - JK's Candlehearth Hall patch.esp Lux - JK's Dragonsreach patch.esp Lux - JK's Drunken Huntsman patch.esp Lux - JK's Elgrims Elixirs patch.esp Lux - JK's Mistveil Keep patch.esp Lux - JK's New Gnisis Cornerclub patch.esp Lux - JK's Palace of Kings patch.esp Lux - JK's Pawned Prawn patch.esp Lux - JK's Radiant Raiment patch.esp Lux - JK's Ragged Flagon patch.esp Lux - JK's Riverwood Trader patch.esp Lux - JK's Sadris Used Wares patch.esp Lux - JK's Sleeping Giant inn patch.esp Lux - JK's Temple of Kynareth patch.esp Lux - JK's Temple of Mara patch.esp Lux - JK's The Hag's Cure patch.esp Lux - JK's Understone Keep patch.esp Lux - JK's Warmaidens patch.esp Lux - JK's White Phial patch.esp Lux - Legacy of the Dragonborn - Aetherium Weapons.esp Lux - Legacy of the Dragonborn - Wheels of Lull.esp Lux - Live Another Life patch.esp Lux - Moon and Star patch.esp Lux - The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns patch.esp Lux - Tools of Kagrenac patch.esp LUX 3010 BRIGHT UP.esp Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp ENB Light.esp Qw_Luminosity_CastleVolkihar Patch.esp Qw_Luminosity_ICoWinterhold Patch.esp Qw_Luminosity_CRF Patch.esp Atlas Map Markers.esp SmashedPatch.esp patch_AtlasMM_DelphineMap.esp NoGrassINCaves.esp Synthesis.esp DynDOLOD.esp Occlusion.esp How many BSAs are there? I seem to recall that there is a limit on how many archives Skyrim will load. My setup runs "fine" with 1300 plugins, but the majority of those are just conflict resolving patches so there are only 377 archives. Also, just making sure: you have SSE Engine Fixes installed right?
JerseyWalrus Posted February 19, 2022 Author Posted February 19, 2022 31 minutes ago, markdf said: How many BSAs are there? I seem to recall that there is a limit on how many archives Skyrim will load. My setup runs "fine" with 1300 plugins, but the majority of those are just conflict resolving patches so there are only 377 archives. Also, just making sure: you have SSE Engine Fixes installed right? There's about 200 bsa's loaded which sounds like a lot lol SSE Engine Fixes is installed, Pre-AE versions too 23 minutes ago, urban nomad nome said: yes, in LE is the same, even if you got the esp deactivated, if theres 500 esp in your data folder your game will get an infinity loading screen or someting like that The majority of them are flagged as ESL however. Only 160 are actual esp. In any case the SkyRem mod guide has over 700 plugins active for it and I used to run all of that before.
Gukahn Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: Weeee, merge Luke, merge! Never merged a single file ? But never got over 400 mods too 12 minutes ago, JerseyWalrus said: The majority of them are flagged as ESL however. Only 160 are actual esp. In any case the SkyRem mod guide has over 700 plugins active for it and I used to run all of that before. Did you flag them yourself? That in itself can sometimes cause issues. Not everything should be an Esl even if it's logical possible. I even had one Outfit mod with 5 pieces of clothing that would let my game crash if it's where loaded esl sometime ago
donttouchmethere Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gukahn said: Never merged a single file ? But never got over 400 mods too I just thought the topic was missing a clueless LE user that runs around like a headless chicken after seeing all those patches to scream ?: MERGE, MEEEERGE aaaahhh why don't you merge ? unless... there is a limit to esl like to esp on LE (around 508 active and deactivated esp in skyrim/data)
JerseyWalrus Posted February 19, 2022 Author Posted February 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gukahn said: Never merged a single file ? But never got over 400 mods too Did you flag them yourself? That in itself can sometimes cause issues. Not everything should be an Esl even if it's logical possible. I even had one Outfit mod with 5 pieces of clothing that would let my game crash if it's where loaded esl sometime ago Almost all of them are flagged by the author, It's not one specific mod that's doing it from what I find. At the bottom of my MO2 mod list, the left side, are all the mod compatibility patches. I can activate one patch folder that has 12 ESL-flagged esp in it, or activate 12 different patch folders that only have one ESL-flagged esp in each of them, and the game will run and load fine so long as I'm under 500 total plugins
Gukahn Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: I just thought the topic was missing a clueless LE user that runs around like a headless chicken after seeing all those patches to scream ?: MERGE, MEEEERGE aaaahhh why don't you merge ? 8 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: unless... there is a limit to esl like to esp on LE (around 508 active and deactivated esp in skyrim/data) Not saying that you are wrong, just saying.. It's not really that important on SE ? you can have over a 1000 ESL in theory of course. Having an Eye out for every single out there to not run into conflicts and confusion what we might have with OP (might have. My own LO is a history of try and error until i got it right.. and mess it up almost every Tuesday again xD) So in absolute theory, an intelligent planed out Modlist in SE don't need a single merged plugin to have a big number of mods.
BDNelson Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 Hey, how ya doin? I am a Vortex user, but they guy I am conversing with is an MO2 user with 900+ mods in his game. I think you need to talk to him, he is on LL, his screen name is "Bluegunk". I think he can help you, good luck.
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