Crash Problems with clicking the Clean system button in Sexlab

[Hatoc123]

Hello I have been directed over here from the Sexlab help zone since it doesnt seem to be a problem with sexlab itself

I am in breezehome and when I click the button I am in 3rd person(like you are meant to be) an earlier clean save works fine.

Is there someone who understands what these craash logs may be talking about I know they are mostly talking about arms but I'm

not sure what mod it may be talking about the only thing that I have changed recently is the body type for Bjin NPCs and them only.

Yes I have run FNIS

 

Sorry its alot of crash logs mo2 wasnt showing me the logs at one point so alot of tests were run

Crash_2021_11_3_4-6-17.txt Crash_2021_11_3_4-12-37.txt Crash_2021_11_3_4-18-27.txt Crash_2021_11_3_4-32-57.txt Crash_2021_11_4_15-19-0.txt Crash_2021_11_3_3-40-52.txt Crash_2021_11_3_3-48-27.txt Crash_2021_11_3_3-54-36.txt Crash_2021_11_4_15-35-2.txt

[alex77r4]

1 hour ago, Hatoc123 said:

Sorry its alot of crash logs mo2 wasnt showing me the logs at one point so alot of tests were run

 

The crash show in PapyrusUtil.dll:

Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FFD03EF9EF7 (PapyrusUtil.dll+9EF7) on thread 2780!

Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FFD0F319EF7 (PapyrusUtil.dll+9EF7) on thread 15156!

 

Then, first verify the correct installation of PapyrusUtil.

 

If you are using Sexlab 1.63 Beta 8 download and install the version 3.9 from Nexus and overwrite the version included in Sexlab.

If you are using Sexlab 1.63 Beta 9 be sure the PapyrusUtil from Sexlab Beta 9 is NOT overwrited by other mod.

 

More clear, Beta 8 include an OLD version of PapyrusUtil and you must upgrade it to 3.9

But Beta 9 have a NEW version of PapyrusUtil that has not been published in Nexus. You must preserve it.

 

Additionally, the crash happen when access NiNodes:

                                                                                                                              
  [  81]    NiNode(Name: `NPC L Hand [LHnd]`)
  [ 217]    NiNode(Name: `CME L Forearm [LLar]`)
  [ 367]    NiNode(Name: `NPC L Forearm [LLar]`)
  [ 509]    NiNode(Name: `CME L UpperArm [LUar]`)

 

That can be a problem with the skeleton. Be sure you have XPMSSE 4.80, reinstall it, select Physics skeleton and not allow other mod overwrite XPMSE except the specific mods that must make it, like MNC or ABC.

 

[Hatoc123]

4 hours ago, alex77r4 said:

 

The crash show in PapyrusUtil.dll:

Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FFD03EF9EF7 (PapyrusUtil.dll+9EF7) on thread 2780!

Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FFD0F319EF7 (PapyrusUtil.dll+9EF7) on thread 15156!

 

Then, first verify the correct installation of PapyrusUtil.

 

If you are using Sexlab 1.63 Beta 8 download and install the version 3.9 from Nexus and overwrite the version included in Sexlab.

If you are using Sexlab 1.63 Beta 9 be sure the PapyrusUtil from Sexlab Beta 9 is NOT overwrited by other mod.

 

More clear, Beta 8 include an OLD version of PapyrusUtil and you must upgrade it to 3.9

But Beta 9 have a NEW version of PapyrusUtil that has not been published in Nexus. You must preserve it.

 

Additionally, the crash happen when access NiNodes:

                                                                                                                              
  [  81]    NiNode(Name: `NPC L Hand [LHnd]`)
  [ 217]    NiNode(Name: `CME L Forearm [LLar]`)
  [ 367]    NiNode(Name: `NPC L Forearm [LLar]`)
  [ 509]    NiNode(Name: `CME L UpperArm [LUar]`)

 

That can be a problem with the skeleton. Be sure you have XPMSSE 4.80, reinstall it, select Physics skeleton and not allow other mod overwrite XPMSE except the specific mods that must make it, like MNC or ABC.

 

The only papyrus I have enabled now is sexlab beta 9s one and I have XPMSE at the very highest in priority in mo2s load order. I hope that brings some clarification 

 

Note: Cleaning the save the making another save on top of that save fixes the problem but I considering that its already been cleaned before I dont think its a perment fix

[Hatoc123]

6 hours ago, Hatoc123 said:

The only papyrus I have enabled now is sexlab beta 9s one and I have XPMSE at the very highest in priority in mo2s load order. I hope that brings some clarification 

 

Note: Cleaning the save the making another save on top of that save fixes the problem but I considering that its already been cleaned before I dont think its a perment fix

Yep another crash I'll put the log down below

Crash_2021_11_5_0-0-22.txt

[alex77r4]

30 minutes ago, Hatoc123 said:

Yep another crash I'll put the log down below

Crash_2021_11_5_0-0-22.txt 51.82 kB · 1 download

 

Same as the others, exactly in the same address again about NiNodes:

Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FFD20E29EF7 (PapyrusUtil.dll+9EF7) on thread 15384!

 

Possible relevant objects (4)
{
  [  65]    TESNPC(Name: `Yohanna Bringly`, FormId: 00000007, File: `Skyrim.esm`)
  [  65]    PlayerCharacter(FormId: 00000014, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Yohanna Bringly`, FormId: 00000007, File: `Skyrim.esm`))
  [ 405]    NiNode(Name: `CME L Shoulder`)
  [ 510]    BSTriShape(Name: `Material.000001_sheath_dae.dds_1`)
}

 

But i remember a crash in SexLab related to PapyrusUtil in Legendary that have some relation to save and load the game. Is this. I not know if can be the same problem but you can try the same solution.

 

[Hatoc123]

10 hours ago, alex77r4 said:

 

Same as the others, exactly in the same address again about NiNodes:

Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FFD20E29EF7 (PapyrusUtil.dll+9EF7) on thread 15384!

 

Possible relevant objects (4)
{
  [  65]    TESNPC(Name: `Yohanna Bringly`, FormId: 00000007, File: `Skyrim.esm`)
  [  65]    PlayerCharacter(FormId: 00000014, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Yohanna Bringly`, FormId: 00000007, File: `Skyrim.esm`))
  [ 405]    NiNode(Name: `CME L Shoulder`)
  [ 510]    BSTriShape(Name: `Material.000001_sheath_dae.dds_1`)
}

 

But i remember a crash in SexLab related to PapyrusUtil in Legendary that have some relation to save and load the game. Is this. I not know if can be the same problem but you can try the same solution.

 

Considering how many times I have loaded the same save to see whether it was a one time thing or not it is sadly not a matter of just loading the same save again

[alex77r4]

3 hours ago, Hatoc123 said:

Considering how many times I have loaded the same save to see whether it was a one time thing or not it is sadly not a matter of just loading the same save again

Have you make some test in a New Game?

Maybe, your actual save game is broken or have some strange problem. Try ussing an older save game.

[Hatoc123]

This is already a new save I'll try again I suppose I just absolutely hate setting all the settings all the time only to have to redo do them

 

Edit: nevermind apparently new c;lean saves are now crashing as well on just installing it(this didnt happen before this is new) the only other thing that I can think that I changed recently is that I got bikina armours working correctly since before there were some problems with it not showing up properly on some npcs but I got it fixed by using a different skeleton for tewoba armours so I use CBBE 3BBB SMP for Tewoba and TBD SMP for TAWOBA SMP armours.

 

If you are wondering why I'm doing that its because tewoba is still being transfered to TBD

[Hatoc123]

2 hours ago, Hatoc123 said:

This is already a new save I'll try again I suppose I just absolutely hate setting all the settings all the time only to have to redo do them

 

Edit: nevermind apparently new c;lean saves are now crashing as well on just installing it(this didnt happen before this is new) the only other thing that I can think that I changed recently is that I got bikina armours working correctly since before there were some problems with it not showing up properly on some npcs but I got it fixed by using a different skeleton for tewoba armours so I use CBBE 3BBB SMP for Tewoba and TBD SMP for TAWOBA SMP armours.

 

If you are wondering why I'm doing that its because tewoba is still being transfered to TBD

For some reason moving CBPC fixed the problem on the save for a bit but I just tried again and it crashed I have attached the crash log

Crash_2021_11_5_17-37-50.txt

[alex77r4]

2 hours ago, Hatoc123 said:

For some reason moving CBPC fixed the problem on the save for a bit but I just tried again and it crashed I have attached the crash log

Crash_2021_11_5_17-37-50.txt 53.08 kB · 2 downloads

 

Again crash on PapyrusUtil when access NiNodes.

 

Seems that really you have some problem with the skeleton and, when the clear process of Sexlab try access the nodes, you get the crash. I presume you can get a similar crash if you try alter your body with the sliders in racemenu. Probably, if you change the sex of your Player character to MAN the clear process of Sexlab works whitout any problem.

 

Something in the body model is not correct, maybe the skeleton, or the armors or some problem in HDT or SMP.

[Hatoc123]

3 hours ago, alex77r4 said:

 

Again crash on PapyrusUtil when access NiNodes.

 

Seems that really you have some problem with the skeleton and, when the clear process of Sexlab try access the nodes, you get the crash. I presume you can get a similar crash if you try alter your body with the sliders in racemenu. Probably, if you change the sex of your Player character to MAN the clear process of Sexlab works whitout any problem.

 

Something in the body model is not correct, maybe the skeleton, or the armors or some problem in HDT or SMP.

I will try changing to a man since the clean save I'm running off does start as a male I'll report back after

 

Report: Nope still crashing I've popped down the latest log if that helps at all

Crash_2021_11_5_23-21-53.txt

[alex77r4]

8 hours ago, Hatoc123 said:

the only other thing that I can think that I changed recently is that I got bikina armours working correctly since before there were some problems with it not showing up properly on some npcs but I got it fixed by using a different skeleton for tewoba armours so I use CBBE 3BBB SMP for Tewoba and TBD SMP for TAWOBA SMP armours.

 

Maybe the problem is related to that skeleton... Or maybe some of the bikini armors not have the correct skeleton...

 

Practically, every armor have the body and the skeleton included inside the armor nif. When you equip the armor the game discard the actual body, skeleton and armor and replace it entirely with the models that come from the new armor. Maybe using nude body or using another armor the crash not happen.

[Hatoc123]

17 hours ago, alex77r4 said:

 

Maybe the problem is related to that skeleton... Or maybe some of the bikini armors not have the correct skeleton...

 

Practically, every armor have the body and the skeleton included inside the armor nif. When you equip the armor the game discard the actual body, skeleton and armor and replace it entirely with the models that come from the new armor. Maybe using nude body or using another armor the crash not happen.

Im actully having trouble running cleanup now since sometimes I start it it says it starts but never does anything else although in the one time recently I did get it to run this was the result I'm not sure what to do whether to try starting yet another new save update to the new github version of sexlab(granted I cant do that if I cant clean up the save in the first place) I've inclosed the one log I have manged to get once please advise.

 

Edit: starting on a new clean save that someone uploaded and the install and clean still work on that granted cant say for how long since I normally works on a completly clean save(for a bit)

Crash_2021_11_6_16-40-27.txt

[alex77r4]

1 hour ago, Hatoc123 said:

Im actully having trouble running cleanup now since sometimes I start it it says it starts but never does anything else although in the one time recently I did get it to run this was the result I'm not sure what to do whether to try starting yet another new save update to the new github version of sexlab(granted I cant do that if I cant clean up the save in the first place) I've inclosed the one log I have manged to get once please advise.

 

Edit: starting on a new clean save that someone uploaded and the install and clean still work on that granted cant say for how long since I normally works on a completly clean save(for a bit)

Crash_2021_11_6_16-40-27.txt 51.57 kB · 1 download

 

I read again all yours messages and i have two things that i can't understand:

First of all... Why are you making the Clean SexLab? Why you need execute it?

And second... Why are you cleaning your save game with ReSaver? What have your save game to need clean it?

 

Apart of all that... Seems that your CTD not have any relation to SexLab or PapyrusUtil... Is evident that the crash happen in (PapyrusUtil.dll+9EF7) and the DLL is included inside SexLab and the crash show when you run the Clean SexLab....

But I'm thinking SexLab and PapyrusUtil not have any relation with your CTD.

 

Simply because SexLab not access the NiNodes while make the Clean System = Reset Sexlab. Really is a process to stop and restart the sexlab quest, the related script, the configuration and, of course, not need access the NiNodes to make it. SexLab only use NiOverride to change the scale of the actors when run the animation. Not use NiOverride to make the Clean System = Reset Sexlab.

Then, i'm thinking your CTD is caused by other mod that detect the stop and start of SexLab and make a process that is causing the CTD.

 

Additionally, the XPMSSE skeleton can be correct and the skeleton in the bikini armors can be correct because the problem can be related to the exact version of the DLL of RaceMenu, called SKEE that include NiOverride, that is used to access the NiNodes that show in:

Possible relevant objects (4)
{
  [  65]    TESNPC(Name: `Yohanna Bringly`, FormId: 00000007, File: `Skyrim.esm`)
  [  65]    PlayerCharacter(FormId: 00000014, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Yohanna Bringly`, FormId: 00000007, File: `Skyrim.esm`))
  [ 403]    NiNode(Name: `Default Bow and Quiver`)
  [ 504]    BSTriShape(Name: `Material.000001_sheath_dae.dds_1`)
}

 

First, verify that your version of RaceMenu match the version of the game and the version of SKSE.

Second, disable mods with scripts that use PapyrusUtil, RaceMenu or NiOverride to try find what is that other mod that is causing the CTD.

 

[Hatoc123]

52 minutes ago, alex77r4 said:

 

I read again all yours messages and i have two things that i can't understand:

First of all... Why are you making the Clean SexLab? Why you need execute it?

And second... Why are you cleaning your save game with ReSaver? What have your save game to need clean it?

 

Apart of all that... Seems that your CTD not have any relation to SexLab or PapyrusUtil... Is evident that the crash happen in (PapyrusUtil.dll+9EF7) and the DLL is included inside SexLab and the crash show when you run the Clean SexLab....

But I'm thinking SexLab and PapyrusUtil not have any relation with your CTD.

 

Simply because SexLab not access the NiNodes while make the Clean System = Reset Sexlab. Really is a process to stop and restart the sexlab quest, the related script, the configuration and, of course, not need access the NiNodes to make it. SexLab only use NiOverride to change the scale of the actors when run the animation. Not use NiOverride to make the Clean System = Reset Sexlab.

Then, i'm thinking your CTD is caused by other mod that detect the stop and start of SexLab and make a process that is causing the CTD.

 

Additionally, the XPMSSE skeleton can be correct and the skeleton in the bikini armors can be correct because the problem can be related to the exact version of the DLL of RaceMenu, called SKEE that include NiOverride, that is used to access the NiNodes that show in:

Possible relevant objects (4)
{
  [  65]    TESNPC(Name: `Yohanna Bringly`, FormId: 00000007, File: `Skyrim.esm`)
  [  65]    PlayerCharacter(FormId: 00000014, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Yohanna Bringly`, FormId: 00000007, File: `Skyrim.esm`))
  [ 403]    NiNode(Name: `Default Bow and Quiver`)
  [ 504]    BSTriShape(Name: `Material.000001_sheath_dae.dds_1`)
}

 

First, verify that your version of RaceMenu match the version of the game and the version of SKSE.

Second, disable mods with scripts that use PapyrusUtil, RaceMenu or NiOverride to try find what is that other mod that is causing the CTD.

 

Yes the version of race matches my version of Skyrim se.

 

As why I keep testing to make sure that  clean up works is because all the way at the beginning sexlab hormones wanted me to use cleanup after it automatically changed race but it crashed thus this entire saga has started.

 

I don’t continue playing after I test whether cleaning is still working I go back to the save before that cleaning.

 

as for this other mod you mention you have a really good point you do but also wouldn’t the crash logger reference that mod causing it? Not trying to be a dick just curious.

 

Sexlabs papyrus is at the moment the only papyrus I use and xmp Skelton has priority on overwriting everything.

 

As for doing the thing of turning everything off then on slowly that is a good idea but considering that it takes roughly 6,7 hours before the cleanup crashes it’s just not a very practical solution for me.(not ruling this out will do it as a last resort)

 

Thank you for your help and support and most importantly time. I have started a brand new clean save again(definition of insanity I know) and we shall see what happens

[Hatoc123]

6 hours ago, Hatoc123 said:

Im actully having trouble running cleanup now since sometimes I start it it says it starts but never does anything else although in the one time recently I did get it to run this was the result I'm not sure what to do whether to try starting yet another new save update to the new github version of sexlab(granted I cant do that if I cant clean up the save in the first place) I've inclosed the one log I have manged to get once please advise.

 

Edit: starting on a new clean save that someone uploaded and the install and clean still work on that granted cant say for how long since I normally works on a completly clean save(for a bit)

Crash_2021_11_6_16-40-27.txt 51.57 kB · 0 downloads

Well that wasnt a surprise crashed again in the new save this time after 6 hours decided to check the cleanup button and it crashed the game it did work a while back

 

maybe theres something thats easy to point out in this crashlog

 

Crash_2021_11_6_23-16-53.txt

[Hatoc123]

Still having this crash though I'm guessing that everone has given up trying to solve this problem now due to the silence I've heard though If you want to give it a shot heres the latest crash log though its as similar as the rest

Crash_2021_11_13_17-1-18.txt

Crash_2021_11_13_17-12-1.txt

[Hatoc123]

Yup I think people have given up trying to solve this great this is great....

 

guess I'll continue playing with something thats broken then Yay fun fun fun

I thought my crash logs might actually point to something that someone would go oh hey

I know what that problem is its means you have done this incorrectly or oh you just need to change this are thats not compatible with that.

but no the best advice is to switch everything off and spend 7 hours in the game then switch a mod on then spend those same 7 hours again and again and again which while its Sound advice its just not practical

[Hatoc123]

24 minutes ago, Hatoc123 said:

Yup I think people have given up trying to solve this great this is great....

 

guess I'll continue playing with something thats broken then Yay fun fun fun

I thought my crash logs might actually point to something that someone would go oh hey

I know what that problem is its means you have done this incorrectly or oh you just need to change this are thats not compatible with that.

but no the best advice is to switch everything off and spend 7 hours in the game then switch a mod on then spend those same 7 hours again and again and again which while its Sound advice its just not practical

For those having the same problem waiting for everthing to load in then making another save then loading into that save and waiting for it to load then clicking the clean system button does seem to work though I dont know whether this is a perment workaround.

[viterra]

I' have a same problem and fix is absurd. When need to init Sexlab i use official papyrus dll from nexsus. then save and switch to papyrus from sexlab.

[Sailing Rebel]

Out of interest, where is Skyrim installed, and what are you using to installed mods?

 

This could conceivably be an issue with Windows UAC, in which case the installation locations would need to be moved out of protected areas of the filesystem.

 

Exceptions must be added to any antivirus app including Windows Security for the folders containing the game, all modding tools and the MO2 instance folder or Vortex Staging folder. After adding exclusions, it may be necessary to reinstall some tools or mods containing DLLs or EXEs to clear any tagging or sandboxing applied by the app.

[kouso]

I have this problem here is how I tracked it to sex lab

1- saves seem to corrupt after having sex

2-pressed clean sex lab button, game crashed

3-in fallrim tools when I try to select the corrupted save I get an (error while reading papyrus section crash)

 

i have found no fix yet please help