MGUnkown Posted February 27, 2021 Posted February 27, 2021 When loading a saved game, I am unable to interact with any world objects that may trigger a player animation, i.e. chairs, workbenches, beds, zap furniture. There isn't even a button prompt when looking at them. While a minor nuisance before, the issue has been slowing growing more problematic. This means I cannot craft, build my hearthfire home, or just have fun with some of the mods installed. I tried all sorts of fixes, such as the "player.tai" command, the "enableplayercontrols" command, cleaning scripts, cleaning cells, etc. The only fix that worked was using the "RecycleActor" command on my character, but even this isn't working anymore as the game will lock up when I use it. I desperately hope someone can help, or at least point me in the direction of a possible bug fix, because it's getting to the point that I am unable to play the game anymore and I'm quite frustrated. Load order below, I have had no noticible compatibility issues Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp paradise_halls.esm Heels Sound.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm paradise_halls_farengars_study.esl MajesticMountains_Moss.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm IHarvest.esl ZaZAnimationPack.esm ITortureFramework.esm CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esl SexLab.esm Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm SexLabAroused.esm SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm Perfect Terrain LOD.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm OSA.esm Ecotone Dual Sheath.esl LewdMarks.esl FlowerGirls SE.esm NoHornsDragonReplaceSkeleton.esp SkyUI_SE.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp Immersive Wenches.esp Vivid WeathersSE.esp Ostim.esp OCum.esp mcgDwarvenDeviousCuirass.esp EVGConditionalIdles.esp Conditional Expressions.esp RRTattoos.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp HS2_bunyCostume.esp Audstuff Devices.esp FGT.esp LazyBodyEdit.esp SexLab Extra Voices.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp ModestElderly.esp Modest Elderly-WACCF Patch.esp DepthsOfSkyrim.esp Medieval Lanterns of Skyrim.esp SD Cages.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp SD Cages - Badassless Patch.esp ELFX Fixes.esp xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp CG4 Fx_SnowEffectsMerge.esp Better Dynamic Snow SE.esp WhiterunImmersiveSexualPlayground.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 3BBB.esp Justice Glass Armor.esp AMatterOfTime.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SLDrunkRedux.esp DBM_RSChildren_Patch.esp DBM_SMIM_Patch.esp [Zynx][MTM] TavernClothes.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SLALAnimObj.esp Cumshot.esp SlaveTats.esp CumshotFG.esp CumshotOStim.esp CumshotSL.esp ExMakeup.esp earthquakes - MCM.esp Supreme Ashstorms.esp Supreme Blizzards.esp 3DCloudsStormsNights.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp Ultimate Lingerie Collection 2.0 [SE].esp SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp [COCO]wedding_2B.esp Eyes of Aber.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp MariEyes.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp Marriage_All.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp SexistGuards.esp Fresh Women.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp Volcanic Crimson Glass Retexture.esp MaximumCarnage.esp Devious Devices For Him.esp Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp Devious Devices - BRRF.esp Devious Devices - Struggle Idles Patch.esp SkyrimIsWindy.esp Supreme Rainstorms.esp Vivid Weathers - Supreme Rainstorms Patch.esp Skysan_Icicle.esp Immersive Dragon Sounds.esp NiOverridePoseAdjustments.esp PluginTemplate.esp Rudy Nordic Pottery SSE.esp RSChildren.esp Ghostblade.esp Ashbound.esp hearthfireextended.esp mihailanimalbones.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp Spectacular Skooma.esp SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp HearthFires Display Case Fix SE.esp ImprovedDaedricArtifacts.esp DBM_ImprovedDaedricArtifacts_Patch.esp Wenches_Are_Not_Them_Soldiers_SSE.esp WANTS_IW_Patch.esp BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp mihailcoralatronach.esp Morning Fogs SSE.esp Cloaks.esp Skyshards.esp DBM_ESOSkyshards_Patch.esp SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp Devious Lore.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Devious Lore - KS Hair Patch.esp Laura's Bondage Shop.esp PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp waterplants_lily.esp mihailcyrodiiliandeer.esp SLPrivacy.esp DBM_IW_Patch.esp DeviousFollowers.esp mihailsiltstriders.esp DiverseWerewolvesCollection.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp FallOfTheDragonborn.esp submissivelola_est.esp kal_LolaAddon.esp Recorder Follower Base.esp BodySearch.esp DBM_IA_Patch.esp DBM_Apophysis_Patch.esp ScopedBows.esp DBM_ELFXExteriors_Patch.esp Detailed Cities SE.esp SimpleSlavery.esp pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp Roseblossom Hollow.esp mihailsnowwhales.esp RoadInspections.esp Deviously Enslaved.esp paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp DeviousCarriages.esp mihaildovahfly.esp mihailbasilisk.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp LoversComfort.esp FNISspells.esp SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp SeeEnchs.esp ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp SD Addons.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp MoreDeathbells.esp _GSPoses.esp DBM_DepthsofSkyrim_Patch.esp RedMountainVolcano.esp DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp DBM_ELFX_Patch.esp DX Necromancer Robes.esp DX Staff of Necromancy.esp DeviouslyHelpless.esp Real Wildlife Behaviour.esp (Pumpkin)-TEWOBA-TheExpandedWorldofBikiniArmor.esp Improved Shadows and Volumetric Lighting.esp DragonCombatDialogue.esp StormLightning.esp Footprints.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp dark face fix.esp Present4You.esp sr_FillHerUp.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Frost Meshes Patch.esp DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp WetFunction.esp mihailtreeofsouls.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuSE.esp ZAPFurniturePlacer.esp Savage Wolves and Feral Foxes.esp RealRabbitsHD.esp WICourierRadiant.esp UniqueBarbas.esp BlendedRoads.esp Fluffy Snow - BlendedRoads Patch.esp Spank That Ass.esp Carry_on_LevelUp.esp SLSFFameComments.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp FNIS.esp [COCO]Lingerie.esp BikiniRobesStandalone.esp SLSO.esp TKDodge.esp KSHairVanilla1.esp KSHairVanilla2.esp KSHairVanilla3.esp GDOS - Splendid Mechanized Dwemer Door.esp HearthFire Fixed.esp mihailairatronach.esp Blue Fire Magic - Fire.esp Blue Fire Magic - Frost.esp EFFStandCosMenu.esp imp_helm_Immersive_Armors.esp DynamicCartHorses.esp shadowmere_replace.esp TAWOBA REMASTERED Leveled List.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp NeoDizzySet.esp Daedric Bitchs.esp adcSexlife.esp DD_Helpers.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp SexLabDefeat.esp Cinematic Dragon Soul Absorbtion.esp DragonBreathFix.esp PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp Blush When Aroused.esp DW.esp Devious Devices SE patch.esp Ecotone Dual Sheath Patch.esp FNISSexyMove.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Bijin AIO.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Wives.esp RaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp RaceMenuHH.esp Justice Stalhrim Armor.esp OblivionWeapons.esp KSHairdosSMP.esp icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp KSWigsSMP.esp ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp Runandwalkpaces.esp skyforgedWeapons.esp Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp MajesticMountains.esp WiZkiD Signs - BirnasOddments Addon.esp GDOS - Glorious Solitude Door - Rotation Fix.esp StrangeRunes.esp SLAL_GSAnimObjects.esp DynamicAnimalVariants.esp sextoys-calyps-2.esp AKMaples.esp CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp IHarvestVanillaFixes.esp immersivehdbanners.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp EclipseLydia.esp ScopedBows_Bijin Patch.esp LaFemmeLycana.esp RapeTattoos.esp FadeTattoos.esp VtawWardrobe5.esp JailRape.esp dse-display-model.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp Immersive Jewelry.esp DBM_CCOR_Patch.esp Immersive Jewelry_CCOR_Patch.esp DBM_ImmersiveJewelry_Patch.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation_CCOR_Patch.esp Cloaks_CCOR_Patch.esp DBM_CloaksofSkyrim_Patch.esp Immersive Weapons_CCOR_Patch.esp DAB_IJ_Weight_Patch.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Pahe_AltStartLAL.esp Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RainRipples-RW2_addon.esp Underwater Visibility Fix - RW2.esp ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
Swanky Posted February 27, 2021 Posted February 27, 2021 The one thing that caught my eye was Ecotone DualSheath. I'm not completely familiar with the mod but if there's an option to reset the mod do so. I had something similar with backshields a couple days back when it forcefully de equipped my equipment and I couldn't sheath/unsheath my weapons and not attack anymore. If that does NOT help, have you tried "enableplayercontrols"? If so, does this reset on load / cell change? On a different note, USSEP should be the first mod loaded after the vanilla skyrim plugins.
Fredfish Posted February 27, 2021 Posted February 27, 2021 Try epc 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 in the console Try manually equiping/unequiping a weapon If you have a mod that has a hotkey for sitting or similar (i.e. Bathing in Skyrim) try using that Edit: Probably obvious but make sure you're not wearing any DD items that bind your hands
anjenthedog Posted February 27, 2021 Posted February 27, 2021 If enableplayercontrols (abbrev'd command edc, or selectively using the edc xxxxxxxxxxxx format) doesn't work, and if you happen to have defeat installed, try hitting the "0" (zero) key to open the defeat cleanup menu. It rarely but sometimes fixes victim status. (enableplayercontrols or edc alone means to run the command with all options true. There is no need or benefit to adding "1"s if your goal is to enable them all) see: https://skyrimcommands.com/command/enableplayercontrols Push come shove, load an earlier save from before you began experiencing the problem. Sometimes even epc (enableplayercontrols) or the defeat "cleanup" tool isn't sufficient, due to something corrupted in a "problematic" save. if it still presents for old save files (older than when you first began experiencing this problem), then I'd presume you installed or uninstalled something or fiddled in some way you're not saying you did... not saying you did, just that that's my presumption based on previous threads I've participated in. Regarding any potential reply (one I've read too many times in the past) on thy lips like "but I don't want to lose my progress/gold/item I got", well... sometimes we just have to accept whatever losses come from that backtracking as a necessary evil. That is, unless your intention is to play the optional game of "Debugging Skyrim forever!"
MGUnkown Posted February 27, 2021 Author Posted February 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Swanky said: The one thing that caught my eye was Ecotone DualSheath. I'm not completely familiar with the mod but if there's an option to reset the mod do so. I had something similar with backshields a couple days back when it forcefully de equipped my equipment and I couldn't sheath/unsheath my weapons and not attack anymore. If that does NOT help, have you tried "enableplayercontrols"? If so, does this reset on load / cell change? On a different note, USSEP should be the first mod loaded after the vanilla skyrim plugins. Hmm, I can certainly try resetting or disabling dualsheath. I think it's been there from the start. I'll reorder USSEP, didn't realize it had moved to second spot. Unfortunately enableplayercontrols does not help, and it only resets on loading saves. 8 hours ago, Fredfish said: Try epc 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 in the console Try manually equiping/unequiping a weapon If you have a mod that has a hotkey for sitting or similar (i.e. Bathing in Skyrim) try using that Edit: Probably obvious but make sure you're not wearing any DD items that bind your hands tried the first two, the only hotkey I have for changing the player state is SD, for kneeling and crawling. I can try that again before recycling actor, as I don't believe I have. I typically don't save when wearing DD hand restricting items since recycleactor fucks with the animations. 7 hours ago, anjenthedog said: If enableplayercontrols (abbrev'd command edc, or selectively using the edc xxxxxxxxxxxx format) doesn't work, and if you happen to have defeat installed, try hitting the "0" (zero) key to open the defeat cleanup menu. It rarely but sometimes fixes victim status. (enableplayercontrols or edc alone means to run the command with all options true. There is no need or benefit to adding "1"s if your goal is to enable them all) see: https://skyrimcommands.com/command/enableplayercontrols Push come shove, load an earlier save from before you began experiencing the problem. Sometimes even epc (enableplayercontrols) or the defeat "cleanup" tool isn't sufficient, due to something corrupted in a "problematic" save. if it still presents for old save files (older than when you first began experiencing this problem), then I'd presume you installed or uninstalled something or fiddled in some way you're not saying you did... not saying you did, just that that's my presumption based on previous threads I've participated in. Regarding any potential reply (one I've read too many times in the past) on thy lips like "but I don't want to lose my progress/gold/item I got", well... sometimes we just have to accept whatever losses come from that backtracking as a necessary evil. That is, unless your intention is to play the optional game of "Debugging Skyrim forever!" I don't think I've tried the defeat cleanup, so I could certainly try unfortunately it's been this way since I started the game, I've even tested with new characters and the same issue occurs. I haven't really got an issue with going back to old saves as I've had to do that for other mods I also want to take a moment to add that this does not effect objects that have their own animations separate from the player. I can interact with doors, chests, puzzles, traps, and the like. this only effects objects that use player animations Edit: hold up, went back to a couple old saves and the interactions came back. now to narrow down what I installed to cause the issue
anjenthedog Posted February 27, 2021 Posted February 27, 2021 Quote Edit: hold up, went back to a couple old saves and the interactions came back. now to narrow down what I installed to cause the issue Don't bother. it's just a crapped out save. Lick your wounds and move on.
MGUnkown Posted February 27, 2021 Author Posted February 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, anjenthedog said: Don't bother. it's just a crapped out save. Lick your wounds and move on. it's mostly a curiosity thing, I wanna figure out what fucked it to avoid it in the future
Swanky Posted February 27, 2021 Posted February 27, 2021 42 minutes ago, anjenthedog said: Don't bother. it's just a crapped out save. Lick your wounds and move on. Not necessarily. I did find out that backshields was causing the issue for me and I had to reset it with the provided reset note (that was shipped to the other end of the map because of how the Thalmor Embassy quest works when I didn't smuggle it into the party itself).
anjenthedog Posted February 27, 2021 Posted February 27, 2021 Ok, if you want to chase your tail Swanky, you go for it. I tired of that chase a long time ago. It's not worth my time or effort.
anjenthedog Posted February 27, 2021 Posted February 27, 2021 59 minutes ago, MGUnkown said: it's mostly a curiosity thing, I wanna figure out what fucked it to avoid it in the future I do understand the curiosity. Thing is, it could be a mod... or it could have been a bit of "battle damage" or some other incidental unrelated to any "reparable" cause. (my player has been kerfuffled many time over the past 2 years by draghur shouts or super hard hits (like a giants club) etc. These causes cannot be simply "remedied". They happen. even if they're not supposed to. Something glitches and that's that. But don't let me dissuade you if that's the game you want to play. Myself, I prefer playing skyrim to debugging issues that more often than not, have no "answer" or remediation other than to load an older save. glad that my suggestion helped though Quote Push come shove, load an earlier save from before you began experiencing the problem. Sometimes even epc (enableplayercontrols) or the defeat "cleanup" tool isn't sufficient, due to something corrupted in a "problematic" save.
MGUnkown Posted February 27, 2021 Author Posted February 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, anjenthedog said: I do understand the curiosity. Thing is, it could be a mod... or it could have been a bit of "battle damage" or some other incidental unrelated to any "reparable" cause. (my player has been kerfuffled many time over the past 2 years by draghur shouts or super hard hits (like a giants club) etc. These causes cannot be simply "remedied". They happen. even if they're not supposed to. Something glitches and that's that. But don't let me dissuade you if that's the game you want to play. Myself, I prefer playing skyrim to debugging issues that more often than not, have no "answer" or remediation other than to load an older save. glad that my suggestion helped though It's mostly 'cuz I work IT, hard to let it go, haha. I have a possible lead though, decided to clear out my inventory and see if any DD locks were staying equipped, there's one item, unnamed with ID 14040F0C, that remained equipped when nothing else was on, and I can't unequip it with the console. Imma see if it's present in that older save scratch that, that's something to do with wet function, it was an idea
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