smoker life longer

[Emily]

Even if every article antagonize smoking is bad for health. It seems smokers actually live longers and die harder despite the habit and addiction. Perhaps it do good stimulating the metabolism and reducing stress if smoker smokes regulary.

 

In short, is smoking unhealthy?

 

Side question:

Is it true that smoker could suffer a hang over or moody if they don't smoke?

 

Lastly, what's a 'no smoking area' really means in smokers prespective?

 

No offense meant of course. As non smoker it's really hard to comprehend an active smoker behaviour even when they are smoking \ not smoking.

 

Many Thanks in advance.

[gregathit]

No.  Generally speaking smokers don't live longer than non smokers.  There are of course exceptions to every rule as there are many other variables that can end ones life.

 

2 second google search for an article from a medical news website: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/9703.php

[lordofthedread]

I am a smoker for the past 25 years, I recently swapped to electronic cigarrette for health reasons and after 3 month I already feel the positive effects of not smoking regular tobacco (and all the junk they pout in cigarrettes) so it is indeed unhealthy.

 

As every addiction if you dont have your dose you will suffer side effects of lack (not sure thats how you say it in English) because dont fool yourself, nictoine as itself is a drug and all other thing contained in cigarrettes are even worse and get you addicted pretty badly. Unlike heroin or harder drugs you dont feel sick, shake or have similar symptoms but you are very prone to be grumpy, have mood swings and so on if you lack your dose.

 

A non smoker area mean that you will have to go elsewhere, it is very annoying as a smoker to always have to think to "where would I be able to smoke?" but thats yet another downside of your addiction.

 

Hope that answered your questions.

[Jerbsinator]

Lots of fat people live long lives, it doesn't change the fact that obesity is a high cause of heart attacks, other major illnesses and or death. Same deal with smoking, some people might fall through the cracks but most people that shit is gonna fuck you up.

[Emily]

@jerbsinator.

'Most ppl that shit gonna fuck you up'?

 

Sorry, Emily US.english is a bit crude.

Does that Mean: most ppl who do, made themselves miserable?

[nonusnomeni]

In short, is smoking unhealthy?

I remember back in mid '80 some research from some British medical institute where they concluded fact then 5 min of work of any combustion engine produce toxins equivalent to 17000 cigarets, that research today is buried and forgotten, same as electric car...

so question for a car drivers: how many peoples you are kill by your engine?

my grandpa was smoker since he was 12, he was died 5 weeks before 100 birthday but he was never live close to any industry, refinery, ironwork, or chemical

also he was eat a lot of cheese and fish and he was dink a lot of vine(antioxidants)...

 

Is it true that smoker could suffer a hang over or moody if they don't smoke?

well lets say this like you really don't want to ask me anything third and four day of abstinence

 

Lastly, what's a 'no smoking area' really means in smokers prespective?

classical BS spin

 

let make some questions

how many peoples are died from lung cancer in last 500y?

when was mass dying from lung cancer was started?

when was mass use of cars was started?

when was mass use of plastic was started?

when was mass industrialization begin?

 

and to resume for me cigaret is unhealthy just much as junk food or plastic bottle or refinery in neighboring street...

[Emily]

Nonusnomeni, Let emily in.

 

What happen in the 3 and 4 day absent?

[nonusnomeni]

edge of nerve breakdown (females have similar experience every month)

and i do that every 2-3 months because i don't like to be addicted to anything or anyone so i test my self...

2 weeks without cigaret; good, month without cigaret; done...

[Astaroth-Lite]

This thread is going to be one of those threads where the majority comes in with the same super-edgy rhetoric and then declares him or herself the "winner", isn't it?

[Emily]

Nope, of course not.
There is an employee quitting on his smoke and been on his tantrum. The guy is kinda over sensitive and perform his job badly. It made emily worries.

When emily ask her father & brother about this topic. They just keep dodging it!

Emily need to understand smokers. Especially the over sensitive collague beside her right now. To Understand his mentality so emily could respond him appropiately. Hopefully the topic might be helpful to none smokers if they are at the same situation, Understand it from the smoker side.

 

If you are somewhat offended, Emily sorry.

[Rayblue]

2 packs a day = virtually suicide

4 sticks a day = slow pain

e-cigarette with 6mcg of nicotine in 5-6ml of flavored liquid = safe side

 

Seriously it depends on how much cigarettes are consumed in a single day, the type of smokes in use, nicotine levels, and you also have to include other lifestyle factors such as diet, emotional well-being, physical activity, family history of illnesses such as heart disease etc, and stress levels.

[Emily]

Emily been browsing for detox and there are actually a plenty of way to remove the toxin, from double down breathing exercise and lung remedies.

.... but there more emily browse them, There are articles and webpages that give an impression of preying on the smoker instead.

 

like this one: http://www.lungdetoxification.com/?hop=vivquek

 

[Rayblue]

You know, my pet peeve with the way some anti-smoking advocates say is that... They talk like religious fundamentalists, and whenever I hear someone who quits smoking, he/she sounds as if came clean through a tent revival.

[nonusnomeni]

You know, my pet peeve with the way some anti-smoking advocates say is that... They talk like religious fundamentalists, and whenever I hear someone who quits smoking, he/she sounds as if came clean through a tent revival.

 

smoking killing

where did you get that

it was said in anti smoking campaign

god exist

where did you get that

it was written in Bible

[Rayblue]

That's why I have a vape right now, Mr. Tinfoil.

[kingkong]

killing or not killing !     good effect or bad effect !      willing to stop or not !                 who cares when one is smoking

 

when the addiction bites you     this is drug    this has nothing to do with good or bad job !    or winner, looser !

 

after few hours without a cigarette you start to think about it and feels edgy      after a day or two you just think about it constantly and have to force yourself to concentrate on something else.    and you became an explosif ball ! (specialy the first 3 weeks of stopping).

 

when you have finished the packet   sometimes you just think about it and it became a fixation. you can focus just on it. you need to smoke one (you run to a shop, you ask people around )     in a middle of the night you look at the ashtray and think about assembling a cigarette from this junk you do not care anymore you need this shit.

 

(if your colleague intrigs you just buy him/her a drink and have some discussion to understand what she/he is)

[Veta]

 

You know, my pet peeve with the way some anti-smoking advocates say is that... They talk like religious fundamentalists, and whenever I hear someone who quits smoking, he/she sounds as if came clean through a tent revival.

 

smoking killing

where did you get that

it was said in anti smoking campaign

god exist

where did you get that

it was written in Bible

 

 

 

Without trying to be offensive that was a stupid comment , smoking kills not because it is written in the anti smoking campaign but because tobacco contains Nicotine , Carbon monoxide and Carcinogens which are basically drugs , poison and cancer  .

[nonusnomeni]

 

 

You know, my pet peeve with the way some anti-smoking advocates say is that... They talk like religious fundamentalists, and whenever I hear someone who quits smoking, he/she sounds as if came clean through a tent revival.

 

smoking killing

where did you get that

it was said in anti smoking campaign

god exist

where did you get that

it was written in Bible

 

 

 

Without trying to be offensive that was a stupid comment , smoking kills not because it is written in the anti smoking campaign but because tobacco contains Nicotine , Carbon monoxide and Carcinogens which are basically drugs , poison and cancer  .

 

 

http://joedawson.org/Interests/SmokersRights/Essays/issues1.html

A ten pound bag of charcoal produces as much smoke (and harmful chemicals) as 160 packs of cigarettes. Are you going to quit barbecuing? Probably not. Yet the slightest whiff of tobacco smoke gives many anti-smokers apoplectic fits. Are they being hysterical? Read on and decide for yourself.

http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/campaign/scientists-dispel-ASH-junk-science.html

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/smoking/T65OAU236DIGTHSR8

http://leffingwell.com/download/Leffingwell%20-%20Tobacco%20production%20chemistry%20and%20technology.pdf

http://www.forces.org/evidence/carol/carol8.htm

http://suburra.com/blog/2011/09/08/asinine-anti-smoking-lies/

 

http://www.mayormikeapoem.net/pdffiles/liesbehindthesmokingbans.pdf

 

"Nicotine , Carbon monoxide and Carcinogens which are basically drugs , poison and cancer  ."

yes but in what amount and what amount is dangerous for health that is the question what scares anti-smoking activist  

 

and far away i am saying smoking is healthy but it wasn't so deadly

you wanna proof if was so deadly there will not be any live smoker

 

and btw this anti smoker campaign remind me on early '80 anti gay campaign in my country

"it is unnatural, it is against god, gays have 4x bigger chance of brain cancer then normal...

 

and for the end one joke

nonsmoker: are you smoke

smoker: last 30 years

ns; did you know the you are burn into smoke money for new ferrari

s: hmm and you don't smoke

ns: nope

s: so where is your ferrari motherfckr

 

 

http://www.quotesparade.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/anewstudyshows.jpg

 

[SomeOtherGuy]

Honestly cigarettes are mainly bad because of the chemicals that they soak the tabacco in to make it actually addictive(tabacco is hardly addictive), but taking tabacco in anyform regularly is never good (biochemically) as it is basically a poison. That being said theres no harm in smoking infrequently and properly(tabacco should not be inhaled into the lungs contrary to how they are generally smoked, just ask a cigar smoker, or even an aboriginal shaman). The native american shamans used tabacco as a ritual tool both for purification with smoke(also representing prayers ascending when in the pipe, sometimes simillar to  inscence in eastern countries) and the also drank tabacco juice to produce visions, as it is a mild poison it produced hallucinations, wherein the trained subconscious to relay information to the conscious through various representation. Animals, elements, etc..

 

 

Anyway...thats just my(current) understanding on the subject. I'd think unchecked habitual use of anything will likely be damaging to health at some point.

[lordofthedread]

Nicotine is addictive but it is contained in many other products (not only tobacco), mostly vegetables like eggplant, tomato, potato and red peppers in quite small quantity in front of tobacco tho.

 

Also your system can get rid of traces of nicotine in 1 to 2 weeks, sadly to get rid of other chemicals contained in cigarretes it will take a lot longer.

 

Here comes the scary part :

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_additives_in_cigarettes

 

Smoking tobacco right off the plant is way less harmful in fact (and tastes way better), planting tobacco plants as an individual is forbidden in most countries (same as planting pot).

[Emily]

Interesting, Emily always thought nicotine were the bad guys. But the industrial competition and tobacco politics is the worst.

 

Not to mention the tax.

 

... Damn, now it give a sad impression. So the modern smoker are trend victims to keep the cigarette industry alive. It's fathers day and emily's papa is a smoker.

[lordofthedread]

Yes you can guess why an industry that is working toward killing its customers is so successful? Maybe because it is not as deadly as what they say.

 

It is not healthy and it will indeed cause major health issues over time.

 

Want to please your father and help him with his smoking habit? I strongly suggest offering him a vape system, here some information about vape if you are interested :

 

http://www.economist.com/news/business/21573985-challenge-big-tobacco-vape-em-if-you-got-em

http://vapersplace.com/vp-live-vape-team

http://www.gnet.org/vaping-smoking-of-the-future/