Does animated HDT pussy with bijin work only for naked body?

[wattbatt]

I installed this mod with vortex by clicking on the .zip, it loaded and asked a ton of things i didn't really understand, but my goal was to modify the pussy of the bijin warmaidens mod; I am also using some skimpy armor mods, so i checked the girls from under and it doesn't seem changed.

But before i delve deeper i dont want to have fallen in a simple misunderstanding: does this mod work only when characters are naked? Like, the naked parts of the body when wearing skimpy armor are overridden by the armor mod and doesn't show the AP HDT pussy mod?

[donttouchmethere]

4 hours ago, wattbatt said:

does this mod work only when characters are naked? Like, the naked parts of the body when wearing skimpy armor are overridden by the armor mod and doesn't show the AP HDT pussy mod?

No camel toe for you unless your PC wears underwear that come with a camel toe.

 

See! You don't see the AIO-P because there is an AIO-P replacer over it! Damn you legging body replacers!

Spoiler

 

It's like that:

naked body = AIO-P visible

rare - armor that also allows parts of the body to load below it = AIO-P visible

normal - armor replaces body = AIO-P not visible, because replaced by the meshes of the armor

[safado]

@wattbatt

 

In Gamebrio games, like all versions of Skyrim, all equip able items are armor by game engine standard.  That includes "skin naked" body.  The equip able armor is defined by its entries in the form Armor Addon (signature ARMA) and form Armor (signature ARMO).  The entries define the mesh file to load and its meta data to define it in the game.  

Armors that have the "not-part-of-Gamebrio" feature of "HDT-PE(physics-effects/engine) like pussy lips collision needs meshes with custom bond to a Custom Skeleton that has the pussy nodes.  The game engine will likely crash if a mesh is bonded to a node that the skeleton does not have. 

The effect is independent by mesh, if a skin naked mesh has it but the "iron armor" mesh doesn't you will not have the effect when the "iron armor" mesh replaces the skinnaked mesh.  You need to customize the "iron armor" to include the custom bond to the skeleton pussy nodes.  The HDT-SMP has a similar concept but different implementation.  

 

The answer is your PC/NPC naked skin body has the feature defined in the mesh, but the clothed armor does not.   To make it look and have same features you need to add it to the mesh yourself or find a packaged mod that provided it.  

 

The look of the body in clothed armor is part of the armor and not the naked body mesh.  When the mesh occupy slot 32 it replaces the whole torso/legs/arms defined by skin naked armor (default naked body mesh).   All slot 32 armor that "shows" some skin need to include an integrated skin mesh because it replaces the naked body (skinnaked armor). It will look like the author of the armor intended and not like the author of the skin naked mesh wanted, unless both meshes done by same author or used same body base (CBBE, UNP, etc).  You may find armor meshes that has not arms or legs because the author defined it as slot 32 but did not integrate the partitions for arms and legs (its rare but it happens). 

 

 

[wattbatt]

2 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

 

It's like that:

naked body = AIO-P visible

rare - armor that also allows parts of the body to load below it = AIO-P visible

normal - armor replaces body = AIO-P not visible, because replaced by the meshes of the armor

 

Uhh so the short answer is yes ? I installed "BD UUNP armor replacer (for CBBE)" , sometimes in bodyslide studio those armors have some kind of "no texture" panties, that's the "rare" case you are talking of here? So in the bodyslide studio the armors that don't have that kinda "no texture" panties won't show the AIOP unless the character gets naked?

[donttouchmethere]

1 hour ago, wattbatt said:

Uhh so the short answer is yes ?

Yes. Safado made it a bit clearer.

Basically the armor replaces the body, especially armors in slot 32 will replace multiple body parts.

The armor in slot 32 would need to copy exactly all theoretically visible parts of the naked body.

 

1 hour ago, wattbatt said:

sometimes in bodyslide studio those armors have some kind of "no texture" panties, that's the "rare" case you are talking of here?

I'm sorry I confused you with the "rare case". Some armors come with multiple armor parts that not use the slot 32.

The other problem is like Safado said, any HDT effect of the HDT Pussy would need to be copied to the armor and connected to the skeleton.

I had 2 armors that did that and it was a mess >.<

 

1 hour ago, wattbatt said:

So in the bodyslide studio the armors that don't have that kinda "no texture" panties won't show the AIOP unless the character gets naked?

yes, usually anything naked on a slot 32 armor is a lookalike prop like the camel toe underwear.

 

1 hour ago, wattbatt said:

"BD UUNP armor replacer (for CBBE)"

Those armors usually all are slot 32 armors so they won't allow the HDT-Pussy, because they replaced it.

 

2 hours ago, safado said:

In Gamebrio games, like all versions of Skyrim, all equip able items are armor by game engine standard.  That includes "skin naked" body.

read this one again.

basically your naked body with the attached AIO-P is also a from of armor. So wearing a non naked armor will replace the naked body one.

[donttouchmethere]

I think the best chance to run around half naked in armor are bikini armors that allow to wear armor parts in many body slots, while keeping some body slots free.

[safado]

1 hour ago, wattbatt said:

 

Uhh so the short answer is yes ? I installed "BD UUNP armor replacer (for CBBE)" , sometimes in bodyslide studio those armors have some kind of "no texture" panties, that's the "rare" case you are talking of here? So in the bodyslide studio the armors that don't have that kinda "no texture" panties won't show the AIOP unless the character gets naked?

 

For BD armors meshes or body equip meshes have the "Animated Pussy" (skeleton pussy nodes controlled by physic simulation/fake engine) need to have the feature added to it. 

Armors in slot 32 are not over the naked body, instead they replace the "naked" body.  If it shows a body underneath is because is part of the armor.  Other slots behave differently.  

 

About the panty, Yes removing the panty texture will make the armor's panty partition Mesh invisible because is a separate section of the mesh for that armor collection.  I use SkyrimSE BD armor replacer for CBBE 3BBB Amazing Body v2 (3BAv2). In that version it also includes a ZAP panty feature. 

In my version of BD is in "textures\clothes\Tiwa44_UNPMDC\UNPMDC_Panties_d.dds" and "textures\clothes\Tiwa44_UNPMDC\UNPMDC_Panties_n.dds". 

 

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The bikini armor collection has the top bikini be Slot32(top only, bottomless) and the other part like the panty(slot52) be other slots.

Bottom slot52 is used by SOS framework if something is equipped to that slot it replaces the SOS dick/pubes mesh simulating hiding, technically was replaced.  Using slot49(DD Chastity Belts) for the bottom part will let the SOS mesh stay and show the dick/pubes with mesh clipping. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tlam99]

Here you got one

 

 

 

 

[safado]

26 minutes ago, T-lam said:

Here you got one

 

 

 

 

 

I'm using that one to replace ZAZ harness.  But without the nipples piercing or body because I changed the slot32 partition to slot58 to make it ZAZ compatible.  It's a personal modification. Using Bodyslide studio. 

 

Thanks T-lam for the example.

 

List of slots used by Devious Devices authors to standardize concepts but not followed by many armor authors. 

https://github.com/DeviousDevices/Docs/wiki/Slot-Usage-Reference/

Used by	Slot	Used by DD?
Head	30	No
Hair	31	No
Body - Full	32	No
Hands / Gloves	33	No
Forearms	34	No
Amulet	35	No
Ring	36	No
Feet	37	No
Calves	38	No
Shield	39	No
Tail	40	No
Long Hair / Device Hider	41	Yes
Circlet	42	No
Ears	43	No
Gags	44	Yes
Collars	45	Yes
Yokes / Armbinder (And Cloaks)	46	Yes
Unused (Commonly Backpacks)	47	No
Plugs (Anal)	48	Yes
Chastity Belts	49	Yes
Vaginal Piercings	50	Yes
Nipple Piercings	51	Yes
Schlongs of Skyrim	52	No
Cuffs (Legs)	53	Yes
Unused (Used by Remodeled Armor)	54	No
Blindfolds	55	Yes
Chastity Bras	56	Yes
Plugs (Vaginal)	57	Yes
Harnesses / Corsets	58	Yes
Cuffs (Arms)	59	Yes
Miscellaneous (Dual Sheath Redux, Estrus, etc)	60	No
Miscellaneous (Special Effects / etc)	61	No

 

 

 

 

[spaz490]

thats a nice list to have. most modders probly dont know about devious devices and if they do they dont like it or they dont have the compatibly slot list for partitions 44+.