[Scripts] How to check if NPC is a mage or necromancer?

[Nymra]

Ok, so I am checking for Vampires via a Formlist with all the Vampire Races (which might actually NOT catch vampires added by mods using a different race I guess?)

 

BUT:
Is there a way to check if an NPC that is a normal race, nord etc. is a Mage or a Necromancer? (like for example if a bandit group has a mage in it, or if the human next to the skeletons is a necromancer)

I thought about checking for stats like Mana or equiped spells, but that seems not very accurate to me. 

 

Via a keyword or something I missed entirely?? Anybody has a reliable method, that ideally also works for NPC added by other mods? 

or are all necromancers in a certain faction for example? while I guess bandit mages will be in bandit faction like other bandits  

[Seijin8]

21 minutes ago, Nymra said:

Ok, so I am checking for Vampires via a Formlist with all the Vampire Races (which might actually NOT catch vampires added by mods using a different race I guess?)

 

BUT:
Is there a way to check if an NPC that is a normal race, nord etc. is a Mage or a Necromancer? (like for example if a bandit group has a mage in it, or if the human next to the skeletons is a necromancer)

I thought about checking for stats like Mana or equiped spells, but that seems not very accurate to me. 

 

Via a keyword or something I missed entirely?? Anybody has a reliable method, that ideally also works for NPC added by other mods? 

or are all necromancers in a certain faction for example? while I guess bandit mages will be in bandit faction like other bandits  

 

I'd guess the best way (though not necessarily a great way) would be to check the class of the actorbase.  There are relatively few "mage" classes used by bandits and warlocks, so adding those to a formlist for quick comparison might be an option.

 

Depending on how performant you want it to be, another class-based option would be a quest looking for actors of a particular class within the area.  Could use a chain of "OR" conditions for the classes.

 

Neither method seems great, tbh.

[Scrab]

If something is a vampire you simply check for the "Vampire" keyword. 420 times faster and easier than looking up 69 races and works with mods adding custom vampire races

 

If something is a necromancer: Only necromancers have a raise dead spell. A "necromancer" isnt a defined expression or object, its just somethin you identify a NPC as, if that NPC raises other (dead) NPC; - so you simply check if that someone is a Necromancer if he has those (subjectively defined) character traits associated with what your (subjective) opinion considers a Necromancer

Dont argue with the subjective part pls, Im just trying to get the point across that the game doesnt know what a Necromancer is

 

[Nymra]

6 minutes ago, Scrab said:

If something is a vampire you simply check for the "Vampire" keyword. 420 times faster and easier than looking up 69 races and works with mods adding custom vampire races

 

aye, thx! 

 

6 minutes ago, Scrab said:

If something is a necromancer: Only necromancers have a raise dead spell. A "necromancer" isnt a defined expression or object, its just somethin you identify a NPC as if that NPC raises other (dead) NPC; - so you simply check if that someone is a Necromancer if he has those (subjectively defined) character traits associated with what your (subject) opinion considers a Necromancer

Dont argue with the subjective part pls, Im just trying to get the point across that the game doesnt know what a Necromancer is

 

yeah, I was afraid that it is basically like that, meaning the game does not know. checking for the spell then (always something new to learn), nice  

 

[Nymra]

42 minutes ago, Seijin8 said:

 

I'd guess the best way (though not necessarily a great way) would be to check the class of the actorbase.  There are relatively few "mage" classes used by bandits and warlocks, so adding those to a formlist for quick comparison might be an option.

 

Depending on how performant you want it to be, another class-based option would be a quest looking for actors of a particular class within the area.  Could use a chain of "OR" conditions for the classes.

 

Neither method seems great, tbh.

 

ah, forgot about classes and actorbase. will try that, thx.

I just need to check the actors I already have in my quest if a mage is present. 

[ChrisHPZ]

Hi Nymra, hope you're doing well. I just remembered the following mod which might provide the information you're looking for. If this doesn't work, all I can suggest is to look over your mod based NPC's in the Creation Kit. Hope this helps, and continued thanks for Naked Defeat ?

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19250

[Nymra]

19 hours ago, ChrisHPZ said:

Hi Nymra, hope you're doing well. I just remembered the following mod which might provide the information you're looking for. If this doesn't work, all I can suggest is to look over your mod based NPC's in the Creation Kit. Hope this helps, and continued thanks for Naked Defeat ?

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19250

 

aah, I think mfg console is the LE counterpart. almost forgot about this, yeah, great idea to just also do some checks in game. thx!