gooser Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 I'm getting CTD during orgasm in scenes started by various mods (Harassment, Raider Pet, Violate). The CTD's are random. How do I diagnose? The latest Papyrus0.log doesn't indicate any likely candidates, except maybe CumOverlays. Some pertinent Mods: AAF (161.1beta) Family Planning Enhanced Redux (6/18/2021) AAF Sex Attributes (2.5.1) AAF Sex Harassment (5/4/2021) AAF Spectators (1.3) AAF VanillaKinkyCreatures Sex Animation Themes (V210326.0) AAF Violate (1.52) Captive Tattoos (3.0) CombatStripLite (5/4/2021) CumOverlays (5/4/2021) TattooAfterRape (9/4/2020) Boston Breeder Raider Pet SimplePatchFinal Thanks Here's the whole list: Spoiler #Mod_Priority,#Mod_Status,#Mod_Name,#Mod_Version "0000","+","DLC: Wasteland Workshop","" "0001","+","DLC: Vault-Tec Workshop","" "0002","+","DLC: Nuka-World","" "0003","+","DLC: Far Harbor","" "0004","+","DLC: Contraptions Workshop","" "0005","+","DLC: Automatron","" "0006","+","FO4Edit Output","" "0007","+","f4SE Scripts and Source","" "0008","+","Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch","2.1.3.0" "0009","+","Armor and Weapon Keywords Community Resource (AWKCR)","8.6.0.0" "0010","+","DEF_UI","1.5.1.0" "0011","+","Valdacil's Item Sorting","9.1.0.0" "0012","+","Mod Configuration Menu","1.39.0.0" "0013","+","Extended Dialogue Interface","1.3.6.0" "0014","+","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-","2.6.3.0" "0015","+","BodySlide and Outfit Studio","5.3.1.0" "0016","+","ZaZ-Extended-Skeleton (ZeX)","4.0.0.0" "0017","+","FusionGirl","1.75.0.0" "0018","+","8K Realistic Skin Textures - 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gooser Posted June 24, 2021 Author Posted June 24, 2021 Last lines in my Papyrus0.log Spoiler [06/24/2021 - 11:09:49AM] CumOverlay Debug: OnAnimationStop: grabbing Actors & Tags [06/24/2021 - 11:09:49AM] CumOverlay Debug: AnimationStop tags: ["SavageCabbage", "F_M", "NOFURN", "COWGIRL", "FROMFRONT", "Neutral", "PenisToVagina"] [06/24/2021 - 11:09:49AM] TrySpermFrom Started [06/24/2021 - 11:09:49AM] TrySpermFrom After While [06/24/2021 - 11:09:49AM] TrySpermFrom Before Condom & Cumflation
gooser Posted June 24, 2021 Author Posted June 24, 2021 So maybe its related to the Family Planning Enhanced Redux, which I believe does "Cumflation"?
MrFuturehope Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 I'm using FPE Redux too, I don't think I ever had this problem, but then again some of the features may not trigger every time and if these crashes are random, it could be that some feature that triggers randomly (by a calculated chance) is what is causing your game to crash. If you suspect it could be Cumflation, try to disable that feature if possible (not sure if there's an option for that). If there's no option to disable it, but there's maybe some slider that can set a chance, try to max it out and see what happens then, because if it's this feature that causes your game to crash, you should then crash every time instead of random crashes, that would also help you to diagnose the problem.
gooser Posted June 24, 2021 Author Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, MrFuturehope said: I'm using FPE Redux too, I don't think I ever had this problem, but then again some of the features may not trigger every time and if these crashes are random, it could be that some feature that triggers randomly (by a calculated chance) is what is causing your game to crash. If you suspect it could be Cumflation, try to disable that feature if possible (not sure if there's an option for that). If there's no option to disable it, but there's maybe some slider that can set a chance, try to max it out and see what happens then, because if it's this feature that causes your game to crash, you should then crash every time instead of random crashes, that would also help you to diagnose the problem. Thanks tried that. It was a Harassment approach. I disabled all the "Cumflation" options in the FPE Redux MCM, and I disabled DD in the Harassment MCM. I sped through the scene (hitting End when the AAF panel was up), and I the scene ended, I heard a "gulp" sound and then CTD. Not sure what the gulp sound is from (since it was a cowgirl-vaginal scene) but it's possible its part of the problem... ?
MrFuturehope Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, gooser said: Thanks tried that. It was a Harassment approach. I disabled all the "Cumflation" options in the FPE Redux MCM, and I disabled DD in the Harassment MCM. I sped through the scene (hitting End when the AAF panel was up), and I the scene ended, I heard a "gulp" sound and then CTD. Not sure what the gulp sound is from (since it was a cowgirl-vaginal scene) but it's possible its part of the problem... ? I don't want to tell you what you should or shouldn't do, but MCG mod has many of the features that you have installed through individual mods, including harassment approaches. I'm using it and it's fine and working well for me. I always prefer all in one solutions when possible, because they are made to bring all of those features together and as a nice side effect of it, you have a conflict free setup.
gooser Posted June 24, 2021 Author Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, MrFuturehope said: I don't want to tell you what you should or shouldn't do, but MCG mod has many of the features that you have installed through individual mods, including harassment approaches. I'm using it and it's fine and working well for me. I always prefer all in one solutions when possible, because they are made to bring all of those features together and as a nice side effect of it, you have a conflict free setup. Thanks for your help. Usually the mix works, but I added too much I think into the mix.
MrFuturehope Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 2 hours ago, gooser said: Thanks for your help. Usually the mix works, but I added too much I think into the mix. You're welcome. Some mods may not be compatible with other mods, which is shame because it means you cannot really mix them the way that you would like. Some of these conflicts can be solved by patches, but not all of them and naturally the more mods you install, the more patches would you need and also the patches themselves may introduce problems of their own and unfortunately usually they aren't updated as often as the mods they are supposed to patch, which can introduce even more problems when those patches expect feature A to be there, but that feature was already replaced with B, so yeah sometimes fewer mods means more stable mod list and fewer headaches along the way. I figured it's best to go with simplicity, the way of least resistance and less amount of conflicts while still retaining good gameplay with the features I want.
gooser Posted June 24, 2021 Author Posted June 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, MrFuturehope said: You're welcome. Some mods may not be compatible with other mods, which is shame because it means you cannot really mix them the way that you would like. Some of these conflicts can be solved by patches, but not all of them and naturally the more mods you install, the more patches would you need and also the patches themselves may introduce problems of their own and unfortunately usually they aren't updated as often as the mods they are supposed to patch, which can introduce even more problems when those patches expect feature A to be there, but that feature was already replaced with B, so yeah sometimes fewer mods means more stable mod list and fewer headaches along the way. I figured it's best to go with simplicity, the way of least resistance and less amount of conflicts while still retaining good gameplay with the features I want. The combo I'm used to using without issues with a complete playthrough: AAF, Violate, Harassment, Attributes, Hardship (removed in this playthrough), CumOverlays, and Family Planning Enhanced. What's new is : DD, Boston Breeder, Raider Pet, and replacing FPE with FPE Redux. DD seems unstable. I should have known better because I've tried in the past with issues (CTD when just clicking a Devious Item in inventory). Raider Pet is interesting, but there's no MCM to control DD And I'm not sure about FPE Redux. I like all the stuff he's put into though. Sounds great. I bet if i remove DD, and Raider Pet, I would get some stabilitty back.
MrFuturehope Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, gooser said: The combo I'm used to using without issues with a complete playthrough: AAF, Violate, Harassment, Attributes, Hardship (removed in this playthrough), CumOverlays, and Family Planning Enhanced. What's new is : DD, Boston Breeder, Raider Pet, and replacing FPE with FPE Redux. DD seems unstable. I should have known better because I've tried in the past with issues (CTD when just clicking a Devious Item in inventory). Raider Pet is interesting, but there's no MCM to control DD And I'm not sure about FPE Redux. I like all the stuff he's put into though. Sounds great. I bet if i remove DD, and Raider Pet, I would get some stabilitty back. I was thinking about trying those individual mods too, but it's just that I already have MCG which includes most of the same features already and I like it a lot, so now I'm kinda stuck with it, because if I added one or two of these individual mods, maybe it would be a better alternative to the same feature provided by MCG, but still redundant and it would most likely make my game unstable.
gooser Posted June 24, 2021 Author Posted June 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, MrFuturehope said: I was thinking about trying those individual mods too, but it's just that I already have MCG which includes most of the same features already and I like it a lot, so now I'm kinda stuck with it, because if I added one or two of these individual mods, maybe it would be a better alternative to the same feature provided by MCG, but still redundant and it would most likely make my game unstable. MCG is a monster though, right? I see a lot of features that have no appeal to me. Like NPC enslavement.
MrFuturehope Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 35 minutes ago, gooser said: MCG is a monster though, right? I see a lot of features that have no appeal to me. Like NPC enslavement. I wouldn't exactly call it a "monster". MCG is what you want it to be. If you don't like some feature, you can always turn it off or simply never use it and that's what I like about it, you can configure it to your taste.
Invictusblade Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 for FPER, can you upload your MCM profile from here-> \Fallout 4\Data\MCM\Settings\FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.ini so I can have a look at it (maybe there is a flaw somewhere)
gooser Posted June 25, 2021 Author Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Invictusblade said: for FPER, can you upload your MCM profile from here-> \Fallout 4\Data\MCM\Settings\FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.ini so I can have a look at it (maybe there is a flaw somewhere) Oh Hi! Yes, here's the settings after I disabled cumflation. FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.ini
Invictusblade Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, gooser said: Oh Hi! Yes, here's the settings after I disabled cumflation. FP_FamilyPlanningEnhanced.ini 490 B · 1 download The only thing I can see there, is the fusion girl setting maybe it is broken, I know there are/were issues with different fusion girl versions (but I use CBBE so I don't pay that much attention to FG)
gooser Posted June 25, 2021 Author Posted June 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Invictusblade said: The only thing I can see there, is the fusion girl setting maybe it is broken, I know there are/were issues with different fusion girl versions (but I use CBBE so I don't pay that much attention to FG) Any ideas about the "gulp" sound right after orgasm? Some other mod?
Invictusblade Posted June 25, 2021 Posted June 25, 2021 50 minutes ago, gooser said: Any ideas about the "gulp" sound right after orgasm? Some other mod? first thing I would check is if the "gulp" sound is the problem (maybe it has some bad code) so try to find it in Data/Sound (no idea where) and remove it. at least identity where it came from Fallout is weird with some loose files.
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