Will AAF for Fallout 4 ever be as simplified as Sexlab is for Skyrim

[dontylook]

I wasn't too sure where to put this, so if this is the wrong place someone let me know so I can just delete this thread and post in the proper section of the forum. On to the topic at hand! Earlier I decided to go ahead and play Fallout 4 for the first time in months. I prefer to launch my game through vortex. Before I launched however,  I notice the number of mods I had active vs Skyrim which has its own suite of LL mods installed. The number from Fallout 4 was noticeably larger in comparison. After jogging my own mind I remember having to track down patches, creature rigs, animation packs, and body types to get AAF LL mods to work. I just remember getting AAF to work the way I wanted it to, to be a pain in the backside. In addition to the limited number of animation packs versus what Skyrim has available to it, I just didn't want to touch it if I could help it. 

 

Is the process to install LL mods for AAF/Fallout 4 ever going to be as streamlined as it is for Skyrim? I just don't recall as many issues setting up sexlab as I have had with AAF. Is it because AAF is newer and the kinks haven't been worked out yet by any chance? The question is more directed toward modders but I have no issue hearing others 2 cents on the topic.

[Mistress Jade]

I would suggest looking at this and you can judge for yourself.

 

 

[dontylook]

8 hours ago, Mistress Jade said:

I would suggest looking at this and you can judge for yourself.

 

 

That's what I used when I decided to use LL mods for FO4. It was helpful and did ease the process of modding FO4. It was still noticeably more difficult than Skyrim modding in comparison.

[Mistress Jade]

ok well sorry i wasnt helpful!

[dontylook]

4 hours ago, Mistress Jade said:

ok well sorry i wasnt helpful!

I appreciate it regardless. So thank you.

[Saya Scarlett]

On 1/24/2022 at 2:15 PM, dontylook said:

It was still noticeably more difficult than Skyrim modding in comparison.

 

As someone who has modded both games EXTENSIVELY, this is a lie.

 

Skyrim is much more of an absolute mess compared to FO4 and getting some NSFW stuff to work properly is an absolute nightmare. I've never had to read through pages and threads and months of conversations to get something to work and dig up obscure ass patches/tweaked mods or files as i have (and many other people have) for Skyrim.

 

You don't even need to do shit like FNIS. How is Skyrim easier than FO4 when you have an extensively detailed guide with every version listed, mod order, incompatibilities and the like all laid out before you to follow step by step? Because if you do, if you REALLY do read, slowly and paying attention.. shit. just. works.

 

I swear, I'm sick and tired of people saying that Skyrim's easier when it really isn't. ?

You're just used to it. That's not the same thing.

[dontylook]

6 hours ago, Saya Scarlett said:

 

How is Skyrim easier than FO4

I'm not tracking down patches for bodies or creature rigs like I am for FO4. I haven't had many issues with FNIS in comparison than I've had with some animation packs and creature rigs and patches for additional "body parts" I just never had to track down anything for skyrim animation packs. It was already taken care of.

[skybird]

I didnt play fo4 few years and started it again dec 2021. And ofcourse modding like hell and yes hell it is  I knew this before I started counting for at least a week of searching mods + installing + all the mess but there is now at least a good manual for aaf and after I did all they told aaf worked out of the box and that was way easier then skyrim used to be. 

 

If want compare Skyrim with Fallout 4 we need some one who never played these 2 games and let them mod it. Personally I think skyrim is more difficult for modding but it has tons more options and the modding scene was/is way more active. 

 

With skyrim I had problems with anything for years while this fo4 runs rather smooth. (this is subjective, after playing fo4 few months I start missing skyrim again as it has way more interesting mods)

 

I checked something for fun while on it:

File folder fallout 4: Size: 80.1 Gb - 64.068 files

File folder skyrim se: Size: 169 Gb - 190.183 files

So yeah when looking at this I guess bit normal my skyrim had more troubles but today it runs good (not updated it in 6 months as I like it as it is)

 

I use wrye bash for installing, not the easiest but I know it so well now that I dont want to use anything else.

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20032

 

[dontylook]

I've had the opposite expedience. Though in fairness I run a lean suite of mods with Skyrim in comparison to Fallout 4. My only beef with fallout 4 was tracking down patches for animation packs. I just never had to do that with Skyrim. 

[Saya Scarlett]

On 1/28/2022 at 2:30 PM, dontylook said:

I'm not tracking down patches for bodies or creature rigs like I am for FO4. I haven't had many issues with FNIS in comparison than I've had with some animation packs and creature rigs and patches for additional "body parts" I just never had to track down anything for skyrim animation packs. It was already taken care of.

 

There is nothing to track down for AAF to work. All you need is right here.

 

 

[ANGRYWOLVERINE]

uh no

Nothing against the people who have worked on AAF and other modules but the game just doesn't imo itself to that degree of player  control.

 

and I hope we can to quote the desire demon from Dragon Age keep it civil.

 

Fallout 4 is much harder imo to mod that Skyrim is. Silly Bethesda and their Anniversary screwups have made SSE Skyrim a lot more difficult to mod than it should be however.

Edited January 31, 2022 by ANGRYWOLVERINE

[dontylook]

On 1/31/2022 at 12:11 PM, Saya Scarlett said:

 

There is nothing to track down for AAF to work. All you need is right here.

 

 

Communication error on my part here I guess. AAF works, but its been the animation packs I've had to track down updates/patches to. Below are two examples of what I am talking about.

 

[dontylook]

On 1/31/2022 at 6:09 PM, ANGRYWOLVERINE said:

keep it civil.

I'm leaning toward walking away at this point. I didn't expect this post to stir anything up. Is this just a sensitive subject or something? Did I say something wrong?

[nueshi]

On 2022/1/28 at PM6点29分, Saya Scarlett said:

 

作为对这两款游戏进行过广泛 修改的人，这是一个谎言。

 

与《FO4》相比，《Skyrim》绝对是一团糟，让一些 NSFW 的东西正常工作绝对是一场噩梦。我从来没有像我（和许多其他人）在《天际》中那样，必须通读页面、线程和几个月的对话才能让某些东西发挥作用，并挖掘晦涩难懂的补丁/调整的模组或文件。

 

你甚至不需要做像 FNIS 这样的事情。当你有一份详尽的指南，其中列出了每个版本、模组顺序、不兼容性等等，让你一步步遵循时，《天际》怎么会比《FO4》更容易呢？因为如果你这样做，如果你真的认真地阅读，慢慢地并集中注意力......狗屎。只是。作品。

 

我发誓，我厌倦了人们说《天际》更容易，但事实并非如此。？

你只是习惯了。那不是同一件事。

yes. FNIS made me crazy.