How Can I Set Up Custom Body/Skin Combination Without Having Female Vampire Face and Eye Problems

[timurhan]

I want to play as female vampire character but everytime I get these issues in my modlist setups. Sometimes one sometimes both of them occurs. And still can't figure out why. The problems are basically female characters both npc and pc has greyed face and not vampire eyes. Didn't see any body deformation yet, all face including hairs. Sometimes I can able to pass these problems on my character with using some other fix named mods but npcs are always same. So what am I missing or is this inevitable?

[onesumgame]

18 minutes ago, timurhan said:

I want to play as female vampire character but everytime I get these issues in my modlist setups. Sometimes one sometimes both of them occurs. And still can't figure out why. The problems are basically female characters both npc and pc has greyed face and not vampire eyes. Didn't see any body deformation yet, all face including hairs. Sometimes I can able to pass these problems on my character with using some other fix named mods but npcs are always same. So what am I missing or is this inevitable?

It could be a mod conflict. I had the same problem because of USLEEP so I un-patched the edits to vampires in that mod and the vampires became pretty. If you post your load order someone might have a better answer for you.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

So it happens for vampires? Start with Race, see what is touching vampire race in LO. If you have dawnguard then dawnguard is, if you have mod come behind it that touches vampire race but doesnt use dawnguard as master then your fangbangers are dorked because they are reverted back to vanilla in...tintmask?something. 

 

 Probably race. You can load all mods into xedit and open skyrim.esm and click on race, find any various vampire race and see what all mods touch it. This should help you find problem.  Find it, come back and report if need be,should be able to carry needed effects over into last mod touching races,just have to add dawnguard as a master to that mod which you would be asked to do first time doing a drag and drop of needed records. Easier than it sounds.  

[timurhan]

On 12/25/2020 at 10:19 PM, onesumgame said:

It could be a mod conflict. I had the same problem because of USLEEP so I un-patched the edits to vampires in that mod and the vampires became pretty. If you post your load order someone might have a better answer for you.

I did not know about that. Load order may be little chaotic because of testing purposes.

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     hdtHighHeel.esm
  7  7     Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified.esm
  8  8     SexLab.esm
  9  9     SexLabAroused.esm
 10  a     CreatureFramework.esm
 11  b     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 12  c     BeeingFemale.esm
 13  d     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 14  e     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 15  f     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 16 10     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 17 11     SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
 18 12     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 19 13     Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
 20 14     FISS.esp
 21 15     Headtracking.esp
 22 16     Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
 23 17     Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
 24 18     Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
 25 19     Dragon Stalking Fix.esp
 26 1a     Hunters Not Bandits.esp
 27 1b     chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp
 28 1c     PotemaCrashFix.esp
 29 1d     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 30 1e     ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp
 31 1f     SkyStats_MCM.esp
 32 20     SkyUI.esp
 33 21     UIExtensions.esp
 34 22     FNIS.esp
 35 23     SexLabTools.esp
 36 24     SLSO.esp
 37 25     Rebirth Monster.esp
 38 26     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 39 27     VLCollisionFix.esp
 40 28     SLAnimLoader.esp
 41 29     SimplyKnock.esp
 42 2a     RaceMenu.esp
 43 2b     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 44 2c     RaceMenuOverlays.esp
 45 2d     MainMenu.esp
 46 2e     IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
 47 2f     AHZmoreHUD.esp
 48 30     AMatterOfTime.esp
 49 31     SkyHUD.esp
 50 32     WM_WidgetMod.esp
 51 33     SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp
 52 34     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 53 35     Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp
 54 36     360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
 55 37     StormWrathLightning.esp
 56 38     BullseyePerkParalyzeBugFix.esp
 57 39     xone Fix Those Wyrms.esp
 58 3a     Males of Skyrim.esp
 59 3b     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 60 3c     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
 61 3d     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 62 3e     KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
 63 3f     LewdMarks.esp
 64 40     RRTattoos.esp
 65 41     RavenWarpaints.esp
 66 42     SexLab Strapon.esp
 67 43     RavensWarpaint2.esp
 68 44     RavenWP3.esp
 69 45     KS Hairdo's.esp
 70 46     TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
 71 47     DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
 72 48     BVFE_Serana.esp
 73 49     Random Emotions.esp
 74 4a     ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
 75 4b     Better Vampires.esp
 76 4c     Predator Vision.esp
 77 4d     BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp
 78 4e     SlaveTats.esp
 79 4f     RapeTattoos.esp
 80 50     FadeTattoos.esp
 81 51     SexLabDefeat.esp
 82 52     Blush When Aroused.esp
 83 53     MilkModNEW.esp
 84 54     sr_FillHerUp.esp
 85 55     More Spawns - 3x.esp
 86 56     SL Survival.esp
 87 57     Artifact Disenchanting.esp
 88 58     DragonbornInDistress.esp
 89 59     FloraRespawnFix.esp
 90 5a     Milk Addict.esp
 91 5b     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 92 5c     SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
 93 5d     Run For Your Lives.esp
 94 5e     HDT Havok Object.esp
 95 5f     Cloaks.esp
 96 60     SpiritsOfSkyrim.esp
 97 61     SexLab-Parasites.esp
 98 62     sr_FillThemUp.esp
 99 63     Bijin AIO.esp
           Bijin Wives.esp
           Bijin Warmaidens.esp
           Aela.esp
100 64     MilkModNEW CF.esp
101 65     MilkModNEW HF.esp
102 66     Spank That Ass.esp
103 67     ABBA.esp
104 68     Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
105 69     KaliliesNPCs.esp
106 6a     MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasic.esp
107 6b     SOS - Shop.esp
108 6c     AnimatedParasites.esp
           zzEstrus.esp
109 6d     EstrusChaurus.esp
110 6e     SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
111 6f     SLAdventures.esp
112 70     SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
113 71     DiD - DLC Patch.esp
114 72     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
115 73     Dual Sheath Redux.esp
116 74     AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
117 75     Differently Ebony.esp
118 76     aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
119 77     Mortal Enemies.esp
120 78     ChaurusLights.esp
121 79     Convenient Horses.esp
122 7a     SexLab UtilityPlus.esp
123 7b     Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp
124 7c     MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
           Bijin NPCs.esp
125 7d     Immersive Music Temples.esp
126 7e     Immersive Music Replacer.esp
127 7f     Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp
128 80     DragonAspectEnhancement.esp
129 81     Destruction Damage Mod.esp
130 82     SexLab Approach.esp
131 83     ArcaneCleanser.esp
132 84     No Magic Ninja Dodge - No DLC.esp
133 85     Balanced_Magic.esp
134 86     Balanced_Magic_Dawnguard.esp
135 87     Beards.esp
136 88     Brows.esp
137 89     Apropos2.esp
138 8a     Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
139 8b     [NIND] CBBE Tentacle Parasite.esp
140 8c     SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
141 8d     Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp
142 8e     Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
143 8f     VioLens.esp
144 90     Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp
145 91     Improved Dragon Shouts.esp
146 92     Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp
147 93     AspectOfPower.esp
148 94     Unique Dragon Aspect.esp
149 95     CL ChillrendV3.esp
150 96     DawnguardDawnbreaker_FireEd.esp
151 97     Forceless Dawnbreake Explosion.esp
152 98     SOSRaceMenu.esp
153 99     XPMSE.esp
154 9a     ShoutCD.esp
155 9b     TrueDragonblood-DawnguardV001.esp
156 9c     PyP_CuttingRoomFloor.esp
157 9d     PyP_Legendary.esp
158 9e     Bloodskal Buff 200.esp
159 9f     TrueDragonblood-DragonboornV001.esp
160 a0     Dragon Aspect Buff.esp
161 a1     ColdharbourDaedra.esp
162 a2     EnchantedArsenal.esp
163 a3     Terra.esp
164 a4     Lanfael.esp
165 a5     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
166 a6     DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp
167 a7     KS Jewelry.esp
168 a8     Abundant Enchantments.esp
169 a9     PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp
170 aa     Rebirth Monster - CRF Patch.esp
171 ab     Rebirth Monster - USLEEP Patch.esp
172 ac     Rebirth Monster - WAFR Patch.esp
173 ad     Vampire_Lord_Drain_Destruction.esp
174 ae     [Tobi] CumTattoos.esp
175 af     SLACS.esp
176 b0     SMEssentialPlayer.esp
177 b1     SMEssentialPlayerDawnGuard.esp
178 b2     SLDrunkRedux.esp
179 b3     DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
180 b4     12FemaleBrows.esp
181 b5     Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp
182 b6     Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp
183 b7     Remodeled Armor.esp
184 b8     CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
185 b9     GirlHeavyArmor.esp
186 ba     VOBS.esp
187 bb     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
188 bc     InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
189 bd     ResetAvPotion.esp
190 be     Character Creation Overhaul.esp
191 bf     CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
192 c0     CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
193 c1     SmartCast_1_0.esp
194 c2     KG_NoMoreTooPowerful.esp
195 c3     IllusionNoPush.esp
196 c4     Illusion Perks Overhaul.esp
197 c5     MoreWards.esp
198 c6     glowing-enemies-wellsantos.esp
199 c7     potion plugin.esp
200 c8     NibblesAnimObjects.esp
201 c9     SLALAnimObj.esp
202 ca     SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
203 cb     AnubAnimObj.esp
204 cc     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
205 cd     Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

On 12/26/2020 at 1:11 AM, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

So it happens for vampires? Start with Race, see what is touching vampire race in LO. If you have dawnguard then dawnguard is, if you have mod come behind it that touches vampire race but doesnt use dawnguard as master then your fangbangers are dorked because they are reverted back to vanilla in...tintmask?something. 

 

 Probably race. You can load all mods into xedit and open skyrim.esm and click on race, find any various vampire race and see what all mods touch it. This should help you find problem.  Find it, come back and report if need be,should be able to carry needed effects over into last mod touching races,just have to add dawnguard as a master to that mod which you would be asked to do first time doing a drag and drop of needed records. Easier than it sounds.  

I am pretty sure its beacuse of dawnguard. Maybe also beacause of USLEEP. But I can not figured out how to turn around. In the current set up I'm using my PC character has no issue. But npc's both male and female has a head discoloration something gray. It's too obvious they are not using face textures but I don't know why? I'm using hdt aio body and MO2 so I can able to see what overwrites which file. It has all permissions. textures/actors/character/female/femaleheadvampire.dds - femaleheadvampire_msn.dds - femaleheadvampire_s.dd - femaleheadvampire_sk.dds files all writing by all in one hdt mod and in the male folder maleheadvampire.dd - maleheadvampire_msn.dds writing by total character makeover.

When I look for the NordRaceVampire entry at skyrim.esm in tesedit there are 6 columns which are: [00] Skyrim.esm (purple colored text) - [01] Update.esm (green colored text) - [02] Dawnguard.esm (red colored text) - [05] Unoffical Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp (red colored text) - [56] SL Survival.esp (red colored text) - [80] DragonAspectEnhancement.esp (orange colored text). I don't know what to do from here. Can you able to explain me step by step?

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

8 hours ago, timurhan said:

[56] SL Survival.esp (red colored text)

you need patch for that mod for compatibility with dawnguard. Sl Survival has patch in dl section. 

 

8 hours ago, timurhan said:

pretty sure its beacuse of dawnguard. Maybe also beacause of USLEEP.

dawnguard and usleep is 100% safe with the fangbangers. 

[timurhan]

4 hours ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

you need patch for that mod for compatibility with dawnguard. Sl Survival has patch in dl section. 

 

dawnguard and usleep is 100% safe with the fangbangers. 

SL Survival's dawnguard patch did not solve sir. And if dawnguard and usleep is not the reasons then what do you suggest?

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

5 hours ago, timurhan said:

And if dawnguard and usleep is not the reasons

If you have problem in either of those files then you did something weird to those files, 90+% of us use Dawnguard without problems, I have never been in game without usleep,maybe testing?, and I have never had bad fangbangers. 

 

5 hours ago, timurhan said:

SL Survival's dawnguard patch did not solve sir. And if dawnguard and usleep is not the reasons then what do you suggest?

are you sure? always test on new game. you can safely delete any saves you make while testing after problem is resolved. 

 

 

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

test on new game with DragonAspect mod disabled. 

[timurhan]

2 hours ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

then you did something weird to those files

I did nothing. I just think dawnguard is the reason because of there are femalevampirehead.dd and msn.dd files in dawnguard bsa. The vanilla ones, the bad ones. And I heard the bsa files has priority over other mods.

2 hours ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

are you sure? always test on new game. you can safely delete any saves you make while testing after problem is resolved.

I am testing both current and new saves. So yeah same resaults.

2 hours ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

test on new game with DragonAspect mod disabled. 

And about that. Things getting weirder.

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Sample1

Sample2

 

[timurhan]

Well I tried to create a new MO2 Profile with very reduced mod list for eleminate the possibilities. Here is the load order:

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified.esm
  7  7     Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
  8  8     BullseyePerkParalyzeBugFix.esp
  9  9     Dragon Stalking Fix.esp
 10  a     FloraRespawnFix.esp
 11  b     Hunters Not Bandits.esp
 12  c     chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp
 13  d     Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
 14  e     Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
 15  f     PotemaCrashFix.esp
 16 10     Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
 17 11     StormWrathLightning.esp
 18 12     VLCollisionFix.esp
 19 13     Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
 20 14     xone Fix Those Wyrms.esp
 21 15     FNIS.esp
 22 16     FISS.esp
 23 17     Headtracking.esp
 24 18     UIExtensions.esp
 25 19     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 26 1a     ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp
 27 1b     SkyStats_MCM.esp
 28 1c     SkyUI.esp
 29 1d     RaceMenu.esp
 30 1e     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 31 1f     RaceMenuOverlays.esp
 32 20     IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
 33 21     AHZmoreHUD.esp
 34 22     AMatterOfTime.esp
 35 23     SkyHUD.esp
 36 24     WM_WidgetMod.esp
 37 25     OblivionLikeLS.esp
 38 26     Run For Your Lives.esp
 39 27     Immersive Music Temples.esp
 40 28     Immersive Music Replacer.esp
 41 29     Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp
 42 2a     No NPC Greetings.esp
 43 2b     360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
 44 2c     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 45 2d     XPMSE.esp
 46 2e     SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
 47 2f     SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
 48 30     SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
 49 31     Beards.esp
 50 32     Brows.esp
 51 33     NB-Scars.esp
 52 34     KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
 53 35     RavenWarpaints.esp
 54 36     RavensWarpaint2.esp
 55 37     RavenWP3.esp
 56 38     KS Hairdo's.esp
 57 39     LewdMarks.esp
 58 3a     SlaveTats.esp
 59 3b     TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
 60 3c     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

And here is the result: Sample3

But I realized something dark elf female vampire npc that I encountered in same place (forgot to take ss) has no problem. She was exactly the way as how she should be. Her head and body used the same body/skin combination. So I decided to control tesedit as you mentioned.

Sample4 As you can see here there are 4 columns and all green except skyrim.esm . I don't know what is that even mean. And it is less saturated pink colored at the left section just like argonian, breton, highelf, imperial, redguard. Well, look at this coincidence these races exacly the problems I'm experiencing. But contrary to what appears all entries here all green, so tesedit says its ok here, I guess.

Sample5 And as you can see here last two columns dawnguard.esm and usleep changed color. Also there are some red entries. Khajit and woodelf also same.

After that, it is beyond my height. So, what to do now?

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

You use MO, go into game with only skyrim,dlc's,usleep,and alt start. nothing else, if fnis is not active you dont need to run fnis, no texture mods, nothing but skyrim,update,dlc's and usleep. Your either good with those few mods or your base files are not right. Lets see if your good there and go from there. Takes 2 minutes to test,real easy. 

 

To be clear, nothing should be active in left pane of MO but skyrim,update,dlc's,.usleep,alt start, do a new game,takes 2 minutes

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

You gotta get over the dawnguard and usleep dorking you. usually this problem happens when users who have dawnguard, which changes vampires, has its changes reverted back to vanilla by a mod that touches vampires and doesnt have dawnguard as master. That never makes it dawnguards fault. usleep does a lot,some stuff maybe no good but messes up vampires is not one of them. 

 

You have a mod in your load order dorking you or your base files are dorked, we can fix both, first one is easier and a quick test as outlined in previous post will tell us whether or not it's a mod or your base files. 

[timurhan]

13 hours ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

You gotta get over the dawnguard and usleep dorking you. usually this problem happens when users who have dawnguard, which changes vampires, has its changes reverted back to vanilla by a mod that touches vampires and doesnt have dawnguard as master. That never makes it dawnguards fault. usleep does a lot,some stuff maybe no good but messes up vampires is not one of them. 

 

You have a mod in your load order dorking you or your base files are dorked, we can fix both, first one is easier and a quick test as outlined in previous post will tell us whether or not it's a mod or your base files. 

Sample6 I don't know is this "normal" but here is the result.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

That don't look normal. 

 

What's in your data folder?

 

Can you do a screenshot of the folders you have in data folder, also if you could throw up a screenshot of what's in meshes/textures folders if you have those in your data folder,which you shouldn't,but I'm guessing you do.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

45 minutes ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

That don't look normal. 

 

What's in your data folder?

 

Can you do a screenshot of the folders you have in data folder, also if you could throw up a screenshot of what's in meshes/textures folders if you have those in your data folder,which you shouldn't,but I'm guessing you do.

^Scratch all that.   I went into game with only base files and vanilla fangbangers are ugly as fuck. I even seen 2 bald ones that looked similar to yours so I think your base files is good and we are back to mod conflicts 

 

Hate doing it to you, but lets see how your vamps look with body and textures in play. You need to activate bodylide/unp/cbbe, whatever you use plus your textures, if your body is hdt then activate your skeleton too, probably need to activate fnis and run it once with only those mods for testing, when you revert you LO back you'll have to re run fnis again. 

 

 

[timurhan]

6 hours ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

What's in your data folder?

The only thing I did to the original data folder is cleaning the masters of update, dawnguard, dragonborn and hearthfire.esm files with tesedit's Quick Auto Clean function. I did not intervene manually.

 

This is the load order I used:

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

This is the installed mods (MO2's left panel):

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"DLC: HearthFires"

"DLC: Dragonborn"

"DLC: Dawnguard"

"Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch"

"Alternate Start - Live Another Life"

"Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-"

I freshly installed cbbe with included face pack (even though I'm pretty sure none of these files are corrupted), so it's an all in one package for this test list, body + face meshes and textures. And it has these files; femaleheadvampire.dds -- femaleheadvampire_msn.dds -- femaleheadvampire_sk.dds inside \textures\actors\character\female. I can see these files are beatiful textures made from scratch, not the vanilla goblins.

Sample7

 

It's my PC character in game wtih this mod list: Sample8

And thi is a randon female nord vampire NPC: Sample9

As you can see, there is something real wrong but not just head discoloration also none of them has hair. The head part of the female vampire NPC's is not working.

 

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

2 hours ago, timurhan said:

The only thing I did to the original data folder is cleaning the masters of update, dawnguard, dragonborn and hearthfire.esm files with tesedit's Quick Auto Clean function. I did not intervene manually.

 

This is the load order I used:

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

This is the installed mods (MO2's left panel):

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"DLC: HearthFires"

"DLC: Dragonborn"

"DLC: Dawnguard"

"Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch"

"Alternate Start - Live Another Life"

"Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-"

I freshly installed cbbe with included face pack (even though I'm pretty sure none of these files are corrupted), so it's an all in one package for this test list, body + face meshes and textures. And it has these files; femaleheadvampire.dds -- femaleheadvampire_msn.dds -- femaleheadvampire_sk.dds inside \textures\actors\character\female. I can see these files are beatiful textures made from scratch, not the vanilla goblins.

Sample7

 

It's my PC character in game wtih this mod list: Sample8

And thi is a randon female nord vampire NPC: Sample9

As you can see, there is something real wrong but not just head discoloration also none of them has hair. The head part of the female vampire NPC's is not working.

 

We(I made you) did a big circle, your pc looked like it should,but sample 9 was off. This is tougher than I thought it would be. Dont recall ever seeing an issue were certain groups of npcs(this case vamps)looks off but PC with same group(vamps) are good.  

 

 

Drinking coffee, just got up. I feel like your PC and npcs in game(vamps) are getting tintmask from Race, So I feel like we can rule out Race and tintmask,cause your PC is good. Not much can dork head data with few mods you have plus dlc's.  I would go back to full LO, for now, back up in MO that little LO, you get 3 backups with MO for your Mod list and plug in list. But get in game and find a few female vampires that are dorked and open console and click on dorked npcs and take pic. We can look at those particular npcs and see if we find clue, Im thinking hair or eyes as that is only difference I can think right now would be between your PC and dorked npcs.  

 

Just curious, where are you finding vampires on new game? I found 3 quick ones yesterday and then didnt know where to look. I dont recall ever seeing bald vampires but I have used Botox for awhile now and when I was in game yesterday I seen a bald ugly one, no meshes and textures they were are ugly but 2 out 3 had hair. 

 

Im going go in with base files plus Coldhaven mod so I have big sample to look at. 

 

 

 

[timurhan]

Even though it's the first time I'm discussing it in a forum, I tried to solve that problem by myself from my own game file investigation and search from intertet many times before. I found many titles about this problem. But none of them helped. Sir, I'm really appreciated for your interest to solve my problem.

 

20 minutes ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

 find a few female vampires that are dorked and open console and click on dorked npcs and take pic. We can look at those particular npcs and see if we find clue, Im thinking hair or eyes as that is only difference I can think right now would be between your PC and dorked npcs.

I don't think that is needed. Sample3 already has what you want. See:

On 1/2/2021 at 2:24 AM, timurhan said:

Well I tried to create a new MO2 Profile with very reduced mod list for eleminate the possibilities. Here is the load order:

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified.esm
  7  7     Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
  8  8     BullseyePerkParalyzeBugFix.esp
  9  9     Dragon Stalking Fix.esp
 10  a     FloraRespawnFix.esp
 11  b     Hunters Not Bandits.esp
 12  c     chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp
 13  d     Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
 14  e     Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
 15  f     PotemaCrashFix.esp
 16 10     Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
 17 11     StormWrathLightning.esp
 18 12     VLCollisionFix.esp
 19 13     Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
 20 14     xone Fix Those Wyrms.esp
 21 15     FNIS.esp
 22 16     FISS.esp
 23 17     Headtracking.esp
 24 18     UIExtensions.esp
 25 19     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 26 1a     ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp
 27 1b     SkyStats_MCM.esp
 28 1c     SkyUI.esp
 29 1d     RaceMenu.esp
 30 1e     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 31 1f     RaceMenuOverlays.esp
 32 20     IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
 33 21     AHZmoreHUD.esp
 34 22     AMatterOfTime.esp
 35 23     SkyHUD.esp
 36 24     WM_WidgetMod.esp
 37 25     OblivionLikeLS.esp
 38 26     Run For Your Lives.esp
 39 27     Immersive Music Temples.esp
 40 28     Immersive Music Replacer.esp
 41 29     Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp
 42 2a     No NPC Greetings.esp
 43 2b     360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
 44 2c     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 45 2d     XPMSE.esp
 46 2e     SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
 47 2f     SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
 48 30     SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
 49 31     Beards.esp
 50 32     Brows.esp
 51 33     NB-Scars.esp
 52 34     KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
 53 35     RavenWarpaints.esp
 54 36     RavensWarpaint2.esp
 55 37     RavenWP3.esp
 56 38     KS Hairdo's.esp
 57 39     LewdMarks.esp
 58 3a     SlaveTats.esp
 59 3b     TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
 60 3c     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

And here is the result: Sample3

There is no last base change seems on the mfg console, only skyrim.esm.

20 minutes ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

Just curious, where are you finding vampires on new game?

I'm choosing the vampire start at Alternative start mod.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

On 1/3/2021 at 11:40 AM, timurhan said:

I'm choosing the vampire start

Very nice.

 

I also seen vampire fledglings in my game and with consule those npcs are added by skyrim.esm, dawnguard should be coming behind that overwriting some things on race in the esm but that wouldnt show in consule because dawnguard wouldnt be directly or specifically touching that npc. I have similarish pics on my end with base files but for 1, the dark elf  you have in sample 3 came out right on my end. Also on my end, the weirdest thing, I found 2 fledgling vamps that were the same npc(head data) they were getting their looks from encvampire00bretonF 

 

   

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and 1 came out a little dorked for me, just 1 of them, in your game your seeing the same with that 00bretonF with the no hair, they're hair is supposed to be like that. Shouldnt have discolor though.  

 

Give me a minute to get a few ck picks together, I think we are getting screwed by game mechanics as it deals with spawning npcs LChar list. It sounds like your not finding any good vamps? On my end with a little testing I got different results but I found two twins and 1 of them was dorked. 

 

NO good female vamps on your end minus PC?  What about named main female vamps like ones you find at Castle Volkihar?

 

 

 

 

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

Have you done any test without usleep? I dont think problem is there but in a few quick minutes you could rule it out. Im finishing breakfast and I already got ck loaded, so Im going get a pics loaded it up to show you what Im seeing on my end with bare bones and what it translates into from ck.  I really want to know on your end how dawnguard named females are looking?

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

making a quick a file to get me into castle volkihar. 

I did quick test with vamp start and found 4 females, 3 good and 1 dorked. Once again on my end it was a pair of breton twins and 1 was good and one was dorked.   

 

You can check in your game Hert(logger in north of falkreath) she is dlc1 char and does not get touched by LChar list. My guess is she is good.

[timurhan]

1 hour ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

Very nice.

 

I also seen vampire fledglings in my game and with consule those npcs are added by skyrim.esm, dawnguard should be coming behind that overwriting some things on race in the esm but that wouldnt show in consule because dawnguard wouldnt be directly or specifically touching that npc. I have similarish pics on my end with base files but for 1, the dark elf  you have in sample 3 came out right on my end. Also on my end, the weirdest thing, I found 2 fledgling vamps that were the same npc(head data) they were getting their looks from encvampire00bretonF 

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and 1 came out a little dorked for me, just 1 of them, in your game your seeing the same with that 00bretonF with the no hair, they're hair is supposed to be like that. Shouldnt have discolor though.  

 

Give me a minute to get a few ck picks together, I think we are getting screwed by game mechanics as it deals with spawning npcs LChar list. It sounds like your not finding any good vamps? On my end with a little testing I got different results but I found two twins and 1 of them was dorked. 

 

NO good female vamps on your end minus PC?  What about named main female vamps like ones you find at Castle Volkihar?

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

Have you done any test without usleep? I dont think problem is there but in a few quick minutes you could rule it out. Im finishing breakfast and I already got ck loaded, so Im going get a pics loaded it up to show you what Im seeing on my end with bare bones and what it translates into from ck.  I really want to know on your end how dawnguard named females are looking?

 

29 minutes ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

making a quick a file to get me into castle volkihar. 

I did quick test with vamp start and found 4 females, 3 good and 1 dorked. Once again on my end it was a pair of breton twins and 1 was good and one was dorked.   

 

You can check in your game Hert(logger in north of falkreath) she is dlc1 char and does not get touched by LChar list. My guess is she is good.

Working on it sir, I'll answer in about 45 minutes.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

Couple things, on my end when I went into game with nothing,including no body/textures I seen a few dorked npcs, problem was I would see right next them the same npc and she would be fine. When I clicked on npc through console I seen race and I seen it's baseID. all low level vampire fledglings have same baseID. That base ID is for actor LVLVampire. That actor users traits from LCharVampire00, when you look at that LCharList you see 4 or 5 races of EncVampire00, so the game pulls an npc from that list, the encvampire00breton or whatever uses redguardhair4, which is like a shaved head, that's why we seen that crap,yuck vanilla. I think what is happening is the vanilla meshes for those encvampire00(different races) is getting dorked going through the process of the lchar list(crap) in conjunction with the head meshes nif's being stuck in skyrim-meshes.bsa. I think this because in my game I have loose files coming behind that head data and never have problem. 

 

 

I gotta get ready for work soon. just for fun try loading up My Botox Files mod found here on LL, I would also go to Nexus version page and DL textures compatible with your body. And test on new game with all mods active(maybe not survival and dragonaspect mods as they touched vamp races) and we'll see if loose files help you.  I cant remember if My Botox Files got thrown into bsa? dont think so but if so when you install with MO have it unpack the bsa and test with botox low in load order, you need no esp active in right pane(plugins) for botox. 

 

 

 

 



 



 



 

Note with the twins^ Same baseID same race, fucking weird. 

 

 

Here is our fledglings 

 



 

Lvl Vamp uses template

 



 

 

here is template used

 



 

 further down the rabbit hole

 

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[timurhan]

I disabled the USLEEP and made some tests. Test are based on most reduces mod list mentioned above. Basically I create vampires via console commands. Commands can be found Here.

I followed same pattern, there are two npc's, left one is skyrim and right one dawnguard versions. Except first ones which I already mentioned in pictures.

I'm gonna list them in the leveled pattern, so it's gonna start with Vampire Fledgling and end with Nightlord Vampire.

So, first one: Comparsion1 as you can see here base skyrim one is somewhat broken or it is loaded normally, still don't know.

Both OK: Comparsion2

Sam: Comparsion3

And here the leveled list starts, they are all breton;

Comparsion4 Comparsion5 Comparsion6 Comparsion7 Comparsion9 Comparsion10 Comparsion11

Named NPC's now: Hert Serana

Thoso were not dying, so I could not able to take her off, here: Valerica Fura Bloodmouth Salonia Caelia

I did not repeat the same process with USLEEP on yet.

What I understan here is there is/are Npc(s) broken with/out USLEEP. But most of them working just right. And yet, I still don't know why they are broken or how to solve.

About botox, thank you but I'm not up to make them beatiful in this way. It's more than enough to me to they using installed body and skin correctly for both body and face.

So looks like we are gonna understand is it USLEEP or nor after making same test with it.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

The Botox is for what happens when you have the nif/dds loading last as loose files. Only for testing.