rylasasin Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I keep having a problem in that after a while of playing the game (I don't know what exactly causes it) the game crashes when I try to have sex with any NPC. They come together, and then CTD. It usually means I have to delete a bunch of saves untill I find one where it doesn't do it. I've tollerated it up untill now, now its just driving me nuts!! Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3.1] 03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73] 04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] 05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 06 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] 07 Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm [Version 3.0b] 08 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 09 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.8.0] 0A Lovers with PK.esm 0B BreakUndies.esm 0C LoversCreature.esm 0D Toaster Says Share v3.esm 0E HorseCombatMaster.esm 0F Oblivifall Master File.esm [Version 1.1] 10 ScreenEffects.esm ** Oblivion Vwalk.esp 11 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 12 DLCShiveringIsles.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp ** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp 13 Better Cities .esp 14 All Natural.esp [Version 1.3.1] 15 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3] 16 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] 17 Idle Dialogue.esp [Version 1.2] 18 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] 19 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3] ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] ** Personality Idles - Modified version.esp [Version 1.3] 1A Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.0.2] 1B FF_Real_Thirst.esp 1C Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.1] 1D FormID Finder4.esp 1E Streamline 3.0.esp ** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp 1F ACCCGR SI.esp 20 Blackheart and Gizmodian ECRobes.esp 21 Mage Equipment.esp 22 HGEC Rogue Mage & Scoundrel.esp 23 GizmodianSorceress.esp 24 AncientTowers.esp ** AncientTowers Vwalk.esp 25 Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp [Version 1.03] 26 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73] 27 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 28 FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.73] 29 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] ++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] 2A Hemingweys Capes Improved.esp [Version 3.0b] ** Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp 2B Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0] 2C OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72] 2D Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 2E Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 2F Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 30 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 31 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 32 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 33 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 34 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 35 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 36 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 37 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 38 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] ** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp 39 Trade and Commerce.esp 3A (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp ** (DC) Sutch Reborn Vwalk.esp 3B Kragenir's Death Quest.esp [Version 2.11] ** Kragenir's Death Quest Vwalk.esp 3C KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp ++ 300 Feudal Empire.esp 3D Kragenirs_WhiteStallion_Compat.esp 3E Kvatch Rebuilt.esp ++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp ** Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp 3F LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.5] 40 KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp 41 StopDarkBrotherhood.esp 42 DLCfrostcrag.esp 43 FrostcragRebornCobl.esp ** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp 44 Blood&Mud.esp ** Blood&Mud Vwalk.esp 45 ElsweyrAnequina.esp ** ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp 46 road+bridges.esp [Version 4.6.1] 47 Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp [Version 1.42] 48 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] 49 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 4A xulTheHeath.esp 4B SutchReborn-TheHeath patch.esp 4C XulEntiusGorge.esp 4D xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 4E Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp 4F xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] 50 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] ** xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp 51 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] 52 SutchReborn-LostCoast patch.esp 53 KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp 54 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.3] ** xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp 55 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1] 56 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3] 57 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 58 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 59 KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp 5A xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] 5B xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 5C xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3] ** xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp 5D KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp 5E xulPantherRiver.esp 5F Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp 60 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 61 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1] ** xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp 62 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.7] ** xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp 63 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] 64 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] 65 Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp 66 KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp 67 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] ** xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp 68 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1] ** xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp 69 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2] 6A FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp 6B OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp 6C xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] 6D OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp [Version 1.1] ** xulCliffsOfAnvil Vwalk.esp 6E xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.1] 6F NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp [Version 3.0.1] 70 KragenirsDeathQuest-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp [Version 1.1] 71 bartholm.esp ** bartholm Vwalk.esp 72 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] 73 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] 74 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] 75 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 2.0.1] 76 Oblivifall - Closing Time.esp [Version 1.0] 77 Oblivifall - Let's Talk!.esp [Version 1.1] 78 PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43] ++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2] 79 ReneerNPCNameMod.esp 7A Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0] 7B Cliff_Roleplayingcharacter.esp [Version 2.1] 7C SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90] 7D SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86] ++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89] ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86] 7E SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80] ++ SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70] ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84] ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83] 7F MidasSpells.esp ++ Midas Reduced costs Half.esp ++ Midas PowDur1.5x.esp ++ Midas Eldrich Power 2x.esp ++ Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp ++ Midas BeastFortify Fix NONOBSE.esp ++ Midas Assimulator Addon - Temp Fix.esp 80 Midas Assimulator Addon - Oscuro.esp 81 Midas Assimulator Addon - Ench Jewels Enhanced.esp 82 Midas Assimulator Addon - Shivering.esp ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp 83 FearsomeMagicka.esp 84 RshAlchemy.esp 85 RshAlchemyRecipes.esp 86 RenGuardOverhaul.esp 87 Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp [Version 3.7] 88 Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp 89 kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp 8A Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp [Version 4] 8B Kobu's Cure for Fatigue Mod.esp [Version 1.0.1] 8C Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp 8D Oblivion XP.esp 8E Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp 8F actors_in_charge.esp 90 ActorsInMadness.esp 91 ActorsInEmotions.esp 92 77_Umpa_Animation.esp 93 Chain it!.esp ++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76] 94 Stat Restore.esp 95 Minionz.esp 96 CompanionMaster.esp 97 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D] 98 bgBalancing Ohmes = DesuKawaKha.esp ++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp ++ Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp 99 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] ** bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV] 9A bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV] ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV] 9B bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U] ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D] ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10] 9C bgBalancingEVOptionalMorehairs.esp ** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Beautification.esp [Version 10.0EV-D] 9D bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D] ++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV] ** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D] 9E bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993] 9F bgIntegrationEV no Cell Reset Solution.esp A0 bgIntegrationEV - Stock Dailog, Integrated!.esp ** bgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.esp [Version 0.99] ++ bgIntegrationEV - Unique Clothes.esp [Version 0.99] ++ bgIntegrationEV Vwalk.esp A1 Silverfish&bgIntegrationPatch.esp A2 LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp A3 LoversVoiceSSPPlus.esp A4 LoversMB2.esp A5 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90] A6 LoversBitch.esp A7 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4] ** LoversMergedRBP.esp A8 ArgonianFeets.esp A9 FriendsAndLovers.esp AA Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp [Version 4.8.0] AB Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0] AC Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.8.0] AD Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.8.0] ** Better Cities Resources Vwalk.esp ** Better Cities Full - B&M Edition Vwalk.esp AE Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.7.0] AF Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.7.0] B0 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.0] B1 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.7.0] ** Better Imperial City Vwalk.esp B2 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.7.0] B3 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1] B4 Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp [Version 4.7.0] ** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV] ++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68] ++ OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33] B5 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp ++ Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp B6 UVII.esp B7 Real Hunger, Cobl.esp [Version 1.6.1] ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] B8 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.3] B9 Bashed Patch, 0.esp BA Duke Patricks - Fortress of Fear.esp BB Duke Patricks - Combat Magic II.esp BC DynamicLeveledLists.esp BD LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp BE LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
gregathit Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Rylasasin, I am confused as to what you have installed lovers wise as you seem to be missing alot of plug-ins (like LoversRaperS.esp). Are you running a "merged" version of lovers? If so, where did you get it? I only ask so that I can figure out what you "have" vs what you may "need" to function properly I have redone your load order and this will require THREE things: 1. A clean save with ALL lovers files disabled. 2. Redoing your bashed patch (Do NOT include any lovers files in your bashed patch). 3. MAKE A BACKUP BEFORE DOING ANYTHING ELSE This way if something doesn't work you don't spend 20+ hours reinstalling all your mods. 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3.1] 03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73] 04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] 05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 06 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3] 07 Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm [Version 3.0b] 08 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 09 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.8.0] 0D Toaster Says Share v3.esm 0E HorseCombatMaster.esm 0F Oblivifall Master File.esm [Version 1.1] 10 ScreenEffects.esm 0A Lovers with PK.esm 0B BreakUndies.esm 0C LoversCreature.esm ** Oblivion Vwalk.esp 11 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 12 DLCShiveringIsles.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp ** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp 13 Better Cities .esp 14 All Natural.esp [Version 1.3.1] 15 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3] 16 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] 17 Idle Dialogue.esp [Version 1.2] 18 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] 19 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3] ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] ** Personality Idles - Modified version.esp [Version 1.3] 1A Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.0.2] 1B FF_Real_Thirst.esp 1C Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.1] 1D FormID Finder4.esp 1E Streamline 3.0.esp ** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp 1F ACCCGR SI.esp 20 Blackheart and Gizmodian ECRobes.esp 21 Mage Equipment.esp 22 HGEC Rogue Mage & Scoundrel.esp 23 GizmodianSorceress.esp 24 AncientTowers.esp ** AncientTowers Vwalk.esp 25 Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp [Version 1.03] 26 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73] 27 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 28 FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.73] 29 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] ++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] 2A Hemingweys Capes Improved.esp [Version 3.0b] ** Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp 2B Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0] 2C OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72] 2D Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 2E Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 2F Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 30 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 31 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 32 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 33 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 34 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 35 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 36 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 37 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 38 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] ** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp 39 Trade and Commerce.esp 3A (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp ** (DC) Sutch Reborn Vwalk.esp 3B Kragenir's Death Quest.esp [Version 2.11] ** Kragenir's Death Quest Vwalk.esp 3C KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp ++ 300 Feudal Empire.esp 3D Kragenirs_WhiteStallion_Compat.esp 3E Kvatch Rebuilt.esp ++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp ** Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp 3F LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.5] 40 KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp 41 StopDarkBrotherhood.esp 42 DLCfrostcrag.esp 43 FrostcragRebornCobl.esp ** DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp 44 Blood&Mud.esp ** Blood&Mud Vwalk.esp 45 ElsweyrAnequina.esp ** ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp 46 road+bridges.esp [Version 4.6.1] 47 Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp [Version 1.42] 48 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] 49 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 4A xulTheHeath.esp 4B SutchReborn-TheHeath patch.esp 4C XulEntiusGorge.esp 4D xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 4E Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp 4F xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] 50 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] ** xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp 51 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] 52 SutchReborn-LostCoast patch.esp 53 KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp 54 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.3] ** xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp 55 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1] 56 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3] 57 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 58 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 59 KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp 5A xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] 5B xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 5C xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3] ** xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp 5D KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp 5E xulPantherRiver.esp 5F Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp 60 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 61 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1] ** xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp 62 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.7] ** xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp 63 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0] 64 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] 65 Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp 66 KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp 67 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] ** xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp 68 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1] ** xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp 69 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2] 6A FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp 6B OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp 6C xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12] 6D OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp [Version 1.1] ** xulCliffsOfAnvil Vwalk.esp 6E xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.1] 6F NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp [Version 3.0.1] 70 KragenirsDeathQuest-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp [Version 1.1] 71 bartholm.esp ** bartholm Vwalk.esp 72 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08] 73 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] 74 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] 75 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 2.0.1] 76 Oblivifall - Closing Time.esp [Version 1.0] 77 Oblivifall - Let's Talk!.esp [Version 1.1] 78 PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43] ++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2] 79 ReneerNPCNameMod.esp 7A Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0] 7B Cliff_Roleplayingcharacter.esp [Version 2.1] 7C SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90] 7D SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86] ++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89] ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86] 7E SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80] ++ SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70] ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84] ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83] 7F MidasSpells.esp ++ Midas Reduced costs Half.esp ++ Midas PowDur1.5x.esp ++ Midas Eldrich Power 2x.esp ++ Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp ++ Midas BeastFortify Fix NONOBSE.esp ++ Midas Assimulator Addon - Temp Fix.esp 80 Midas Assimulator Addon - Oscuro.esp 81 Midas Assimulator Addon - Ench Jewels Enhanced.esp 82 Midas Assimulator Addon - Shivering.esp ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp 83 FearsomeMagicka.esp 84 RshAlchemy.esp 85 RshAlchemyRecipes.esp 86 RenGuardOverhaul.esp 87 Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp [Version 3.7] 88 Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp 89 kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp 8A Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp [Version 4] 8B Kobu's Cure for Fatigue Mod.esp [Version 1.0.1] 8C Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp 8D Oblivion XP.esp 8E Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp 8F actors_in_charge.esp 90 ActorsInMadness.esp 91 ActorsInEmotions.esp 92 77_Umpa_Animation.esp 93 Chain it!.esp ++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76] 94 Stat Restore.esp 95 Minionz.esp 96 CompanionMaster.esp 97 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D] 98 bgBalancing Ohmes = DesuKawaKha.esp ++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp ++ Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp 99 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] ** bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV] 9A bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV] ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV] 9B bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U] ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D] ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10] 9C bgBalancingEVOptionalMorehairs.esp ** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Beautification.esp [Version 10.0EV-D] 9D bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D] ++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV] ** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D] 9E bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993] 9F bgIntegrationEV no Cell Reset Solution.esp A0 bgIntegrationEV - Stock Dailog, Integrated!.esp ** bgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.esp [Version 0.99] ++ bgIntegrationEV - Unique Clothes.esp [Version 0.99] ++ bgIntegrationEV Vwalk.esp A1 Silverfish&bgIntegrationPatch.esp A8 ArgonianFeets.esp A9 FriendsAndLovers.esp AA Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp [Version 4.8.0] AB Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 4.7.0] AC Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.8.0] AD Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.8.0] ** Better Cities Resources Vwalk.esp ** Better Cities Full - B&M Edition Vwalk.esp AE Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.7.0] AF Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.7.0] B0 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.0] B1 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.7.0] ** Better Imperial City Vwalk.esp B2 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp [Version 4.7.0] B3 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1] B4 Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp [Version 4.7.0] ** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV] ++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68] ++ OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33] B7 Real Hunger, Cobl.esp [Version 1.6.1] ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] B8 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.3] A2 LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp A3 LoversVoiceSSPPlus.esp A4 LoversMB2.esp A5 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90] A7 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4] A6 LoversBitch.esp ** LoversMergedRBP.esp <-----what is this???? B9 Bashed Patch, 0.esp BA Duke Patricks - Fortress of Fear.esp BB Duke Patricks - Combat Magic II.esp BC DynamicLeveledLists.esp BD LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp BE LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp B5 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp ++ Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp B6 UVII.esp
rylasasin Posted October 24, 2011 Author Posted October 24, 2011 Rylasasin' date=' I am confused as to what you have installed lovers wise as you seem to be missing alot of plug-ins (like LoversRaperS.esp). Are you running a "merged" version of lovers? [/quote'] Yeah I probably should have mentioned that. Yes I am using Uglykid's merged version. PS: the reason I'm so hesitant to cleansave like you said is because I don't want to lose my Lovers extender level. Is there a console command to give me XP/Level? Merged RBP is an addon I created for the merged patch that removes MBP++ Dependancy and replaces it with Races Ballancing Project stuff.
gregathit Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Ok, that helps! I didn't know where to put the LoversMergedRBP.esp file so see his readme for info on that and place it accordingly.
gregathit Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Oh, and put LoversMB2.esp just above LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp Sorry....I was hung up on the merged file and forgot to move this down
rylasasin Posted October 30, 2011 Author Posted October 30, 2011 Seems to happen if I enter certain places. But what these places are and what they have in common I have no fucking clue. I've gotten lucky that I haven't had it happen to me in quite a while, but now its happening again. and I don't wanna do a clean save because I don't want to lose my PK Ext. Level/experience. UGH. THIS IS PISSING ME OFF SO GODDAMN MUCH.
gregathit Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 1st - make sure you have disabled autosaves in the oblivion main settings (and don't use quicksaves (both lead to savegame bloating). 2nd - What type of system are you running? If Win7 64 bit you may look at doing a couple of things: All the below items are available at the nexus: 1. Get the 3GB patch - only get this if you have more than 2GB of RAM. 2. Get Game Companion - will run the game in the windows environment making it a little more stable. Other items to help that are a little more complicated to install: 1. Streamline - customizes stack heaps and purges memory (also adds an autosave function that actually works!) 2. OSR (oblivion stutter remover) - does just what the name says. Lastly, I use Windom Earle_s Oblivion Crash Prevention System. Some don't like it and others swear by it. It is up to you.
rylasasin Posted October 30, 2011 Author Posted October 30, 2011 1st - make sure you have disabled autosaves in the oblivion main settings (and don't use quicksaves (both lead to savegame bloating). 2nd - What type of system are you running? If Win7 64 bit you may look at doing a couple of things: All the below items are available at the nexus: 1. Get the 3GB patch - only get this if you have more than 2GB of RAM. 2. Get Game Companion - will run the game in the windows environment making it a little more stable. Other items to help that are a little more complicated to install: 1. Streamline - customizes stack heaps and purges memory (also adds an autosave function that actually works!) 2. OSR (oblivion stutter remover) - does just what the name says. Lastly' date=' I use Windom Earle_s Oblivion Crash Prevention System. Some don't like it and others swear by it. It is up to you. [/quote'] Funny thing is I've done all of those (except for the autosave thing.) perhaps the fact that i'm using streamline 3.0 and not 3.1 has something to do with it (SL 3.1 woudl never run for me for whatever reason) Also a reminder: 1. It only crashes with PC->NPC sex or vise versa. Not NPC->NPC sex. 2. The point it crashes is just before the sex starts, when the game puts the two characters together and strips them down (I think it doesn't actually get to the stripping part before it crashes though) in order to start the animations. This is true no matter which avenue I use, weither its Tachicat, Adultplayplus, joburg, etc. Assuming I use Adultplay plus, its like this: Talk to NPC->Select "I have something to ask you" -> (messed up japanese text meaning "wanna fuck?") -> select position -> NPC is moved into the same space as player, and then it crashes.
gregathit Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 Ok, let's try something slightly different just to see. Start a new game and go have sex with someone and see if it crashes then. This will test out whether or not a clean save is going to be required. If it doesn't crash then well....clean save time..... If it does crash then we know we are dealing with some other issue. EDIT: Looking back and your load order...did you add LoversVoiceSSPPlus.esp (I don't remember this being in the merged mod)? This could be part of the problem as it requires LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp as a master. You will need to change the master to LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp in Wyre Bash.
rylasasin Posted October 30, 2011 Author Posted October 30, 2011 Ok' date=' let's try something slightly different just to see. Start a new game and go have sex with someone and see if it crashes then. This will test out whether or not a clean save is going to be required. If it doesn't crash then well....clean save time..... [/quote'] It works if I do that. It also works if I load a previous save game (though a lot of the time I have to go quite a few streamsaves back before it works). What I usually wind up doing is finding the most recent save where it worked and re-continuing from there. Then the problem goes away... for a while longer at least. Most of the time. What I'm hoping to do is find out WHY it does this, and what causes it, so I can STOP this from happening in the future instead of having to cleansave/delete saves every time it decides to be a pain in the ass. EDIT: Looking back and your load order...did you add LoversVoiceSSPPlus.esp (I don't remember this being in the merged mod)? This could be part of the problem as it requires LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp as a master. You will need to change the master to LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp in Wyre Bash. yes I did do that.
gregathit Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 Well I am not sure what to tell you as I am as stumped as you are then. If it has gone away then it "should not" start occurring again. Obviously something is conflicting with it but I don't have a clue what it may be. Sorry I can't help you further...
rylasasin Posted October 30, 2011 Author Posted October 30, 2011 Well I am not sure what to tell you as I am as stumped as you are then. If it has gone away then it "should not" start occurring again. Obviously something is conflicting with it but I don't have a clue what it may be. Sorry I can't help you further... Could you at least give me a console code to give me X amount of Lover with PK extender Exp? I'd settle for that at least.
gregathit Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=389 As I don't use the extender myself I just don't know. However I posted the link to that thread (above) you can look through or failing to find anything there pm Donkey to see if he can point you in the right direction.
rylasasin Posted October 30, 2011 Author Posted October 30, 2011 I don't think I had this happen before I ran the merged plugin now that I think about it, so I think it might have something to do with that. Gonna try switching over to the OMOD version see if that helps any. It's gonna be a lot harder on my already large list of mods, but if it helps cut out these confounded CDTs then I'll be happy at least.
gregathit Posted October 30, 2011 Posted October 30, 2011 I recommend making a backup 1st before just in case something "goes bad"! You have a ton of mods that would take "forever" to re-install! Load order will be critical as now you will have quite a few separate esp/esm's. Good Luck! Holler if you run into trouble.
galgat Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I don't know if i missed it, but wrye bash has an animation reset..which what is does is reset the animation of save games, to zero.. these animation clutter for no better name, don't really cause a big problem until they get in the 60 and 70% area. But the [repair Abomb] feature of wrye bash has never mess up my games. You might try it.. I fear the merged lovers files might be very troublesome.. I wish it were not so, but merging many plugins In my experience has always cause disastrous results. Wish you luck with your problem. Wish I could help more, but gregathit is covering everything very well.
Deman40 Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 I agree with you Galgat,I have tried the merged version and OMOD version.I had the same issues occur with me using the merged version. The good thing about the OMOD version is being able to disable ones you don't wanna use or reset a individual plugin if you need too.I believe merged versions of clothes and hair work well, but merging so many different mods scripts and animation together doesn't seem to work well in my opinion.
galgat Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 yes if done right, I like the beautiful people merge, and as you said I have many clothing mods that are merged, But it has always been my experience that Quest type mods just do not merge well. I think it is wonderful though that some have tried to merge them to help new players get started. I know there heart was in the right place. But I fear it may cause as much trouble as it does good.
rylasasin Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 And it still has that problem with the OMOD version Seems to occur after I've enter certain areas, and the problem even persists when I leave them. Whcih areas I don't know (one of these is Deetsan's bedroom it seems. Dunno which others though) It seems it crashes when It tries to disrobe me. for whatever reason. Disabling certain mods doesn't help, it still crashes the game when I try once I've gone past that point. Hell, I'm down to this: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Lovers with PK.esm 02 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 03 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90] 04 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D] 05 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 06 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp and it still crashes!
Grizzly UK Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 There's quite a number of possible culprits for such behaviour, a buggy script, a corrupted animation file, a bad mesh file or any number of other things. Biggest problem is finding the actual cause and sometimes the only real solution is to un-install everything and start over with a clean, fresh install. But, before you get to that point, here's something that you could try. Install the basic Lovers package (just the Resource Pack and the Base Pack, this ensures that all the files are replaced with ones that *should* be ok), set your load order: Oblivion.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversFSE.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Now try testing, preferably with a new game, but you could also try with a clean save.
rylasasin Posted November 4, 2011 Author Posted November 4, 2011 Uninstalling everything is simply not an option. Besides, more often than not it doesn't actually help solve the problem. just delays it further (while giving you a major headache and creating even more problems trying to remember to reinstall everything again) and I've already established that it already works with a new game (for a while anyway) and with a clean save (Again for a while anyway, though I don't don't to do either because that means having to reset my stats all the time every time it decides to irritate me) Here, i've included two saves here one where it works and one where it doesn't. Perhaps someone could pinpoint the cause for that with this. Update: FOUND IT!!! That's right. after so much hair pulling, after so much vented rage, after so much deleting my saves, I FINALLY found what was doing it. I can't believe I didn't try this before. But at the same time, It was so far and so unrelated that I'm definately not suprised that anyone, myself included would ever have figured it out. It had NOTHING to do with Xlovers. That's why my attempts to half-cleansave (that is, using Wrye bash to disable certain mods in the savegame's loaded mods list) it didn't work (and in all honesty, any attempts at cleansaving would have worked either since all the times I did try it I did at the "point" while it was still working.) I was looking in the wrong place the whole time. Okay here's the deal: For the last few days I've taken note that the crash happened when both players were undressing. So it had to be something on the player or the other character. Since it happened regardless of who I tested it on, I concluded it had to be the player. However, All this time I thought it might have been some hidden flag object that was being removed when it should be, some non-playable ring being equipped that was causing crashes when unequipped, or something similar. The truth... couldn't be further. It was... get this. The Mage Equipment clothes I was wearing. I know, right? weird. Or to be more specific, what Duke Patricks Combat Magic was doing to it. See, its like this: Duke Patricks CBM disables the "Reflect Magic" and "Reflect Damage" as part of the mod. Why he does this... I dunno, but occording to the readme it was a personal choice because those two effects severely unballance the game (and the mod he was making). Something I agree with, which is the only reason I've kept that mod enabled after getting ripped off by the really really infuriatingly hard quest and not getting anything out of it. However the side effect of this is that here's a lot of enchanted items which now have "fake magic effects" instead of the reflect effects they should. So DP CM tries to correct this in two ways. The Automatic way, and the not-automatic way (a spell you cast on the clothes in question once you drop it), both which converts what would have been Relfect Damage effect into shield and the reflect spells effect into Resist magicka. The only difference is as I mentioned the spell version you cast on the clothes manually, while the automatic version continually checks it. Apparently however doing this causes the clothes in question to aquire a glitch which CTDS if you try to unequip it. In this case, the boots my character was wearing. Removing the DP CM at that point apparently did little to stop it though, since the damage had already been done. Taking off the converted boots still crashed the game when unequipped. So it seems solution: Remove DP CM (good riddance actually.) and load the game at a point before the crashes started. I'm going to test that. If it goes well and it doesn't crash again after this, I think we can consider this case solved and closed. EDIT EDIT: Well I was still a bit off. It wasn't DP CM causing it. But the root cause remains: Removing my boots in any fashion (unequipping them, removing them, or just putting on something else) causes my game to crash. A lot of the time. I have no idea why. They're a pair of Ornate Boots from the Mage Equipment Mod (2.1) though I've mucked around with the enchantment using Advanced magecraft so simply disabling that mod isn't going to do anything (now that it's an in game created item)
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