toys Classic Toy Box SE

[VirginMarie]

3 hours ago, someuselessuser said:

I tried to get rid of green-purple compression artifacts of some textures and upsclaed some. Compressed with BC7 format to avoid re-introducing artifacts so these won't work in LE.

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Since I don't know your "art", I don't know what this means. The textures were made by the author Zadil years ago. I know nothing about making textures.

 

All I need to understand is the in-game improvement... what this fixes or improves, from the user perspective, looking at the toy in game. Before & after pics would tell those 1000 words.

 

If your intent is to publish this as an optional download, I don't need to know  but would still like to. But since you posted here, I tend to assume you are suggesting I add the improvements into the mod. You have not said. I'm certainly interested and open to that, if there's benefit. Just posting it here is not going to find many users.

 

Not a fan of upscaling if this means larger files thus slower in-game render times. That downside needs to be offset by sufficient benefit. One reason to understand the benefit.

[someuselessuser]

On 9/15/2022 at 8:38 PM, VirginMarie said:

 

Since I don't know your "art", I don't know what this means. The textures were made by the author Zadil years ago. I know nothing about making textures.

 

All I need to understand is the in-game improvement... what this fixes or improves, from the user perspective, looking at the toy in game. Before & after pics would tell those 1000 words.

 

If your intent is to publish this as an optional download, I don't need to know  but would still like to. But since you posted here, I tend to assume you are suggesting I add the improvements into the mod. You have not said. I'm certainly interested and open to that, if there's benefit. Just posting it here is not going to find many users.

 

Not a fan of upscaling if this means larger files thus slower in-game render times. That downside needs to be offset by sufficient benefit. One reason to understand the benefit.

Sorry for disappearing. I only upscaled textures if there was some visible benefit, and I only touched diffuse textures. Some of them are cleaned and compressed with BC7 compression which doesn't have annoying artifacts but gives bigger file size, some are only cleaned. For example corset was upscaled but gloves were just cleaned. Lock textures and not having green/purple tint is especially noticable.

Examples below are most noticable ones, if you decide to include them in the mod I suggest ignoring the rest because they don't suffer from green/purple tint as much and details are not noticable from far. (I failed to properly upload images so have some .pngs in an archive)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

comparison.7z

Edited September 28, 2022 by someuselessuser
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[VirginMarie]

38 minutes ago, someuselessuser said:

Sorry for disappearing. I only upscaled textures if there was some visible benefit, and I only touched diffuse textures. Some of them are cleaned and compressed with BC7 compression which doesn't have annoying artifacts but gives bigger file size, some are only cleaned. For example corset was upscaled but gloves were just cleaned. Lock textures and not having green/purple tint is especially noticable.

Examples below are most noticable ones, if you decide to include them in the mod I suggest ignoring the rest because they don't suffer from green/purple tint as much and details are not noticable from far. (I failed to properly upload images so have some .pngs in an archive)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Any chance you have in game pictures of the improvement? The actual texture maps do not allow me to see/understand anything. Just one example, in game... to give me that reason to spend time getting in deeper and using.

[someuselessuser]

On 9/29/2022 at 1:20 AM, VirginMarie said:

 

Any chance you have in game pictures of the improvement? The actual texture maps do not allow me to see/understand anything. Just one example, in game... to give me that reason to spend time getting in deeper and using.

6 screenshots attached, 3 new 3 old. I tried to make one compatible with LE but compressing in again with old format loses even more detail.

screenshots.7z

[VirginMarie]

23 minutes ago, someuselessuser said:

6 screenshots attached, 3 new 3 old. I tried to make one compatible with LE but compressing in again with old format loses even more detail.

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So have to be honest here. I can barely detect any difference. 

[Kingkobra420420]

Im having an issue with the cbbe 3ba bodyslide for this mod the sliders do the opposite of what they should for the classic padded bra I also want to clarify that the rest of your mods work fine for me its just the cbbe 3ba bodyslide

Edited December 12, 2022 by Kingkobra420420

[VirginMarie]

21 minutes ago, Kingkobra420420 said:

Im having an issue with the cbbe 3ba bodyslide for this mod the sliders do the opposite of what they should for the classic padded bra I also want to clarify that the rest of your mods work fine for me its just the cbbe 3ba bodyslide

 

I did not know that setting a slider higher than 100 was a thing, or possible.

I can see that the higher setting is a flattened bra. 

 

But  the main thing I don't understand is your use case...

Why do this?

What's the actual result in game? (I'd not assume you get the same result in game)

What are you trying to accomplish or solve in game?

In other words, does it matter?

[Kingkobra420420]

4 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

I did not know that setting a slider higher than 100 was a thing, or possible.

I can see that the higher setting is a flattened bra. 

 

But  the main thing I don't understand is your use case...

Why do this?

What's the actual result in game? (I'd not assume you get the same result in game)

What are you trying to accomplish or solve in game?

In other words, does it matter?

Thats my fault for using bad screenshots but having the size at 0% is larger than at 100% i typically use 140% as my 100 weight size i was just trying to show that making the size larger makes it shrink instead of grow

[VirginMarie]

6 minutes ago, Kingkobra420420 said:

 making the size larger makes it shrink instead of grow

 

Yes I already understood that you are showing that. Leaves me with the same questions.

1. Why do this?
2. What's the actual result in game? (I'd not assume you get the same result in game)
3. What are you trying to accomplish or solve in game?
4. In other words, does it matter?

Nobody uses those sliders on a toy. Or if they do, I'd not understand why.

The norm... you make or use a preset, build your body using the preset. The toys then build and conform to that preset, thus you are never touching those sliders, except to make your own custom preset.

 

This is probably why its not been a problem. Strange problem for sure, but does it matter? Is there an in game problem under normal usage?

[Kingkobra420420]

6 minutes ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Yes I already understood that you are showing that. Leaves me with the same questions.

1. Why do this?
2. What's the actual result in game? (I'd not assume you get the same result in game)
3. What are you trying to accomplish or solve in game?
4. In other words, does it matter?

Nobody uses those sliders on a toy. Or if they do, I'd not understand why.

The norm... you make or use a preset, build your body using the preset. The toys then build and conform to that preset, thus you are never touching those sliders, except to make your own custom preset.

 

This is probably why its not been a problem. Strange problem for sure, but does it matter? Is there an in game problem under normal usage?

I do build body then just batch build but that results in it clipping into the breast so i tried to manually fix it and found this issue

[VirginMarie]

1 minute ago, Kingkobra420420 said:

I do build body then just batch build but that results in it clipping into the breast so i tried to manually fix it and found this issue

 

Ok I will see if I can recreate and fix.

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, Kingkobra420420 said:

I do build body then just batch build but that results in it clipping into the breast so i tried to manually fix it and found this issue

• I can't recreate any problem in game, going from tiny to extreme large, using 2 presets... my own preset and SevenBase
• I CAN recreate the Size slider being funky. Other sliders tried are fine. Even if I re-gen the bodyslide files, the slider behaves that way. I'd conclude that this is normal, and "size" means relative to something but not what we expect... I'd conclude it's not the cause of whatever you are seeing clip in game
• I did not test for super-extreme... "beyond" 100%, like 140%. Can't expect super-extreme to always work, particularly for a toy covering this area of the body... this to me is most likely your case. Things will clip on a toy of this nature
• or Maybe you are using a preset not entirely compatible with the 3ba body

All things to troubleshoot that I know about are in here... Building toys in Bodyslide

Edited December 12, 2022 by VirginMarie

[AltheIf]

On 12/12/2022 at 1:24 PM, VirginMarie said:

• I can't recreate any problem in game, going from tiny to extreme large, using 2 presets... my own preset and SevenBase
• I CAN recreate the Size slider being funky. Other sliders tried are fine. Even if I re-gen the bodyslide files, the slider behaves that way. I'd conclude that this is normal, and "size" means relative to something but not what we expect... I'd conclude it's not the cause of whatever you are seeing clip in game
• I did not test for super-extreme... "beyond" 100%, like 140%. Can't expect super-extreme to always work, particularly for a toy covering this area of the body... this to me is most likely your case. Things will clip on a toy of this nature
• or Maybe you are using a preset not entirely compatible with the 3ba body

All things to troubleshoot that I know about are in here... Building toys in Bodyslide

From what I find out, the cause of the problem is that two slider: "Breast" and "BreastSmall" have their property set to "Invert", which means that increasing the slider will do the opposite thing.  This problem mainly cause trouble when using the padded bra (as shown in the pictures of @Kingkobra420420).  By cancelling those inverts, the bra will work fine with adjustments in those sliders, however, the chain part in the middle will become pretty janky while using large breasts.