Does anyone else think this is strange...?

[Cyndi]

After dinner this evening,

I was relaxing with a nice cup coffee, a delicious side of other peoples suffering  (cuz I'm weird like that sometimes, and it's less calories than ice cream), while perusing the ban threads on nexus. 

What caught my eye though, were the number of bans creeping up lately over any given site users installation path for whatever game.

 

There were a lot of holier-than-thou comments by some of the parties involved, you know like "f'ing pirates, your install path is a dead give away"

 

And now, don't get me wrong, I don't advocate or support piracy. Theft is theft as far as Im concerned.

But, I am the kind of person who (if only for 5 mins) will give the benefit of a doubt.

 

If you search around in google, there are TONS of sites, that tell you how to move your steam games to other folders, even different physical drives and still have steam recognize and run them properly.  In a 5 min search I found 3 or 4 programs that will do all this for you for the low low price of w/e a few were free.

Oh I forgot to mention, one of those guides was on nexus itself at some point. Which is what prompted me to take a look in the first place, as I had remembered seeing the guide linked to from a popular mod at some point. 

 

So what I would like to know is, how off does this  sound to anybody else?  If you can legitimately move skyrim for instance (I honestly haven't tried, not worth the extra pain in the ass imo) to say my documents or c:/games or what not... How can you call someone a pirate just because their skyrim path is something like c:/banana/chickensandwhich/skyrim/data/yougetthepoint ? Does it somehow impinge on Steam's TOS, or some Eula somewhere?  I mean god help you if you make a typo in a .nif's texture path and then upload it, because you must be a pirate since your file paths aren't right.

 

I guess it just strikes me as a guilty until proven Innocent sort of situation, and they probably were pirates (a big no-no on nexus) but still....  

[gregathit]

You can move steam to say:

C:\Games\Steam\.....\skyrim  or  D:\Steam\......\skyrim

and that is perfectly legal and honestly advisable with UAC & permissions issues that Win7\Vista\Win8 have.

 

 

HOWEVER, C:\Skyrim is a dead give away of piracy.  Skyrim can't be outside the steam folder and NOT be pirate version (or cracked\hacked anyway).

[Cyndi]

I guess that makes sense,  and granted, I did just search around and gave things a cursory look over (for literally about 5 mins).  I guess people who moved skyrim to different drives, moved skyrim and steam. ... or were generally full of it.

 

But it really does look like a sketchy practice at best from first glance.

[canderes]

Nexus is one of those places that would throw their users under the bus if it came to piracy; not that I would support it either. There are software companies that pay you to report people who do it. Don't tell me you believe Nexus wouldn't do that; they ban and report people for minor things all the time. At worst they would probably just get the offending account banned off of steam if there is any link to the steam user id. It's a dead give away because warez junkies, pirates and newbie hackers keep everything @ root lol.

[LolGG]

I am not against it (and I refuse to use steam).Take that as you want,by copyright law,everyone is more or less a pirate.

 

 

Nexus is not just strict,it's like a dictatorship

 

And I cannot understand why the heck all these people get problems with their copies,are they completely clueless or something?

[gregathit]

Game piracy is pretty much a no, no anywhere (even here) and the larger the site, the more they need to discourage it to avoid legal issues.  One major issue is pirating the game can lead to all sorts of things in that game not working due to how it was cracked.  Some cracks are good and some suck hairy ball sacks.

 

All and all it is not worth anyone's time to help someone try to troubleshoot an F'ed up game that they didn't buy and that may have all sorts of issues created by the crack.

 

Suffice to say I think Ashal has the right idea regarding it and that is reflected in this sites rules (number 6):

 

 

6.  Piracy is not provided here. It's not our business where you get a game, but you will not get help with piracy here, and helping somebody else pirate is strictly against the rules. Keep it to yourself.

 

Please note the "keep it to yourself" bit as that certainly applies to this thread and mentioning that you are or are not engaging in it.

 

Cheers,

Greg

[LolGG]

Game piracy is pretty much a no, no anywhere (even here) and the larger the site, the more they need to discourage it to avoid legal issues.  One major issue is pirating the game can lead to all sorts of things in that game not working due to how it was cracked.  Some cracks are good and some suck hairy ball sacks.

 

All and all it is not worth anyone's time to help someone try to troubleshoot an F'ed up game that they didn't buy and that may have all sorts of issues created by the crack.

 

Suffice to say I think Ashal has the right idea regarding it and that is reflected in this sites rules (number 6):

 

 

6.  Piracy is not provided here. It's not our business where you get a game, but you will not get help with piracy here, and helping somebody else pirate is strictly against the rules. Keep it to yourself.

 

Please note the "keep it to yourself" bit as that certainly applies to this thread and mentioning that you are or are not engaging in it.

 

Cheers,

Greg

 

If I typed my previous post in the Nexus though,I would get instabanned.Even if it is only implications,without solid proof.That is all I had to say on the matter,now back to our businesses.

 

[Kamen Rider Kuuga]

It's Nexus; you sneeze and they ban you for making a loud, sudden noise.

[Rayblue]

Looks like this one will be in the "Dos and Don'ts and Forbidden by the Nex" list.

 

To have Steam and the game installed means you're a first-class citizen; otherwise they'll send in the party van the next day.

[Symon]

How does anyone know the user hasn't established a symbolic link (hard or soft) between say:

C:\Games\Steam\.....\skyrim  and C:\skyrim?

 

Windows does have them now, having finally caught up with unix. (only take Bill decades).

[chan]

I think it is silly. I have 4 versions of Skyrim installed simultaneously to assist me in testing, troubleshooting, and configuring ENB settings for different mods. Does this make me a pirate? No.

 

Steam is bullshit. Auto-updates are a problem in general (ask anyone that is an SA/IA/NA).

The other problem is, Steam will not install on computers that have a poor internet connection.

 

Anyone can buy the game, but not everyone can install Steam, and those that can, may not want the additional features that Steam forces you to use.

[gregathit]

I think it is silly. I have 4 versions of Skyrim installed simultaneously to assist me in testing, troubleshooting, and configuring ENB settings for different mods. Does this make me a pirate? No.

 

Steam is bullshit. Auto-updates are a problem in general (ask anyone that is an SA/IA/NA).

The other problem is, Steam will not install on computers that have a poor internet connection.

 

Anyone can buy the game, but not everyone can install Steam, and those that can, may not want the additional features that Steam forces you to use.

 

All of those things you are complaining about can be resolved by simply remaining in offline mode. 

 

While I do agree "in part" with you (yes, auto updates are BS) and I do wish that the good old days of installing something and not needing third party crap to run the game, would return.  However, this is the way it is.  For all the "bad" things on steam there are a bunch of good ones as well.  Also steam is not origin so we can all be thankful for that.

[slamdunk]

when i was using a laptop i had my steam and games installed ona usb 3.0 external drive. It worked fine. Nexus banned me on Chat for asking modders if they'd like to upload to alternative sites as well.

You can use my this new mod manager http://forums.gamingio.com/topic/28-gamingioinstallerdownload/