Why was Bodytalk Deleted?

[TheBottomhoodofSteel]

On 8/4/2022 at 8:15 PM, Arieslia said:

they definitely could have done better, such as making it opt-in and it's a one-time question: if you say no, then you're exempt from collections and the archive system, if you say yes you agree to collections and the archive system. that way both people who don't like it can opt out and those who like the idea can use it. as an addition, if you chose you could later send a message to support that tells them - not asks, tells - to change your decision. and that's just a spitballed idea off the top of the head of someone who knows very little of this shit.

 

EDIT: just for further context, you and other mod authors were completely in the right for doing this, especially with the way Nexus acted with this. Nexus was completely in the wrong here, and i would abandon the platform if it weren't for the fact that half my preferred mods cannot be found elsewhere and the other half getting them would require an absurd level of jumping through hoops to get them anywhere else.

The thing is, if they gave us that choice, both systems would have entirely failed. Collections aren't super popular with Mod Authors, and worse so because of the behaviors of the people who support/make them and most mod authors don't archive their mods for specific reasons. Neither would have gotten off the ground if they gave authors the option to participate. 

Nexus staff knew this 100%. There was also shots and conversations from nexus staff to try to find workarounds to force mods authors removed back onto Nexus after the fact by using the systems authors were objecting to, so it goes to show they have moved from actually caring and being about authors to being about themselves. 

I don't regret leaving Nexus and honestly I've done just fine on my own. I don't have a hard time finding content I want and It's done me fine overall. 

Edited August 6, 2022 by TheBottomhoodofSteel

[WandererZero]

2 hours ago, TheBottomhoodofSteel said:

so it goes to show they have moved from actually caring and being about authors to being about themselves.

 

This is a huge point in and of itself. Something people try to gloss over, or counter argue with "painting with too broad a brush".

 

Nexus stopped caring long ago, and you don't need mod collections to bolster that point really. It's not the big things that show this (But they do help), it's the smaller things. The little things. Things like...if I comment on a mod, and someone replies..there's no notification. Yes you can do it on the forums. The fact that the main site lacks this basic functionality that is commonplace on just about any other website... illustrates just how little they care. This is just one example. There are a lot of really crap design choices when it comes to the Nexusmods website...and all of them illustrate how little they value the modder who uploads, and the user who downloads. Be it notifications, or the search UI...we could all tell a tale of some obvious thing Nexus misses...and we'd crash the LL forum db with the volume.

 

When the management of a community misses low hanging fruit like this, it's usually a sign they're chasing another target. The obvious guess here is money.

 

I have a lifetime membership with Nexus, I was lucky enough to pick it up long ago. It's the only real saving grace for NM these days. The site, the UI, the experience are marginal to middling at best. The fact they tried to burn the content creators demonstrates how little they care. They just want...whatever they want. It's a business model I suppose.

 

Nexus will always be divisive; under their current ownership...nobody should expect anything more than what it is now. I don't mind having to track down a mod I want if it's gone from NM. Yeah, it's a hassle. One that the folks at NM really couldn't give a shit about.

 

Because it's just another small thing they ignore in their pursuit of money or whatever else they want.

 

Just an additional $0.02.