Animals Shaking/bumping/stuttering specially horses

[Aensland_src]

For some reason animals and specially horses are bump up and down really fast while walking on terrain edges, I managed to fin that this is caused by FNIS, if I remove the hkx file finis generate for every creature the problem goes away, sadly this is not a real way to solve it since doing that makes every animation for creatures not to work, this never happened before, only on the latest version of FNIS, does anyone here know anything about this issue or know how to fix it???, should I go back to a past version of FNIS???

 

 

 

 

[Harvald]

There are several opportunities why this happens.

 

Is your XPSME up to date.

 

Horses revamped adds missing animations and fixes a rigging bug at the left back hand of the vanilla horse. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70640/?.

 

I heard about this is a vortex problem, but I don't know anything about this.

[MadMansGun]

the last time i saw this it was billyy's slal pack that was bugged, something was wrong with his horse hkx file and it bugged out the behavior file.

 

maybe it's the same problem again (maybe not with billyys but with some other animation mod).

 

 

 

[Aensland_src]

43 minutes ago, Harvald said:

There are several opportunities why this happens.

 

Is your XPSME up to date.

 

Horses revamped adds missing animations and fixes a rigging bug at the left back hand of the vanilla horse. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70640/?.

 

I heard about this is a vortex problem, but I don't know anything about this.

Everything is up to date, using MO2, I have already tried Horse revamped, it doesn't help at all, this is not a horse exclusive problem, i will affect almost all animals, it is harder to reproduce the bug, since I cannot control them, but I have seen giants and wolves bounce up and down on edges...

30 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

the last time i saw this it was billyy's slal pack that was bugged, something was wrong with his horse hkx file and it bugged out the behavior file.

 

maybe it's the same problem again (maybe not with billyys but with some other animation mod).

 

 

 

This may be the problem, I have billys slal pack, but I think FNIS is overwriting the hkx files from any other mod, since I'm using MO2 and FNIS is generating it's hkx files on "overwrite", deleting the generated hkx files FNIS creates, solves the problems, that means at my understanding that somehow is FNIS messing the hkx files, I don't know how exactly fnis work so, does it take something from the existing hkx files to generate them???, so hidding or removing any other hkx file other mod has may change the result?

[Aensland_src]

2 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

the last time i saw this it was billyy's slal pack that was bugged, something was wrong with his horse hkx file and it bugged out the behavior file.

 

maybe it's the same problem again (maybe not with billyys but with some other animation mod).

 

 

 

Billy's pack is the problem, I just removed the whole mod mid save, re run FNIS and Nemesis (as I was doing every test), and boom, the problem is no more ... OMG, thank you so much... I really thought I would never be able to find the solution , since the wording for the problem is difficult to phrase and I wasn't able to find anyone having this problem, I searched a lot describing the problem in different ways, but seemed this problem was exclusive to me... I really like Billy's animations, hmmm will it break if I remove every trace of the creature animations??? and just leave the human ones???

 

BTW I'm using a rape redux version of Billy's pack, but the problem was still present with the original(I changed it recently and the version was quite recent), is it possible that this was already fixed on the main mod?...

 

EDIT:

 

SOLVED

I just installed the update from today(Oct 01), and the problem seem to be gone.
To clarify I was back from a long time not playing Skyrim, I decided to start playing again(since like 3 or 4 months ago), and I went with a completely fresh installation this problem was on from the start, the latest version I was using using was Billyy's SLAL pack 3.61 , after that decided to change to a Rape redux version it was a bit older 3.2(but wanted to reduce animation numbers), with this new version 3.72 the problem is gone.

I remember having this problem from the start, but I don't use horses too much, it may be that it started actually with the rape redux version, knowing how sometimes Skyrim bugs are super weird, I'm not sure to blame the rape redux mod, but I'm almost sure this was the culprit, anyways I leave the link so if anyone finds this will know what the problematic mod may be: 

 

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, Aensland_src said:

Billy's pack is the problem, I just removed the whole mod mid save, re run FNIS and Nemesis (as I was doing every test), and boom, the problem is no more ... OMG, thank you so much... I really thought I would never be able to find the solution , since the wording for the problem is difficult to phrase and I wasn't able to find anyone having this problem, I searched a lot describing the problem in different ways, but seemed this problem was exclusive to me... I really like Billy's animations, hmmm will it break if I remove every trace of the creature animations??? and just leave the human ones???

 

BTW I'm using a rape redux version of Billy's pack, but the problem was still present with the original(I changed it recently and the version was quite recent), is it possible that this was already fixed on the main mod?...

 

EDIT:

 

SOLVED

I just installed the update from today(Oct 01), and the problem seem to be gone.
To clarify I was back from a long time not playing Skyrim, I decided to start playing again(since like 3 or 4 months ago), and I went with a completely fresh installation this problem was on from the start, the latest version I was using using was Billyy's SLAL pack 3.61 , after that decided to change to a Rape redux version it was a bit older 3.2(but wanted to reduce animation numbers), with this new version 3.72 the problem is gone.

I remember having this problem from the start, but I don't use horses too much, it may be that it started actually with the rape redux version, knowing how sometimes Skyrim bugs are super weird, I'm not sure to blame the rape redux mod, but I'm almost sure this was the culprit, anyways I leave the link so if anyone finds this will know what the problematic mod may be: 

 

Interesting. I noticed this problem myself when I used a horse for the first time in like forever lately. 
I did not change anything with the files but I used an older Billy SLAL version. 
I will update my Rape Redux versions to the newer versions in the next weeks and I ll start with Billys to make this go away. 

 

And indeed, some bugs are just... strange. 
I sometimes spend hours just to try to find the problematic mod and then even more hours trying to find why it is problematic ^^

[Aensland_src]

25 minutes ago, Nymra said:

Interesting. I noticed this problem myself when I used a horse for the first time in like forever lately. 
I did not change anything with the files but I used an older Billy SLAL version. 
I will update my Rape Redux versions to the newer versions in the next weeks and I ll start with Billys to make this go away. 

 

And indeed, some bugs are just... strange. 
I sometimes spend hours just to try to find the problematic mod and then even more hours trying to find why it is problematic ^^

Yeah, the problem probably was already on the the 3.2 version, at least that is what I can suppose based on what MadMans said. Btw if you are going to update the mod and want me to remove the link I added to my post, please let me know(so it may not create confusion later on).